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    Anyone here seen or ridden a Sortie 29er?

    Curious to see if anyone has ridden a Sortie 29er? Can't find a whole of of press on it, save for one or two internet reviews.

    Bike magazine had a blurb on it in their bible issue, but other than that, it's as if no one owns this bike out there.

    Curious to hear some ride impressions, fit, etc.

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    Rode Eric Porter's around the camp at MBO last year, but that doesn't really count...and that was the last-generation proto. And way too big for me. FWIW, I also watched him slaying Alpine on it too....

    If you're interested, you should contact DB directly.

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    Just seems like they have sold zero of these bikes.

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    My buddy has a Sortie 1 29er. He likes it a lot, but it's also his first real mtb as the Mission is mine.

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    I have not seen any around here where I live either. I'm in Chattanooga, TN and no one has them nor do any of the bigger cities that I'm close too (Nashville, KNoxville, Atlanta). I know because I was interested in buying one but wanted to demo one and there were none. I called everywhere closest to me and none were on hand. IDK what the deal is on this bike and I wonder if DB may cancel this for lack of sales. The reviews seem to be good but IDK. I've never seen them on the trails either.

    Don't know what to say about it...

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    Because I couldn't find one to demo I ended up looking at other bikes and landed up purchasing a SC Tallboy carbon. The Tallboy seems real close to the Sortie with the exception of the suspensions, knucklebox vs the VPP.

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    Honest Review

    This short review is coming from someone who has a SC Tallboy LTc on order. I sold my Salsa Spearfish that I loved cause my riding tends to be pretty aggressive and the Spearfish just wasn't enough bike for what I wanted to do. My LBS owner is letting me ride is Sortie 29er 2 while I wait for my frame to come in. Right now I am under my usual fitness level so last Thursday when my brother and I decided we would do a 3 hour climb followed by an hour descent I was a little worried that my legs would blow up. Starting out on the Sortie I immediately felt comfortable on the bike. There wasn't anything weird at all about the fit. It just felt right. While we climbed I was really impressed with the efficiency of the Knuckle Box suspension design. I had tons of traction even on the steepest climbs and the bike seemed to just motor up everything. Now, it wasn't a peppy feeling bike on the climbs and I think the combination of a stout (read a little heavy) frame and my lack of fitness played major rolls in that feeling. That being said my brother was really surprised with how well I was climbing and honestly so was I. I give a lot of credit to the bike being natural and efficient. I couldn't detect any sort of flex while standing and pedaling so the bike felt plenty stiff. I don't know what the BB height is but I only had one pedal strike on a rocky section of the climb but on the descent I felt like I could rail the corners. Going down is where the bike is at home. The beefy frame was extremely stable and confidence inspiring. It's scary how fast you can get going on this bike and thankfully it's able to handle it all. There is one thing that I wished was different on the bike. The Sortie is so capable descending that I was really wishing it had Fox's new 34 on it. It felt like the rear suspension was able to handle more than what the fork could so the addition of the 34 to me is the perfect upgrade for this bike.
    To see if my impressions of the bike were correct I did another 2 hour ride this morning and everything from the first ride was confirmed. I really, really like this bike. I think this bike with a 34 fork on it would be able to handle everything that the SC Tallboy LT can just a little slower because of it's weight. If I wasn't building up my dream bike in the SC Tallboy LTc this bike would definitely make it on my short list. I hope that helps those who are considering buying this bike. I think anyone who pulls the trigger on one will be very happy with their decision. If you have any questions feel free to ask and I will try my best to answer them.
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    We just got 2 demos in a 1.0 and a 2.0 and I have yet to take them out but they look awesome. Some of my co-workers have taken them out and their first impressions are that they are really stable and smooth. Only complaint is on the 1.0 it doesn't have the 12x142 rear or 15 front so it flexed a little.

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    I own a 2012 Sortie 1 29er and love it! I don't worry about flex or any like that, but the bike is fast and very fun to ride! Diamondback are not just a big box store bike, they make some serious highend equipment!
    I own a 2011 Mission 1 also, that bike is scary fast on downhills!!!

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    I have a Sortie 29er 3. Also have a 2011 Anthem X 29er 1. I love the Anthem because it's very light for a 29er but I find myself always wanting to ride the Sortie 29er 3, since I have a lot more fun with that one. It's awesome on climbs and it's just impressive on descends I just feel that I can throw whatever the trail gives and it won't break compared to always being a bit cautious with the Anthem thinking that a big bad jump might break it. I love both bikes very much but if I had to choose right now, I would go for the Sortie 3 since it's more of my riding style (I don't race) and I can't really notice the extra weight when riding.

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    Thanks for all of the replies, really sheds some light on this rig. How about sizing? How tall are you guys and what frame size are you on? Does the sizing feel right or small, large, etc?
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    I'm 5'10" , about 168 pounds. I use the Medium size frame and it fits me 100% perfect. The seat post is the perfect height as well, I use it all the way to the max length and it's just right for my sitting position.

    I was a bit skeptical at first, buying a $3500 bike with Diamondback brand due to people disliking the brand because they also sell lower end bikes I guess. But now I actually like the fact that the bikes is unique. I haven't seen another one anywhere around my city on all the trails I ride... and on the other hand, I see tons of Giant bikes

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    I'm very biased of course, but I rode a Sortie 29'r for the first time this weekend. It was actually my first time ever riding a 29'r and I was blown away at how fun the bike was. I was coming off a 2013 Mission and the Sortie 29'r was amazing. It was light, fast, and flew down the trails. I didn't think I would enjoy riding a 29'r at all (being a DH guy), but the bike was really fun. I can't wait to get one and put some more miles on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvp108 View Post
    Thanks for all of the replies, really sheds some light on this rig. How about sizing? How tall are you guys and what frame size are you on? Does the sizing feel right or small, large, etc?
    I'm 5' 9" and the medium was spot on for me as well. My LBS owner also ordered a large. He's 5' 10" and told me it was way too big for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLD80 View Post
    This short review is coming from someone who has a SC Tallboy LTc on order. I sold my Salsa Spearfish that I loved cause my riding tends to be pretty aggressive and the Spearfish just wasn't enough bike for what I wanted to do. My LBS owner is letting me ride is Sortie 29er 2 while I wait for my frame to come in. Right now I am under my usual fitness level so last Thursday when my brother and I decided we would do a 3 hour climb followed by an hour descent I was a little worried that my legs would blow up. Starting out on the Sortie I immediately felt comfortable on the bike. There wasn't anything weird at all about the fit. It just felt right. While we climbed I was really impressed with the efficiency of the Knuckle Box suspension design. I had tons of traction even on the steepest climbs and the bike seemed to just motor up everything. Now, it wasn't a peppy feeling bike on the climbs and I think the combination of a stout (read a little heavy) frame and my lack of fitness played major rolls in that feeling. That being said my brother was really surprised with how well I was climbing and honestly so was I. I give a lot of credit to the bike being natural and efficient. I couldn't detect any sort of flex while standing and pedaling so the bike felt plenty stiff. I don't know what the BB height is but I only had one pedal strike on a rocky section of the climb but on the descent I felt like I could rail the corners. Going down is where the bike is at home. The beefy frame was extremely stable and confidence inspiring. It's scary how fast you can get going on this bike and thankfully it's able to handle it all. There is one thing that I wished was different on the bike. The Sortie is so capable descending that I was really wishing it had Fox's new 34 on it. It felt like the rear suspension was able to handle more than what the fork could so the addition of the 34 to me is the perfect upgrade for this bike.
    To see if my impressions of the bike were correct I did another 2 hour ride this morning and everything from the first ride was confirmed. I really, really like this bike. I think this bike with a 34 fork on it would be able to handle everything that the SC Tallboy LT can just a little slower because of it's weight. If I wasn't building up my dream bike in the SC Tallboy LTc this bike would definitely make it on my short list. I hope that helps those who are considering buying this bike. I think anyone who pulls the trigger on one will be very happy with their decision. If you have any questions feel free to ask and I will try my best to answer them.
    Here are a few pics of my ride this morning
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerrreyes View Post
    I was a bit skeptical at first, buying a $3500 bike with Diamondback brand due to people disliking the brand because they also sell lower end bikes I guess.
    Why is this? I've read on many boards and heard many people on the trails and LBS's telling me "Don't buy a DB dude." I've also been told if I ever want to resell it after a year of use you'll get nothing for it. Why all the bad perception of their stuff? Seems they do make some high end stuff that no one can compete with on the price point they offer it at with the component level. The fact that they make some $300 bikes is what causes this? That is crazy if that is the case, and it makes no sense to me.

    I do agree that I have never seen this bike on the trail ever! I've seen a mission once but never this bike. Even though I bought the Tallboy I will take the chance to ride one of these if ever the opportunity presents itself. My assumptions about the bike seem to be exactly what I though based on what TLD80 wrote, in comparison to the SC Tallboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. 14 View Post
    Why is this? I've read on many boards and heard many people on the trails and LBS's telling me "Don't buy a DB dude." I've also been told if I ever want to resell it after a year of use you'll get nothing for it. Why all the bad perception of their stuff? Seems they do make some high end stuff that no one can compete with on the price point they offer it at with the component level. The fact that they make some $300 bikes is what causes this? That is crazy if that is the case, and it makes no sense to me.

    I do agree that I have never seen this bike on the trail ever! I've seen a mission once but never this bike. Even though I bought the Tallboy I will take the chance to ride one of these if ever the opportunity presents itself. My assumptions about the bike seem to be exactly what I though based on what TLD80 wrote, in comparison to the SC Tallboy.
    I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head. I agree that it is pretty crazy. There is some credence to not getting as much back when you try to sell it though. I had a Felt Virtue that my LBS custom built for me that was really nice and when I went to sell it to buy my Spearfish I was a pretty disappointed with the lack of interest in it. It was a 26er though so I'm sure that played a big part. That being said, I think the more people that have the opportunity to ride the Sortie will discover for themselves that this bike is pretty dang sweet. The fact that it is a 29er should help with resell as well. Diamondback would do themselves a huge favor by getting this bike into as many reviewers hands as possible to get more exposure.

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    over-all size..

    one reason the sortie 29er is so much fun is when i place mine next to my mission 1, they are the same over-all size. both are large 21" frames however the the mission has 1 150mm fork compared to the 120mm on the sortie.
    switching back and forth from one to the other doesn't feel that much different!!!
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    I got out on a 16 mile ride on the sortie 29er today and I loved it! It climbed great, was really stable going dh, and I was still able to flick it around and jump it. This was my first time on a 29er and I am coming from a slacker more all mountain 26" bike that can be a little overkill for my regular trails but the sortie was way easier to climb and didn't hold me back on the downhills. I might be drinking the 29er kool-aid soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLD80 View Post
    Boise, Idaho.
    Which trails did you take it out on (the 2hr up 1 hr down) and the other ride (I'm in the Boise area also)? Contemplating this as my potential first 29er.

    I'd like to hear your feedback on the TB LTc when you get that as well. Looks incredible..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombin4X View Post
    Which trails did you take it out on (the 2hr up 1 hr down) and the other ride (I'm in the Boise area also)? Contemplating this as my potential first 29er.

    I'd like to hear your feedback on the TB LTc when you get that as well. Looks incredible..
    For the first ride I rode up Hard Guy and then took the fire road up to the exit of Mulholland (or however you spell it). Ended up coming straight back down the way I went up. Absolutely loved how the bike climbed but like I said the fork was a little overwhelmed coming down some of the chunkier stuff up near the tree line so if you pull the trigger, I would splurge and get the Fox 34.

    The second ride I just rode up Sidewinder over to Fat Tire Traverse and back down. Same impression as before but I felt a little more comfortable this time in the corners and was really impressed with how it cornered.

    I've borrowed the bike a couple more times and it just feels "right."

    On a side note, I was at Reed Cycles in Eagle and they told me that Raleigh (who own Diamond Back) are going to be rebranding the higher end bikes like the Sortie with the Raleigh name next year. If that is the case then maybe you can score a 2012 for a great price. Hope that helps.

    I was told my LTc should be here mid July. Ordered my Arch EX's laced to orange Industry9 hubs last Thursday. Can't freakin wait! I'll let you know how it goes when she's all built up. Cheers

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    Wow that's a lot of climbing. Mahalo is the trail you are referring to. Treat yourself and go down Dry Creek next time

    Good info on the Raleigh/DB stuff. Didn't know that.

    Definitely keep me in the loop on the TB LTc. Would dig seeing it.

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    We would have gone down Dry Creek but the water was really high from what we had been hearing. Should be perfect now though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLD80 View Post

    On a side note, I was at Reed Cycles in Eagle and they told me that Raleigh (who own Diamond Back) are going to be rebranding the higher end bikes like the Sortie with the Raleigh name next year. If that is the case then maybe you can score a 2012 for a great price. Hope that helps.

    I was told my LTc should be here mid July. Ordered my Arch EX's laced to orange Industry9 hubs last Thursday. Can't freakin wait! I'll let you know how it goes when she's all built up. Cheers
    Wow, so Raleigh is going to kill the Diamondback brand? I was under the impression that DB, which is owned by Raleigh now, operated in a separate place and designed their own bikes and technologies. That would kind of suck. Maybe Raleigh has combined them to operate under one house, therefore branding it all Raleigh. Who knows...

    Yeah, show the LTc!

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    Watch me fly...

    how far did i go??? LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLD80 View Post
    On a side note, I was at Reed Cycles in Eagle and they told me that Raleigh (who own Diamond Back) are going to be rebranding the higher end bikes like the Sortie with the Raleigh name next year. If that is the case then maybe you can score a 2012 for a great price. Hope that helps.
    Hey y'all -

    I am the Marketing Manager for Diamondback bikes and the information you got from Reed Cycles is not quite accurate.

    Diamondback's parent company is Raleigh America. That houses the Diamondback and Raleigh brands. Each is autonomous in day to day operations and is managed as a separate entity fully. We have different product, different distribution strategies and completely different missions (no pun intended).

    There is absolutely no truth to the rumor that DB is being consolidated into the Raleigh brand. DB is doing exceptionally well right now and that would make absolutely no sense. I believe that Raleigh is working on their own suspension technology but there is absolutely no truth to Diamondback going away.

    To also touch base on other posts in this thread regarding sales and distribution choices… I can see that there’s some misconception out there. Diamondback is actually a top 5 bike brand in the US unit wise. A good majority of this comes from the fact that we have great lasting relationships with a broad distribution network. From the Sports Retailer, to a large number if IBD’s – part of this is what makes our brand unique.

    The bike market is pretty well saturated by a few brands. Combine that with a shrinking IBD channel and you can see how distribution choices are critical. That is not to say that we swing one way more than another. We very much value all of our retail partners but also know that we need to be diversified in order to stay strong. Part of this multi-channel approach is what allows us to fund the investment in product and technology on a higher level and we know that we’re up against some strong competition – so we have no choice but to do it right the first time and make world class product at the top end. And like any large company, this halo technology trickles down and finds its way into more moderately priced bikes over time.

    Part of the reason many of you claim to have not seen a Sortie 29 on the trail yet is because we A.) sold out of the product, and B.) did not anticipate the sales that we saw this year. This is a good thing for us, but I can see how this ain’t to hot for the consumer and may lead to some of the confusion I am hearing above. Please know though that we have taken all of this into consideration and placed much larger orders for 2013. This should lead to you seeing many, many more of these bikes on the market this fall.

    All reviews for the Sortie 29 so far have been stellar. 29inches.com gave it one of the best bikes of the year and there are numerous others out there stoked on the ride.

    We too here at DB are anxious for the new bikes to arrive and will be launching our 2013 product in Park City, UT in less than a month so stay tuned.

    Cheers!

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    Thanks for the clarification. I think it is really cool that DB is aware of the discussions on the forum and chime in. 2013 should be a great year for DB as more Sortie 29ers are available and out on the trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLD80 View Post
    Thanks for the clarification. I think it is really cool that DB is aware of the discussions on the forum and chime in. 2013 should be a great year for DB as more Sortie 29ers are available and out on the trails.
    No worries. I am not on here as much as I shold be but peruse from time to time.

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    Thanks for the clarification Jon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckle Box View Post
    completely different missions (no pun intended).
    Ha, funny stuff, love it! Glad to hear DB will be there 4 life. Even though I bought a Tallboy and love Santa Cruz, I was a proud owner of a Overdrive Comp 2012 and still find myself looking over at DB to see whats next. Great stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckle Box View Post
    Hey y'all -

    I am the Marketing Manager for Diamondback bikes and the information you got from Reed Cycles is not quite accurate.

    Diamondback's parent company is Raleigh America. That houses the Diamondback and Raleigh brands. Each is autonomous in day to day operations and is managed as a separate entity fully. We have different product, different distribution strategies and completely different missions (no pun intended).

    There is absolutely no truth to the rumor that DB is being consolidated into the Raleigh brand. DB is doing exceptionally well right now and that would make absolutely no sense. I believe that Raleigh is working on their own suspension technology but there is absolutely no truth to Diamondback going away.

    To also touch base on other posts in this thread regarding sales and distribution choices… I can see that there’s some misconception out there. Diamondback is actually a top 5 bike brand in the US unit wise. A good majority of this comes from the fact that we have great lasting relationships with a broad distribution network. From the Sports Retailer, to a large number if IBD’s – part of this is what makes our brand unique.

    The bike market is pretty well saturated by a few brands. Combine that with a shrinking IBD channel and you can see how distribution choices are critical. That is not to say that we swing one way more than another. We very much value all of our retail partners but also know that we need to be diversified in order to stay strong. Part of this multi-channel approach is what allows us to fund the investment in product and technology on a higher level and we know that we’re up against some strong competition – so we have no choice but to do it right the first time and make world class product at the top end. And like any large company, this halo technology trickles down and finds its way into more moderately priced bikes over time.

    Part of the reason many of you claim to have not seen a Sortie 29 on the trail yet is because we A.) sold out of the product, and B.) did not anticipate the sales that we saw this year. This is a good thing for us, but I can see how this ain’t to hot for the consumer and may lead to some of the confusion I am hearing above. Please know though that we have taken all of this into consideration and placed much larger orders for 2013. This should lead to you seeing many, many more of these bikes on the market this fall.

    All reviews for the Sortie 29 so far have been stellar. 29inches.com gave it one of the best bikes of the year and there are numerous others out there stoked on the ride.

    We too here at DB are anxious for the new bikes to arrive and will be launching our 2013 product in Park City, UT in less than a month so stay tuned.

    Cheers!
    This is great news! Give us a Sortie 9er with a stock 2x10 set-up and I'll be first in line!
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    If I didn't just buy my Rush I would be all over one of these. Amazon has the sortie29 1 for $1993 shipped in my size. Looks to be spec'd out very well for that price range.

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    spent a few months here in nh on a decked out full xtr, easton 90 wheels and cockpit sortie 29 blackbox this spring. great bike on the up and down, but the big deal breaker for me was the unbelievably flex rear end. i'm 6' 165lb and i've never ridden a bike that was so flexy. you can grab the wheel and pull the thing a ton from side to side and can really feel it in the corners/off camber.

    chain stays are long as well. many companies now are offering 1/2-3/4" shorter chain stays on longer travel 29ers full sussys

    i'm a bike shop manager and have been for close to 20 years so i've thrown a leg over lots of bikes.

    the fit, spec, aesthetics, and suspension design are top notch, just tighten up the rear....a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    great bike on the up and down, but the big deal breaker for me was the unbelievably flex rear end. i'm 6' 165lb and i've never ridden a bike that was so flexy.
    I went back and read a review from Guitar Ted and he also comments about the rear flex. His thought was that the low seat stay design caused this. Was it really that bad for you? I'm considering this bike but don't want to deal with a flexy rear-end. I had a Voodoo Canzo and you could grab the rear wheel and watch the whole rear tri flex. Didn't work too well on our rugged AZ trails. Bummer to hear this about the Sortie 29!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycljunkie View Post
    I went back and read a review from Guitar Ted and he also comments about the rear flex. His thought was that the low seat stay design caused this. Was it really that bad for you? I'm considering this bike but don't want to deal with a flexy rear-end. I had a Voodoo Canzo and you could grab the rear wheel and watch the whole rear tri flex. Didn't work too well on our rugged AZ trails. Bummer to hear this about the Sortie 29!
    just so you know, i'm about the least nit picky, non bike techno geeky bike shop manager out there. it's a fvcking bike ferchristssake. but the sortie 29er is THE flexiest frame i've ever thrown a leg over. grabbing the rear wheel (easton 90 or some $hit) with very little effort i could pull the wheel what seemed like inches from side to side. you can really feel it while riding like the whole bike bending round corners and whatnot. and that's with a 142mm thru balony o jigger thing.

    if they could stiffen it up and shorten the chainstays by a half inch, i'd buy one.

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    I've been riding mine for 6 months now and love it. The rear flex's by hand but i don't notice it during the ride... I've added bronson tires, spec. command post and a XT crankset with ext bearings.

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    Well I'm glad to know I went with the Santa Cruz Tallboy C instead of this bike. I they look similar but the Tallboy with a 142X12 has no flex at all, very stiff bike. I was eyeing this bike for some time and still do from time to time.

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    New Ride

    I know this is the Diamondback forum but I had a few people ask me to post up pics of my Tallboy LTc once it was built up so I thought I would oblige. Only change coming is a dropper post after Interbike. I want to see what 2013 has in store before I pull the trigger on one. Here she is:
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    Last edited by TLD80; 08-20-2012 at 01:26 PM.

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    Wow that is a sick build it looks awesome!

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    Thanks ballboy! I absolutely love it. It's everything I was hoping for and then some.

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    Great look.

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    fgc

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    Quote Originally Posted by [_-_-_-_] View Post
    Great look.
    If this is directed at me, thank you. If not, my bad.

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    This is my 2012 Sortie 3... I have done a bunch of upgrades to make it almost a Sortie Black but for a less $$ The bike is just amazing!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerrreyes View Post
    This is my 2012 Sortie 3... I have done a bunch of upgrades to make it almost a Sortie Black but for a less $$ The bike is just amazing!!!!


    This is one SICK bike!!

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    This bike is a missile in downhill.... How climbs? Like a goat or like a dead?

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