• 01-08-2013
    StuLax18
    Lawsuit and Specialized. There's two things that you never hear together. :rolleyes:
  • 01-08-2013
    cyclelicious
    I wish Aaron luck and hopes he races well this year
  • 01-08-2013
    Josie7
    Who knows all the interworkings of this, but.. why would anyone hate on him for going after the money in a career with such a short life? It could all end quickly and I am sure there is no retirement plan. The man is looking out for himself in a business sense and that is just smart, in the end he still gets to ride a bike for a living. Seems like a no brainer to me.
  • 01-08-2013
    boogenman
    Gwin isno longer on the redbull athlete page....

    nevermind....

    Gwin makes Specialized switch - Photo - Video | Red Bull Bike
  • 01-08-2013
    azdog
    No loyalty in any sport anymore. Just the way it is unfortunately. I definitely understand the limited life-span of a dh rider stated above by Josie7. Not much of a 401K plan in pro racing.
  • 01-08-2013
    StuLax18
    So how is the whole 40 doesn't fit on demo frames going to work out?
  • 01-08-2013
    Josie7
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    No loyalty in any sport anymore. Just the way it is unfortunately. I definitely understand the limited life-span of a dh rider stated above by Josie7. Not much of a 401K plan in pro racing.

    I also wonder if there was some sort of profit sharing type of thing in the contract..personally I would want profit sharing from Specialized over Trek...I am sure Sam Hill made some nice money off the Sam Hill Demo's
  • 01-08-2013
    b-kul
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StuLax18 View Post
    So how is the whole 40 doesn't fit on demo frames going to work out?

    im sure they will figure it out for gwin.
  • 01-08-2013
    arkon11
    To be honest, although I liked him to Trek, and what he did for the brand... I don't blame him for leaving.

    Think about it this way, Gwin is a fantastic DH athlete, and although I don't follow downhill super close, not many athletes (beside CG, and Peaty) can make this a "life-time" sport.

    After another 5 years Gwin most likely won't be the athlete he is today, and 10 years from now, who knows if he'll still be racing. From the interviews I've seen with Gwin, he seems like a nice and humble guy, but not a particular exciting one.

    He doesn't have the excitable charm, or the charisma that fellow (well former fellow now) Trek rider Cam Mccaul has, and who knows if he'll be able to make much of a living in the industry after his DH career. I figure Mccaul could be a great product salesmen, announcer, ect, but Gwin... I don't know.

    He probably realizes this and just wants to make AS MUCH money as possible in the short term, while he's still in the game.
  • 01-08-2013
    Evo.
    Cool Story, brah...
  • 01-08-2013
    jakester29959
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rep_1969 View Post
    Do some research as to how "The big S" got their start. You've never watched Klunkerz have you? You should, pretty interesting film.

    Mountain Bike History

    I don't remember the details exactly but basically the founder of Specialized took a frame created by Gary Fisher to Taiwan and had it mass produced, starting the Specialized brand. Or something like that. I personally don't like Specialized company or their bikes, my opinion. Unfortunately for me, I'll still be rooting for Gwinn on a Specialized bike. Greenbacks rule the world.

    To be completely honest I do not care how any bike manufacture started. That was one guy the company's has had good and bad people in it just like any organization. I really love my demo and wouldn't trade it for anything (except a newer demo ;) ).
  • 01-08-2013
    Josie7
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jakester29959 View Post
    To be completely honest I do not care how any bike manufacture started. That was one guy the company's has had good and bad people in it just like any organization. I really love my demo and wouldn't trade it for anything (except a newer demo ;) ).

    i agree.. gwin called me and asked my opinion on trek vs specialized so you can all blame it on me..
  • 01-08-2013
    bing!
    there is nothing wrong about moving to greener pastures. but its best to give people who have treated you right an option to counter offer.

    if there was no animosity between trek and gwinn, and an 11th hour move like this was annouced, that is very bad business.
  • 01-08-2013
    Boulder Pilot
    I could care less about what went on behind closed doors. I just watched the Specialized "Farewell to Sam Hill Video". I cannot wait to see the Trek "Farewell to Gwin" video.
  • 01-08-2013
    esw116
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Boulder Pilot View Post
    I could care less about what went on behind closed doors. I just watched the Specialized "Farewell to Sam Hill Video". I cannot wait to see the Trek "Farewell to Gwin" video.

    Yeah, about that...
  • 01-09-2013
    his dudeness
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StuLax18 View Post
    So how is the whole 40 doesn't fit on demo frames going to work out?

    40 and carbon demo have no compatibility issues from what I remember. The alloy had tubing/welds/ and gussetting that created some clearance issues and required the 40 to have a different bumper installed. But with a carbon frame... He should be all good.
  • 01-09-2013
    StuLax18
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by his dudeness View Post
    40 and carbon demo have no compatibility issues from what I remember. The alloy had tubing/welds/ and gussetting that created some clearance issues and required the 40 to have a different bumper installed. But with a carbon frame... He should be all good.

    Oh cool. Yeah I realized after I posted that he would be on the carbon and I didn't know if that would make a difference.
  • 01-09-2013
    darkzeon
  • 01-09-2013
    Trajan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by arkon11 View Post
    To be honest, although I liked him to Trek, and what he did for the brand... I don't blame him for leaving.

    Think about it this way, Gwin is a fantastic DH athlete, and although I don't follow downhill super close, not many athletes (beside CG, and Peaty) can make this a "life-time" sport.

    After another 5 years Gwin most likely won't be the athlete he is today, and 10 years from now, who knows if he'll still be racing. From the interviews I've seen with Gwin, he seems like a nice and humble guy, but not a particular exciting one.

    He doesn't have the excitable charm, or the charisma that fellow (well former fellow now) Trek rider Cam Mccaul has, and who knows if he'll be able to make much of a living in the industry after his DH career. I figure Mccaul could be a great product salesmen, announcer, ect, but Gwin... I don't know.

    He probably realizes this and just wants to make AS MUCH money as possible in the short term, while he's still in the game.


    Well said.
  • 01-09-2013
    Josie7
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darkzeon View Post

    Interesting.. sounds like Trek to not keep their word and therefore he didn't sign.. if this is true, i will like Trek less as they seem to be trying to give him a bad name when all he did was win 10 world cup races for them..
  • 01-09-2013
    SV11
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Josie7 View Post
    Interesting.. sounds like Trek to not keep their word and therefore he didn't sign.. if this is true, i will like Trek less as they seem to be trying to give him a bad name when all he did was win 10 world cup races for them..

    Trek is not to blame here. Gwin and his management team had signed with Trek for the next few years.
    Why would Trek let him go with the success he's had?
  • 01-09-2013
    Rob-Bob
    I am really disappointed in the way Trek has been conducting themselves. They just released a video of Aaron signing the letter of intent.. The fact that Gwin didnt have a formal contract almost 5 months after he had signed the LOI kind of speaks for itself.
  • 01-09-2013
    the.vault
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rob-Bob View Post
    I am really disappointed in the way Trek has been conducting themselves. They just released a video of Aaron signing the letter of intent.. The fact that Gwin didnt have a formal contract almost 5 months after he had signed the LOI kind of speaks for itself.

    A lot of this isn't Trek but rather Trek World Racing which separate from Trek. They do share the name.

    I can't imagine Trek is happy about how Trek World Racing is acting. An employer publicly threatening to sue a former employee, who quit, doesn't garner much good will.
  • 01-09-2013
    Tim F.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StuLax18 View Post
    Oh cool. Yeah I realized after I posted that he would be on the carbon and I didn't know if that would make a difference.

    I think Specialized is teamed up with Scram for their components packages, so he'll more than likely will be running a boxer.
  • 01-09-2013
    Josie7
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SV11 View Post
    Trek is not to blame here. Gwin and his management team had signed with Trek for the next few years.
    Why would Trek let him go with the success he's had?

    did you read Gwin's statement.. he never signed and they never came to terms with what was agreed..