Update from Chris King is that it will be March or April before delivery....hopefully
Thanks.
I`m trying to figure out exactly what the 2013 changes are to the 150/157mm hubs. They said "Updated 150mm and the brand new 157mm downhill and freeride specific rear hubs with a wider hub body for better load distribution" but elsewhere it appears to only be an axle conversion (same hub body).
I have a 150 CK hub that I want to change to 157mm. I expect that its only the axle I will have to change....
I have a 150 CK hub that I want to change to 157mm. I expect that its only the axle I will have to change....
Nope. They are changing the hub body as well. I'm in the same boat; I emailed CK about it and that's what they told me. As for shipping the new hubs they said Q1 of 2013, which could mean as late as March 31. I really hope their shipping date lines up with the shipping date of the new carbon V10 I have on order!!
You can't deny that 142/157 makes it much easier to install the wheel. No flipping the bike over or holding it up while you line up the hub/frame and slip in the axle. Just drop an upright bike onto the wheel and let gravity hold it in place while you insert the axle. That's why most 20mm forks have indents for the hub to rest in. Since nearly every 135/150 x 12 hub easily converts (or will soon) to the wider size it doesn't present the problems most new standards do.
I had to remove the 157mm end caps on my Havocs to fit them to the 150mm spacing on my 951... guess what? You need a 12mm hex key... who has that in their toolbox? Well, I do now.
Nope. They are changing the hub body as well. I'm in the same boat; I emailed CK about it and that's what they told me. As for shipping the new hubs they said Q1 of 2013, which could mean as late as March 31. I really hope their shipping date lines up with the shipping date of the new carbon V10 I have on order!!
I had to remove the 157mm end caps on my Havocs to fit them to the 150mm spacing on my 951... guess what? You need a 12mm hex key... who has that in their toolbox? Well, I do now.
yup, actually had to run out to home depot to get one as well.
Confirmed by Chris King on Facebook. There will be a 157mm axle available for current 150mm hubs.
I couldnt find any information on that on the facebook page. Instead I have an email from yesterday stating the opposite:
Hello Ralph,
Our 157x12 hubs are in production right now, but as your shop said they will not be shipping until the spring. The only difference in the hubs is the spacing, but the older 150 hubs cannot be converted to the 157 spacing. When the Gen 2 hub comes out you will be able to convert between the two sizes.
Kessler
Note, this also seems to contradict the press release stating a wider hub body for the new hubs:
So, I wonder exactly what is new about the hubs. Regardless, getting the Gen 2 hub seems the way to go. Or a different hub if you need it before April.
"Creationists make it sound like a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night." ~Isacc Asimov
Below I copy pasted the response by Chris King to someone's question about upgrading a current 150 ISO.. This is from the Chris King Precision Components Facebook page.
"You can get a replacement 157 axle that will upgrade your current 150"
Maybe both are true, in that the hubs are incompatible with each other. The DH Gen 2 hub will have its own body and axle, and the 150 hub can be adapted to the 157mm standard.
Thinking about it, that is what I would do if I were CK.
"Creationists make it sound like a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night." ~Isacc Asimov
Maybe both are true, in that the hubs are incompatible with each other. The DH Gen 2 hub will have its own body and axle, and the 150 hub can be adapted to the 157mm standard.
Thinking about it, that is what I would do if I were CK.
I think you're right, and it it would make logical sense.
Update from Chris King is that it will be March or April before delivery....hopefully
First DH race is in April. I cant afford to not have some time on the new bike before the race. So, today I cancelled the order for CK hubs I put in months ago and ordered Hadley instead. The shop tried to talk me into I-9, but I wasn't having it
Anyone think that was a mistake. (I was also thinking about DT Swiss...)
"Creationists make it sound like a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night." ~Isacc Asimov
Maybe both are true, in that the hubs are incompatible with each other. The DH Gen 2 hub will have its own body and axle, and the 150 hub can be adapted to the 157mm standard.
Thinking about it, that is what I would do if I were CK.
Yeah that would be cool. There is nothing wrong with my 150 ISO, other than it missing 3.5mm on each end. I'd love to keep it and just put a new axle in it, instead of getting rid of a perfectly good hub/wheel.
Still... CK emailed me and said that they're coming out with an entirely new 157 hub with a new hub body an all, and that the 150 is not going to have a 157 replacement axle. Hope I'm wrong or that they changed their mind. Maybe CK can chime in here?