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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Sylvain View Post
    I finally rode the bike today. I enjoyed it but I thought the ride was a bit harsh. Certainly some suspension tune-up to do. However I was wondering what shock do you use on your Dixon? I had a RS Monarch RC3 and thought it was really smooth on the Canfield One. The eye-to-eye is not the same so I cannot transfer the shock but would consider getting one to replace the RP2 XV. Any thoughts?
    If I'm not mistaken, only read this and not experienced, the ride of the Dixon is not set up to be butter-smooth. It's more of an efficiant setup, and might be why you feel it abit harsh. Your weight also should be considered. For me I think it's going to feel more smooth, but I'm over 200lbs.
    I'd consider getting the RP2 PUSHed to your liking. Sould be a better investment than a new shock.
    If you want to try the RS, the suspension tune for your CF probably wont be the same as the Dixon. Check what tune (A-E) you have on your Monarch, and check with Devinci to see how it would fit. They use Monarch on 2013 Carbon frames. Here is a chart over the different Monarch tunes: http://foto.mtb-forum.it/data//950/tune.jpg
    You'd probably need new mounting hardware as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilsern View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, only read this and not experienced, the ride of the Dixon is not set up to be butter-smooth. It's more of an efficiant setup, and might be why you feel it abit harsh. Your weight also should be considered. For me I think it's going to feel more smooth, but I'm over 200lbs.
    I'd consider getting the RP2 PUSHed to your liking. Sould be a better investment than a new shock.
    If you want to try the RS, the suspension tune for your CF probably wont be the same as the Dixon. Check what tune (A-E) you have on your Monarch, and check with Devinci to see how it would fit. They use Monarch on 2013 Carbon frames. Here is a chart over the different Monarch tunes: http://foto.mtb-forum.it/data//950/tune.jpg
    You'd probably need new mounting hardware as well.
    I emailed Devinci about what tune Monarch Plus they recommend for me at 170lb and they told me MM. I'm going to get a Monarch Plaus or a Vivid air.

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    Careful with the Monarch tune even with what Devinci recommends. I'm on the learning curve here with this shock which is on my 2011 Jamis Dakar B2. I have the MM tune, weigh 185lbs geared up and cannot get full travel from the shock even with 40% sag. I've lowered the internal IFP pressure to 200psi (200-300 per RS) and it rides better but still can't get the last 10mm of shock stroke. If you do a search you'll find plenty of talk about the firm setting of these shocks. A guy who has lots of experience with these told me he always orders the Monarch in a low tune and works from there. Not sure how this relates to the Monarch Plus or Vivid Air but food for thought.

    Dixon is a good efficient pedlar with other good #'s. Where's the 650B version?

    Scroll to the bottom of this link for the Dixon linkagedesign.blogspot.com.es/2010_08_01_archi ve.html - Translator
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    I purchased my Dixon from a Devinci employee. He was using a Monarch RT3 but he sold the bike with the stock RP2. When I inquired about the RT3 tuning, after my previous post, he told me it should be LL therefore low rebound and low compression tune. I checked the web and pictures of the new 2013 Carbon Dixon where the shock is visible seem to confirm the LL tune as the default.

    I have asked to purchased a Monarch RT3 in LL tune but my bike shop could not order one. They all seem to come in MM tune at the moment, at least in Canada from either Norco or Lambert. Therefore it would be an extra to have it modified for LL tune.

    I guess I'll stick with the RP2 until I can find a used RT3 already LL tuned.

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    Not sure you can even order a LL tune Monarch. They usually come LM (low compression, medium rebound). LL would seem to make some sense though since the other thing people have complained about the Monarch is the rebound being to slow even at the fastest setting.

    Would love to hear how the 2013 Dixon rides with that LL shock tune. Bet it's sweet.
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    Now according to that chart above my Jamis Dakar which has a rising rate design with a 200 x 50 shock and a leverage ratio of 2.56 (Jamis calls it 2.6) it would clearly fall in the "B" tune area. I presume that's M and what's on the bike now. To stiff IMO. Needs a LL or LM. I'd happily take a LL and since the bike is still under warranty and I've already had a bunch of discussions with Jamis about the issue I may ask for this. The chart makes no mention of a rebound setting either. Other riders with the same bike as mine have experienced the same travel issue including 1 test reviewer who was jumping the bike 3' to flat with 30% sag and couldn't get full travel. Jamis sent him a Fox shock.
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    What size rear tyre are most people using on this bike? I have a 2012 Dixon RC and the stock Kenda Nevegal 2.35 buzzes the stays when cornering. I trial fitted a Nobby Nic 2.35 which is an even tighter fit.
    Looks like I'll need to fit a 2.25 to get enough clearance, which seems a little wrong on a bike like this.

    So what size rear are you running, and does it rub on the stays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS220 View Post
    What size rear tyre are most people using on this bike? I have a 2012 Dixon RC and the stock Kenda Nevegal 2.35 buzzes the stays when cornering. I trial fitted a Nobby Nic 2.35 which is an even tighter fit.
    Looks like I'll need to fit a 2.25 to get enough clearance, which seems a little wrong on a bike like this.

    So what size rear are you running, and does it rub on the stays?

    I run a 2.35 Nevegal with no issues, and I run a fairly wide rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS220 View Post
    What size rear tyre are most people using on this bike? I have a 2012 Dixon RC and the stock Kenda Nevegal 2.35 buzzes the stays when cornering. I trial fitted a Nobby Nic 2.35 which is an even tighter fit.
    Looks like I'll need to fit a 2.25 to get enough clearance, which seems a little wrong on a bike like this.

    So what size rear are you running, and does it rub on the stays?
    That was my main complaint on the demo 2013 SL I rode and it had the stock Schwalbe Hans Dampf tires on it.

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    Anyone out there resprayed their Dixon? My 2011 Dixon's paint is looking worse for wear and is really the only poor part of this bike. I did want to just strip the paint and make it a "Raw" finish but apparently Devinci don't recommend this as the aluminium will corrode?

    So anyone out there have a custom colour?

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    Raw Dixon

    Went ahead and made my Dixon "Raw" anyway despite the advice to the contrary! I didn't want a polished look so went for the dull bare metal instead.



    Seems to be holding up ok, just awaiting a decal kit and a custom metal headbadge to finish it off.

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    Nice. Am thinking about doing the same to mine. Make sure you post more pics!

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    Anyone owned or used the dixons ancestor, the remix? trying to figure out which suspension to get for the front, but can't find anything definite on the matter and Devinci is somewhat slow in their replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegard View Post
    Anyone owned or used the dixons ancestor, the remix? trying to figure out which suspension to get for the front, but can't find anything definite on the matter and Devinci is somewhat slow in their replies.
    If you're looking for specific advice, then I can't help you as I have not ridden one. But they used to be sold with 130mm and 140mm forks. Check out this page, this is for 2010, the last year the Remix were sold: http://2010.devinci.com/bikes/category_3
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    Thanks, google didn't find that page when I searched

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    Anyone know off the top of their head what the Dixons rear shock eye to eye length is? I have a chance to try something new but am away from the bike so can't measure.

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    200mm/57mm, can't wait to finish my build, just need to order up my wheelset!

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    devinci dixon

    Bumping. Topic has dissapaired from Canadian bike forum :S

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    My new Dixon RX!

    Stock except for : Avid X0 chrome brakes, ODI Flight Control Handlebar (red), ODI Rogue grips, Cane Creek Angleset (-1 deg), MRP AMG chain guide, MRP 36 T Bling ring and Crank Brothers Mallet 3 Pedals!

    31 lbs as is!
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    devinci dixon

    Just wanted to post my friends newly buildt Dixon Carbon.

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    2012 Large
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    Hey guys, I need some help! I'm 6'3" with a 31" inseam. Do you think an XL is too big? I have a 21" GF Ferrous and love the bike. Long rides are so money while I can descend and drop just fine. The guy from the shop I bought from says it's right but.. I didn't ask him or think about it until after I bought it.

    I only need a Fox 34, Chromag carbon bars and a 70mm stem to finish the build. I just want to make sure it's the right frame!
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    I'm 6'2" with a 34" inseam and I'm riding a L (19.5) with a fair amount of seat post showing. I would say the xl would be ok, you'll still have enough standover, and you'll appreciate the slightly longer reach as you should be taller in the upper body than me. Congrat's on the purchase! they are a fun bike to ride!

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    Thanks SS! I'll post be sure to post a pic after I put the Dixon together. The last of the parts should get here on Wednesday... Then it's time to start wrenching!
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    Has anyone out there experienced frame vibration on the Dixon with the new Shimano brakes? I just fitted Shimano XT M785 and the rear causes terrible vibration throughout the frame. All possible causes have been ruled out (pads, alignment, disc, bleeding etc) but nothing works.

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    It's finished!!

    Well.. sort of, I still got to cut the rear brake cable down, bleed the brakes and cut the zip ties.

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    2012 Devinci Dixon XL

    Fox 34 Talus, Sram XX1 group, Sram XO Trail brakes, Stan's Flow Ex wheels with Hans Damf tires, CB Kronolog post and my old 636 DX pedals

    Chromag carbon bars, Lynx seat and Ranger 70 mm stem
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    Does anyone happen to know the shock mounting hardware specs for the Dixon? I'm about to order some RWC shock eye needle bearing kits to replace the stock bushings/reducers, but am unsure what mounting spans I need to order. Thanks.

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    Hey guys life got in the way but I finally have the funds to purchase a dixon. I'm looking pretty hard @ the Carbon RC.

    I currently rid a 19inch framed older BMC trail fox. I'm 6 foot w/ a 33-34 inch inseam would you recommend medium or large frame? Unfortunately no demos here in Phoenix for me to try out.

    Also is the fox 32 on this partic build that bad?

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    I Sarcazmo!

    I'm 5''10'' tall with a 32-33'' inseam and mine is a medium. Perfect fit! Both will fit for you. Personally I prefer smaller bikes.

    If you can go with a RX carbon. Fox talas 34 and reverb seat post!

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    Sarcazmo - I'm in the Phoenix area and have a large dixon, you can usually find me at South Mountain. If you wanted to do a fit test let me know.
    I pretty sure I'm the only dixon rider in the Phoenix area.

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    Re: devinci dixon

    Where did you purchase it from? I've been emailing an online dealer. The devinci website lists one dealer in Tucson but I haven't contacted them.

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    The Tucson dealer doesen't have anything in stock but he can special order you one.
    I got mine from Fanatik bike Co. I ordered it on a Sunday and had it in my hands by Wednesday. I totally recommend them.

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    I'm 6'1", 34" inseam and I'm on a large up here in Flagstaff AZ. Perfect fit with a 60mm, stem, thinking about going a little longer though.

    If you ever make it up here into cooler temperatures you can take it for a spin. Mine has a lyrik at 160mm, climbs and descends great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richiebankrupt View Post
    The Tucson dealer doesen't have anything in stock but he can special order you one.
    I got mine from Fanatik bike Co. I ordered it on a Sunday and had it in my hands by Wednesday. I totally recommend them.
    Hehe, thtas who I've been emailing! Sending you a pm.

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    Sarcazmo.. This is just my two cents. When I bought my frame I too was unsure of size. I asked everyone I could think of. LBS, friends, other riders, forums etc.. The best piece of advice I got was not go too small. You don't want to be over your handlebars. The bike won't handle right. You won't be able to shift your weight back if the frame is too small. I own XL Dixon (scroll up) and never rode a large so I couldn't tell if the advice was right. I ended up renting a large DH and hit the park. I owned a medium at the time. Jumping, steep rock faces and cornering felt much more in control. Drops and tight turns and ladders stayed the same.

    I don't know if this will matter to you but it really helped me. I was always told smaller bikes handle better.. easier to throw around. I'm not so sure anymore.
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    Howdy.

    This is such a simple question, but for the life of me I can't find the answer.

    What size seat clamp does the dixon have?

    Cheers, Grant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldog View Post
    Howdy.

    This is such a simple question, but for the life of me I can't find the answer.

    What size seat clamp does the dixon have?

    Cheers, Grant.
    Carbon or Alu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredo23 View Post
    Carbon or Alu?
    Sorry, alu.

    Cheers.

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    34.9 mm

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    this is my new bike!

    Frame Devinci Dixon Carbon M 145mm
    Shock Rockshox Monarch RT3 High Volume
    Fork Fox Talas 32 150mm tapered
    Headset Canecreek 40 Zero Stack
    Stem Easton Haven 55mm 31.8
    Handlebar Easton Haven Aluminium 711mm 31.8
    Grip ODI Flangless Longneck
    Front Brake Shimano XTR trail 180mm
    Rear Brake Shimano XTR trail 180mm
    Levers Shimano XTR trail
    Deraileur Sram XX1
    Shift lever Sram XX1 Trigger
    Casette Sram XX1 10-42t
    Chain Sram XX1
    Crank Sram XX1 Wide 170mm /w 44t
    Crankboots Raceface
    B.B Truvativ
    Pedals Nukeproof Proton
    Wheelset Mavic Crossmax ST
    Front Tire Schwalbe Nobby Nic 4X 2.25 tubeless
    Rear Tire Schwalbe Racing Ralph 4X 2.25 tubeless
    Saddle Specialized Rival 130
    Seatpost Gravity Dropper 4inch
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    Monarch air pressure.....?

    Hey peeps

    I've had a couple of shake down rides on my Dixon, but i still feel like i'm missing the mark on my rear shock.

    It's the Monarch that comes with the XP model. I'm currently running it at 185psi, rebound bang in the middle, not that either end of the spectrum seems to do anything though. It's an L/L tune.

    I'm around the 195-200lbs mark all geared up.

    No matter what pressure it pedals like crazy, but i just feel that there should be a bit more give in the other direction, slightly harsh on some larger hits.

    Any thoughts? What are others running?

    Keep in mind that i'm, looking to swap the shock out down the track, so i'm open to suggestions there too.

    Cheers, Grant.

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    Sounds like you need to try messing with the IFP (internal floating piston) pressure in the shock (or IFP piston height is set wrong to begin with). It's not difficult at all with the proper RS adapter. Sram even has a video on how to set it and it's a fairly wide range of pressure to play with. Adapter is cheap money also.

    Some reading here on the matter Monarch & IFP pressure change...

    Are you able to get full travel from the shock? If not and indeed you have a LL tune shock (rare and unavailable from RS aftermarket) try lowering the IFP pressure which should make it more supple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Sounds like you need to try messing with the IFP (internal floating piston) pressure in the shock (or IFP piston height is set wrong to begin with). It's not difficult at all with the proper RS adapter. Sram even has a video on how to set it and it's a fairly wide range of pressure to play with. Adapter is cheap money also.

    Some reading here on the matter Monarch & IFP pressure change...

    Are you able to get full travel from the shock? If not and indeed you have a LL tune shock (rare and unavailable from RS aftermarket) try lowering the IFP pressure which should make it more supple.
    Hey buddy

    Thanks for the reply.

    I think you're on the money in regards to the IFP pressure. I'm not getting full travel, so it looks like i may need to drop the pressure, or just upgrade the shock earlier than planned.

    Thanks.

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    I had the exact same problem with the Monarch on my 2011 Jamis Dakar B2. Unable to get full travel even with sag set to unreasonable levels. I lowered the IFP pressure which helped some but really what that bike needed I felt was a LL tune shock (stock was MM). My research is the Monarch's run very firm. In my case the shock leaked oil all over itself and Sram replaced it under warranty. I asked for a LL tune but they said that is custom tune only so they gave me a ML as I recall and upgraded the shock also to a higher level. Only rode the bike 1 time with the new shock before I sold it so no solid report on that outcome. Interesting that Divinci specs a LL tune. Definitely try lowering the IFP and I think you might get the results you want. Shock is decent.

    Now where the heck is that 650b Dixon???

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    I had the exact same problem with the Monarch on my 2011 Jamis Dakar B2. Unable to get full travel even with sag set to unreasonable levels. I lowered the IFP pressure which helped some but really what that bike needed I felt was a LL tune shock (stock was MM). My research is the Monarch's run very firm. In my case the shock leaked oil all over itself and Sram replaced it under warranty. I asked for a LL tune but they said that is custom tune only so they gave me a ML as I recall and upgraded the shock also to a higher level. Only rode the bike 1 time with the new shock before I sold it so no solid report on that outcome. Interesting that Divinci specs a LL tune. Definitely try lowering the IFP and I think you might get the results you want. Shock is decent.

    Now where the heck is that 650b Dixon???
    I'm just tracking down an air valve adapter now. Bit harder to get a hold of in Australia.

    I'm going to go straight to 200psi, and as far as I can see, as long as my main chamber pressure is less than the IFP, i shouldn't have any issues.

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    Shock hardware question.

    I swapped out my Monarch for a RP23, and transplanted the hardware from the Monarch into the new shock.

    Here's the problem, it's three piece RS hardware, and the main axle fits fine, but the two sleeve spacers aren't sitting snug between the rocker arms at the top and the frame mounts at the bottom.

    I want to get new hardware, prob Fox, but open to suggestions. Here's the problem, I don't believe that i'm taking accurate measurements for of the hardware. Can someone help me out?

    I'm currently getting 43mm(ish) across for the top mount and 20mm(ish) for the bottom. Neither of these sizes correlate with anything in the Fox catalogue.

    Can anyone help me out with a more accurate measurement?

    Cheers, Grant.

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    Spacing for the top is 42.2mm, and the bottom is 19.1mm.

    I was running the new Fox Polymer bushings on my Dixon but was having issues with it creaking/squeaking on the top bushing, and it would gradually loosen itself over a few rides (even when loctited). The old Fox DU bushing setup did not have this problem. I eventually replaced the top bushing/hardware with the RWC needle bearing setup, and left the Fox polymer bushings on the bottom. Haven't had a problem since, and this was months ago. I suggest this setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freerider View Post
    Spacing for the top is 42.2mm, and the bottom is 19.1mm.

    I was running the new Fox Polymer bushings on my Dixon but was having issues with it creaking/squeaking on the top bushing, and it would gradually loosen itself over a few rides (even when loctited). The old Fox DU bushing setup did not have this problem. I eventually replaced the top bushing/hardware with the RWC needle bearing setup, and left the Fox polymer bushings on the bottom. Haven't had a problem since, and this was months ago. I suggest this setup.
    Hey mate

    So, silly question.

    Were you able to find hardware that was the exact size down to the first decimal point?

    For the life of me, the closest i can find is 19mm and 42mm.

    Cheers.

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