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    Moots Psychlo X or Niner RLT - seems easy right?

    On paper, this one seems like a no brainer. I am looking for a bike that could work great for an 18 mile commute, where half of it is a gravel forest service road and the other half is pavement. On days where I've got extra time, I can choose to either take a longer paved route or killer buff single track for 25 miles home. I may race one or two cross races a year but I'd rather buy a bike that is great at exploring forest service roads and hours in the saddle because that is what 98% of the riding will be. If it is ok at cross, that's good.

    The 2 bikes I am looking at are the Moots Psychlo X or the Niner RLT. If I ended up going with the Moots, I would probably sell my road bike and get a second wheelset with slicks to swap out for road rides. Price is a factor, but Moots is a dream bike and I have an opportunity to get one so I may splurge.

    That being said, I've been looking at the Niner RLT as well. It also looks like a great option for my needs.

    Anyone want to chime in?

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    Go with your dream and get the Moots. It is a dream I have myself.

    I would also suggest Seven Cycles as long as you are dreaming.
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    Ti over Al? I think your body will prefer the damped feel of Ti in the long haul. I don't know how good modern aluminum is these days (I ride OX Platinum steel on my CX) but I have a hard time believing it comes close to the feel of Ti (I used to have a Ti hard-tail before the days of carbon FS rigs).

    I say if you have the means go with the moots but make you get the 450 chainstay option so you can have tires larger than 34 mm. The 450 allows tires up to 40mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmazz View Post
    I may race one or two cross races a year but I'd rather buy a bike that is great at exploring forest service roads and hours in the saddle because that is what 98% of the riding will be. If it is ok at cross, that's good.
    I'm sure the niner is a great bike but this screams steel or ti.
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    Both would be fine bikes.

    That said, I would buy a couple of less-costly (steel) bikes designed for different types of riding/terrain.
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    The Moots is a dream bike. I would love to own one someday. Have you considered a Salsa Warbird Ti? I like the Niner,but don't want another aluminum bike.

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    Like I've posted in another thread, an aluminum bike will beat the hell out of you. I've ridden " modern aluminum" on the road and on 5"+ travel mountain bikes! with 5" travel, it's an excellent choice( although I own carbon) on the road, it's better than it used to be but for anything bumpy, ie; fire roads, gravel and single track, I believe aluminum to be a bad choice, unless your just going to use it as a race bike or commuter.
    Titanium on the other hand is awesome, used to own a couple of Merlin's, great ride feel and comfortable, I wish I never sold them.

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    The Moots is a Moots, right, whereas the Niner is a pretty standard aluminum-framed cross bike, as far as I can tell. If you are looking at aluminum cross bikes Cannondale might have some really refined frames, as well as any number of other manufacturers... Steel might also serve you well, like Ritchey, Curtlo or Jim Kish for example.

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    Anyone want to chime in?

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    I don't know how you can compare Moots with Niner.

    Moots is at the other level compare to Niner.

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    Hmmm....

    I might offer two scenarios.

    Scenario 1: This isn't a legitimate question, as no one would sincerely compare a made in China, stock aluminum bike to a US-made titanium Moots.

    Scenario 2: You've taken a nasty fall and you've really bumped your noggin something fierce.

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    I splurged... got the Moots. Super psyched!

    Commuted on it yesterday which consists of 20 miles each way with about 10 of the miles being a gravel forest service road. Loved every second of it.

    Thanks for all of the comments.

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    Moots Psychlo X or Niner RLT - seems easy right?

    You've got the dream bike and a dream commute. Well played...

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    Moots Psychlo X or Niner RLT - seems easy right?

    I think that was the only sensible outcome with all things considered.

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    Moots Psychlo X or Niner RLT - seems easy right?

    Let's see some pics!


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    Quote Originally Posted by vmazz View Post
    I splurged... got the Moots. Super psyched!

    Commuted on it yesterday which consists of 20 miles each way with about 10 of the miles being a gravel forest service road. Loved every second of it.

    Thanks for all of the comments.
    Excellent, now, there is only one scenario. Ride the hell outta that bike.

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    Sweet

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmazz View Post
    I splurged... got the Moots. Super psyched!
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    Moots Psychlo X or Niner RLT - seems easy right?

    Seriously...where are the pics?!


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    Pics+Story

    Sorry. Here's a pic.

    Long story short... the bike went back. When I picked it up, I was told it was a 2013 model in a 57.5. After a couple of rides, I realized it felt small so I emailed the frame serial # to Moots to get the details on it (should have done that in the first place). Turns out it's a size 56.5 and a 2008 model! Needless to say, I was not stoked.


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    For the amount of $$$ you spent @ least the frame could have post disc tabs

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrm View Post
    For the amount of $$$ you spent @ least the frame could have post disc tabs
    Agreed... though, not sure if you saw my response above that the frame turned out to be from 2008. Not many cross bikes in '08 had disc.

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    Nice bike, too bad it wasn't what you expected. Disc tabs on Moots GG bike is high on the desirability list, that's for sure. Add a YBB to the frame, and yowza powza.

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    So are getting a new 2014 frame?

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    Bummer. For the coin you are considering, a custom steel bike might fit all your needs.
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