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    New Fisticuff Monster X! Pics and review

    Just got my new frame and fork in last week and have had some solid time to ride it on the roads, MTB trails, and even race it in our pro/1/2 field.

    This bike rules for what it is. A do-it-all cyclocross inspired bike. Its not the lightest, stiffest, or fastest race bike. But it is very well balanced for a monster cross trail shredding, gravel road riding, and loaded commuting/touring machine. If you want a killer fast race bike, may want to look at other options.

    Out of the box, the finish was great. No flaws, well packaged, and the sparkle in the paint really glimmered more than it appears in the photos. I chose the graphite color, cuz its sexy. The frame and fork wont build the lightest steel bike in the world, but like a surly, they are designed for real world abuse.

    For monster cross lovers, such as myself, ill go through some tires that will and wont fit.
    As for the fork, you can fit a good sized tire in there.
    In the pics below you can see I am running a Mountain King 2.2 (gen 1) tubeless on a Roval Control SL rim (22mm internal width)
    This tire has a couple millimeters of clearance on either side, and measures 53mm knob to knob. But, this tire is a super low volume "53mm" measuring 48.5mm casing to casing.
    A Ikon 2.2(measures about 53.5) will not fit, as the casing is relatively large and tall. The very edges of the knobs will buzz once every rotation due to the tires natural wobble from the factory. You can probably get away with most 2.0s.

    As for the rear, I am running a Vee Rubber XCX 1.95. This tire measures about 48.5mm casing to casing, 49mm knob to knob. With my axle installed 65% of the way back in the track ends, I have a few millimeters on either side. I havent tried a ton of tires out back, but you wont be able to fit much more than that with the axle near the middle. If you slam the axle back, you may be able to fit something bigger... But not much.

    Point being, good sized tires will work. If you are looking for MTB phatties, may not be the frame for you. But 29x 1.9s/2.1s are definitely in the Monster cross category IMO. That size tire meshes well with the type of bike too. Fast rolling on the road, and more than sufficient for a drop barred geometry singletrack-plowing machine.

    Ride quality, this bike is perfect for gravel, loaded road, and monster cross. Its not the stiffest bike on the market, but no where near as flexy as some other steel bikes on the market I have ridden. The ride is actually perfect for singletrack and gravel. It really smooths out the rough stuff while being stiff enough to pedal hard and shred corners.

    As for my build, I chose to KISS it with a 1x10. (keep it simple stupid)
    I used a Wolf tooth 130bcd, 38t ring
    Sram X0 type 2 clutch derailleur
    Sram force shifters (left hand gutted)
    Sram force cranks
    XX cassette 11-32t
    Roval Control SL wheels (from my MTB race bike)
    TRP HYRD brakes(jury is still out... but better than BB7s)
    Salsa Cowbell bars
    King Ti cage (only way to ride)

    And lasty, PICS!



    I found a bamboo forrest in the middle of atlanta. Weird.



    I dare you to ride that chunk on a normal CX bike.







    Due to the government shutdown, the sun hadnt come out for days when this picture was taken.



    Loaded commuting duty. 38x11 was spun out a lot, but this frame handles rough city streets much better than my Cervelo S1 road bike.



    SPAMforce SS shifter. U JELLY?



    Finishing Mid-pack in out local pro/1/2 series. If you are gonna be pack fodder, be pack fodder with style!!! Props to Travis Neumuller for this rad photo.
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    awesome pic

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    How is that rear tire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilarider View Post
    How is that rear tire?
    The tire is very fast rolling.
    Climbing grip is sufficient.
    Cornering grip is not very good...

    The casing set up well tubeless and seem durible enough to ride rocky single track.

    Oh yeah, it's like $30!
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    I like it a lot! The parts spec makes sense, except for the XX cassette...just happen to have one laying around for some reason?

    I have a similar type bike, but with more clearance for 2.4s. The extra volume is nice, but I could live with 2.0s if I had to - it would just restrict my speed on technical descents and maybe not ride certain rocky trails. On the flip side, I did D2R2 on 2.4 racing ralphs this year, and it was sloooow.

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    Nice ride and bunny hopping skills! Is your bar tape on inside out?

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    Any chance you could post a pic of the underside of the BB area showing chainstay clearance to the tires and chainrings (with that Vee rubber tire mounted)?

    I'm thinking of monstercross but with 650b wheels. Would this help at all with the clearance of the rear tire?

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    New Fisticuff Monster X! Pics and review

    Overkill, the xx cassette was already on my race wheels, and was a good range for MTB trail.

    Rroeder, thanks!
    Bar wrap is s-wrap cork. Pretty good tape, but has that funky stripe that really highlights your flaws in the wrap.
    Not my favorite to wrap for customers, but its good on my bike!

    KMCGcrew,
    Here ya go
    New Fisticuff Monster X! Pics and review-imageuploadedbytapatalk1382669688.881065.jpg
    Not a lot of clearance, Clarence. But the seat stays have a ton of room...
    With a 650 wheel, you may be able to cram in some larger tires... Note the crimped section, half an inch from the widest part of the tire.
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    Thanks for the pic - the helps a lot. Looks like decent clearance to me as I generally avoid riding in much mud. I see that Vee Rubber makes the 650B version of that same tire. I would like to get a Quasi-Moto in there which measures out around 52mm. Since you have the horizontal fork ends you could line up the widest part of the tire with the widest area between the chainstays - pretty convenient.

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    Killer bike!

    Where in Atlanta is that bamboo forest? Sope Creek?
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    Me likey.
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    New Fisticuff Monster X! Pics and review

    Quote Originally Posted by heartland View Post
    Killer bike!

    Where in Atlanta is that bamboo forest? Sope Creek?
    Close but not cigar!
    It's located off the hooch, between whitewater creek and rays on the river.
    its right off the river and way closer to rays on the river restaurant.
    Technically, its a foot only trail, but since the government was shutdown, rules don't apply.

    If you are feeling frisky, ride your mountain bike down the 2 descents coming from Indian trail to the river.
    One is super tech, the other is super fast and flowy. Both are STEEP and FUN.
    Again, it's off limits to bikes, so don't go on the weekend.
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    650b monster

    Quote Originally Posted by kmmcgrew View Post
    Thanks for the pic - the helps a lot. Looks like decent clearance to me as I generally avoid riding in much mud. I see that Vee Rubber makes the 650B version of that same tire. I would like to get a Quasi-Moto in there which measures out around 52mm. Since you have the horizontal fork ends you could line up the widest part of the tire with the widest area between the chainstays - pretty convenient.
    Hey, I'll be doing the same soon (650b) and hope you post your finished product.

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    Heck of a nice bunny hop

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    Any idea how much that sweet bike weighs? I know this style of bike is not for weight weenies, but I'm still curious.

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    What size bike sheepo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aevanlloyd View Post
    Any idea how much that sweet bike weighs? I know this style of bike is not for weight weenies, but I'm still curious.
    I have not weighed the frame only. Set up singlespeed, it was about 20-21 pounds. Not light, but not heavy for its type of bike.

    I would assume this bike weighs about the same as the equivalent surly.

    The versatility is what I love about it.
    Its set up now singlespeed in commuter duty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by damian777 View Post
    What size bike sheepo?
    This is a size Large. 570 seat tube, 566 top tube. Im 5'11''-6' and it fits me great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post



    Awesome!

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