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    Northstar rig - VP Free or SGS Team DH ?

    Trying to decide which frame to purchase for Northstar next season. I don't race just like to spend the day making runs. I was set on the Free but came across the SGS frame for a lot less $$$ . Money aside which would you choose and why ?

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    couldn't go wrong with either frame
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    Vp-Free
    Pros = Lighter,super stiff,better pedaling efficiency and all around nicer!
    Cons = slightly more maintenance!

    IH SGS
    Pros = good moderatly low maintenance suspension!
    Cons = flexy,heavy(i think) and biggest con of all is its NOT MADE ANYMORE
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    IMO the vpfree is so much nicer then a sgs. pedal efficiency, stiffness, lighter weight. the sgs isn't bad but the vpfree seems like a much better choice

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    Your picks i'd take a VP-Free

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    VP-Free for sure. I have found them for 1400 in powder with a 5th element.

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    Dhx

    Quote Originally Posted by PblcNme
    VP-Free for sure. I have found them for 1400 in powder with a 5th element.
    And you could buy that for a mere $70 more dollars brandnew and $100 with a DHX 5.0 direct from SC!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PblcNme
    VP-Free for sure. I have found them for 1400 in powder with a 5th element.
    Just curious where ? I looked @ Speedgoat that sells for $1500 w/ a DHX.

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    i say V10. definitely more of a N* bike than either of those, but if I have to follow the rules, VP-Free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keen
    Just curious where ? I looked @ Speedgoat that sells for $1500 w/ a DHX.
    HERE

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    i have a 03 sgs pro and i love it. i dont notice any flex when im riding. when im off the bike and shake it, i can see flex but it doesent hinder any of my riding.

    the sgs is more of a dh rig and the vp free is more of a FR rig, am i wrong or am i right

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    Versus Blitz 2006 loves it rough
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Versus Blitz 2006 loves it rough

    i like the white frame, but the green is a lil iffy. how much travel do those have?
    Looking for a 7.87 x 2.25mm shock, any brand any age that runs well!! cheap would be appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinb89
    i like the white frame, but the green is a lil iffy. how much travel do those have?
    I belive they will have 7 to 7+ travel

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    I belive they will have 7 to 7+ travel

    cool stuff, i just dislike the rocker arm i think it could use some more creative machining
    Looking for a 7.87 x 2.25mm shock, any brand any age that runs well!! cheap would be appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinb89
    cool stuff, i just dislike the rocker arm i think it could use some more creative machining
    Also think it'd better if they brought in some VPP Action...

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    Versus look nice but I looked @ their geometry spec's and the XL is more like a large. I tried to not make money an issue in choosing my next frame but all of my previous bikes have cost about the same as the VP Free frame alone. How can one convince himself to take the big step to a high $$$ frame ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keen
    Versus look nice but I looked @ their geometry spec's and the XL is more like a large. I tried to not make money an issue in choosing my next frame but all of my previous bikes have cost about the same as the VP Free frame alone. How can one convince himself to take the big step to a high $$$ frame ?
    Did you look into the '05 or the '06 spec's? They are compleatly different frames. FR generally run different geometry than a AM frame would. If you are looking for something to do shuttels, lifts, North Shore stuff & jumps & throw in some DH for fun the Blitz is very compitant.
    I have a '05 Blitz set up over beefy, weight's 39.65lbs & this is my only bike so it does it all. This bike can climb decent, jumps fine, tight single track is wonderfull, high speed fire road a blast, Downieville xcelent the bike rocks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Did you look into the '05 or the '06 spec's? They are compleatly different frames. FR generally run different geometry than a AM frame would. If you are looking for something to do shuttels, lifts, North Shore stuff & jumps & throw in some DH for fun the Blitz is very compitant.
    I have a '05 Blitz set up over beefy, weight's 39.65lbs & this is my only bike so it does it all. This bike can climb decent, jumps fine, tight single track is wonderfull, high speed fire road a blast, Downieville xcelent the bike rocks!
    I was looking @ the Weapon X. Personally I'd use the Blitz for trail, AM, light FR. I currently ride an XL bullit with a 150mm Z1 for just that purpose. My DH rig would run a 200mm 888, 36mm rims, 2.7/ 2.5 wire bead tires etc - spec'd DH suitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    For DH the Weapon X is awsome, that is definatly the weapon of choice for high speed or xtream DH courses .
    Dude,

    Where did you get the picture of that white versus? I want to know what it would cost to build that exact bike, sooooo clean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keen
    I was looking @ the Weapon X. Personally I'd use the Blitz for trail, AM, light FR. I currently ride an XL bullit with a 150mm Z1 for just that purpose. My DH rig would run a 200mm 888, 36mm rims, 2.7/ 2.5 wire bead tires etc - spec'd DH suitable.
    For DH the Weapon X is awsome, that is definatly the weapon of choice for high speed or xtream DH courses .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetMe2MT
    Dude,
    Where did you get the picture of that white versus? I want to know what it would cost to build that exact bike, sooooo clean!
    Not quit available yet but how about 2 more
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Not quit available yet but how about 2 more
    Any clue on a build cost for that "So fresh and so clean" bike? The white rims, bars, stems, cranks, fork, etc got me droolin'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetMe2MT
    Any clue on a build cost for that "So fresh and so clean" bike? The white rims, bars, stems, cranks, fork, etc got me droolin'!
    Wild wild guess 3900.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Not quit available yet but how about 2 more
    you would have to run a floating brake or that thing would have Brake Jack Galore
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