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    Gwin goes to Special-Ed...

    Looks like Specialized has bought out Gwins contract from Trek...

    Aaron Gwin Signs With Specialized - Video - Pinkbike

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    I would think that there would be a much bigger (more professional) announcement than that. In my mind, I think the Trek team manager is probably right now yelling at Gwin, asking if he thinks this was funny, and how much backing trek has in him and so on and so on...

    Or I could be wrong and Gwin has moved to the dark side...
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    From what I have read...
    Treks announcement of the resigning of Gwin is gone from the webpage.
    The video came from a Specialized account.

    Still a bit weird, as the red S usually does not do anything subtle - it usually gets plastered with branding, logos etc.
    Give it a few hours...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnryder56 View Post
    I would think that there would be a much bigger (more professional) announcement than that. In my mind, I think the Trek team manager is probably right now yelling at Gwin, asking if he thinks this was funny, and how much backing trek has in him and so on and so on...

    Or I could be wrong and Gwin has moved to the dark side...
    It's confirmed, official press release on Vitalmtb.com
    It's True - Aaron Gwin, Mitch Ropelato and Troy Brosnan Team Up With Specialized in 2013 - Press Releases - Vital MTB
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    This comes RIGHT after the press release of Gwins contract extension. dont know the full inner details but this seems like a move that would be out of chracter for Gwin. Didn't fully expect that one. Seems as if whitely is going to be taking legal action.

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    wait so my demo is good again i don't have to buy a nukeproof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ustemuf View Post
    wait so my demo is good again i don't have to buy a nukeproof?
    Yeah, until Sam Hill starts spanking everybody again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scythe View Post
    Yeah, until Sam Hill starts spanking everybody again.
    a comeback, hmm .. how sweet that would be ...

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    Gwin already had a contract with Trek, Trek are very much not happy.

    It would be hilarious (although also a shame) if TWR launch their legal challenge, win and it leave’s Aaron sat on his ass all year. If he's already contracted and their (hypothetical at this point) challenge is successful he could end up beholden to that Trek deal for the next three years, not that they'll be taking him racing anywhere ever again.
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    I think this is the end of Gwin’s winning run, maybe not straight away, but Spesh won’t offer the same level of support that TWR/Whitely have. He’ll win for a while, get hurt and then Spesh will hang him out to dry, just like Fairclough and Hill.

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    The only winners here will be the lawyers.

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    Did not see that coming...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissam View Post
    The only winners here will be the lawyers.
    I dunno, if Trek sinks the Spesh world cup team they'll be laughing.

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    hmmmm
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    sweet. why does everybody think big S is so bad? Im stoked for the next season and I cant wait to see gwin on the demo. Next season is gonna be awesome
    Just take off the silver part you'll still have the pretty anodized partion, and you'll ride much faster. As fast as a 29er!

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    Like Lebron going to South Beach Gwin just created a mega team that will win many titles. Don't know what the hate is with the S but the demo is one bad machine.

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    I'd be more interested in finding out how he'd fare on a different bike. Just on the spec numbers alone, the Session and Demo seem to be different enough (I wouldn't know never having ridden either bikes at DH speeds). He obviously felt better moving from Yeti to Trek (traiing with Tomac helped too, I'm sure).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakester29959 View Post
    sweet. why does everybody think big S is so bad? Im stoked for the next season and I cant wait to see gwin on the demo. Next season is gonna be awesome
    Do some research as to how "The big S" got their start. You've never watched Klunkerz have you? You should, pretty interesting film.

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    I don't remember the details exactly but basically the founder of Specialized took a frame created by Gary Fisher to Taiwan and had it mass produced, starting the Specialized brand. Or something like that. I personally don't like Specialized company or their bikes, my opinion. Unfortunately for me, I'll still be rooting for Gwinn on a Specialized bike. Greenbacks rule the world.

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    I guess Trek now knows how if feels to have something ripped off from them. (cough split pivot)

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    i wonder if gwin leaving "unprofessionally" is as big a shock to them as lance "alledgedly doping" under their umbrella for ummm millions of bikes sold by them for a decade. nice try posturing up on their oclv pedestal there.

    go gwin

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    Who knows all the interworkings of this, but.. why would anyone hate on him for going after the money in a career with such a short life? It could all end quickly and I am sure there is no retirement plan. The man is looking out for himself in a business sense and that is just smart, in the end he still gets to ride a bike for a living. Seems like a no brainer to me.

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    Gwin isno longer on the redbull athlete page....

    nevermind....

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    No loyalty in any sport anymore. Just the way it is unfortunately. I definitely understand the limited life-span of a dh rider stated above by Josie7. Not much of a 401K plan in pro racing.
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    So how is the whole 40 doesn't fit on demo frames going to work out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    No loyalty in any sport anymore. Just the way it is unfortunately. I definitely understand the limited life-span of a dh rider stated above by Josie7. Not much of a 401K plan in pro racing.
    I also wonder if there was some sort of profit sharing type of thing in the contract..personally I would want profit sharing from Specialized over Trek...I am sure Sam Hill made some nice money off the Sam Hill Demo's

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuLax18 View Post
    So how is the whole 40 doesn't fit on demo frames going to work out?
    im sure they will figure it out for gwin.

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    To be honest, although I liked him to Trek, and what he did for the brand... I don't blame him for leaving.

    Think about it this way, Gwin is a fantastic DH athlete, and although I don't follow downhill super close, not many athletes (beside CG, and Peaty) can make this a "life-time" sport.

    After another 5 years Gwin most likely won't be the athlete he is today, and 10 years from now, who knows if he'll still be racing. From the interviews I've seen with Gwin, he seems like a nice and humble guy, but not a particular exciting one.

    He doesn't have the excitable charm, or the charisma that fellow (well former fellow now) Trek rider Cam Mccaul has, and who knows if he'll be able to make much of a living in the industry after his DH career. I figure Mccaul could be a great product salesmen, announcer, ect, but Gwin... I don't know.

    He probably realizes this and just wants to make AS MUCH money as possible in the short term, while he's still in the game.

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    Cool Story, brah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rep_1969 View Post
    Do some research as to how "The big S" got their start. You've never watched Klunkerz have you? You should, pretty interesting film.

    Mountain Bike History

    I don't remember the details exactly but basically the founder of Specialized took a frame created by Gary Fisher to Taiwan and had it mass produced, starting the Specialized brand. Or something like that. I personally don't like Specialized company or their bikes, my opinion. Unfortunately for me, I'll still be rooting for Gwinn on a Specialized bike. Greenbacks rule the world.
    To be completely honest I do not care how any bike manufacture started. That was one guy the company's has had good and bad people in it just like any organization. I really love my demo and wouldn't trade it for anything (except a newer demo ).
    Just take off the silver part you'll still have the pretty anodized partion, and you'll ride much faster. As fast as a 29er!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakester29959 View Post
    To be completely honest I do not care how any bike manufacture started. That was one guy the company's has had good and bad people in it just like any organization. I really love my demo and wouldn't trade it for anything (except a newer demo ).
    i agree.. gwin called me and asked my opinion on trek vs specialized so you can all blame it on me..

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    there is nothing wrong about moving to greener pastures. but its best to give people who have treated you right an option to counter offer.

    if there was no animosity between trek and gwinn, and an 11th hour move like this was annouced, that is very bad business.

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    I could care less about what went on behind closed doors. I just watched the Specialized "Farewell to Sam Hill Video". I cannot wait to see the Trek "Farewell to Gwin" video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boulder Pilot View Post
    I could care less about what went on behind closed doors. I just watched the Specialized "Farewell to Sam Hill Video". I cannot wait to see the Trek "Farewell to Gwin" video.
    Yeah, about that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuLax18 View Post
    So how is the whole 40 doesn't fit on demo frames going to work out?
    40 and carbon demo have no compatibility issues from what I remember. The alloy had tubing/welds/ and gussetting that created some clearance issues and required the 40 to have a different bumper installed. But with a carbon frame... He should be all good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by his dudeness View Post
    40 and carbon demo have no compatibility issues from what I remember. The alloy had tubing/welds/ and gussetting that created some clearance issues and required the 40 to have a different bumper installed. But with a carbon frame... He should be all good.
    Oh cool. Yeah I realized after I posted that he would be on the carbon and I didn't know if that would make a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkon11 View Post
    To be honest, although I liked him to Trek, and what he did for the brand... I don't blame him for leaving.

    Think about it this way, Gwin is a fantastic DH athlete, and although I don't follow downhill super close, not many athletes (beside CG, and Peaty) can make this a "life-time" sport.

    After another 5 years Gwin most likely won't be the athlete he is today, and 10 years from now, who knows if he'll still be racing. From the interviews I've seen with Gwin, he seems like a nice and humble guy, but not a particular exciting one.

    He doesn't have the excitable charm, or the charisma that fellow (well former fellow now) Trek rider Cam Mccaul has, and who knows if he'll be able to make much of a living in the industry after his DH career. I figure Mccaul could be a great product salesmen, announcer, ect, but Gwin... I don't know.

    He probably realizes this and just wants to make AS MUCH money as possible in the short term, while he's still in the game.

    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkzeon View Post
    Interesting.. sounds like Trek to not keep their word and therefore he didn't sign.. if this is true, i will like Trek less as they seem to be trying to give him a bad name when all he did was win 10 world cup races for them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie7 View Post
    Interesting.. sounds like Trek to not keep their word and therefore he didn't sign.. if this is true, i will like Trek less as they seem to be trying to give him a bad name when all he did was win 10 world cup races for them..
    Trek is not to blame here. Gwin and his management team had signed with Trek for the next few years.
    Why would Trek let him go with the success he's had?

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    I am really disappointed in the way Trek has been conducting themselves. They just released a video of Aaron signing the letter of intent.. The fact that Gwin didnt have a formal contract almost 5 months after he had signed the LOI kind of speaks for itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Bob View Post
    I am really disappointed in the way Trek has been conducting themselves. They just released a video of Aaron signing the letter of intent.. The fact that Gwin didnt have a formal contract almost 5 months after he had signed the LOI kind of speaks for itself.
    A lot of this isn't Trek but rather Trek World Racing which separate from Trek. They do share the name.

    I can't imagine Trek is happy about how Trek World Racing is acting. An employer publicly threatening to sue a former employee, who quit, doesn't garner much good will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuLax18 View Post
    Oh cool. Yeah I realized after I posted that he would be on the carbon and I didn't know if that would make a difference.
    I think Specialized is teamed up with Scram for their components packages, so he'll more than likely will be running a boxer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SV11 View Post
    Trek is not to blame here. Gwin and his management team had signed with Trek for the next few years.
    Why would Trek let him go with the success he's had?
    did you read Gwin's statement.. he never signed and they never came to terms with what was agreed..

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