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    Cranks - Holzfeller or Diabolus?

    Just got a 2009 V-10.

    Currently has '09 Holzfeller that were raced for 1 season.
    I also have a new set of Diabolus that I've ridden about 3 times on my FR bike.

    Holzfeller most likely needs a new BB, but I have an XT in good shape.

    Thoughts? Swap to Diabolus, or just replace BB?

    I don't race, weight's not really an issue (coming from a 52 lb FR bike and could use a little lbs off the belly before worrying about the bike). I Ride heavy and have a problem with crashing...
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    just keep the Holzfeller and send me the Diabolus. Priority mail please...
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    If you want a pair I'll sell you some. PM me.

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    Nah, just trying to help the OP on his decision.
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    Hozefflers can not use xt cups their no the same size, you'll need a howitzer bb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PepperJester
    Hozefflers can not use xt cups their no the same size, you'll need a howitzer bb.
    '

    Was worried about that one.

    Anyone know if the 83mm holzfeller will work on a 68mm BB? (with spacers I'm assuming)
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    i have holzfellers on my scythe and diabolus on my wildcard...

    i wish i had diabolus on both.

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    New Saint cranks. And I have a Shimano allergy, so I don't say that lightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigshaf
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    Was worried about that one.

    Anyone know if the 83mm holzfeller will work on a 68mm BB? (with spacers I'm assuming)
    The Holzfeller crank arms are the same and the Howitzer BB comes in different sizes. (ie. 68/73mm BB with either a 50 or 56mm chainline or 83mm BB with a 56mm chainline)
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    Quote Originally Posted by killjoyken
    The Holzfeller crank arms are the same and the Howitzer BB comes in different sizes. (ie. 68/73mm BB with either a 50 or 56mm chainline or 83mm BB with a 56mm chainline)
    Same question then for the Diabolus. Will the 68/73 Diabolus work on an 83?
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    Quote Originally Posted by craigshaf
    Same question then for the Diabolus. Will the 68/73 Diabolus work on an 83?
    Nope. The spindle is part of the drive side crankarm and is only long enough for a 73mm BB. That's the nice thing about the Holzfeller cranks. You can swap the arms to any bike with a $40 BB.
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    All I know is that the Howitzer bb is a friggin tank.
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    I'm with his dudeness. While the Howitzer BB is a tank, it's also very strong.

    But don't take SRAM's lies. It's not s standard outboard bearing BB. It's a standard BB/spindle with outboard cups.

    Kinda' stupid if you ask me, but my Holzfellers have held up for me for over 2 years without a hitch. What you pay for in weight, you gain in gobs of strength.
    Meh.

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    Sell both, get this, job done


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    Quote Originally Posted by zoro
    Sell both, get this, job done

    That's what I said, but I didn't have a piktchur...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman2058
    That's what I said, but I didn't have a piktchur...
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    Quote Originally Posted by altadank
    X3!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdburch
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