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    Huckster plus Avy!

    My new bombproof-do anything bike. Just put the Avy on last night so I haven't ridden it yet , but even with the Manitou 4 way that came with the frame this bike rocks!
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    diggin the original supercharger. nice stuff
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    very nice
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    What year is that? My 06 doesn't have that little pivot from at the back shock eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu
    What year is that? My 06 doesn't have that little pivot from at the back shock eye.
    It's supposed to be an 06, new old stock. That's the Motolink. It gives the suspension a rising rate. Maybe they changed the design mid year of 06? I dunno.

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    thats sweet

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    I looked at a picture of mine and its not that I don't have it, its oriented differently. I don't have a picture good enough to explain it here at work, I'll post on later though once I'm home.
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    I don't think that bike has enough suspension members. They should add in 3 more at minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHidiot
    I don't think that bike has enough suspension members. They should add in 3 more at minimum.
    Whatever it takes to get the job done. It's plush, stiff, and pedals awesome. Very smart suspension design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telewacker
    Whatever it takes to get the job done.
    I completely agree

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    Why a second clamp on the post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover Nick
    Why a second clamp on the post?
    The post is a discontinued Tioga layback model. My previous frame needed a telescoping post and I cut the Tioga, so it's too short to have the range of adjustment I need. So I just swapped over the telescoping rig to the new bike. I need that layback post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHidiot
    I completely agree

    You'll notice that my bike with two chainrings doesn't have, and doesn't need, a chainguide That's because the parallel control arms practically eliminate chaingrowth. Also the suspension remains fully active when braking without a floating brake. And the moto link gives the suspension a rising rate. All these advantages are very useful in the real world and are not to be achieved with a mono pivot. Those extra bars and links are there for a reason.

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    I checked mine, I don't have a picture, but it is the exact same linkage, mine just goes underneath the rear suspension eye. Yours makes more sense, its easier to take apart if you want to switch springs. When I changed springs I had to disassemble the entire rear suspension.

    Mine was supposed to be an 06' I bought it from a guy last winter, and it was barely used so I didn't think twice about it being any older. Either way, its a cool bike.

    I'll try and remember to post a damn picture this evening, its interesting comparing the little changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telewacker
    My new bombproof-do anything bike. Just put the Avy on last night so I haven't ridden it yet , but even with the Manitou 4 way that came with the frame this bike rocks!
    nice ride
    Haha, I was wondering when he was gonna hit the brakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telewacker
    You'll notice that my bike with two chainrings doesn't have, and doesn't need, a chainguide That's because the parallel control arms practically eliminate chaingrowth. Also the suspension remains fully active when braking without a floating brake. And the moto link gives the suspension a rising rate. All these advantages are very useful in the real world and are not to be achieved with a mono pivot. Those extra bars and links are there for a reason.
    It has plenty of chaingrowth like any non-concentric BB pivot fully. This is what the rear derailleur pulley is for. A derailleur and a bash serves equally as well as a chainguide. The suspension/braking also remains about as "active" as any Lawwill designed bike (Yeti/Schwinn/Rotec). The extra "moto" link with that many linkage members is also unnecessary since the same leverage curve can be made without it - example: any Lawwill design. A well placed linkage driven single pivot gets the same job done with more neutral braking, equal or better pedaling, equally tune-able leverage curve, and can be made stiffer and lighter....a mono-pivot physically can't, but it can come very close. If a bike is going to have 6 bars to the back end it had better offer substantially more performance than a well made 4 bar for the added weight and maintenance penalties.

    Yes, I've ridden it. Yes, it rides nice. Yes, it's way overkill.
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    Finally, the pictures! And since everyone loves builds...here's the bike I'm replacing the Huckster with! Not that there is anything wrong with the Huckster, I'm not selling it, my wife is going to start riding it now. Its a medium and fits her better, the Giant Faith (with the link flipped!) is a large and a better DH bike, while the Huckster is a better FR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHidiot
    It has plenty of chaingrowth like any non-concentric BB pivot fully. This is what the rear derailleur pulley is for. A derailleur and a bash serves equally as well as a chainguide. The suspension/braking also remains about as "active" as any Lawwill designed bike (Yeti/Schwinn/Rotec). The extra "moto" link with that many linkage members is also unnecessary since the same leverage curve can be made without it - example: any Lawwill design. A well placed linkage driven single pivot gets the same job done with more neutral braking, equal or better pedaling, equally tune-able leverage curve, and can be made stiffer and lighter....a mono-pivot physically can't, but it can come very close. If a bike is going to have 6 bars to the back end it had better offer substantially more performance than a well made 4 bar for the added weight and maintenance penalties.

    Yes, I've ridden it. Yes, it rides nice. Yes, it's way overkill.
    "It has plenty of chaingrowth like any non-concentric BB pivot fully. This is what the rear derailleur pulley is for.'

    So that's why we never see derailleur pulleys on hardtails I guess.....

    you're wrong about chain growth too. There's this guy named Horst, and he figured out how to reduce chain growth substantially. That's why a long travel mono pivot has pedal kickback when you have a chainring that the pivot's not optimised for....like when you have two of them.

    Mono pivots stiffen up under braking. That's why they use floating brakes. Who doesn't know that? Jeez

    Four bars are more active braking, again common knowledge. But hey, whatever dude. I'm glad you like your bike. I know when you post about your new rig I won't be dissing it with a bunch of bogus nonsense because I have better things to do.

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    hahaha, "theres this guy named Horst"

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    Hey what fork do you guys recommend and why...also what headangle does your fork gives your bikes...thanks Rafael
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    Nice bikes
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    wow kowa forks. how do they hold up? they say kowa is the boxxer of japan

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    yea i thought it was a boxxer at first glance

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    Sweet huh?

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    Latest Pix...

    Just wanted to share my latest pix of my huckster...still not sure if I should keep this fork a 2002 Marzocchi Monster T, or get an 06 180mm Travis Triple, or a 2006 66 RC2X. What would you recommend.

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    Awesome I am sitting right now at work waiting for Fedex to deliver my huckster today.

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    Nothing like a Monster T paired up with LX cranks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metanoia
    wow kowa forks. how do they hold up? they say kowa is the boxxer of japan
    I ride with the guys who distribute for Kowa here in the us. http://www.covicracing.com/ Joe had a Kowa for 4 racing DH, it never broke. So he contacted them and is distributing for them now. I've got the air/coil hybrid. I like it way more than my Boxxer, but its a little heavy. Dan said their coming out with an air only next year that's going to be much lighter. And their invert that's in someone else's pictures is pretty sweet, very light too, I think 6.25lbs or something.

    The cool thing with Kowa is the internals are all 100% changeable. So you can upgrade while keeping the same crows, stanchions, and lowers. And their seals are actually from industrial hydraulics, so they last a long time.

    I have a drop crown on my Astrix, so it was a little more slacked out than the 66.5 degrees they give you on the web page. I'm waiting for a drop crown from Kowa right now, with that and the link flipped I'll have my Faith around 65 degrees. I haven't gotten out and measured them as of yet.

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    VwFix - Yeah I love my Huckster, it rocks...and you have to post pictures as soon as you build it up!

    Nagaredama - believe it or not I have been using those LX for about 2 years, riding pretty hard and they have held up.

    So no one has suggested a fork for my Large Huckster or even said yeah keep the Monster...still waiting
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    Quote Originally Posted by rarroyo
    Nagaredama - believe it or not I have been using those LX for about 2 years, riding pretty hard and they have held up.

    So no one has suggested a fork for my Large Huckster or even said yeah keep the Monster...still waiting

    Good to know, I have a set of those in my shed waiting for a bike.

    My Yeti AS-X has a 66RC2X and it is an awesome fork. I say pick one of those up. It will make the bike way lighter!

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    Yeah I bet it would but want to make sure my head angles stays above 66.5, I had a domain originally and my head angle was 64.5 and it made my bike feel super sluggish on turns.

    Thanks for the suggestion.
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    Very nice bikes, all of them. For those of you debating the merits of the various suspension designs, I have to laugh because it reminds me so much of myself about 6 years ago, when every minute detail of a suspension design seemed so important to me. Then I sold my DH bike (needed the cash) and started riding BMX for 5 years. Well, I've come back to DH now and all of these things seem trivial. Once you've learned to adapt to 20" wheels and no suspension, ANY dh bike feels good, and gets the job done...

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    Interesting, but it seems that now and days there are more choices then even 6 years ago and a DH bike is no longer for DH some you can be pedaled up hill like our Hucksters and Havocs...I started with BMX --> then moved to XC now Freeriding and although a full suspension will give you a more comfortable ride which is cool, you really want something more like a MotoLink, VPP, DWLink these suspension's are designed to give you more efficiency, control and speed. So dialing in your suspension from fork to shock to suspension system is key.

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    The 02 Monster on the Huckster is perfect, imo. Not too slack a head angle, stiff as hell, plush, super reliable, and heavy. All that weight in the lowers helps to keep the front end planted when climbing steeps. Which only matters to people like me who like to climb with big bikes. I think there's like about five of us...LOL!! The only reason I can imagine replacing it is to save weight but you'll give up stiffness and the wide turning radius, unless you get another fork with 40mm stanchions. Maybe it's a minor point, but if you take the wheel off a lot it sure is nice dealing with the threaded axle-single pinch bolt system of the old Monster vs. a zillion pinch bolts on most other forks.

    Man the Avalanche DHS with the Huckster's PCA suspension is unbelievable. You can stand and hammer without bobbing and yet it's super plush and compliant and keeps the wheel glued to the ground. The extra compression adjuster really does make a difference too.Totally worth the $$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rarroyo
    Just wanted to share my latest pix of my huckster...still not sure if I should keep this fork a 2002 Marzocchi Monster T, or get an 06 180mm Travis Triple, or a 2006 66 RC2X. What would you recommend.

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    66 RC2x for sure...

    Despite the name of your bike, hucking is dead. Go single crown...still very DH'able, huckable (if that's your thing), lighter, better handling.



    Sick bikes... my co-worker has a Havoc...very nice.

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    I'd give a 2nd vote for the 66. Or maybe the Totem. Both would work good on the Astrix. I've been impressed with some of the single crowns, but I'm sticking with the dual because I'm a bigger guy and like the increased stiffness and I want 200mm travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bao
    hucking is dead.
    Ha, Hucking isn't dead, it's just resting.

    I'm one of the people anxiously hoping and waiting for the Rampage to come back in the near future.

    Just because freeriding's turned into a slopestyle sport, doesn't mean there aren't people out there still riding big mountain and doing crazy things.

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    well Just got my huckster in lust night, and just had a quick ride and I love it still needs a lot of dialing in, and it came with the marz 66 vf2 fork and the geo is pretty good photos to come soon.

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    Awesome! So tell me about the fork...what year and what head angle does it give you.

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    it is the 06 VF2 with 170 mm of travel and I have not had a chance to measure the head angle yet.

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    Thanks and please post head angle and picutes VwFix!!!

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    here is a quick photo and i will post the head angle hopefully this weekend when I have the time to measure it .

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    That is a sweet lookin Rig! Congrats now get out there and F-en RIDE!

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    What year is that 07? 08? That rear suspension looks different from mine and the other one posted here.

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    it is an 06 according to the seller, i love this thing, just takes some getting used to, after not riding for 3 years and my old bike was a bullit with a super t which for some reason felt a lot lighter, and need to still dial the suspension on this thing.

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    That's weird, all three of ours are supposed to be 06's. But they all have slightly different suspension linkages. Your lower monolink mount looks like mine, but your upper mount looks like rarroyo's. Minor details really.

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    I really can't notice the different, at least Telewacker's, VwFix and mine look the the same to me...and I think the only difference is that mine is a Large... Well I guess Ryan Carrol will have to chime in and clarify what is the difference.

    Where is everyone from?

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    Iand from Bay Area fremont California the land of crappy hills and oceans

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    Cool I'm from Oakland, where do usually ride?

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    I'm in Clayton and ride the trails on Diablo from my house. Rockville, Skyline, and Oat Hill for day trips.

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