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    whats it about

    yes that means i dont know so dont bother with the "you dont know! haha" 's and just tell me

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    Berrecloth on Discovery in 1 Hour(East coast anyway)

    Berrecloth on Discovery in 1 Hour(East coast anyway). Get off the computer and get in front of the TV. This is ur last reminder.......
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    I guess it's Berrelcloth hitting some line in Utah, some drop, and showing his bike. I assume it's at 9PM Central Time. I am definitely watching this..

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    someone want to record it for me then send it up to canada and pay for next day shipping?

    there might be a cookie in it for you

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    yeah supposidly gonna do the line at utah and drop out of the specialized warehouse. They are gonne review his blue demo 8 too. This is gonna be a cool show. Butive gotta flip back and fourth between this and the BC vs. duke game
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    Yo thanks for reminding me I was about to crash for the night

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    The testing section where they went through the Specialized factory was pretty cool to see! Other than that, it was ok, sick line.

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    way over dramatized...still cool to see us gettin some public attention though

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    "darren was able to keep the forces of gravity, air resistance and friction in equilibrium"
    tried to make it wayyyy to sciency. But Darrens blue demo w/ white travis was so hawt.
    I thought he was supposed to drop out of the specialized warehouse
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    don't get me wrong it was a cool segment, but i feel like it was way hyped. I mean it seemed liked the drops in the rampage were a lot bigger then the majority of the stuff on that line. I guess for people who don't know about freeriding it would seem way cool, but to the fan, it just seemed a lot like stuff that has already been done.
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    It would have been nice if they showed a bit more riding or footage of the specialized factory.

    All of the hype up and layman's applied science was lame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetMe2MT
    The testing section where they went through the Specialized factory was pretty cool to see! Other than that, it was ok, sick line.
    That was kind of a let down(short because of all the commecials) I did like when they went over the bike and that 360 was sick!
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    I thought it was pretty cool, especially considering how little of our sport we get on tv. Some decent footage as well as sort of a noob approach to it that explained it to those folks who probably otherwise would have no clue what's going on. And of course his AWESOMELY hot blue Demo. haha.

    I mean, sure it wasn't like watching Earthed or anything liek that, but it's a decent start and some good publicity for our sport.


    I bet Specialized LOVED the show, with all the mentions of Specialized and footage of the factory and everything.
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    Cool. But they played up the stuntman image way too much. We are athletes not daredevils hucking off anything that's "deathdefying." Sick line though

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    It still made me want to go ride my bike.


    And yes, his bike is HOT!

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    i'm pissed, it was good, but a 2K+ frame they break just for discovery where as they could have given it away for people to try out. but it shows how tough the bike is. the line was sick, but too much talk, not enough riding.

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    I didnt like it to much. The start got me so excited to see him ride this line. When he finally did the line it was like 10 seconds and they didnt have enough cameras on it. Plus the whole comentary sucked.

    Though it was pretty sweet when they bent that demo frame 11 g's is just nuts

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    Shut the hell up man I aint seen it yet!
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    I'm just happy to watch freeride mtb on TV here in Kansas. Good show.
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    They should have pushed that annoying talking head out of the chopper on the way up...

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    I agree

    Quote Originally Posted by COmtbiker12
    I thought it was pretty cool, especially considering how little of our sport we get on tv. Some decent footage as well as sort of a noob approach to it that explained it to those folks who probably otherwise would have no clue what's going on.
    Certainly nothing the hard core MTBer would jump up and down over, but to the uneducated masses, a positive look at the sport. Moreso, I found it personally interesting to see just how much preparation went into the stunt. Lotta work on the trail, etc. etc.

    It will be on tomorrow night same time for those who missed it.

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    I love that bike that blue is the shiznat and when there showing the fork i was like really thats how those things work lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by freerider167
    i'm pissed, it was good, but a 2K+ frame they break just for discovery where as they could have given it away for people to try out. but it shows how tough the bike is. the line was sick, but too much talk, not enough riding.
    Lol, you know it doesn't cost $2k to make right?
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    It was ehhhh. The bike was sweet. I recorded it but need a host if anyone is interested in hosting 20 minutes of buildup for 2 mins of action.
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    What a letdown. I think it was way overhyped. Commentary sucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp3d
    They should have pushed that annoying talking head out of the chopper on the way up...
    I agree, that guy was annoying as hell. It was cool just to see our sport on TV and it was pretty hardcore because of the possibility of riding off the edge but if they were going to do a discovery channel show they should have had some larger drops. I wasn’t really impressed till the 360 at the end. What I dont get is they kept saying it was the longest line down a hill ever. Correct me if Im wrong but aren’t lines at Whistler 1500'?

    Edit, Actually I shouldn’t say I wasn’t impressed because I doubt I would be hitting that but the problem is the bar has been set so high by other riders doing crazier stuff that you see on DVD's and on line all the time and when you see the discovery channel is doing a feature you would expect that there would be more wow factor. But like I said before, its still cool and worth watching. And props to Berrecloth for nailing a trail that most of us will never see let alone ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by Call_me_Clyde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deweydude
    Shut the hell up man I aint seen it yet!

    Dude I know... cursed west coast time! Damn thee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdirt
    Dude I know... cursed west coast time! Damn thee!
    hey, we can't have everything. At least i'm not all fired up to get let down now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachdank
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    crap!

    I missed it.

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    Atleast someones positive is getting visibility. And he didn't crash!!!
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    I thought it was pretty good. Sure it was overhyped, but compared to shows like Jeep KOTM, it rocked, and it was some pretty damn good exposure for the sport. I had a few freinds over tonight and we watched it. They dont ride and really havent been interested in it till now, but they thought the show was pretty badass, and thats what it all about. Getting more people into our sport.

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    That was good, the science part was funny but if you dont know about the sport it puts more suspense into it. Those that ride would like to see more action especially the wherhouse jump?? but the average joe would think it's totally insane!! I would give it a 8 of 10, great for the sport

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    Good program for the FR world exposure. I agree with what was said mostly.

    But

    I think that people are being too critical about his line selection and what he did on his run. Bearclaw on his first attempt down the hill played it safe, just like everyone else does with any new line. Making it down was his primary goal. A couple of style points in there but overall just playing it safe. At the end he implied that he wanted to do it again because he saw some things that he could do better (more style).
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    it's at 11 on the west coast (SMT, you didn't miss it)...

    I'm kind of excited about watching it.

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    Cool, I can watch it then!

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    That was teh weakest sausage...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetMe2MT
    The testing section where they went through the Specialized factory was pretty cool to see! Other than that, it was ok, sick line.

    That was cool when they folded the downtube on the stress machine.I wasnt impressed with the riding footage..however, Big D was there and maybe he filmed footage for new world disorder 7. That was a sick line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zerossix
    way over dramatized...still cool to see us gettin some public attention though

    Agreed! That show is exactly what's wrong with TV it can take pretty good footage or stunts and just make it look like Drama tv.

    I have watched a couple shows but now that I have seen the MTB episode I am removing it from the Tivo. The host is aweful and I despise Drama tv. And people wonder why all I watch are Animated comedies and racing (f1 and Motorcyle) everything else is just not worth it.
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    Exactly, Tony.

    Quote Originally Posted by COmtbiker12
    I thought it was pretty cool, especially considering how little of our sport we get on tv. Some decent footage as well as sort of a noob approach to it that explained it to those folks who probably otherwise would have no clue what's going on. And of course his AWESOMELY hot blue Demo. haha.

    I mean, sure it wasn't like watching Earthed or anything liek that, but it's a decent start and some good publicity for our sport.


    I bet Specialized LOVED the show, with all the mentions of Specialized and footage of the factory and everything.
    For TV coverage of FR, it wasn't half bad. Green horns who know nothing about the sport get a peek at what some of it is about, and we get to see something on TV other than "Desperate Housewives". Well, I don't watch "Desperate House****s"...I usually watch the History channel...I'm old so the H channel is actually like watching home movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxrider489
    Cool. But they played up the stuntman image way too much. We are athletes not daredevils hucking off anything that's "deathdefying." Sick line though
    agreed and the drama was just ghey! still, that line was really exposed in spots and I really don't think the "cinematography" did much justice to just how gnar it was. Maybe we just think that if the drops aren't huge, then its not that impressive. Personally, I think a 15' drop to an exposed pinpoint landing is a lot more ballsy than droping 30' to a nice long runout. But that's just me.

    Good exposure either way for us, hokey as it was.
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    I agree it wasn't great.

    Darren was cool and stuff, the line was okay, but they hyped it up waaaayyyy too much. What they showed actual riding in the first intro of the show, all those clips from other stuff, maybe 30 seconds? Then his actual line was maybe another 30 seconds?

    Honestly, its cool that it was on there, but they need some new hosts. That blonde 60 year old guy was more annoying than the bald guy. He kept saying retarded stuff the whole time Darren was getting ready and scoping it out, etc.

    Overall, cool that it was on TV, but poorly shot and the hosts were annoying as F%!*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jherich
    Yes he is.

    The bald guy gave Darren full props for what he did and even got to ride with him a little - I do think there was too much applied science though and not enough riding footage. The camera work sucked a little too. I'm surprised they didn't mention the Rampage more - it made it seem like he was the only rider to ever do this. Overall it was better than I thought it would be considering it was a 30 minute show.

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    Ugh...

    A couple things...

    1) Darren is the shiot but that show didnt do him much justice.
    2) I really hope he got paid well to do that...I have no idea how he kept a straight face the whole time. You know he must have thought those hosts were total clowns.
    3) I felt like I was watching a Fox special, over done.

    That's it actually.

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    It was worth staying up late to watch.

    Berrecloth was the total profesional (unlike the doped out jerk image some people have of the FR/DH crowd).
    I would have loved to see more of the Specialized factory (the warehouse drop!).
    That pow blue Demo was HAWT!
    I agree, the line while long wasn't too hardcore especially compared to some of the mildest DVDs out there.

    Either way, Darren was a good representative of our segment of the sport and overall any positive coverage of MTB on a mainstream TV show is good news.
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    a few observations:
    1. all of you questioning that line would never even try the first 250 feet. it was bad camera lines and cinematography that robbed the run of its just due. and db made it look so smooth and easy. it was not the hardest line in history but i dont remember anyone saying it was.
    2. who cares about announcers or interviewers? its all about exposure. this aint mtv-its the discovery channel for christs sake.
    3. until one of you post a video anywhere near that level stfu. it is hard work. be happy for darren. for freeriding. im mean really the constant siskel and ebert (mostly talking out the side of your assses) is getting sooooo old here.
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    Dude none of us were knocking on DB. In fact we were all saying how awsome of a rider we all think he is. We were commenting that the level of hype that went with the run was too much. We were saying that for being on tv. we all thought the run would be a little more spectacular. We also comented on the fact that it was the layout of the show we didnt like, not the riding.

    See telling people that they are talking out of their asses for honest comments doesnt make really affect them at all, it does however make you sound like an @sshole.

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    breaking that frame is all part of research and development. Every single company does the same thing because they need to see what their bikes can handle. I mean you wouldnt want to release a frame to the public market without stress testing it first because if it had a defect in it, it could be the end of your company.
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    it was pretty cool, but really ghey at the same time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBSully
    "darren was able to keep the forces of gravity, air resistance and friction in equilibrium"
    tried to make it wayyyy to sciency. But Darrens blue demo w/ white travis was so hawt.
    I thought he was supposed to drop out of the specialized warehouse
    no dude thats another video either coming out from specialized or on the web
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOILWORK
    That was cool when they folded the downtube on the stress machine.I wasnt impressed with the riding footage..however, Big D was there and maybe he filmed footage for new world disorder 7. That was a sick line.
    I want to know why they expressed the destructive force in Gs rather than PSI. Gs is a measure of acceleration/decceleration.
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    well i really ****ed up this time, i thought it was sapost to air on the 4th so i waited to set the DVR to record it, and then went to a gay ass College Basket Ball game, and missed it. i am so ****ing pissed. but i did check the Discovery Channel web site and it will air again on Feb. 28 and March 1.

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    Wow, the bald guy was really really difficult to stomach, especially with his childlike maniacal laugh.
    I saw a show spotlighting him. He's a BASE jumper doing crazy/difficult jumps and shooting through bridges, etc.

    Considering how lame television is, I was pretty surprised at how good the segment was.

    Of course, it wasn't like a good mtb video, but for tv, it was decent.

    I'm also surprised at how good of an attitude Berrecloth had.

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    clips from the movies were sick and darren was sick but the show they put him onnn succkkkkkkkkeddd
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    i thopught it was pretty cool to see the warehouse, becuase i did that virtual tour/mission thing on the specialized website a while ago and it looked exactly like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman
    breaking that frame is all part of research and development. Every single company does the same thing because they need to see what their bikes can handle. I mean you wouldnt want to release a frame to the public market without stress testing it first because if it had a defect in it, it could be the end of your company.
    I agree...I think they did that on tv as a way of marketing thier frame and how strong it is.
    I bet they will sell a sh#t load of frames just from showing that on tv.
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    I thought the filming of the line was horrible, I couldn't tell what was going on. And it was kinda stupid about the "biggest line ever done" thats really wasn't true
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    Yeah, they kept changing camera views so much I had no idea what was going on, and you didnt even get to see everything too well, and that guys laugh while he watched him was annoying. I guess I was let down by it, I thought it would have been much different.

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    i taped it and didn't watch it until today. my opinions were that it was awesome to get our sport noticed and im sure it will spark some interest but the hole style of the show was lame. the hole making riders sound like daredevils instead of athletes i didn't like. i thought the host was ok cause he was a base jumper so it could'v been worse. he did give darren props which was cool and he did get on a bike. i think the hole ultimate line thing was very played out though. i think it would of been better to show a line from BC or somewhere else with more northshore style instead of a crazy rampage line, so that people could see the flowing technique instead of just balls out hucking. i think that bearclaw was an excellent rider to pick for the show though, and hes one of my favorites for sure. he even seemed to sort of at the end get a little tired of the hype about it. IMO its just about having fun riding and progressing, not about trying to go bigger and better like a stunt man. overall awesome that it got on TV, will help the sport out for sure. the specialized tour was awesome though

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    basically through the whole show when they were talking about science and math shizt, im just like "sure y not", when they crushed the down tube on the demo i didnt get why they had the frame upside down and pushing in on the head tube, i would think that they would put it atleast pushing the way a fork would push on the head tube. Yeah that show was pretty gehy, and that guys laugh made me want to shoot myself in the foot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    I want to know why they expressed the destructive force in Gs rather than PSI. Gs is a measure of acceleration/decceleration.
    Is it wrong? from what I understood, 11 G's during a drop would break the frame.

    I didnt agree that You can do 100,000 20' drops on a demo 9 frame before it would crack, break, w/e. LOL. too many variables to calculate how much abuse a frame can take before it breaks.
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    riding style - smooth? abusive?
    type of terrain - soft dirt? concrete?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master_Jako
    Is it wrong? from what I understood, 11 G's during a drop would break the frame.

    I didnt agree that You can do 100,000 20' drops on a demo 9 frame before it would crack, break, w/e. LOL. too many variables to calculate how much abuse a frame can take before it breaks.
    rider weight,
    riding style - smooth? abusive?
    type of terrain - soft dirt? concrete?
    temperature
    type of shock installed
    geometry
    differant forks
    ect...
    It is very wrong. The testing machine does not subject the frame to high (if any) G-loads. It does apply a high load force. It is the same as the difference between running a car into a solid wall at speed and crushing a car in a compactor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebfreerider510
    i taped it and didn't watch it until today. my opinions were that it was awesome to get our sport noticed and im sure it will spark some interest but the hole style of the show was lame. the hole making riders sound like daredevils instead of athletes i didn't like. i thought the host was ok cause he was a base jumper so it could'v been worse. he did give darren props which was cool and he did get on a bike. i think the hole ultimate line thing was very played out though. i think it would of been better to show a line from BC or somewhere else with more northshore style instead of a crazy rampage line, so that people could see the flowing technique instead of just balls out hucking. i think that bearclaw was an excellent rider to pick for the show though, and hes one of my favorites for sure. he even seemed to sort of at the end get a little tired of the hype about it. IMO its just about having fun riding and progressing, not about trying to go bigger and better like a stunt man. overall awesome that it got on TV, will help the sport out for sure. the specialized tour was awesome though
    can you send me a copy.? plz..

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    I enjoyed it, but they way overhyped it. Was Bearclaw the first to do a 360 on a drop? It made it seem like he is the only person who is able to ride big drops and do tricks. I think he is an incredibly talented rider, but he was not the first freerider. Also a 1500' descent is the longest ever? Most ski resorts have runs that long or longer... too much hype and BS spewed by the host. Much respect for DB for attempting that line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    It is the same as the difference between running a car into a solid wall at speed and crushing a car in a compactor.
    Now it makes sense.

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    Some things that got to me:

    Rim brakes on his 3D bike.
    Shoddy photography trying to make it look extreme. The left hand side wasn't a 1,000foot cliff like they made it out to be

    Demo frame being bent in wrong direction. A frame doing drops does not cause the front wheel to pull in towards your feet. Their device was simulating running into a wall straight on. Specialized guy made a total clown out of himself by saying they were testing for drop strength.

    Ohhhh, and best of all, the 3D explanation of how a fork works had the damper and spring on the wrong sides. TV show idiots must think left hand side of your fork is when your looking at the front of the bike, not when you're on the bike.

    Bald guy belongs at a supergo shop.

    Who were all the chodes on the show talking about his line, who don't even ride?

    On top of that, I don't think Barecloth made it down in one try. Their shoddy camera editing makes me think he skipped a little or fell on one of his attempts before they could get more footage.

    Show me an unedited clip of him going all the way down it, then I will believe their hype. I don't doubt his superior riding skills, but they should have come out of there with more footage. Makes sense why they filled the rest of the 30 minutes with BS.

    Other than that I'll take Freeriding on TV no matter how chodetastic the host is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COmtbiker12
    Lol, you know it doesn't cost $2k to make right?
    being sarcastic. but at least we can say that the head tube is less likely to crack, more like the downtube bending or buckling.

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