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    Any interest in Gravel Grinders?

    Enough for its own sub forum?

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    Did my first one 9 days ago. I'm hooked. Most fun I've had on a bike in some time.

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    Anybody see this? Looks new - haven't heard of it before. Front Range Gravel

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    Gee this look really similar to a poll i ran on the same topic a moth or 2 ago, and get little to no responce.

    I really hope we get a better result this time, particually after all the gravel grinder bikes displayed and eurobike and interbike, pushing this into the front of peoples thoughts
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    Re: Any interest in Gravel Grinders?

    I don't have a ton of interest but agree that it should be it's own sub forum
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    There are a ton of gravel grinders or adventure bikes coming out from every major bike company. This concept has really taken hold of the public. I really would love to see it's own subforum.
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    If there can be a "29er Component" subforum to discuss such 29er-specific things as tubeless tire brew and flat pedals (just to pick the two most recent threads as I type this), than I'm sure there's no reason to deny a "Gravel Grinder" subforum. Hell, add a "Gravel Grinder Component" subforum while you're at it.
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    Any interest in Gravel Grinders?

    Sign me up.

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    Some of the most fun I have had in recent years have been gravel grinders...generally a good mix of competitiveness if you want it and a lot of decent attitudes.

    Texas has developed a solid seen with groups like Spinistry coordinating several each year.

    Also a nice way to use the cross bike more throughout the year.

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    Hell, yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by john.b View Post
    Hell, yes!
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    I spend more time on RBR but came here today hoping there was a "gravel grinder" forum.

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    Heck yeah. Bring it, please!

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    Here's a stupid question: What exactly is a gravel grinder?

    Sound to me like a bike that is or can be ridden on gravel roads.

    Isn't that pretty much ANYTHING other than a full on road bike on skinny slicks?

    I can ride my MTB, my cross bike, a fatbike, a hybrid, ect. on gravel.

    Why do I keep hearing this term, and what makes that activity, or the bikes used to do so, special?

    Or is this just a matter of the sport trying to segment itself into smaller very specific genres they way MTB did with Trail, DH, AM, XC, etc. I STILL don't get the distinctions there, you ask me, there are two MTB categories: XC and DH. Maybe I'm just old skool like that.

    Are we going to be seeing "Bike Path Bombers" and "Sidewalk Streakers" next?
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    Only if someone will explain to me the difference between a gravel grinder and monstercross. Is it a tire change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post
    Here's a stupid question: What exactly is a gravel grinder?

    Sound to me like a bike that is or can be ridden on gravel roads.

    Isn't that pretty much ANYTHING other than a full on road bike on skinny slicks?

    I can ride my MTB, my cross bike, a fatbike, a hybrid, ect. on gravel.

    Why do I keep hearing this term, and what makes that activity, or the bikes used to do so, special?

    Or is this just a matter of the sport trying to segment itself into smaller very specific genres they way MTB did with Trail, DH, AM, XC, etc. I STILL don't get the distinctions there, you ask me, there are two MTB categories: XC and DH. Maybe I'm just old skool like that.

    Are we going to be seeing "Bike Path Bombers" and "Sidewalk Streakers" next?
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    Only if someone will explain to me the difference between a gravel grinder and monstercross. Is it a tire change?



    Of course Monstercross fits.

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    Monster cross = fatties on a cross bike. Gravel grinders tend towards all day geo, lower bb, longer wheelbase ect. At least that's my take on it.
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    Getting very hard to resist clicking "buy now".


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    Looks nice, other than the down tube run cables. And where are the gears?? LOL
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    I like the concept of gravel grinders. More options is always better for the consumer.

    Ill continue doing gravel rides on my CX, until I finally get a custom steel "all roads" bike to replace my Road and CX bike.
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    I like the idea of a gravel grinder subforum for several reasons. First reason is that gravel grinders are now their own category of races (with some pretty big races-Barry Roubaix, Dirty Kanza, etc.) Second, I find that many riders (myself included) ride the majority of their miles on gravel. I am probably 65% gravel, 35% singletrack. I live on a gravel road and am fortunate to have miles of gravel at my disposal.

    I think the desire to have a separate form stems from the desire to find the 'perfect' bike for this type of riding. For some, it will be a bike built around all day comfort. For others, it will be a bike designed to hammer out a gravel 'crit'.

    I find it enjoyable to read about others' 'perfect' gravel set up. It has also helped me in the evolution of my gravel bike. I am riding a disc brake cyclocross bike, but the components and fit have been focused on gravel riding alone. I do not race cross (not that i have anything agains cross, just haven't tried it.)

    I also like the fact that you can ride gravel on any bike. I ride gravel on my fat bike, mountain bike and cyclocross bike. All of the rides are enjoyable, in different ways.

    Bring on the Gravel Forum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
    Getting very hard to resist clicking "buy now".


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    Whats the position of the EBB in the 72* STA measurement? I prefer a steeper angle and longer TT, but if the measurement was taken with the BB at 3 o'clock, the frame may work at 9 o'clock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    Whats the position of the EBB in the 72* STA measurement? I prefer a steeper angle and longer TT, but if the measurement was taken with the BB at 3 o'clock, the frame may work at 9 o'clock.


    Honestly, do not know the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
    Honestly, do not know the answer.
    Hmm. Well, its a sweet frame. Im on deck to get a new gen vassago fisticuff. Itll clear 48mms instead of 50s, but the geo looks better for me.
    And that graphite color is the tits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    Hmm. Well, its a sweet frame. Im on deck to get a new gen vassago fisticuff. Itll clear 48mms instead of 50s, but the geo looks better for me.
    And that graphite color is the tits.
    Gotta brag.
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    Gonna be sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    Gotta brag.
    Gonna ride it 1x10. Wolf tooth ring, X0 type 2 derailleur, force shifter, TRP HYRD hydro brakes, Alpha 400 rims on American Classic hubs, and Kenda Karma 1.9s.

    Gonna be sweet.



    Yeah, I like the Vassago but the track dropouts are a deal breaker for me. Your build sounds great , get some pics up when she's done.

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    Re: Any interest in Gravel Grinders?

    Every bike can be a gravel bike.

    Looking forward to demo'ing a Volagi Viaje.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    Gotta brag.
    Gonna ride it 1x10. Wolf tooth ring, X0 type 2 derailleur, force shifter, TRP HYRD hydro brakes, Alpha 400 rims on American Classic hubs, and Kenda Karma 1.9s.

    Gonna be sweet.
    I think you'll be quite happy with that setup - I'm running something very similar on my Crux and it has performed awesome.

    I'm running a 40t wolf ring on an sram red exogram crank, force rear shifter and a sram brake only front lever, TRP HYRD brakes with ashima 140mm rotors, force wifli RD. I have a few selections of wheels that fit - 650b 42mm hetres, clement LAS on stans arch rims tubeless, carbon tubular 'cross wheels for racing....

    I bought an xo type 2 RD assuming I'd have problems with the force RD, but with over 1,000km and 2 cx races, I have not had a chain drop. So...it's sitting brand new in a box when I need it for another project.

    Nice build - post pics when you're done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
    Getting very hard to resist clicking "buy now".


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    Is that a 26" mtb with drop bars? Something looks really off/odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSJ1973 View Post
    Is that a 26" mtb with drop bars? Something looks really off/odd.


    700c/29er, has room for 50mm 29er tires.

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    I have 2 bikes with the exact same measured by me geometry:
    2013 Salsa Colossal
    2013 All City Nature Boy

    Only difference is tapered HT(salsa roadie) and tire clearance(Nature Boy).

    I suppose for a do-it-all machine, a geared more tire clearance ride would do it but I like the variety. Eh.....
    Odd thing is, my 1973 Koko sport roadie had the same clearance AND geo to GG. So everything old is new again? Or maybe new isn't that new afterall. I have been riding gravel roads on a SS since I was 12. But it was called a Huffy kid's bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakedbabytoes View Post
    I have 2 bikes with the exact same measured by me geometry:
    2013 Salsa Colossal
    2013 All City Nature Boy

    Only difference is tapered HT(salsa roadie) and tire clearance(Nature Boy).

    I suppose for a do-it-all machine, a geared more tire clearance ride would do it but I like the variety. Eh.....
    Odd thing is, my 1973 Koko sport roadie had the same clearance AND geo to GG. So everything old is new again? Or maybe new isn't that new afterall. I have been riding gravel roads on a SS since I was 12. But it was called a Huffy kid's bike.
    There is nothing new in geometry or sizing in bikes over the past century. The human body has not changed, riders still prefer the conventional ride position. Seat tube angles are generally 73degrees or thereabouts, and head angles are the only variable. Other than a few minor tweaks, bikes have not changed at all in the essentials. What has changed is how they are presented to you the purchaser. The latest Giant pictured here displays contempary themes - dropped seat stays, slopping top-tube, over-sized downtube, long seat stem, etc. Draw some lines through the tube centers and measure it up and it falls into conventions long established.

    I view the distinction between Gravel and CX as being more the area where a level vrs sloping TT having merit, we don't need to shoulder a bike, perhaps a slacker Head tube angle for greater stability being pretty much the major areas of concern, otherwise its style and function.

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    Been following the new "Front Range Gravel" and they just added a Gravel Forum and have had some good comments, some by Guitar Ted himself. Gravel Riding Forum

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    So...you had your poll.
    Where's the new forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    So...you had your poll.
    Where's the new forum?



    The poll is still open and I would expect that actually getting a new sub forum is going to take a bit of time. Good to see interest in one though, may be a good indicator.

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    I, for one, welcome our new, gravel-riding overlords.
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    Just rename the 29r forum, that's what most people ride anyway.

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    Throw away your Gravel Grinder, the next trend is Path Slammers. It's a bike with geometry specifically designed for slamming bike paths!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzler View Post
    It's a bike with geometry specifically designed for slamming bike paths!
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post
    Here's a stupid question: What exactly is a gravel grinder?

    Sound to me like a bike that is or can be ridden on gravel roads.

    Isn't that pretty much ANYTHING other than a full on road bike on skinny slicks?
    For some reason, this blog is not pulling up, but

    Chris Kostman's Rough Riders Blog: Any Bike, Anywhere / Classic Cyclist

    These guys (Rough Riders) ride road, gravel, whatever on skinny slicks.

    I don't really care for a specific gravel grinder subforum. I have a GG/CX bike and the info in the CX forum would be redundant with a GG forum. You could just rename it CX/GG forum.

    From bikesnob:

    Bike Snob NYC: Bikes: The Less Things Change, The More They Stay The Same

    It really must be hard to sit around a room figuring out how to tweak a certain type of bike just enough so that people think they need them, but not enough that the tweaks make any real difference. It must be even harder to shop in a bike store these days:

    Customer: "Ooh, that's nice. Is it a cyclocross bike?"

    Salesperson: "No, it's a gravel bike."

    Customer: "What's a gravel bike?"

    Salesperson: "Well, it's like a road bike, but it's got more tire clearance and a more stable geometry."

    Customer: "Like a cyclocross bike."

    Salesperson: "Well, kind of, but it's a gravel bike. Remember Brick Tamland from 'Anchorman?' 'I love lamp.' Hilarious!"

    Customer: "Right. So can you do a cyclocross race with it?"

    Salesperson: "Well, it's a good option for someone wanting to experiment in cyclocross racing, but once you actually start cyclocross racing you're going to need an actual cyclocross bike. For that you'll want the 'Fantana.' Remember 'Sex Panther?' Hilarious!"

    Customer: "Right. So what's the difference between experimenting in cyclocross racing and cyclocross racing?"

    Salesperson: "A skinsuit and buying another bike you don't need."

    Customer: "**** this, I'm leasing a Hyundai."

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    5 days till the poll closes.

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    Been following the Riding Gravel Forum and it's seems that a lot of good stuff has been organized and discussed over there already: Riding Gravel Forum .

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    Talk of gravel grinding has always been in the CC forum so why not just keep it that way rather than subdividing another niche.

    Of the gravel grinds I've been on, most bikes have been cross bikes with the odd mountain bike or masochist on a road bike with shoehorned street tires.

    Gravel grinders and cyclocross bikes are not far enough apart to warrant an entirely new subforum. Hell the DJ/Urban/Park forum has more variety than the riding conditions we're debating here between gravel riding and cross racing, yet they're lumped together as one forum.

    Is there enough new traffic to warrant splitting the forum up or is this just something the mods are pushing on us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTscoob View Post

    Is there enough new traffic to warrant splitting the forum up or is this just something the mods are pushing on us?




    The Mods have nothing to do with floating this idea.

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    I'm with it against the whole marketing BS. That being said, I really want to do one of these races though, the Trans Iowa seems so masochistically brilliant I cannot resist.

    Although, you think they'd let me enter on a cross bike!?

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    Interested in the events, yes. Interested in a new sub-forum, no. I think there would be too much overlap between both CX and Endurance. That said, either way is fine with me.

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    Poll closes today. Thanks to all for your thoughtful responses.

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