• 01-19-2013
    tuumbaq
    Can anyone confirm whether or not the HOPE hub is a simple adaptor/converter thingy or is it an all new hub all together ?

    Im about to buy a set of 823's on Evo's 150mm and couldnt find anything on this . . .
  • 01-19-2013
    Fix the Spade
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tuumbaq View Post
    Im about to buy a set of 823's on Evo's 150mm and couldnt find anything on this . . .

    To make the Pro 2 Evo 150mm hub 157mm, you use the 142x12 end caps from the normal hub. They're just press on end caps, no special tools required.

    Must be the 150mm hub though, if it's the 135mm hub you end up at 142.
  • 01-19-2013
    tuumbaq
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fix the Spade View Post
    To make the Pro 2 Evo 150mm hub 157mm, you use the 142x12 end caps from the normal hub. They're just press on end caps, no special tools required.

    Must be the 150mm hub though, if it's the 135mm hub you end up at 142.

    thanks buddy :thumbsup:
  • 01-19-2013
    juanbeegas
  • 01-20-2013
    rdhfreethought
    Update from Chris King is that it will be March or April before delivery....hopefully
  • 01-20-2013
    bg.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Update from Chris King is that it will be March or April before delivery....hopefully

    Thanks.

    I`m trying to figure out exactly what the 2013 changes are to the 150/157mm hubs. They said "Updated 150mm and the brand new 157mm downhill and freeride specific rear hubs with a wider hub body for better load distribution" but elsewhere it appears to only be an axle conversion (same hub body).

    I have a 150 CK hub that I want to change to 157mm. I expect that its only the axle I will have to change....
  • 01-22-2013
    madriaanse
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bg. View Post

    I have a 150 CK hub that I want to change to 157mm. I expect that its only the axle I will have to change....

    Nope. They are changing the hub body as well. I'm in the same boat; I emailed CK about it and that's what they told me. As for shipping the new hubs they said Q1 of 2013, which could mean as late as March 31. I really hope their shipping date lines up with the shipping date of the new carbon V10 I have on order!! :)

    M.
  • 01-23-2013
    Orangesicle
    Easton has 157 conversion butt plugs in stock. Less than $20.
  • 01-23-2013
    madriaanse
    will those work with Chris King hubs?
  • 01-25-2013
    Lelandjt
    You can't deny that 142/157 makes it much easier to install the wheel. No flipping the bike over or holding it up while you line up the hub/frame and slip in the axle. Just drop an upright bike onto the wheel and let gravity hold it in place while you insert the axle. That's why most 20mm forks have indents for the hub to rest in. Since nearly every 135/150 x 12 hub easily converts (or will soon) to the wider size it doesn't present the problems most new standards do.
  • 01-25-2013
    fredro
    easton havoc 150 ust, with 157 end caps.
    http://gp1.pinkbike.org/p4pb9130758/p4pb9130758.jpg
  • 01-25-2013
    gretch
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fredro View Post
    easton havoc 150 ust, with 157 end caps.
    http://gp1.pinkbike.org/p4pb9130758/p4pb9130758.jpg

    I had to remove the 157mm end caps on my Havocs to fit them to the 150mm spacing on my 951... guess what? You need a 12mm hex key... who has that in their toolbox? Well, I do now.
  • 01-25-2013
    bg.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by madriaanse View Post
    Nope. They are changing the hub body as well. I'm in the same boat; I emailed CK about it and that's what they told me. As for shipping the new hubs they said Q1 of 2013, which could mean as late as March 31. I really hope their shipping date lines up with the shipping date of the new carbon V10 I have on order!! :)

    M.

    damn. that's not good news.:mad:
  • 01-26-2013
    fredro
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gretch View Post
    I had to remove the 157mm end caps on my Havocs to fit them to the 150mm spacing on my 951... guess what? You need a 12mm hex key... who has that in their toolbox? Well, I do now.

    yup, actually had to run out to home depot to get one as well.
  • 01-26-2013
    madriaanse
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bg. View Post
    damn. that's not good news.:mad:

    Sure isn't; could've been so simple...

    M.
  • 01-27-2013
    daisycutter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fredro View Post
    yup, actually had to run out to home depot to get one as well.

    Peak bikes didn't have a 12mm hex key or you didn't? Sweet bike, I saw it last week there might be some my drool on that frame.
  • 01-28-2013
    bg.
    Confirmed by Chris King on Facebook. There will be a 157mm axle available for current 150mm hubs.
  • 01-28-2013
    rdhfreethought
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bg. View Post
    Confirmed by Chris King on Facebook. There will be a 157mm axle available for current 150mm hubs.

    I couldnt find any information on that on the facebook page. Instead I have an email from yesterday stating the opposite:


    Quote:

    Hello Ralph,
    Our 157x12 hubs are in production right now, but as your shop said they will not be shipping until the spring. The only difference in the hubs is the spacing, but the older 150 hubs cannot be converted to the 157 spacing. When the Gen 2 hub comes out you will be able to convert between the two sizes.


    Kessler
    Note, this also seems to contradict the press release stating a wider hub body for the new hubs:

    New Stuff from Chris King | Mountain Bike Review

    So, I wonder exactly what is new about the hubs. Regardless, getting the Gen 2 hub seems the way to go. Or a different hub if you need it before April.
  • 01-29-2013
    bg.
    Below I copy pasted the response by Chris King to someone's question about upgrading a current 150 ISO.. This is from the Chris King Precision Components Facebook page.

    "You can get a replacement 157 axle that will upgrade your current 150"
  • 01-29-2013
    rdhfreethought
    Maybe both are true, in that the hubs are incompatible with each other. The DH Gen 2 hub will have its own body and axle, and the 150 hub can be adapted to the 157mm standard.

    Thinking about it, that is what I would do if I were CK.
  • 01-30-2013
    bg.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Maybe both are true, in that the hubs are incompatible with each other. The DH Gen 2 hub will have its own body and axle, and the 150 hub can be adapted to the 157mm standard.

    Thinking about it, that is what I would do if I were CK.


    I think you're right, and it it would make logical sense.
  • 02-11-2013
    rdhfreethought
    Quote:

    Update from Chris King is that it will be March or April before delivery....hopefully
    First DH race is in April. I cant afford to not have some time on the new bike before the race. So, today I cancelled the order for CK hubs I put in months ago and ordered Hadley instead. The shop tried to talk me into I-9, but I wasn't having it :)

    Anyone think that was a mistake. (I was also thinking about DT Swiss...)
  • 02-12-2013
    daisycutter
    Buying a Hadley hub is never a mistake. DT SWiss makes good hubs but I have found Hadleys to be in a league of their own.
  • 02-12-2013
    madriaanse
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Maybe both are true, in that the hubs are incompatible with each other. The DH Gen 2 hub will have its own body and axle, and the 150 hub can be adapted to the 157mm standard.

    Thinking about it, that is what I would do if I were CK.

    Yeah that would be cool. There is nothing wrong with my 150 ISO, other than it missing 3.5mm on each end. I'd love to keep it and just put a new axle in it, instead of getting rid of a perfectly good hub/wheel.

    Still... CK emailed me and said that they're coming out with an entirely new 157 hub with a new hub body an all, and that the 150 is not going to have a 157 replacement axle. Hope I'm wrong or that they changed their mind. Maybe CK can chime in here?

    M.
  • 02-12-2013
    billybobzia
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daisycutter View Post
    Buying a Hadley hub is never a mistake. DT SWiss makes good hubs but I have found Hadleys to be in a league of their own.

    totally agree..