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 Originally Posted by Tim F.
I think Specialized is teamed up with Scram for their components packages, so he'll more than likely will be running a boxer.
I know that's how it's been, but somewhere in one of the Gwin threads it said he's supported with frame and tires by Spec, so I took that to mean he's on all his old stuff prior. Although he signed with TLD recently I saw so who knows what will happen.
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 Originally Posted by StuLax18
I know that's how it's been, but somewhere in one of the Gwin threads it said he's supported with frame and tires by Spec, so I took that to mean he's on all his old stuff prior. Although he signed with TLD recently I saw so who knows what will happen.
You're right Specialized is providing him with frame and tires like you said, but Fox and Shimano were sponsors of TWR, not specifically Gwin, so technically it's still up in the air. Same goes for his new deal with TLD, Gwin himself was not sponsored Royal Racing, Trek World Racing factory team was, so now that Gwin is no longer part of TWR, he is free to make independent deals with other clothing companies.
Also, as mentioned above, Trek World Racing and Trek are two sperate entities. TWR is owned by Martin Whiteley and his company 23 Degrees. Trek would be wise to distinse themselves from TWR and pull their frame sponsorship after MW's mud slinging.
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 Originally Posted by Josie7
did you read Gwin's statement.. he never signed and they never came to terms with what was agreed..
Yes, it's a load of horseshit.
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At this point who knows what exactly happened. And apparently the full details can't be revealed so we just have to wait and see.
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TWR is acutally giving Trek a bad name.
SV11 - TWR is the one planning on suing not Trek.
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 Originally Posted by the.vault
A lot of this isn't Trek but rather Trek World Racing which separate from Trek. They do share the name.
I can't imagine Trek is happy about how Trek World Racing is acting. An employer publicly threatening to sue a former employee, who quit, doesn't garner much good will.
You are right ..it is TWR who is being unprofessional.Trek needs to put them in their place and tell them to get it together.. TWR is going to give Trek a bad name and cost them more sales than Gwin leaving.
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 Originally Posted by darkzeon
TWR is acutally giving Trek a bad name.
SV11 - TWR is the one planning on suing not Trek.
Either Trek or TWR is considering suing Gwin.
My understanding is that it's Trek. I know TWR is the obvious, I could be wrong.
Either way, TWR is left in a pretty shyte position with comps and camps a couple of months away.
I may have to offer my services.
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 Originally Posted by SV11
Either Trek or TWR is considering suing Gwin.
My understanding is that it's Trek. I know TWR is the obvious, I could be wrong.
Either way, TWR is left in a pretty shyte position with comps and camps a couple of months away.
No, TWR is the only entity considering legal action. Trek Bicycles has said absolutely NOTHING on this matter. Trek Bicycles is just the title sponsor of Trek World Racing, which is owned and operated by Marten Whiteley and 23 Degrees.
TWR screwed themselves if you ask me. I'm not a Gwin fan by most measures, but from what the public knows he seems to be the better man in this debacle. If Martin Whiteley/TWR would have just kept their mouths shut and not acted like a broken hearted high school drama queen, both parties probably could have walked away unscathed.
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DHgnaR, thanks for clarifying.
That statement from 23 degrees is pretty damming, to what extent I would not want to guess.
I'm referring to my link.
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Not sure how the law works in the States, but under British-based legal systems he'd be left wide open to legal action under the principle of estoppel (which also exists under US law, but I'm not sure how).
That he allowed Trek to proceed with all their publicity after the letter of intent without contradicting them sounds like it falls under this principle.
(Note, there is not enough info in the public domain to really know this, and I'm not a lawyer, I've just casually taken legal courses).
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Looks like there will be no legal action taken against Gwin. Whiteley of TWR just announced in an interview with P.B. that what's done is done. I have a feeling that TWR panicked when Aaron left because alot of their sponsorships where dependent on having Gwin being part of TWC. Glad to see that both Gwin and TWC can concentrate on racing and forget about legal BS.
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It does seem that things are settling down. Not to keep this going, but here's the Gwin interview from VitalMTB:
http://www.vitalmtb.com/videos/featu...7063/sspomer,2
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It looks like Gwin is staying with Fox but moved to SRAM....no more brake failures for him...
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Wow, he's been one of Shimano's main guys for many years. That's nearly as big a move as if he left Fox. I gotta say, after the last year having him switch to your company's frame is kind of a risky proposition. He might keep on winning and bring you great exposure or his competition could improve and his dominance could end. Then everyone questions whether the Demo is as fast as the Session.
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SRAM....no more brake failures ...
That's a sentence i never thought I would read.
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I don't know this for sure, but I'm guessing he wasn't going full speed so he didn't risk injury on some nonsense race. Just shows how fast he is, because he nearly beats everyone without running 100% (assuming he's not going full speed)
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Isn't this Logan's home course? He was born and raised near there, wasn't he? I believe this is his stompin grounds which makes sense why he won.
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Mikey Sylvestri 2 seconds back in 3rd! Nice!
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Remember Sylvestri beat Minnaar, Hanna, ect at the 2011 Sol Vista Triple Dip Stage 1.
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Gwin looked pretty good over the weekend.
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Gwin goes to Special-Ed...
KHS did put its money where it's mouth is with the 27.5" platform, Binggeli 1st; Aiello 5th. Season will be interesting.
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A Specialized carbon bike won a pro DH race in Fontana this weekend, except it was a 29'er. Gwin was second on a Demo.
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