First Time to Whistler!!

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  • 02-27-2012
    B-Mac
    First Time to Whistler!!
    My wife and I are planning to take a vacation this summer & we decided to stay at Whistler for a week in July, most likely the third or fourth week.

    I'm REALLY stoked to head there, I've done some DH here locally (mostly in PA actually) but never anything like Whistler.

    Anyone have any tips on (1) where to stay; (2) how to get my bike there (going to fly into vancouver); (3) riding the park for a relative noob; (4) or bike setup?? I'm probably going to be solo for more or less the entire time b/c my wife doesn't ride.

    My bike, btw, is a 08 Turner Highline with a zocchi 66 RC3 on the front. Hopefully going to replace the 66 with an 888 RC3 EVO prior to the trip if I can afford it. Currently have an zocchi roco on the rear, but probably going to replace that, most likely with a fox vanilla RC. The zocchi blew up on my last ride of the season & is still leaking after I replaced a few o-rings, so I'm a little paranoid to bring it on such a big trip. Also planning to put fresh rubber on the bike for the trip, probably HR II on the back & a new DHF in 60 compound on the front.

    Thanks for any advice you have!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:
  • 02-27-2012
    Moosey
    congrats! I'm headed there for my first time this summer to. Just booked a trip for the first week in July. We are staying about 3 blocks from the lift i think. We just did our trip through travelocity or some other site like that. I have to rent a bike though. Still Super stoked!
  • 02-27-2012
    his dudeness
    Whistler can be really expensive. It will definitely cost more than you think you'll need so start saving now, and plan on saving extra. Trust me.

    I'd say your highline with the 66 will be plenty up there and there is no need to buy a 888 just to go to Whistler. In all honesty, the 60d tires will hold up longer but I'd still go for a grippier setup if you can. Bring extra tires and any extra parts (ie-cheap rear derailleur, tubes, some cable and housing etc.) as this will all cost you a very big premium to purchase up there.

    Box up your bike and contact any of the shops up there to see if they'll allow you to ship it there. Out of convenience, ask if they can also build the bike up and then re-box/pack and ship the bike back once your trip is done. You'll pay extra for it but I'm sure they'll be appreciative if you bring them a 12 pack when you pick up your bike and before you pack it up to go home. Decent beer in a bike mechanic's world generally means they take much better care of you and your equipment.

    I'd say the first trail you should hit is Crank It Up. It's a blue, has a lot of small to medium jumps and berms, and for being mid-mountain is long enough to get you grinning. I'd ride B-line after that, the jumps are a bit bigger as are the berms and it's a bit less pedaly. Then I'd take trip to the top... Hit freight train. And then from there on out pick anything that you think you can ride. Everything is well marked, and for any trail that is a double black the signs will let you know if there is a go-around or if you should maybe consider a slightly easier trail.
  • 02-27-2012
    Will Goes Boing
    I'm heading up there this summer too.... can't wait!! Not to high jack your thread or anything but for those who has been to whistler, will a specialized stumpy with a 140mm rear and 160mm front travel be fine up there or should I just rent a full blown DH bike when I get there?
  • 02-27-2012
    Calhoun
    Buy your beer in Vancouver. It will blow your mind what a 24 pack of Kokanee costs in the village.
  • 02-27-2012
    Moosey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Will Goes Boing View Post
    I'm heading up there this summer too.... can't wait!! Not to high jack your thread or anything but for those who has been to whistler, will a specialized stumpy with a 140mm rear and 160mm front travel be fine up there or should I just rent a full blown DH bike when I get there?

    I'd rent. Your bike might hold up fine, but the harder trails will be more fun on bigger bike. and you wont have to worry too much about thrashing the bike.

    Not to hijack your hijack, but how do whistlers trails compare to northstars as far as rating goes? It looks to me like the single blacks at Whistler compare to the doubles at Northstar.

    How does A-Line compare to Livewire?

    Last question, how big is the stuff on Fade to Black? I just built and hit a 10 vertical drop to a 1' wide landing, so I'm feeling semi-confident.
  • 02-27-2012
    drsmonkey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Moosey View Post
    I'd rent. Your bike might hold up fine, but the harder trails will be more fun on bigger bike. and you wont have to worry too much about thrashing the bike.

    Not to hijack your hijack, but how do whistlers trails compare to northstars as far as rating goes? It looks to me like the single blacks at Whistler compare to the doubles at Northstar.

    How does A-Line compare to Livewire?

    Last question, how big is the stuff on Fade to Black? I just built and hit a 10 vertical drop to a 1' wide landing, so I'm feeling semi-confident.

    For me after my first run at N* 3 I stopped checking things out and was just able to hit everything at speed first time. Whistler is not like that, once I got off of Crank-it up and A-line, if I couldn't see it I definitely either spotted it first or watched someone for a speed check. There wasn't anything I wouldn't hit at N*, skipped a lot of features at Whistler.

    A-line the features are about double the size of Livewire? Last time I rode Live wire was 3 summers ago though, so things may have changed, but as long as you keep your speed up I think A-line is technically easier for the most part. Mostly because the jumps are all dialed and smooth on A-line, you just pin it and everything works out. It seemed like some of the stuff on Livewire would kick you funny, or required just the right amount of speed to hit transition, etc.

    I don't remember any Fade to Black, so someone else will have to chime in.

    For the OP, I'd consider renting bikes as well. The math might work in your favor after shipping, repairs (you will break things), etc. Unless you ride DH regularly, both you and your bike will take a beating at Whislter, you will want rest days so factor that in, and there are deals available on lodging/ticket/bike packages The rentals are built for it, and if it breaks you take it back and get a new one. Less worries about your bike not showing up on time, getting stolen, the mech building it late on Friday, etc.
  • 02-27-2012
    his dudeness
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Moosey View Post
    I'd rent. Your bike might hold up fine, but the harder trails will be more fun on bigger bike. and you wont have to worry too much about thrashing the bike.

    Not to hijack your hijack, but how do whistlers trails compare to northstars as far as rating goes? It looks to me like the single blacks at Whistler compare to the doubles at Northstar.

    How does A-Line compare to Livewire?

    Last question, how big is the stuff on Fade to Black? I just built and hit a 10 vertical drop to a 1' wide landing, so I'm feeling semi-confident.

    Renting is a good idea if your bike is broken or you want to try something different for the day. Rental costs however can cost upwards of $60/day for a semi -decent bike. Chances are that the suspension will be haggard from the mass amount of people riding the bike before you too. Your suspension on the other hand is tuned for you and will work better for you.

    Moosey:
    Some of the blues (b-line) are comparable to a trail like Livewire. Some of the blacks (too tight) are easier than the blues at Northstar. While I'd say their ratings call for more stiff trails in general, you can and will be surprised when you get on a blue that is tougher than you would think it should be. Most if not all of the double blacks at northstar can be ridden with a moderate amount of skill and have go-arounds. Some of the double blacks at Whistler are really best reserved for the big boys who have a lot of skill. You can get very badly hurt on some of the stuff there and it can happen very quickly.

    Comparing livewire to Aline is like comparing a civic SI to a Ferrari. While yes one is fun, there really is no comparison. Aline is just so much longer and better. But with that said, Whistler shares a similarity with Northstar in that if all you do is ride Aline all day you're a complete moron. There are so many really good trails up there. There is so much incredible stuff in the backcountry too that a little pedal from the top chairlift will reward you with massive descents.
  • 02-27-2012
    leggatt
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Will Goes Boing View Post
    I'm heading up there this summer too.... can't wait!! Not to high jack your thread or anything but for those who has been to whistler, will a specialized stumpy with a 140mm rear and 160mm front travel be fine up there or should I just rent a full blown DH bike when I get there?

    This really depends on your skill level. I would rent a bike though.
  • 02-27-2012
    rideut
    lodging - alluradirect.com I have used them before and just booked one week this summer with the site again. Get a studio w/ a kitchen so you can cook meals - eating out is expensive.
    Bring extra tubes, tires, der hanger, tools etc. It is expensive up there, extremely expensive and the US$ is weak these days.
    As far as the riding goes be prepared to be disappointed with your local trails when you get home! The Whistler buzz takes a few weeks to wear off:D
  • 02-27-2012
    genemk
    Moosey, Fade to Black isn't bad if you're comfortable hitting everything on trails like Dirt Merchant, Freight Train, A-line, etc. The biggest feature is the road gap at the start which is maybe an 8-10ft drop (give or take) that gaps a bit less than a logging road (the ramp sticks out over road a bit). The tranny is nice and steep, but if you come in too fast can be easy to overshoot. I did that once and had a double bottom out. There were a couple of Canadians watching that said "Going a bit too fast eh?", gotta love the locals. I'd probably hang out and scope it and watch someone else hit it to gauge speed. If you feel good about it after then go for it. The other 3 hits are smaller.

    I've had friends ride 6" trail bikes there and they had fun, but their bikes took more of a beating and they didn't enjoy the steep trails as much. Once they switched to a DH bike they enjoyed it a lot more. That said rentals typically run $100+ for a decent DH rig, which ain't cheap.

    The Turner Highline should be OK for Whistler, but won't be quite as good on the steeps obviously. I rode 12 days up there on a 7" Norco Shore freeride bike and had a blast though so it depends on your money situation and preference.

    Make sure to pace yourself and get ready for a stupid grin that you won't be able to get rid of.
  • 02-27-2012
    craigstr
    Northstar will be like a kindergarten playground after you ride Whistler, there is no comparison. Flying and traveling with your bike is a PIA and very expensive but renting is probably just as expensive if you are staying more then 4 days. I'd much rather have my own bike then have some beater rig although they might have a new fleet of Glory's this year? Fade to Black is no big deal just watch the right hander after the road gap if its wet, it gets a little slippery.
  • 02-27-2012
    ryan_daugherty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by craigstr View Post
    Northstar will be like a kindergarten playground after you ride Whistler, there is no comparison. Flying and traveling with your bike is a PIA and very expensive but renting is probably just as expensive if you are staying more then 4 days. I'd much rather have my own bike then have some beater rig although they might have a new fleet of Glory's this year? Fade to Black is no big deal just watch the right hander after the road gap if its wet, it gets a little slippery.

    Ship the bike to the Hotel. They'll hold it for you while you fly out. Much cheaper than bringing it on the plane.
  • 02-27-2012
    6thElement
    You'll have a blast, Highline with 66 works just fine.


    Hopefully you've picked a bike friendly airline, I've used Cathay Pacific for my two visits. Then just book yourself onto one of the coaches which head to Whistler, I think I've used both, Perimeter and whatever the other is called.
  • 02-27-2012
    Moosey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by his dudeness View Post
    Comparing livewire to Aline is like comparing a civic SI to a Ferrari. While yes one is fun, there really is no comparison. Aline is just so much longer and better. But with that said, Whistler shares a similarity with Northstar in that if all you do is ride Aline all day you're a complete moron. There are so many really good trails up there. There is so much incredible stuff in the too that a little pedal from the top chairlift will reward you with massive descents.

    I was wondering about how the size fo the jumps on Livewire compare to the size of the jumps on Aline. Aline is legendary for a reason, I was just wondering, If I'm comfortable hitting all the jumps on livewire, can I hit all the jumps on A-Line?

    I can't wait and I still have 4 or so months to go.

    Once rental prices come out I'll look more into shipping my Evil.
  • 02-27-2012
    happybrandon
    Sorry for yet another hijack, but I'll be heading up for the first time this summer to and was wondering where to stay. I was looking on alluradirect.com but where is the best spot as far as location and allowing you to bring your bikes in? North village?
  • 02-28-2012
    his dudeness
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Moosey View Post
    I was wondering about how the size fo the jumps on Livewire compare to the size of the jumps on Aline. Aline is legendary for a reason, I was just wondering, If I'm comfortable hitting all the jumps on livewire, can I hit all the jumps on A-Line?

    I can't wait and I still have 4 or so months to go.

    Once rental prices come out I'll look more into shipping my Evil.

    Well, I'd say that some of the larger jumps on the bottom of Livewire are pretty representative of the medium jumps on Aline. The vast majority of the big jumps on Aline aren't exactly hard to hit since they're all tabletops they're just bigger than most anything on Livewire and there's exponentially more of them. If anything Bline is a closer representative of Livewire.

    Like I said earlier, livewire is cool but there really is no comparison to Aline.
  • 02-28-2012
    DJ/UF
    Bring your bike and rent the first day. Renting is a great way to go. If you find the first day went fine with little abuse, ride yours. Planes have a "special" shipping charge for bikes. Take that into consideration. I use leftover bike boxes from my shop and break down my bike and ship it in that when I fly to Colorado.
  • 02-28-2012
    Northender
    Take your own bike
    I would agree with some of the above posts, that if you have capable DH/FR bike take it with you. I feel a lot safer and more confident when riding my own bike versus a rental thatís been bagged to sh!t and isnít set-up for my riding style.

    I really want to go to Whistler this year, but itís a long drive from my province and I donít have anyone to pitch in for gas.
  • 02-28-2012
    B-Mac
    Thanks for all the replies!

    Definitely going to check out the links you guys provided. There's a possibility that some family (all non-riders except one) are coming along. If that happens, one of the relatives might pick up the lodging.

    Planning to be there for an entire week, so I hope to check out a good chunk of the mountain. A-line looks badazz, but I want to hit some of the rocky rooty steeps too. Can't wait to see what happens to my skills after riding there for a week.

    I haven't hit any drops above 5' or so yet, so I'm sure that some of the stuff there is going to be HUGE for the first few days until I nut up. I'm generally OK in the techier stuff though. Planning to train like a fiend this summer so I'm not TOO sore.

    Maybe a set of super-tacky or at least 3c would be good for this trip . . . They'll be munched by the end of the week but fuggit.
  • 02-28-2012
    B-Mac
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Northender View Post
    I would agree with some of the above posts, that if you have capable DH/FR bike take it with you. I feel a lot safer and more confident when riding my own bike versus a rental thatís been bagged to sh!t and isnít set-up for my riding style.

    I really want to go to Whistler this year, but itís a long drive from my province and I donít have anyone to pitch in for gas.

    Told my wife when we were discussing this trip that "The bike is coming, regardless of cost, and that's non-negotiable." Probably going to ship it to avoid the hassle, unless I can find someone local to lend me a case & the airline is significantly cheaper.

    The 12-pack idea when shipping the bike home is genius.
  • 02-28-2012
    his dudeness
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by B-Mac View Post
    Thanks for all the replies!

    Definitely going to check out the links you guys provided. There's a possibility that some family (all non-riders except one) are coming along. If that happens, one of the relatives might pick up the lodging.

    Planning to be there for an entire week, so I hope to check out a good chunk of the mountain. A-line looks badazz, but I want to hit some of the rocky rooty steeps too. Can't wait to see what happens to my skills after riding there for a week.

    I haven't hit any drops above 5' or so yet, so I'm sure that some of the stuff there is going to be HUGE for the first few days until I nut up. I'm generally OK in the techier stuff though. Planning to train like a fiend this summer so I'm not TOO sore.

    Maybe a set of super-tacky or at least 3c would be good for this trip . . . They'll be munched by the end of the week but fuggit.

    I'd say just bring the tackier tires on the bike and stuff the harder compound in the box with your bike. Also try to fit as much of your gear (ie-pads, helmet, shoes, riding clothes) in the bike box to ship up with your bike... It'll save you luggage space and will help keep the bike protected inside the box.
  • 02-28-2012
    Calhoun
    Already mentioned but there is so much more to Whistler than the lift served. Make sure you don't miss out on the other trails.
  • 02-28-2012
    Moosey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by B-Mac View Post
    I haven't hit any drops above 5' or so yet, so I'm sure that some of the stuff there is going to be HUGE for the first few days until I nut up. I'm generally OK in the techier stuff though. Planning to train like a fiend this summer so I'm not TOO sore.

    Best thing ever. I remember it used to take half a day at northstar before my hands were shot. Then i started heading out to a local hill and just riding. Nothing too rocky or tech, just riding down and hiking up. Spent 2 days at mammoth last year, my body held up fine, but i was just tired after day 2. Im planning on training like a mother this summer too (N* and local stuff) so i can hopefully go 4 days without getting too tired.

    Can you ride rentals in the Airdome? Like if I rent a Kona Operator (Or whatev) can I jump it into the foam pit at the airdome?
  • 02-28-2012
    B-Mac
    Yah, bet I'm going to be whupped. At the closest park to me, 7 Springs in PA, runs take 5-10 minutes and you drop around 400-500 feet. How long does a run last at whistler? 30 minutes??

    Man - can't freaking wait!!!!

    Need to quit thinking about it LOL.

    That suggestion above about packing gear and armour with the bike is fantastic. I've been wondering how I'm going to get my gear there.

    I'd rent an XC bike to check out some of the other trails if possible. Going to have to balance riding with keeping the wife happy. We're also planning to spend at least one day in Vancouver. I suggested that she rent a bike and spend some time on the green trails with me. My suggestion was rejected without adequate consideration. Maybe she'll change her mind when she sees the place.
  • 02-28-2012
    genemk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by B-Mac View Post
    Yah, bet I'm going to be whupped. At the closest park to me, 7 Springs in PA, runs take 5-10 minutes and you drop around 400-500 feet. How long does a run last at whistler? 30 minutes??

    Man - can't freaking wait!!!!

    Need to quit thinking about it LOL.

    That suggestion above about packing gear and armour with the bike is fantastic. I've been wondering how I'm going to get my gear there.

    I'd rent an XC bike to check out some of the other trails if possible. Going to have to balance riding with keeping the wife happy. We're also planning to spend at least one day in Vancouver. I suggested that she rent a bike and spend some time on the green trails with me. My suggestion was rejected without adequate consideration. Maybe she'll change her mind when she sees the place.

    The green trails are super easy. Easy Does It is basically a logging road that you ride down. If she's at all comfortable on any bike she should be able to do greens.
  • 02-28-2012
    6thElement
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by B-Mac View Post
    I'd rent an XC bike to check out some of the other trails if possible. Going to have to balance riding with keeping the wife happy. We're also planning to spend at least one day in Vancouver. I suggested that she rent a bike and spend some time on the green trails with me. My suggestion was rejected without adequate consideration. Maybe she'll change her mind when she sees the place.

    I'd avoid shipping your bike, it can easily get stuck in customs. If you haven't booked your flight just check the baggage policies of the airlines which you're considering. Most of the big US carriers are prohibitively expensive for flying with a bike.

    I rode Comfortably Numb on my Highline last trip, an XC bike would have probably been quicker though :D
  • 02-28-2012
    his dudeness
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Already mentioned but there is so much more to Whistler than the lift served. Make sure you don't miss out on the other trails.

    +1.

    Not that the dh park is a waste of time or anything, but if you're going to be there you'd be crazy to do a week of lift runs and not experience anything outside the park. Rent a 6 and 6 inch bike that pedals well take the lift all the way to the top and start pedaling into the backcountry. The "xc" there can be pretty burly at times so there is no need to worry abuot doing a xc ride and being bored.

    Lost lake trails are also pretty fun and there's a lot of stuff around that area and they start right next to the parking lots at the bottom.
  • 02-28-2012
    craigstr
    All this talk about A-Line, nobody has even mentioned Dirt Merchant.
  • 02-29-2012
    gretch
    ^^This... Dirt Merchant is my all time favourite from the bike park... however, I've been away from the scene for a bit and things have changed a lot.
  • 02-29-2012
    B-Mac
    Mrs. B-Mac's handling the travel arrangements, I'll have to follow up with the airline regarding transporting the bike. I've heard that you have the clean the heck out of the bike prior to transport to avoid any problems at customs.

    Tickets are being bought today!! Need to work on getting my passport . . .

    We're staying at one of the hotels in the village. We haven't had a vacation in a really long time, so we can afford to splurge a bit. The rooms all have kitchens, per one of the posters above.

    Thinking I'm leaning more toward bringing the bike along on the plane (before investigating the cost LOL). The thought of my bike getting hung up at customs & not being able to do anything about it is pretty scary. Hope I can find someone local to hook me up with a travel case. Rather not spend the dough on that.

    Hoping I hook up with another rider who's familiar with the park & can go along on some of the backcountry trails that you guys are talking about. Not sure how far off the beaten path I'm going to go if I'm alone all week - especially considering that the trails are probably pretty burley. I ride some decent stuff around here, but we don't have anything approaching the elevation changes that vancouver has.
  • 02-29-2012
    essenmeinstuff
    I'm also heading out there this year (early june), for a friends wedding in vancouver.

    I already told the wifey that we are bringing bikes, and there'll be a couple days on the shore, and a couple at whistler.

    We're bringing bikes, was told its an extra $50 on air canada to bring bikes (its a domestic flight for us). I'm not too keen on renting, I know my bike and don't want the added weirdness of a new bike...

    Pretty stoked (and a little scared)
  • 02-29-2012
    craigstr
    Just dont fly Delta, it was $150 each way. I know United is $100 each way for a bike, total weight with box has to be under 50lbs.
  • 02-29-2012
    bigwaved
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by craigstr View Post
    All this talk about A-Line, nobody has even mentioned Dirt Merchant.

    How about a "Dirty A" lap? Dirt Merchant to A-Line. There's some sweetness right there.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by B-Mac View Post
    Thinking I'm leaning more toward bringing the bike along on the plane (before investigating the cost LOL). The thought of my bike getting hung up at customs & not being able to do anything about it is pretty scary. Hope I can find someone local to hook me up with a travel case. Rather not spend the dough on that.

    Hoping I hook up with another rider who's familiar with the park & can go along on some of the trails that you guys are talking about. Not sure how far off the beaten path I'm going to go if I'm alone all week - especially considering that the trails are probably pretty burley. I ride some decent stuff around here, but we don't have anything approaching the elevation changes that vancouver has.

    For my last 4 visits I've carted my bike on the plane in a large bike box. Never had a single issue. Put most of my gear in there as well. Heck, last time the whole thing weighed 70 lbs! Of course I strategically lined the inside of the box with corrugated plastic. Works like a charm! or you could buy one of these from Crateworks. A little cheaper than a travel case.

    Oh, maybe get a guide/instructor right at the lift ticket place for a half or whole day?? They can asses your skill level, give you some great instruction and show you the goods then point you in the right direction when you're done. They'll take care of you and you won't have to worry about getting in over your head.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by craigstr View Post
    Just dont fly Delta, it was $150 each way. I know United is $100 each way for a bike, total weight with box has to be under 50lbs.

    Yeah, some of these guys really stick it to ya! I've flown Alaska Airlines and they only have charged $50 each way in the past. Hope they keep that pricing this summer as well!


    Damn guys, now you're getting me all jacked up about my trip this summer!
  • 02-29-2012
    B-Mac
    I've been thinking about the guide/instructor thing.

    How much does the lift ticket cost?
  • 02-29-2012
    L. Ron Hoover
    If you only have a week and you have your family with you, I sincerely doubt you'll get your fill of the park. It's that fun. I never made it out of the park until my 3rd trip there. :D

    Bring spare brake pads, rear derailleur, rotors, etc. as Whistler eats bikes and stuff is expensive up there. Be prepared to have to spend money to fix something. When this happens, go to Fanatyk Co. They're pricey but they're good guys and will take care of you and your bike. I blew up a 66 last time I was there and they fixed it same day despite being super busy and also gave me discounted rate on renting a Knolly Podium while my bike was out of commission. If you decide to rent a bike, get it from them or Evolution as they keep their rental fleets in better shape than the park does.

    Take a lesson. It will really help with the jump trails. The instructors are excellent.

    And Freight Train (don't miss Drop In Clinic) - Dirt Merchant- Lower A-line/GLC FTW!

    Though there is a lot to be said for Original Sin - Goat's Gully - In Deep - Fatcrobat - Too Tight - Schleyer - Lower Whistler DH. Too much fun to be had at WBP... :D
  • 02-29-2012
    bigwaved
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by B-Mac View Post
    I've been thinking about the guide/instructor thing.

    How much does the lift ticket cost?

    If I recall correctly, it was like around $60 for a full day and maybe $40 for what they call half day. The half day could be a good idea. It works from 3pm-until closing. Can't remember closing time but seems like it left you with around 4hrs or so of riding to be had. And at 3 the lift lines can be way shorter. Other added is a lot of people will tap out by then so it may be a little quieter on the trails too.

    If you're going for multiple days you'll want to check into the "triple play" pass. It's a multi day ticket that offers savings vs. the daily rate. Start checking their website early spring because they have put them up for early bird sales.
  • 02-29-2012
    cicatrix
    I did a trip throughout Europe, and brought my bike with me. Here is what you should do.

    Go to your local bike shop and ask if they have a cardboard bike box you can have. They throw them out anyway, so they shouldn't charge you.

    You are a mountain biker, so you should know how to take your bike apart. If not, learn. There is no need to pay some guy at the bike shop to do what you could with your own tools. Take the wheels and fork off. Tape the handlebars, with the brakes and shifters still connected, to the top tube. Take the rotors off the wheels and put them in your checked luggage. Wrap the fork in bubble wrap and put it in the box. Everything else will fit in just fine. If you want to be super anal about it, take everything off the bike and use one of the thick plastic bags that are usually left inside the bike box.

    Bring the bike box with you and check it with the rest of your luggage. Sometimes the airline requires you to pay for this ahead of time online, other times you just pay at the counter. It should be around $50. You will have to retrieve your bike at the special/oversized luggage area.

    It doesn't matter how dirty or clean the bike is. My bike was practically caked in mud, and customs didn't care one bit.

    Do not put anything in the box that isn't a bike part. You aren't allowed to.
  • 02-29-2012
    string
    Just remember the airline ad that bikes fly free is not exactly true. Most no longer charge extra because it is a bike but still charge the baggage fee, oversize baggage fee, and overweight fee.
  • 02-29-2012
    Swell Guy
    It needs some editing, but these are my favorite trails at Whistler:
    MobileMe Gallery

    Enjoy!
  • 02-29-2012
    Northender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by B-Mac View Post
    I've been thinking about the guide/instructor thing.

    How much does the lift ticket cost?

    They have a website.

    Lift Tickets Prices for Whistler Mountain Bike Park
  • 03-01-2012
    mikesee
    You guys are killin' me with talk of Whizzler already. It's MARCH 1st fergawdsakes!

    Had to watch the vid I made from last year's trip to bring me back down.

    Ridden/shot closing week of the '11 WBP season.
    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/31504662?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0&amp;c olor=ff9933" width="818" height="460" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>

    Only a few more months to go...
  • 03-01-2012
    Northender
    Nice work.
  • 03-01-2012
    B-Mac
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    You guys are killin' me with talk of Whizzler already. It's MARCH 1st fergawdsakes!

    Had to watch the vid I made from last year's trip to bring me back down.

    Ridden/shot closing week of the '11 WBP season.
    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/31504662?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0&amp;c olor=ff9933" width="818" height="460" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>

    Only a few more months to go...

    Sincerely apologize if this is TMI, but I got a semi watching Mikesee's vid. Think that road gap might be a bit much for me, but I saw alot of stuff on that vid that I'm going to be hitting.

    Tickets bought! Flying air canada, staying at the Sundial. Just me & Mrs. B-Mac, remainder of the family decided not to come after I laid out THE RULE: "You can come, but don't expect to see us."

    In other news, I've been in the market to replace my zocchi roco, which erupted oil at the end of last season. Found a CCDB on the emptybeer classifieds & pulled the trigger.
  • 03-01-2012
    craigstr
    Sundial is sweet, right at the lift, secure bike storage, nice hottub on the roof.
  • 03-01-2012
    bionicman
    I'm following this thread intently as I'll be making my first trip to mtn bikings Mecca!
  • 03-01-2012
    craigstr
    Here is some footage I put together from our trip last July. Includes some North Van and Squamish too.
    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/31883722" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen
  • 03-02-2012
    DHCloud
    Have a great time! Lucky wife!
  • 03-02-2012
    rideut
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cicatrix View Post
    I did a trip throughout Europe, and brought my bike with me. Here is what you should do.

    Go to your local bike shop and ask if they have a cardboard bike box you can have. They throw them out anyway, so they shouldn't charge you.

    You are a mountain biker, so you should know how to take your bike apart. If not, learn. There is no need to pay some guy at the bike shop to do what you could with your own tools. Take the wheels and fork off. Tape the handlebars, with the brakes and shifters still connected, to the top tube. Take the rotors off the wheels and put them in your checked luggage. Wrap the fork in bubble wrap and put it in the box. Everything else will fit in just fine. If you want to be super anal about it, take everything off the bike and use one of the thick plastic bags that are usually left inside the bike box.

    Bring the bike box with you and check it with the rest of your luggage. Sometimes the airline requires you to pay for this ahead of time online, other times you just pay at the counter. It should be around $50. You will have to retrieve your bike at the special/oversized luggage area.

    It doesn't matter how dirty or clean the bike is. My bike was practically caked in mud, and customs didn't care one bit.

    Do not put anything in the box that isn't a bike part. You aren't allowed to.

    Interesting, I never would have known: "Do not put anything in the box that isn't a bike part."This applies to international flights only?
    Sounds like someone found out the hard way.
  • 03-02-2012
    B-Mac
    Air Canada bike checking rules are here:

    aircanada.com - Sports Equipment
  • 03-02-2012
    Buzz
    In all your excitement, dont forget your travel/medical insurance. Medicare may be covered for Canadians, but it sure isnt for visitors!

    Have fun!

    Buzz
  • 03-02-2012
    JoeBMX
    Be aware. If you enjoy riding any of your local trails at all. You'll probably hate them by the time you come back from Whistler. Ignorance is bliss. Pretty much didn't touch my bike for 3 months after coming back from my Whistler cherry popping experience.
  • 03-03-2012
    delirian
    or those of you that aegoing out there for the first time,,,, and dont yet have any accomodation plans, i highly recomend bearbackbiking, Welcome to Bear Back Biking.
    they offer great packages, with fully caterd challet, so your breakfast and evening meals will be included, plus they have a fully kitted out workshop,(sponserd by pedros) and secure bike storage. also included in your package price is guiding and tuition,

    not to sure how it works for you boys in the states, but flying from the uk with bikes isnt to bad, it costs us 60 pounds return to bring a bike on the plane, they have to be dismantled to airline regulations though, tyres deflated, bars and pedals removed and in some sort of box or bag...
    we use the evoc bike bags, though they are quite heavy and expensive, they are well made and well padded. well worth the expense if your a regular traveller with bikes.

    as the others have already pointed out, whistler is mega mega expensive, your gonna get well ripped off, so allow additional funds, your gonna be looking at roughly 100-150 bucks per day to rent a dh bike. so if your going for a week or more then it's cheaper to take your own bike.
  • 03-03-2012
    craigstr
    Not to mention $100 a day minimum to eat per person.
  • 03-03-2012
    Hangtime
    Whistler is awesome. However you have heard how hard it is on bikes, it's even harder on you when you crash. You have to really pay attention to how tired you are getting. Don't be afraid to call it quits and take it easy in the village. I've seen people who push it for "one last run" and end up wishing they had a beer with the group instead. Have fun.
  • 03-03-2012
    Northender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by craigstr View Post
    Not to mention $100 a day minimum to eat per person.

    If you're eating three meals a day at a restaurant. Huge waste of money IMHO.
  • 03-03-2012
    Northender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    In all your excitement, dont forget your travel/medical insurance. Medicare may be covered for Canadians, but it sure isnt for visitors!

    Have fun!

    Buzz

    One of the perks of residing in a socialist country. :thumbsup:
  • 03-03-2012
    craigstr
    Yeah but
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Northender View Post
    If you're eating three meals a day at a restaurant. Huge waste of money IMHO.

    This past year we had grand plans of stocking up on food in Squamish and eating at least one if not two meals per day in the condo. Well we cooked one dinner in 6 nights. We were just too tired after a day of riding to cook, Spaghetti Factory was just way too convenient. $100 a day included 2 or three way overpriced canadian beers too.
  • 03-03-2012
    Northender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by craigstr View Post
    This past year we had grand plans of stocking up on food in Squamish and eating at least one if not two meals per day in the condo. Well we cooked one dinner in 6 nights. We were just too tired after a day of riding to cook, Spaghetti Factory was just way too convenient. $100 a day included 2 or three way overpriced canadian beers too.

    So is Squamish the closest community to Whistler with a grocery store?
  • 03-03-2012
    craigstr
    No, there are two grocery stores in the village but like everything else they are twice as expensive. I think it was $9 for a jar of spaghetti sauce.
  • 03-04-2012
    delirian
    everything inwhistler is so overpriced, because of the high rent the shops have to pay, this reflects on the price of the goods that the shops sell, at the end of the day they are all in it to make a profit, ( thats how it was explained to me anyways)
    yep med bills in whistler are super super expensive, it cost us 1400 bucks to get my brothers little finger popped back in when he dislocated it, i have seen other guests who have broken collar bones or dislocated shoulders and their bills have run into the thousands.... :eek: so make sure you are well coverd,,,,,
    when we were at the med centre last september, the receptionist told us that they dont deal with foreign insurance companies unless the bill is over 5 grand, so anything less than 5k you have to pay upfront then try to claim back. she said they have had lots of trouble in the past from foreign insurance companies, were they have treated people then the insurance company have refused to pay out, leaving the med centre out of pocket, hence why they make you pay up first.

    squamish is the closest place to whistler that has big grocery shops. there is a wall mart, and another shop across the highway thats cheaper, so if you are driving up through squamish, then it could be wise to stock up on food while your there.
  • 03-04-2012
    rdhfreethought
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Moosey View Post
    Best thing ever. I remember it used to take half a day at northstar before my hands were shot. Then i started heading out to a local hill and just riding. Nothing too rocky or tech, just riding down and hiking up. Spent 2 days at mammoth last year, my body held up fine, but i was just tired after day 2. Im planning on training like a mother this summer too...

    Yeah, squeeze tennis balls. Or work up to riding/braking at least 4 hrs a day, for the last month or so.

    Even with that, I usually end up taping my thumbs and sometimes using vaseline on my palms (lol, that sounded a bit off).

    If I stay more than a few days, I usually do 2 days in the park, 1 day "whistler XC" which is tons of fun, and works cardio, but not your hands. Lots of super techie trails to choose from, easy to get maps at the hotels and bike shops.
  • 03-04-2012
    delirian
    whistler certainly does take it's toll on both bike and body,,,, rest days are important,,,,
    we usually do a few hours in the park, in the morning, then go hit up some xc in the afternoon. we have done full days in the park,, but your body lets you know about it the next day, lol...
  • 03-05-2012
    B-Mac
    We're planning a few hiking/climbing days, so I've got a few recovery days built into the trip. We're also planning to grab at least breakfast stuff so we're not eating out all the time. We'll probably go to a restaurant for dinner though. Really don't want to spend any of the vacation doing dishes LOL.

    Mrs. B-Mac is planning several days of serious climbing, which is something that I have more or less no interest in. If you want to dangle off the side of a cliff by a rope cammed into a little crack, that's good for you but don't expect me to join in LOL. This is nice b/c I'll have a bunch of time to ride without worrying about her waiting on me to come back & getting progressively more pissed the longer I ride. I was worried about that at first. We're going to do some of the lighter climbing/hiking stuff together, but I have exactly zero desire to do a multi-pitch schlep up the side of some frozen slab of granite. The guides would have to haul me up anyway b/c I'm more or less useless when it comes to rockclimbing.

    Why does beer have to be so freakin' expensive in Canada??? Another one of the joys of living in a socialist country LOL.
  • 03-05-2012
    Buzz
    Because our beer has alcohol in it and actually tastes good?

    Sounds like your wife will be driving to Squamish everyday she wants to climb. Not a big deal, just something to factor in terms of planning! There is tons of riding to be done in Squamish too, would be a shame to come to Whistler and not ride some of Squamish. Might be a bit more complicated with the bike rental thing.

    Cheers

    Buzz
  • 03-05-2012
    craigstr
    Your beer tastes good?
  • 03-05-2012
    TheYoungBikeDude
    hey i was just wondering how hard do you guys think I should ride my BigHit? what would be the max drop i should do on it? Marzocchi DropOff IV, FOX DHX 5.0, WTB Dual Duty front rim, and e13 chainguide are upgrades. as far as my confidence, I can do advanced trails. I've done a couple before and have taken up to 15' drops on my friends Trek Session.

  • 03-06-2012
    delirian
    beer is so dam expensive cause it's taxed so high... not sure how true this is, but someone told me it was the governemnts way of discouraging binge drinking, and the problems it causes.
    it's your bike ride it how you like, you know your limits and skill levels,,, i would have thought that you'd be ok hitting the glc drops on that, it should take most of the parks abuse. make sure it's well serviced/maintained before you go though...

    your mrs, will like squamish, the climbing down there is awesome, as is the riding. / hiking good luck and enjoy your trip
  • 03-06-2012
    Moosey
    Am I the only one who cant read this whole thread? After Craigstr's video about "Oh Canada" theres some weird glitch and I cant read anything lower?
  • 03-06-2012
    B-Mac
    Some guy on Pinkbike recently put up a posting griping about top to bottom gopro videos.

    I've been looking up all the trails you guys have mentioned & the headcam videos showing the entire trail are fantastic! Excellent research tool. Screw the pinkbike guy.

    There's a drop on a trail at 7-Springs on a trail called Lo Pan that's similar to the road gap at the beginning to Fade to Black. Thinking i can pull that off. Basically a short gap to a nice steep tranny & the trick is not to go too fast. That step-up onto lumber doesn't look too bad either.

    The next few months are going to drag until the DH spots around here open. The other night, my wife says: "You'd better ride a lot of downhill before we go . . ." Were sweeter words ever spoken??
  • 03-06-2012
    TheYoungBikeDude
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by delirian View Post
    it's your bike ride it how you like, you know your limits and skill levels,,, i would have thought that you'd be ok hitting the glc drops on that, it should take most of the parks abuse. make sure it's well serviced/maintained before you go though...

    ok. I just wasn't sure how hard to push the bike. I just got it so I'm looking at it's limits. I can take alot and sometimes more than the bike. Yea I have it serviced before any trip i take.
  • 03-06-2012
    seppe71
    +1.
  • 03-07-2012
    B-Mac
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Because our beer has alcohol in it and actually tastes good?

    Sounds like your wife will be driving to Squamish everyday she wants to climb. Not a big deal, just something to factor in terms of planning! There is tons of riding to be done in Squamish too, would be a shame to come to Whistler and not ride some of Squamish. Might be a bit more complicated with the bike rental thing.

    Cheers

    Buzz

    Hey Buzz - 15 years ago I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly, but the USA has finally progressed past our "swill in a can" past! (there was much rejoicing) We've got some domestic breweries turning out some great stuff nowadays. Founders, Sierra Nevada, Dogfish Head & Stone are a few of my favorite domestic breweries.

    I think the wife's planning a guided trip, so we'll probably be taking a bus of some kind to the climbing. She has apparently made arrangements for me to dangle off the side of a cliff along with her.

    I've been watching a ton of videos of fade to black. I think I will view the trip as a success if I can ride that trail before I leave. Looks badazz!!!

    I've been having issues with the craigstr video too, but not every day. Strange. The video's really good though . . .
  • 03-07-2012
    butthead
    This video may offer a solution for packing your bike on the plane. I've done the same thing with my hardtail for a trip to Ray's

    GR's "How to Pack Your Bike for the Plane" - GeorgeRyan83 - Mountain Biking Videos - Vital MTB
  • 03-07-2012
    Chad A
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by B-Mac View Post
    Thanks for all the replies!

    Definitely going to check out the links you guys provided. There's a possibility that some family (all non-riders except one) are coming along. If that happens, one of the relatives might pick up the lodging.

    Planning to be there for an entire week, so I hope to check out a good chunk of the mountain. A-line looks badazz, but I want to hit some of the rocky rooty steeps too. Can't wait to see what happens to my skills after riding there for a week.

    I haven't hit any drops above 5' or so yet, so I'm sure that some of the stuff there is going to be HUGE for the first few days until I nut up. I'm generally OK in the techier stuff though. Planning to train like a fiend this summer so I'm not TOO sore.

    Maybe a set of super-tacky or at least 3c would be good for this trip . . . They'll be munched by the end of the week but fuggit.

    I hear ya, right with your skill set, and just bought a bike that will handle it over the winter. I also scoured eBay for a set of soft compound Minion/High Roller setup for the specific purpose of wearing them into dust.

    I must say, reading all of this makes me feel fortunate that I've just moved to Bellingham, four hours away from Whistler. Yeehaw! Time to don the armor and get after it this summer :)
  • 03-07-2012
    Chad A
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Because our beer has alcohol in it and actually tastes like water?

    Buzz

    There, fixed it for ya :D Just kiddin'...
  • 03-08-2012
    gage
    DO NOT FORGET BLUE VELVET! it's a fun fast flowy trail then you can continue to new joke then to freight-train! get there by going up garbanzo lift.. so much fun! take it easy the first day or two.. i was there all season last year and a lot of people get crazy first day (or two) and get trucked down the mountain via ambulance. :) -g
  • 03-09-2012
    B-Mac
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gage View Post
    DO NOT FORGET BLUE VELVET! it's a fun fast flowy trail then you can continue to new joke then to freight-train! get there by going up garbanzo lift.. so much fun! take it easy the first day or two.. i was there all season last year and a lot of people get crazy first day (or two) and get trucked down the mountain via ambulance. :) -g

    Definitely hear ya. Planning to take it slow. I have no desire to break bones. Hope I manage to up my game, hopefully to fade to black levels, but coming home in one piece is always the goal.

    Spent about 8 weeks on the couch nursing 3 broken ribs & eating painkillers like candy in summer of 2009. Don't want to repeat that.
  • 03-10-2012
    delirian
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by B-Mac View Post
    Definitely hear ya. Planning to take it slow. I have no desire to break bones. Hope I manage to up my game, hopefully to fade to black levels, but coming home in one piece is always the goal.

    Spent about 8 weeks on the couch nursing 3 broken ribs & eating painkillers like candy in summer of 2009. Don't want to repeat that.

    best way to up your game and improve, and gain the confidence and techniques for fade to black, will be to take some tuition/coaching while you are there....

    as for broken bones, painkillers slow down the bodies ability to heal,,, so the broken bones would take longer to heal... it's better to live with the pain if you can,,, cut out alcohol smoking and fatty foods. eat lots of fresh fruits veg and fish,,, calcium and vitamins, and the body will heal quicker....
  • 03-11-2012
    B-Mac
    This looks pretty cool!

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/36449421?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0&amp;c olor=cc3333" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/36449421">Top Of The World - NEW Alpine Trail</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/whistler">Whistler Blackcomb</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
  • 03-11-2012
    Josie7
    VRBO for a condo... they can be cheap as its not skiing season and even a busy bike park day is nothing compared to ski season...
  • 03-11-2012
    delirian
    foooooook yeah!!!!!!!!
    we were lucky enough to get the peak chair up and ride down off the back of the mountain, highway99 into khybers.... it was one of the best rides ive done... so this will be awesome if they goahead with them plans,,,, :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
  • 03-11-2012
    ustemuf
    wooooooo hoooooo... my mom has a timeshare that shes not using.. i plan on going to whistler august 25th to september 1st...

    now to read up on this thread and figure out some logistics... and to stay injury free so i can ride then!
  • 03-13-2012
    B-Mac
    Looks like I'm going to score one of the corrugated plastic boxes from crateworks. Can't seem to beg one locally & $400-$500 is too freakin expensive. Also not paying $140 for a crateworks cardboard box (sheesh!).

    On the bright side, my CCDB arrived & bolted on with zero fuss. Planning a trip to a local XC spot that has a "downhill trail" (vulture's knob) to begin dialing in the shock. No respectable downhill there, but there's a few rock obstacles designed to be taken at speed & some steep bermy sections. I was worried at first that a 550# spring would be a little soft, but so far it seems fine. I'm 6'5", 240# with gear.

    Planning on "renting" a guide/taking a clinic/whatever you call it my first day there. Might be good from a "not getting lost" perspective. I don't want to wind up lost & take a trail that I can't handle for the sake of getting down the hill. Also looking forward to hitting the alpine style trail I posted the video for above. I've never ridden anything with scenery like that!!
  • 03-13-2012
    LeeL
    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/14184313?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>

    Shot this for a PBike article but it shows more of the trail that you'll be riding than the promo video from Whistler.

    Have fun! It's well worth it.

    As for a clinic ask for Mike Johnstone from WBP and don't break anything
  • 03-13-2012
    PerfectZero
    Just got back from there last week...er wrong season though.

    Only advice I can give is to get a burger at Splitz. Make sure to get the Splitz sauce.
  • 03-14-2012
    genemk
    Love the idea of riding from the peak, but there's gotta be some steeper trails coming down from there. So far from the videos it seems like a mix of DH/AM riding.
  • 03-14-2012
    LeeL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by genemk View Post
    Love the idea of riding from the peak, but there's gotta be some steeper trails coming down from there. So far from the videos it seems like a mix of DH/AM riding.

    There's steeper trails. Some I can show. Some I can't. Here's one that's well known but bear in mind it was shot with a GoPro chesty which makes everything look flat. I also wore an xc lid and no goggles which, as everyone knows, makes trails look flat (sarcasm intended - been reading pinkbike too much).

    if you want more trail suggestions get this book =

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/14211759?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>
  • 03-14-2012
    B-Mac
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    There's steeper trails. Some I can show. Some I can't. Here's one that's well known but bear in mind it was shot with a GoPro chesty which makes everything look flat. I also wore an xc lid and no goggles which, as everyone knows, makes trails look flat (sarcasm intended - been reading pinkbike too much).

    if you want more trail suggestions get this book =

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/14211759?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>

    Thanks for posting those vids! "Ride Don't Slide" looks alot like some of the trails I hit in PA, but waaay longer.

    You're an instructor at Whistler? If so, PM me your name & I'll request you when I'm there. Rather have my tip $'s go to someone I'm familiar with.

    DH season hasn't started here yet due to the ground being too soggy. Can't wait to hit some drops. Not much besides XC riding available at the moment.
  • 03-14-2012
    ebxtreme
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    Shot this for a PBike article but it shows more of the trail that you'll be riding than the promo video from Whistler.

    Feel bad for those dudes on their big bikes on Khyber, BBB and Tunnel Vision! I made that mistake once and it sucked.....especially if you're pedaling back after beers and buckets of bones at Dusty's! ;)

    I'm conflicted about the new stuff up top because I think we'll now see folks on RDS and Khyber who won't have a clue. I'm sure we'll see guys without packs/tools or in way over their heads.

    EB
  • 03-14-2012
    ak pura vida
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by B-Mac View Post

    Planning on "renting" a guide/taking a clinic/whatever you call it my first day there. Might be good from a "not getting lost" perspective. I don't want to wind up lost & take a trail that I can't handle for the sake of getting down the hill. Also looking forward to hitting the alpine style trail I posted the video for above. I've never ridden anything with scenery like that!!


    don't have to worry about getting lost or ending up on a trail over your head. pretty clearly marked. get a trail map and just go check it out. i would suggest taking lessons the second day, give yourself a day of exploring and use to the terrain.

    pv
  • 03-14-2012
    LeeL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by B-Mac View Post
    Thanks for posting those vids! "Ride Don't Slide" looks alot like some of the trails I hit in PA, but waaay longer.

    You're an instructor at Whistler? If so, PM me your name & I'll request you when I'm there. Rather have my tip $'s go to someone I'm familiar with.
    .

    Nope. I know a lot of the WBP management and get to ride a lot of the stuff there for media - related gigs (eg the Bandit Review or writing an article about the Instructor training program etc)
  • 03-14-2012
    Mishtar
    Not sure if this was mentioned as I have not read through the whole post.........some of the shops in Vancouver have 40% off cards for rentals at the demo center to try a bike and the more days you rent in a row the cheaper it is. So you could save a ton of money if you can find a shop to hook you up with a discount card. Maybe call around before you heasd out and see who could possibly give you one if you buy something from them. With the money you would save you could more then afford to buy something.

    The bonus side of renting is if anything breaks you bring the bike in and they fix it with no cost to you. Insurance is $25 a day with a max of $50 for 2+ days so a week rental should still be $50 for insurance.
  • 03-15-2012
    Mishtar
    I took this camp last year as well. It was pretty cool and came with free lunch and was a all day course. Not sure yet on the dates for 2012 but it may be something to look into.

    Richie Schley Mountain Bike Adventures at Whistler Bike Park
  • 03-16-2012
    B-Mac
    Weather has turned decent here in the past few days so I've been getting a few test rides in on the highline. Made some changes over the winter, including:

    (1) Zocchi roco to CCDB, also reduced spring from 650 to 550 (had the 650 when I bought it). I was having severe issues with the bike trying to buck me on steep lips last year, think the spring was too big for me. Also really don't have much of a clue what kind of shape/tune the roco was in.

    (2) 70mm stem replaced with a 50mm stem. So far love this change, bike feels great.

    (3) Some minor drivetrain tweaks - went to short cage RD, replaced 11-34 cassette with 11-23. Removed a bunch of chain links.

    Need to get the bike on a hill to get a feel for the rear shock, but so far it fees great with the reduced spring weight on the CCDB. Hoping the smaller spring + the greater tuneability of the CCDB solves the bucking issue. I was doing some wheelie drops, maybe around 18", off my deck last night & initial impressions are positive. The new shock seems to be plusher, but has a better platform. The roco that it replaced was pushed, and the previous owner was a bit of a hucker, so really not sure what I was dealing with previously.

    Also need to get to work & quit thinking about biking!!

    Cheers & have a good SPD!
  • 03-16-2012
    Buzz
    The bucking that you speak off sounds like not enough high speed rebound. You should be able to dial it in with the HSR on the CCDB. Switching to a CCDB often means dropping 50-100lbs of spring weight as well, so it sounds like you are on the right track.
    My wife has been riding her Highline at Whistler for the past few years and loves it. It handles the park well, but is not a true DH sled. This year will be different though, as she will be piloting a Knolly Podium with a CCDB Air!

    Good luck on your trip!

    Buzz
  • 03-16-2012
    B-Mac
    Wow - Passport application costs around $150.00!! For those of you who've said "The trip will cost more than you think it will," you're already correct.

    @Buzz - Your wife's bike sounds pretty badazz! Thanks for the advice re: the HSC. It needs to quit raining for a while so I can tweak the new shock.
  • 03-16-2012
    Buzz
    Hey B-Mac,

    No problem, hope the tip helps. Just to be clear it is HSR not HSC that you want to adjust for being bucked!
    $150 for a passport in the States? How long is that good for? Our Canadian ones are $75 and last 5 yrs (soon to be 10).

    Buzz
  • 03-19-2012
    B-Mac
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Hey B-Mac,

    No problem, hope the tip helps. Just to be clear it is HSR not HSC that you want to adjust for being bucked!
    $150 for a passport in the States? How long is that good for? Our Canadian ones are $75 and last 5 yrs (soon to be 10).

    Buzz

    HSR - well I knew what you meant but was unable to type it it seems . . . :rolleyes:

    Pretty sure the passport is good for 10 years.
  • 03-20-2012
    DHexplorer
    Has anyone ever driven over the border? According to google maps, it is a 17 hour drive from me ( i have driven this much in one day before). Wondering if all i need is a passport or not. Thanks