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    Old School DH bikes

    Who prefers rocking old school DH bikes?

    The tech today is phenominal, but, the bike is only half the equation. I still rock my 2001 Super 8 and love the looks and compliments I get. It is a boost in ego too when you consistently pass the guys on newer bikes.

    I have often thought about going the old school route and restoring older DH bikes with new components instead of buying a new rig. I know its not practical, but the cool factor (for me) is off the charts. Plus, that is the era I grew up in and nothing gets me going like an old Lobo DH or Lawwill Straight 8.

    My outdated rig still rockin


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    Cool to see a Super8 still rocking. (I thought they all broke)

    I love the old Tomac 204 Magnums.

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    Mine did break. That's why the swingarm is black. I could take black or wait 8 months for them to get a batch of powdercoat blue. I didn't wait 8 months. Trouble free since then.

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    i rode an older style v10 up until this year when i got a wilson (not a brand new one)
    but i didnt liek anythign bout the v10 it was clunky heavy and no matter how i played with the suspension tuning i never felt like the rebound was fast enough
    i felt liek i was beign held back on that biek since ive got my wilson my riding has improved alot more rapidly then i expected
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    im rocking an old 2002 M1, ill post pics later. still works great, but im ready for something newer...

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    IMO I think the bikes of old ride just as good...My 2002 Big Hit and 2004 Azonic Recoil.....were just as smooth as the 2012 bikes.....shocks/forks have gotten better though

    if you rode a different suspension design then the single pivot ...I think you would be amazed
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    Every chance I get I take my 11 year old DH bike for a spin. You guys can check my profile for the pics. Even though it's old, it can still rock it!
    BTW, op nice bike. I'm a sucker for old bikes, especially the DH ones!
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    1998 M1 here, and no plans to replace it.

    Got modern fork/shock though.


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    Have a 05 Intense M1 in excellent condition and a 01 BMW TMX with Avalanche front and rear both timeless and still worthy DH bikes.

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    More old schoo love. Me and a friend about to ride Indian Creek in Cuchara, CO. His ride, 1999 M1. Still going strong, but parts are HARD to find when you need to replace something. Photo is from 2008.


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    I personally think newer is better (as long as it's a solid proven design). I get the antique classic look and if that's why you do it then great. However, if you're putting new components on it, especially fork/shock combo then wouldn't you be able to upgrade to a newer used bike that is lighter with a better geometry for the same cost? As long as you're happy and having fun though power to ya because in the end that's why most of us do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genemk View Post
    I personally think newer is better (as long as it's a solid proven design). I get the antique classic look and if that's why you do it then great. However, if you're putting new components on it, especially fork/shock combo then wouldn't you be able to upgrade to a newer used bike that is lighter with a better geometry for the same cost? As long as you're happy and having fun though power to ya because in the end that's why most of us do this.
    I totally agree with you. One of the weakest points of my S8 is its braking. You learn to cope with the brake jack and quirks, but they always catch you off guard when your focus is 20 feet down the trail. Today's DH bikes have nearly eliminated brake jack, allowing you to ride into technical features faster and brake later. You don't have to think as much about how the bike is going to react and you can just go. Plus, considering prices for DH bikes now to back then, you get a lot more bang for your buck today. With what I spent building mine in 2001, I could have a new GT carbon DH or Yeti 303 with change to spare.

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    I have a large Super 8 frame sitting here in immaculate shape (redesigned swingarm) in need of a rider to bring it back to life. You'd have to be able to source the unique width rear hub it requires (I'll include the quirky brake adapter it requires). This is the pimpin-est of all Super 8s as I had a custom shock shuttle made to accommodate a longer stroke Romic shock and Ti spring (800lb I think) achieving 9" of travel. The frame is perfect and the shock only had 1 season of use. Free to the first person who can pick it up or pay the shipping (approx $60?).
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    I used to love the look of the old Mountain Cycle San Andreas

    does anyone even ride it anymore? or just restore it for display? I think collectors who have their hands on these wouldn't dare bring them to a trail haha

    i'd love to see a pic of that Azonic recoil - another old school mtb brand i still have a soft spot for

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    That Super8 looks better in person...
    How was the ride back down Blue Ridge trail?(about a month ago)
    I had the ugly red bike. hahaha
    Ruder than you.
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    i dont think there is such a thing like an old bike X)!!! truly my opinion

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    Does mine count?

    '04 204 Mag
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    My 05 Turner DHR. Fresh PC and rebuild from Turner at the begining of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt View Post
    I have a large Super 8 frame sitting here in immaculate shape (redesigned swingarm) in need of a rider to bring it back to life. You'd have to be able to source the unique width rear hub it requires (I'll include the quirky brake adapter it requires). This is the pimpin-est of all Super 8s as I had a custom shock shuttle made to accommodate a longer stroke Romic shock and Ti spring (800lb I think) achieving 9" of travel. The frame is perfect and the shock only had 1 season of use. Free to the first person who can pick it up or pay the shipping (approx $60?).
    http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/PA170044.jpg
    CRC has Super8 hubs: Hadley Santa Cruz rear hub eventhought on the page it is said to be for V10, BUT the specs are for sure for Super8.

    v10 mk1 rear hub: 15x140mm
    Super8 mk2 rear hub: 14x160mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by miqu View Post
    CRC has Super8 hubs: Hadley Santa Cruz rear hub eventhought on the page it is said to be for V10, BUT the specs are for sure for Super8.

    v10 mk1 rear hub: 15x140mm
    Super8 mk2 rear hub: 14x160mm
    Dammit! I was hoping to find an old Hadley for my Tomac
    If anyone's sitting on an old Razor Rock Racing 20mm TA rear hub w/ axle for the 204 Mag, ping me! That Edco Big Rock is dodgy at best!
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    lelandjt I just sent you a message. Interested in the frame

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    that super 8 is PIMP!

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    these pics are great, keep posting more everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coopie View Post


    My 05 Turner DHR. Fresh PC and rebuild from Turner at the begining of the season.


    loving your turner! looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    '04 204 Mag
    that bike is prime! I remember it from the old PS2 game Downhill Domination...

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    I know a guy that rides the wheels off a yellow one, I see him on the trail all the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by greddyvox View Post
    I used to love the look of the old Mountain Cycle San Andreas

    does anyone even ride it anymore? or just restore it for display? I think collectors who have their hands on these wouldn't dare bring them to a trail haha

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    My 2003 M1. The thing still rocks after all these years. It used to black, changed it up about 3 years ago. It is getting hard to get parts for it now days though. I'm getting the 5th "Avalanched" this winter. Hopefully get 2 more years out of it. It's super fast, but I am jonesing for new technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterD View Post
    That Super8 looks better in person...
    How was the ride back down Blue Ridge trail?(about a month ago)
    I had the ugly red bike. hahaha
    Ride was good. I wish we had more trails around to build jumps on and play though.

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    Old School DH bikes-josie-dhr-054.jpg
    Haro DHR
    2002 I think?
    The frame is still solid and hanging in my garage if anybody wants to make me an offer.

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    That's an Intense that was painted/decaled for Haro. Might as well call it an Intense now that it's stripped.
    Keep the Country country.

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    True but I think the DHR's were the only M1's w/ the adjustable seat mast off an old Uzzi. It's not an exact copy of a production M1.
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    Some old school love

    GT Lobo LTS


    Giant ATX World Cup (one of my favorites!)


    Rocky Mountain RM6/7/9


    Mountain Cycle San Andreas


    Cannondale Super V DH (tried posting one of the Dogbone link Super V's but can't find a good photo)


    Tomac 204 Magnum


    KHS Dominatrax


    Intense Uzzi DH


    Cannondale Gemeni DH Prototype (note Dual shock setup, travel was 7" vertical and 2" horizontal)


    Rocky Mountain Pipeline


    Schwinn Straight 8


    Yeti Lawwill (Yeti went to the same as the above Schwinn at the same time)


    Santa Cruz Super 8


    Foes Weasel


    I missed a ton, but feel free to continue the love!
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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlizard720 View Post
    Some old school love



    Cannondale Super V DH (tried posting one of the Dogbone link Super V's but can't find a good photo)


    I missed a ton, but feel free to continue the love!
    Here's a picture of my "linked dogbone" version of that DH bike. I think this one was an updated version (2nd edition) of the Fulcrum DH. The one with the crazy drive train & dual BB. It weighs 40#'s. The bike is from '99, the technology is old, but I still take it out every chance I get. I just love ALL old DH bikes. The ones posted here are just beautiful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coopie View Post


    My 05 Turner DHR. Fresh PC and rebuild from Turner at the begining of the season.
    DHR was absolute dream when it came to the steep stuff...stiff, low center of grav and travel just gobbles up the terrain and turned on instinct....fond memories!!! underated even in its time
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    I agree. This beast rips. Wish I had the skills to really use it, but I do my best. Its pretty much a brand new frame after the fresh PC and factory rebuild no play at all in the dog bone link ( thanks to Greg at Turnerbikes). I will be riding this turner for a few more years.


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    you want old school DH bikes?



    check out my team bike from 1994 - Bombproof D-2

    with AMP Research Mac-Strut rear suspension giving 3.5" and Rockshox Judy DH fork

    fork was custom fitted with Sachs hydraulic disc brake (before the Judy actually had disc mounts)



    our team bikes ran Kore and Azonic finishing kit, TWP fork brake and TWP AMP brace, Bullet Bros chain tensioner, SACHS New Success transmission, Wellgo platform pedals, Selle San Marco saddle with carbon fibre rails and FIR / Sachs wheelset with prototype IRC tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by hampstead bandit View Post
    Rockshox Judy DH fork

    fork was custom fitted with Sachs hydraulic disc brake (before the Judy actually had disc mounts)

    at first glance I thought that was the old AMP/Rock Shox hydro-mechanical disc brake! Remember the dual crown Judy DH forks? The dual crown Judy was all the rage and I had to have one (never did get one unfortunately).

    Quote Originally Posted by chef kungfu View Post
    Here's a picture of my "linked dogbone" version of that DH bike. I think this one was an updated version (2nd edition) of the Fulcrum DH. The one with the crazy drive train & dual BB. It weighs 40#'s. The bike is from '99, the technology is old, but I still take it out every chance I get. I just love ALL old DH bikes. The ones posted here are just beautiful!
    I really think this model Cannondale was the turn in suspension performance. I never rode one and KHS ripped off the design but after that the VPP bikes were already in the plans. Then you had Karpiel and Canfield already playing with dual link systems like the Fulcrum.

    Some more classic rigs

    Karpiel Disco Volante (hasn't changed much over 10 years, this one is an '04)


    K2 Animal!!


    GT DHi


    Out of curiosity, does anyone know the Mongoose DH bike from the late '90's? It had a large "monocoque-ish" downtube and a basic 4 bar rear end. I had almost bought one in 1999 with a boxxer on it. I will never forget that bike because it was the first real DH bike I had ever set my eyes on, and rode.

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    Sure, I'll play. Bender's ride with the Super Monster; 12" (305mm) of travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlizard720 View Post
    Karpiel Disco Volante (hasn't changed much over 10 years, this one is an '04)
    Fix yer flat!

    just rode with a friend who has an 02 disco. I got to ride it around a bit. Super plush. Still a great rig for sure!

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    Neat look at history but these things look clunky and scary as F*CK! except the Turner
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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlizard720 View Post
    Does anyone know the Mongoose DH bike from the late '90's? It had a large "monocoque-ish" downtube and a basic 4 bar rear end.
    I think that was another Intense Uzzi DH/M1 variant painted for another company. There were a few years there that several other companies were racing and selling Intenses.
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    01 Turner DHR
    Still alive and kicking!

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    Loving these Turners! Reminds me of my bike on steroids. Might have to consider them for a slight upgrade at some point.
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    Forgot I have a one off Black Sheep chromoly DH frame based on Lawwill design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt View Post
    I think that was another Intense Uzzi DH/M1 variant painted for another company. There were a few years there that several other companies were racing and selling Intenses.
    I know which bike you are talking about. It was the Intense M1, and I believe it was Eric Carter that was riding it at the time.



    The Mongoose I am talking about was before that. I believe it was based on the Mongoose VRS. It was similar to this but a little beefier. It may have actually been a VRS. I just remember looking at it and riding it and it was nothing like I had ever seen or felt before!



    A couple others I came across

    Specialized FSR Team DH


    Norco VPS


    Diamondback XTS Moto


    Rotec


    BMW (not the car)


    Risse Racing's bolt together DH bike
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    Wow some of these bike bring back some memories of all the bikes that i wanted to build when i was 15 lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt View Post
    I think that was another Intense Uzzi DH/M1 variant painted for another company. There were a few years there that several other companies were racing and selling Intenses.
    Exactly.

    Both Mongoose and Kawasaki had such.

    I have a Kawasaki edition that still sees frequent use.


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    Quote Originally Posted by xcmrx View Post
    Wow some of these bike bring back some memories of all the bikes that i wanted to build when i was 15 lol.
    The Super 8 I ride now was my dream bike when I was 16. I wanted the Scuba Yellow but the opportunity arose to purchase this bike. I remember making a dream wishlist in one of my computer classes and it was built to the list. White Bros. DH3, Purple Hayes, Kooka stem and all. Some drivetrain components have changed through the years, but mostly remains unchanged. I don't ever think I will let it go because it is my dream rig.

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    That's pretty awesome man. I've been wanting to build one of these old bikes with some of the newer tech available now and make my own old school resto mod beast.

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