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    Chronic hand pain

    I seem to be getting chronic hand pain{sharp} in my 3rd finger knuckle on both hands, I get the usual hand stuck in the closed position but the pain in the knuckles is really getting to me, I think its vibration but not sure. If it is do carbon handlebars make a fair bit of difference?

    or is there another way of getting rid of the pain, the real rough tracks were causing me a lot of pain today at the bike park

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    This is a common issue with holding on too tight. I had this problem and spoke to a roadie about it. In a nutshell he told me to loosen my grip on the bar and practice better ride/breathing techniques. They also recomended a better glove with more padding on the heal of the palm. I tried this and it works. I sometimes catch myself in the death grip on the bar, bad habit I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hangtime
    This is a common issue with holding on too tight. I had this problem and spoke to a roadie about it. In a nutshell he told me to loosen my grip on the bar and practice better ride/breathing techniques. They also recomended a better glove with more padding on the heal of the palm. I tried this and it works. I sometimes catch myself in the death grip on the bar, bad habit I guess.

    great advice just to relax...I would add getting a bigger, more padded grip like a ODI rogue or oury

    also might want to get your small bump sensitivity on your fork adjusted. make it faster or even get a complete rebuilt on fork
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    as the others have said, try minor adjustment on you suspension.
    also differant grips, are your grips thin if so try a fatter grip if they are thick then try a thinner grip.
    could also be worth looking into them ergon grips, from what i have read and heard these are designed to fit the shape of the hand and prevent the type of pain you are describing.
    http://www.ergon-bike.com/gb/en/home

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    Sounds like a pucker issue. Your squezing with your hands, rather than puckering, in the gnar sections. One of your buddies could be sabatoging you the night before. Make sure to always sleep on your back, and not face down, or spoon position.

    Seriously though, loosen your grip. Get used to riding at higher speed and brake less. It'll lessen as you progress through the season, as you regain/gain more confidence.
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    I got this BADLY too, I would have to stop rides because of the pain.

    Ergons helped, but did not remove. No idea on carbon bars, might help.

    The thing that fixed the issue was a suspension fork upgrade.
    I got a pair of White Brothers Fluid forks, so so plush that whatever I rode over the pain was just gone.

    I have since then moved to a Dorado, even better.

    This was not due to squeezing too hard, I even had my hands loose on the bars, that actually made it worse.
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    no really,

    *maybe try different grips...
    *different gloves (might be too tight)...
    *maybe a handle bar or stem with more rise...
    *maybe slightly longer reach.
    or as the others said -- relax your grip a little.
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    Are you 1 or 2 finger braking?
    What brakes are you using?

    If you can set up your brakes so you can 1 finger brake and run the contact point of the pads so the levers come in close to the bars at full lock up, you'll should useless pressure on the other fingers for holding on to the bar.

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    I'm curious to know if you're using gloves that have a one piece knuckle protector on the top of the glove. I had a pair of 661 Cedrics that had those protective plates and they would start hurting my hands in the EXACT same place after about 3-4 runs down the mountain. I'm positive those knuckle plates were preventing my knuckles from flexing/moving naturally.
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    i too have noticed this, with gloves that have carbon knuckle protector. (2 pairs dakine and fox) both caused like a bruise type pain in my knuckle.
    also as mentioned, could be worth changing your brake lever reach pad contact ect and maybe gear shifters. also the angle of the brake lever to.

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    Loosen the grip, get bigger grips (my hands were seriously swolen after riding on the ruffians) and maybe add a bit more damping to both rebound and compression. A bit more controled ride somehow always seems to help my arms and hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaveGiant
    I even had my hands loose on the bars, that actually made it worse.
    me too, this caused agony, I have just swapped the grips with my xc ones which are slightly thicker,softer

    1 finger braking with new saints,adjusted as far in as poss so not reaching for the levers

    I have vannilla rc2's on the front which admittedly I set everything in the middle and found I didn't even notice the fork, it felt great so didn't adjust anything

    so if I reduce rebound and increase small bump sensitivety is that going the right way?

    thanks for the input so far

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    Go see a hand surgeon/specialist to rule out medical problems.

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    1) see a doctor first, check there is no major problem
    2) get some Specialized gloves, they have the palm pad in the right place, unlike 90% of gloves
    3) try riding with less / no weight on your hands, it will feel weird to begin with but you should be able to after some practice, if you get this right you will probably start riding faster too as your body weight will be more centered on the bike
    4) work on chest, shoulder and core strength, you'll be able to support yourself better without relying on your hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zodiac
    1) see a doctor first, check there is no major problem
    2) get some Specialized gloves, they have the palm pad in the right place, unlike 90% of gloves
    3) try riding with less / no weight on your hands, it will feel weird to begin with but you should be able to after some practice, if you get this right you will probably start riding faster too as your body weight will be more centered on the bike
    4) work on chest, shoulder and core strength, you'll be able to support yourself better without relying on your hands
    1, begining to agree
    2, have some as I had the nerve thing pretty bad a while ago, this is different though
    3,I lean back a lot when downhilling, its probably more like I'm pullig back on the bars than leaning on them
    4,I think I need to do this anyway as I'm a strong back weak front person with shoulders of bone and skin

    as a relative newbie to bike parks and uplifts a lot maybe technique, I'm thinking experiment with the suspension on the front as I'm a bit put it in the middle it will do tbh, I posted on the low/high speed compression post to maybe get some tips, I'm hoping a few little changes may at least make it a bit more bearable

    thanks again everyone

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    same thing happened to me. it's the death grip...the loose, more relaxed grip poses no problems.

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    its either your death grip or tendon infections

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    What angle do you have your brake levers set? I notice this kind of thing when I have to reach up for my brakes. I have mine set really low now and it helps. Loosen off the lever clamps a bit. Sit on the bike the way you normally do when you ride, with your hands in a natural position. Now extend your index (braking) finger so that it is straight (you are likely pointing at the ground a meter or so from the front of your bike). Adjust the brake lever angle and reach so that the leverage point matches your finger position. That should help TONS.

    And don't death grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Techfreak
    What angle do you have your brake levers set? I notice this kind of thing when I have to reach up for my brakes. I have mine set really low now and it helps. Loosen off the lever clamps a bit. Sit on the bike the way you normally do when you ride, with your hands in a natural position. Now extend your index (braking) finger so that it is straight (you are likely pointing at the ground a meter or so from the front of your bike). Adjust the brake lever angle and reach so that the leverage point matches your finger position. That should help TONS.

    And don't death grip.
    Brake lever angle is what I have seen help as well.

    Grip size is another. I don't have hand problems riding DH, but I tried switching the the TLD ODI grips for angle fire and after one run I really sore hands so I went back to my ODI Rogues and my hands felt normal again.

    I have a friend who races and she has been having a lot of hand problems as well that seem to be much better after we switched her brake levers to be more vertical. She used to run her levers almost horizontal to the ground (not quite, but you get the direction better when I describe it that way). Now she runs them much steeper. she also tapes her trigger finger and that is helping a lot. When she forgets to tape she feels it immediately.

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    I get this too and noticed loosening my grip helps some. Not sure what results I'll get, but I added forearm exercises in at the gym recently hoping to help with this. Holding a curlbar with palms up, I'll lower the bar extending down so I'm just barely holding onto the bar with my fingers, then curl it back up starting with my fingers, then hands and forearms. I definitely feel it the next day. And as a previous poster mentioned, core strength is important and often overlooked.

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    3rd finger pain is caused by having your fingers on the brake levers too much. When you have a finger or two on the brake lever, your ring and pinkie fingers have to do all the gripping. Teach yourself to only put your fingers on the brake levers when you are actually braking, and keep all fingers on the grips the rest of the time. Also when braking, try not to squeeze the grip so hard with the ring and pinkie finger.

    I also recommend against padded gloves, as they usually make hand pain worse. All motocross gloves have unpadded palms (I highly recommend Thor Cores). I've had a season pass at Whistler since 2003 and usually ride the park 3-10 days in a row, and I ride mtb/mx 3-5 days/week, so I've learned a lot about how to prevent finger/hand/wrist/arm pain.

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    1. Stop being a Vagina
    2. This happens when you go from riding two or three times a week, to riding all day consecutive days at a bike park.
    3. It will get better as the season progresses. Your hands/wrists will get stronger and more used to working harder as you do it more often. In fact, I bet it won't be as bad after next week.
    4. When you get "the claw" take a break for a few runs. Eat a sandwich, drink a beer. you'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccspecialized
    1. Stop being a Vagina
    2. This happens when you go from riding two or three times a week, to riding all day consecutive days at a bike park.
    3. It will get better as the season progresses. Your hands/wrists will get stronger and more used to working harder as you do it more often. In fact, I bet it won't be as bad after next week.
    4. When you get "the claw" take a break for a few runs. Eat a sandwich, drink a beer. you'll be fine.
    That is cheaper than buying a new fork, but I prefer my method.

    If you want to strengthen your wrists there are two good options

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    If you get the powerball there is a rival manufacturer call steelball, much much better device, but you will pay for it.
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