it's the same only made in Germany by focus which belong like db to derby cycle...
watch this video and some were you will see the mission frame on a drawing
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this is how it looks these days. changed my user name from nma as i forgot the password.
raleigh america own the rights to the frame design & lease it to diamond back for the american market & focus have the licence or europe.db is no where to be seen in the uk anymore.
it is fully made in germany & this would be backed up by the difference in welding techniques used.
if you look at some of the missions the welding is like bird pooh compared to my bigbud.
so i would say it is better made given the few cracks we have starting to appear in the otherwise faultless mission.
AN ANSWER TO THE ABOVE.
this is how it looks these days. changed my user name from nma as i forgot the password.
raleigh america own the rights to the frame design & lease it to diamond back for the american market & focus have the licence or europe.db is no where to be seen in the uk anymore.
it is fully made in germany & this would be backed up by the difference in welding techniques used.
if you look at some of the missions the welding is like bird pooh compared to my bigbud.
so i would say it is better made given the few cracks we have starting to appear in the otherwise faultless mission.
That's a good question. I cracked the frame at the weld where the knucklebox pivot meets the frame after just a couple month of riding. What you see in the pictures above is pretty much the most air I ever do on my Mission. That should be well within the abilities of an AM bike under a 160lb rider in my opinion. I used to go much bigger on my old Fisher hardtail without damaging it.
I'm not convinced that my frame was the problem though. My shock was acting strange, bottoming out hard almost everytime I landed even when pumped up near the 300psi max. I'm sure that didn't do anything for its structural integrity.
My shock is fixed now thanks to PUSH, and the 2009 Mission frame is supposed to be slightly stronger. Hopefully that means no more cracks, because I really, really love how the Mission rides and handles.
I can't really answer your question about reliability. I just don't know if this crack was caused by bad frame design or too much bottoming out. You'll have to ask me again in a few months. If you have a warranty though, you have nothing to worry about. DB's customer service has treated me extremely well, and I'm sure you'll have the same experience.
Also, for what its worth, I've only ever heard of one person who cracked his Mission and he was doing some pretty intense stuff.
Ha! I've heard of a whole lot more than one. Three different people out of just our shop. Could be because of the terrain down here too, don't know. I'm sure they strengthened the tubing on the 08-09 runs though. Haven't heard of too many of those breaking at all. 07 was a flawed year in tubing spec but DB has good customer service, so I'm sure that problem has been adressed.
^^I've heard quite a few other Mission owners reporting cracked frames since I wrote that post. Its nice to know that I'm not the only one who had bad luck with durability...
Not quite true, DB UK is a separate company to the DB-rest of the world (but still owned by Raleigh). The BMX's are just the US models imported but the mtb range is unique to the UK, it's a lot more DH/freeride aimed than DB's elsewhere.
I want to see some close ups of your big bud welds. And we shall see!!! Are you sure the frame is welded in Germany? I would think that it is made in the same factory and shipped to Deutchland for assembly and then that allows them to say made in Germany.
I just came back from a wonderful ride on my Mission, and felt like posting up a shot. No action pics this time unfortunately. We were having to much fun on the drops and jumps to stop and get cameras.
oh no!? This riding is innappropriate for a Sortie I'm afraid. Break that frame and they got plenty of evidence to utilize in not honoring the warranty.
But that is about the only jump I do on it and the landing is a smooth transition to a downhill. It is a very smooth landing and the Sortie is more than equiped for it. Plus I am only 150 lbs!! The new 5" Sortie is a very awesome frame.
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