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    Just curiously, what sort of rear axle does this frame run? I know it's 142 x 12, but I'm a little unsure whether it's Syntace, Rockshox maxle, or if they're the same, or if it's something else?

    Reason I ask: I'm interested in the frame-only option (since I've got an XC 29er with wheels, brakes & drivetrain I'm happy to keep and swap over), and by the looks of the photos the frame-only option doesn't come with the rear axle (though it does come with a KS dropper post - sweet!).

    So I'm wondering what type of axle I need to buy, and then I'll need to know what sort of adapters I'll have to get for my Hope Pro2 Evo rear hub. They have "12mm both thru" and "X12" options.

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    Large will be fine. Price?
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    anyone have idea of price for 2014 frame-only? or maybe it frame/seatpost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered View Post
    Just curiously, what sort of rear axle does this frame run? I know it's 142 x 12, but I'm a little unsure whether it's Syntace, Rockshox maxle, or if they're the same, or if it's something else?

    Reason I ask: I'm interested in the frame-only option (since I've got an XC 29er with wheels, brakes & drivetrain I'm happy to keep and swap over), and by the looks of the photos the frame-only option doesn't come with the rear axle (though it does come with a KS dropper post - sweet!).

    So I'm wondering what type of axle I need to buy, and then I'll need to know what sort of adapters I'll have to get for my Hope Pro2 Evo rear hub. They have "12mm both thru" and "X12" options.
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    From what I've gathered, the frame set does come with a Rock Shox Maxle and I thought a rear hub. That may have changed for 2014. I know 2013's had the hub.

    As for which Hope adapters, I would go with 12mm over the X12. You may want to talk to Hope or your LBS to confirm. I am not an expert on the differences between the two systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l84biking View Post
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    From what I've gathered, the frame set does come with a Rock Shox Maxle and I thought a rear hub. That may have changed for 2014. I know 2013's had the hub.

    As for which Hope adapters, I would go with 12mm over the X12. You may want to talk to Hope or your LBS to confirm. I am not an expert on the differences between the two systems.

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    I contacted an owner from earlier in the thread and he confirmed it's a Rockshox maxle axle, and was pretty sure the frame-only comes with at least an axle. It will arrive in a week or so - then I'll know the deal.

    As for the Hope adapters, the FAQ on the CRC page for the adapters seemed to indicate X12, and then Hope confirmed this in an email. I gather from what I've read and have been told, it seems that the 142 x 12 standard was started by Syntace, who called it X12 (anyone feel free to correct me on that). Indeed there are 142 x 12 rear ends out there that require longer axles to cope with a pivot point concentric to the rear axle (Devinci, Trek), but as far as hub standards go, Syntace X12 seems to be the interface that's required.

    About to order stem, bars and a Hope ISCG chain guide. Then I'll be ready to put it all together in a few weeks. Will probably switch from my Panaracer Rampage 2.35's to Ardent 2.4's sometime after that.

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    old thread is old.

    I am seriously considering buying one of these to replace my Karate Monkey. I like the short 17" chainstays on the Monkey but the front end is not confident on the drops and steps that are so common on central Texas trails.

    I am considering the regular Mason which comes with a 140mm Sektor fork and a non-dropper post, or buying the frameset and putting a 120mm fork on it.

    I feel like the long fork and super slack front end might be a bit much for some of my riding. I might want to replace the fork with one with travel adustment on the fly, but want would the geo feel like if I put some spacers in the fork and dropped it to 120mm? would that steepen the front end enough to make the bike feel a little bit more XC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post

    I am considering the regular Mason which comes with a 140mm Sektor fork and a non-dropper post, or buying the frameset and putting a 120mm fork on it.

    I feel like the long fork and super slack front end might be a bit much for some of my riding. I might want to replace the fork with one with travel adustment on the fly, but want would the geo feel like if I put some spacers in the fork and dropped it to 120mm? would that steepen the front end enough to make the bike feel a little bit more XC?
    Hey Mack_Turtle,

    For steep hills, I drop the fork down to 110mm (Fox Talas fork) and it is way more responsive in a more XC way. In addition, the bottom bracket will lower to give you a more XC feel but I don't think it'll increase pedal strikes.

    Can the Sektor fork have the travel reduced with a spacer? May want to ask Rock Shox or your LBS.

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    Hi folks,

    This is my first post here other than an intro in the General Discussion forum and for the record, I've read just about all the fitting threads I could find on this model by searching first...

    I know this thread is kinda old and the Mason, it seems, is already very well accepted but I'm looking at this model as my first mtn bike. My biggest concern at this point is frame size and proper fit. Having zero experience on a bike like this, I have nothing to draw upon. None of the shops in my area seem to have this model in stock much less the size I need to try. I've thrown a leg over a medium Overdrive and it felt a tad big. But again, I don't know how the Mason is supposed to fit...

    I'm 5'08" with a 30" inseam measured without shoes to the floor. All the other threads on this topic seem to be for guys straddling the line between large/med or large/XL which doesn't help me a whole lot. I'm on that line between small/med. DB's website says I fit a med, and with what appears to be a more sloping top tube on the Mason vs. the Overdrive, I'm kind of inclined to believe that. But I don't know what that means other than comfort in my crotch. How big a difference on the Mason specifically, is there between a small and med in other dimensions? Will I be cramped on a small or have to over extend on a med? My riding intention with this will be weekend trail runs with the boys with the occasional ride into a back country stream to fish. I want it to be primarily for fun, half-day blasts if that helps solve the fit equation.

    Thanks for your patience with a blind rider.

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    On the larger frame, you'll have deeper seatpost insertion (may come into play with a dropper) and longer reach to the bars. I went to the larger size with mine, preferring longer reach/shorter stem. If you up size, and the reach is long, you can lose an inch or so with a shorter stem. Shorter stems yield more direct steering, and are generally preferred over long stems for AM riding.

    Plenty of riders have done the exact opposite and gone with the smaller,'more nimble' size. YMMV.

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    Thanks AllMountin', I appreciate you taking the time. My gut tells me to go with a med. frame. With what appears to be a more steeply angled top tube I think my standover will be fine while preserving a more correct balance among other dimensions. I'm going to post a thread in the AZ forum to see if there's anyone nearby that has one I can throw a leg over.

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