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    Quote Originally Posted by jp3d
    I guess it really come down to whether you want to be able to climb in the saddle, or out of the saddle / push.
    Exactly. This is a Downieville bike. Need the extra gearing for getting the bike up and over the few steeps.

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    Gotcha on the 2x9 setup. I ditched mine front mech and was fine. Lost some weight, simplified it... worked for me where I ride.

    Well, Blitz II is a damn fine looking bike. Best looking in its class right now IMO. Sounds like a real fun bike to ride too.

    I'm looking at the Bottlerocket. Waiting to see if it works out... If not the Blitz is on deck.

    Maybe I'll get them both (ha)

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    Blitz Build

    Finished up the Blitz build today. The Avid front brake needed a post-mount adaptor. And I needed more Flak Jacket for the front derailler shifter.

    Final weight: 40.43 pounds.

    After these photos, I shortened the chain. Removed the shock and compressed the suspension. Chain growth was minimal. Also, the tire hits the seat stay with several inches of seat clearance. So no seat scrub.

    However, I did find that the seat post clamp lever hits the linkage. In fact, it cut a nice little notch in the rocker arm. Not sure if this will be a problem in normal usage. But it will suck if it occurs for big drops and jumps.

    After I got the chain and shifting squared away, I set up the shock. This is my first DHX Air, so I used the set up guide for the Santa Cruz Nomad with DHX Air, and then toned down the rebound.

    Let me tell you. This bike rocks! It's snappy off the line, has tons of stability, and rolls better than any bike I've had. The transmission is incredible. The suspension feels rock solid.

    More pictures if anyone's interested:

    > http://www.pacificafreeride.com/copp...s.php?album=52

    My large Blitz will come in this week, and I'll start building it up. Gonna go with a similar build, but no front derailler. Probably get DT Swiss FR rims and Hadley hubs. Regular Stylo cranks. Looking for a 39+ pound bike.

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    yes, i agree. bottlerocket is the ****. i would never buy a versus, only witha gun to my head would i buy one, then i would not ride it. I would go order a session 77, or a session 10, especially for norcal riding, since the mini pivots on the versus are maybe a cool fad now, but they cant to **** 1 year down the road. why go small on pivots, that dont make sense.
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    now thats wicked!...can't wait to see your build

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    Quote Originally Posted by levee67
    However, I did find that the seat post clamp lever hits the linkage. In fact, it cut a nice little notch in the rocker arm. Not sure if this will be a problem in normal usage. But it will suck if it occurs for big drops and jumps.
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    Turn your seat post clamp around 180, the seat stay cutout & the post clamp opening should line up. Your backwards bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Turn your seat post clamp around 180, the seat stay cutout & the post clamp opening should line up. Your backwards bro.
    Heh, thanks. Actually, it's turned around on purpose. Clamp hits the rocker when suspension is maxed out. Turn it around, there's a little less clamp. Like I wrote, clamp already left a nick in the metal.

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    Hi dblackfly,

    how does your Blitz climb? (It looks awesome...) Any pedal bobbing? I'm looking for a burly AM frame with more climbing abililty than a pure FR rig. Is it in the same category like RFX/Nomad/6.6?

    Thanx

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    Quote Originally Posted by razor67
    Hi dblackfly,

    how does your Blitz climb? (It looks awesome...) Any pedal bobbing? I'm looking for a burly AM frame with more climbing abililty than a pure FR rig. Is it in the same category like RFX/Nomad/6.6?

    Thanx
    I think we can say that the Blitz II is closer to a slopestyle frame than it is AM. Its a bit slacker, a lot beefier and a good bit heavier than the more AM bikes you mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by levee67
    Heh, thanks. Actually, it's turned around on purpose. Clamp hits the rocker when suspension is maxed out. Turn it around, there's a little less clamp. Like I wrote, clamp already left a nick in the metal.

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    Ya i read every thing wasnt aware that is why the clamp is backward. Have you talked to Herb or Vivian about this

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    Why don't Versus got their own thread? Anyway.

    I'm pretty sure Herb knows about the post collar problem. One of the Versus riders told me to turn it around.

    I thought about getting one of those seat post dropper things. Do away with the whole post clamp problem.

    However, the seat post dropper with the rubber accordian thing is dumb, and the Maverick seems way to involved. I seem to remember seeing a two-piece seat post (Truvativ?) on some bike in one of the magazines. I'm going to give that a look.

    I only need a few inches for riding up the hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobsterCraw
    I think we can say that the Blitz II is closer to a slopestyle frame than it is AM. Its a bit slacker, a lot beefier and a good bit heavier than the more AM bikes you mentioned.
    Yeah, it's a burly bike. Though I heard that Herb built up a sub-35 pound Blitz 2. But that's gotta be cutting some corners.

    I wanted a 7 inch, kick-ass bike that was 5-10 pounds less than my DH bike.

    Other than the Transition Dirtbag and maybe the new Specialized, there ain't no company making em. And I *did not* want another single pivot.

    I went with Versus intead of Transition because I've ridden the Blitz, and the linkage/suspension was freaking rock solid. I bet the Tranny is almost as good. But they ain't local.

    Once my Blitz is built, I'm gonna let my v-10 take a rest, and I'm gonna rip the Blitz to pieces.

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    Have you called & talked to herb about this It could be the post clamp you are using does not work with the Blitz but the clamps Versus has used for development did not have this problem. Input is a great thing & if there is a problem im shure they would really like to know so they can resolve this issue.

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    The other thing people forget is that not all weight is created equal. The biggest weight concern is always the rotating weight because that is where your bike can really start to feel sluggish. The second most important part of the weight equation is at the ends of the bike, basically where is the bike's center of balance and what kind of effort does it take to flick the bike around. Frame weight is pretty insignificant. I'd rather have a burly AM frame thats good for shuttling and general abuse than boutique 30lbs bike that gets torn up in the back of a truck or when I crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
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    However, I did find that the seat post clamp lever hits the linkage. In fact, it cut a nice little notch in the rocker arm. Not sure if this will be a problem in normal usage. But it will suck if it occurs for big drops and jumps.
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    Turn your seat post clamp around 180, the seat stay cutout & the post clamp opening should line up. Your backwards bro. Turn your seat post clamp around 180, the seat stay cutout & the post clamp opening should line up. Your backwards bro.
    Yup mine too have a nice little notch on the rocker arm. Once my thigh got a pinch between it..... else it is a great bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by dblackfly
    Yup mine too have a nice little notch on the rocker arm. Once my thigh got a pinch between it..... else it is a great bike

    Hey db, did you ever get an exact weight of your build yet? Sick build

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidsystm
    Hey db, did you ever get an exact weight of your build yet? Sick build
    hmmm sorry did not really get to weigh my ride. I estimate it to be around 35 to 37 lbs
    maybe..... even if it is heavy......still feel light when u ride it.

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    blitz 1 questions:

    how much does the blitz 1 frame weigh?

    does the blitz 1 utilize needle bearings w/ grease ports in the pivots?

    what is the eye-2-eye on the blitz 1?

    thanks, i'm interested in buying that adrenaline bike blitz 1...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sriracha
    how much does the blitz 1 frame weigh?

    does the blitz 1 utilize needle bearings w/ grease ports in the pivots?

    what is the eye-2-eye on the blitz 1?

    thanks, i'm interested in buying that adrenaline bike blitz 1...
    Frame weight i always forget 9-10 pounds.

    Roller bearings at all pivots just like every other multi pivot bike.

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    New question here.

    ...and how much does the Blitz II Frame weigh? Does it make sense to buy one for agressive trail riding (and occasionally bikepark use)? How about its pedaling efficiency and uphill performance? I've never found any reliable review of it. Maybe you can help me to find out the main characteristics?

    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razor67
    ...and how much does the Blitz II Frame weigh? Does it make sense to buy one for agressive trail riding (and occasionally bikepark use)? How about its pedaling efficiency and uphill performance? I've never found any reliable review of it. Maybe you can help me to find out the main characteristics?

    Thank you.
    It is over 10lbs. It can pedal up hill fine but it is no XC bike so with any bike of this style you will work on long climbs. It is designed as a FR bike or a heavy duty AM bike. Versus was able to get there bike somewhere around 32lbs or less.

    http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Freeride...t_127001.shtml

    http://www.versuscycles.com/

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    Funny that you just mentioned, cause we just finished building this for a customer. 32.3 Ibs as an ALL MOUNTAIN setup

    Versus Blitz II Med

    07 Fox 36 TALAS RC2
    07 Fox DHX Air
    Formula Oro Puro Gold (Pump/Carbon Levers/Kevlar hose/ Ti Fasteners)
    SRAM X-O Blackbox rear d.
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    Hadley Hubs
    DT Swiss Wheels
    XT Cranks
    MRP Carbon Ring
    Heim Guide
    Chris King headset
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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidsystm
    Funny that you just mentioned, cause we just finished building this for a customer. 32.3 Ibs as an ALL MOUNTAIN setup

    Versus Blitz II Med

    very nice build!

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    That is very very sweet, awsome job there liquidsystm Did you pick the parts or the customer dang that is almost what i would build my next Blitz with.

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    What tires are on there? Were they included in the weight?

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    That's a sweet build liquidsystm! Seems like that would be a heck of a good AM ride.

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    They look like kenda nev's

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    only thing I don't like on that bike is the suspension. Otherwise it is pimp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidsystm
    Funny that you just mentioned, cause we just finished building this for a customer. 32.3 Ibs as an ALL MOUNTAIN setup

    Versus Blitz II Med

    07 Fox 36 TALAS RC2
    07 Fox DHX Air
    Formula Oro Puro Gold (Pump/Carbon Levers/Kevlar hose/ Ti Fasteners)
    SRAM X-O Blackbox rear d.
    SRAM X-O shifters
    Hadley Hubs
    DT Swiss Wheels
    XT Cranks
    MRP Carbon Ring
    Heim Guide
    Chris King headset
    Thompson Stem
    SDG I-Beam seat



    Sweet build. One thing though, you front tire is on backwards, unless you run your Blue Grooves backwards.

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    Thanks for your help dogonfr. Liquidsystm's sweet build is a good example for my intended purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidsystm
    Funny that you just mentioned, cause we just finished building this for a customer. 32.3 Ibs as an ALL MOUNTAIN setup

    Versus Blitz II Med

    07 Fox 36 TALAS RC2
    07 Fox DHX Air
    Formula Oro Puro Gold (Pump/Carbon Levers/Kevlar hose/ Ti Fasteners)
    SRAM X-O Blackbox rear d.
    SRAM X-O shifters
    Hadley Hubs
    DT Swiss Wheels
    XT Cranks
    MRP Carbon Ring
    Heim Guide
    Chris King headset
    Thompson Stem
    SDG I-Beam seat












    how much would that weigh with a fox dhx coil on that, plus what is price for that?

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    fox dhx coil weighs about a pound more i believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidsystm
    32.3 Ibs as an ALL MOUNTAIN setup
    damn, dude. awesome.

    are the tires 2.3s? and that fork must be around 4.5 pounds?

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    Yeah with the DHX coil its about a pound heavier, and with a Ti spring, it saves a half pound off of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dblackfly
    Yup mine too have a nice little notch on the rocker arm. Once my thigh got a pinch between it..... else it is a great bike
    Finally got this problem fixed. The Salsa seatpost clamp was sweet, but it was notching the rocker arm.

    I swapped out the Salsa for my Hope. The Hope lever is low profile, and the lever can be adjusted at an angle.

    The pics below show the bike with the shock removed and the tired maxed out in its travel against the seatstay tube.

    You can see where the rocker arm was getting notched in its travel. There's now at least a few cms of distance.

    BTW, the wife loves the bike.

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    how does the blitz do for downhill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaman
    how does the blitz do for downhill?
    Depends on the build, I would think. The components on my wife's bike are mostly FR and DH, and it weighs 40+ lbs. Slap on a 888, and you've got a 45 lb rig, same as my v-10.

    Also depends on what you plan to use it for. The Blitz is flexible enough to be a "lightweight" freeriding, dirt jumping, DH bike. The Trigger would give you much the same bike, but leaning toward "heavy duty" freeriding and drops of all magnitude.

    Like many folks have said recently, Versus and Transition are making some great bikes. You wouldn't go wrong with either one for pretty much anything you could throw at it. Just need to decide which part of 40 pounds you prefer.

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    New Blitz Build

    I built one up for my wife a few months ago. She loves it.

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    A few days ago, I finished building up mine and got the first ride in yesterday. Here's some details.

    The frame is a large, with a Fox DHX Air and a Marzocchi 66 RCX2. With Nevegal 2.5s and Kenda welterweight tubes, it's 39.8 pounds.

    I bought Holzfeller triple cranks and replaced them with a Race Face 36-tooth ring and a Gamut P40 guide. I wanted DH cranks but didn't want the hassle and weight of a front shifter/derailler. The Gamut works great and is way lighter than an e13.

    The wheels are Hadley hubs laced to DT Swiss FR 6.1s. They weigh the same as my Mavic 729s + Hadleys. No weight savings with these rims. Hope they hold up.

    The bike pedals great and jumps like a cat. But the DHX Air blows through its travel, even with the bottom-out adjuster maxed out and 190 pounds of air.

    Other than that, the bike is super sweet. Totally happy with it.

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    Two More

    Gamut guide (ISCG 2005!) and Holzfeller cranks. SRAM cassette and Hadley hub.

    The derailler cable housing is off an old bike and will be replaced with Avid Flak Jacket.

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    seatstay rub

    One other thing, on larger jumps/drops, the rear tire rubs the seat stay. This is my first 4-bar bike, so maybe this is pretty common. I'll keep tweaking the DHX or eventually replace it with a Rocco.

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    Drool,slurp ! Damn !

    Love those plates. So much style on them.
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    thats awesome

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    Hadley's in the house.....................very nice.....congrats to you mang
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    friggen sweeeeeeet!!

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    that is a killer ride man! congrats!
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    keep enough pressure in those tires or you will be dinging them every ride.

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    nice looking build!
    Looking for a 7.87 x 2.25mm shock, any brand any age that runs well!! cheap would be appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by levee67
    laced to DT Swiss FR 6.1s. Hope they hold up.
    They won't, unfortunately. I try to use whatever DT stuff I can as they are local, but they really dropped the ball on the 6.1's.

    Mine are so dented it's amazing they'll hold a bead anymore.

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    Those tires have a pretty tall profile, that's probably why you have contact issues under hard compression.

    Those rims are a pretty soft alloy, they'll dent and flatspot even easier than Halos or Sun Singletracks. My Halos have managed to stay very round since I actually bother to pump up my tires.

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    Bonking ... not feelin' well

    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Hitting up Dville this comming weekend
    Probably won't hit Dville until after the Whistler trip at the end of this month.

    I run 24 psi or less on my Mavic wheels, so we'll see pretty quick if the DT Swiss hold up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by levee67
    Probably won't hit Dville until after the Whistler trip at the end of this month.

    I run 24 psi or less on my Mavic wheels, so we'll see pretty quick if the DT Swiss hold up.

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    Was running 27psi at Dville last weekend with a 2.35 folding bead in the read & pinch flatted a DH tube. Did'nt have a spare DH had to use a XC tube & pumped it to 35 to be on the safe side for the rest of the weekend.
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    ya 27psi is way to low for d-ville even if u have dh tires and tubes. i run like 37 in mine and ive never flatted up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbames190
    ya 27psi is way to low for d-ville even if u have dh tires and tubes. i run like 37 in mine and ive never flatted up there.
    heh, I've never flatted at 24 in Dville. I guess I just busted my luck by saying it.

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    Such a hot bike....great setup...I love it!
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    you need a shot of your bike with the female one!
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    But the DHX Air blows through its travel, even with the bottom-out adjuster maxed out and 190 pounds of air.

    Is that 190 in the main chamber or boost valve. if you are not pressurising the boost valve it wont matter how much you crank the dial.

    Nice looking ride, that design of the rocker is an interesting departure from the usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbames190
    ya 27psi is way to low for d-ville even if u have dh tires and tubes. i run like 37 in mine and ive never flatted up there.
    Running 26psi front with a FR side wall & DH tube with no prob so far. The folding bead is what flated me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdtmtb
    But the DHX Air blows through its travel, even with the bottom-out adjuster maxed out and 190 pounds of air.

    Is that 190 in the main chamber or boost valve. if you are not pressurising the boost valve it wont matter how much you crank the dial.
    190 in the main and 100 in the boost. I've been using the set-up guide for the Santa Cruz Nomad. Earlier today, I was hitting the step down at Boy Scout and was tire-scrubbing the seat stay.

    So tonight, I used the set-up guide for the Yeti ASX. It said 180 in the main and 135 in the boost. I didn't hit anything huge, but that seemed to work pretty good.

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    very nice ride!
    Is that a 2.25x7.785 shock?
    I read somewhere that the air would be 2.0 (6 inches travel), and the coil would be 2.25 (6.75 inches).. kind of curious why you couldn't put a 2.25 air on this bike if that's the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by levee67
    190 in the main and 100 in the boost. I've been using the set-up guide for the Santa Cruz Nomad. Earlier today, I was hitting the step down at Boy Scout and was tire-scrubbing the seat stay.

    So tonight, I used the set-up guide for the Yeti ASX. It said 180 in the main and 135 in the boost. I didn't hit anything huge, but that seemed to work pretty good.

    damon
    That bugs me cause I was seriously considering this bike (with DHX 5.0) as opposed to a VPX based on price and particularly the Delarosa's incredible customer service. I called just to ask a few questions about the Blitz and Herb stayed on the phone talking bikes with me for about an hour. Not another company (owner) out there with that kinda personal service. PROPS to Versus and the Delarosa's.
    Looking for a burly freeride bike with good handling and pedalling characteristics this bike sounds like the call but for my style of FR (big drops, gaps, DJ etc) I think is a bit much for a 6 3/4" 4-bar with a 2" stroke. I'm just not convinced this bike is as prepared to be classed "Extreme FR" as it's reputation claims. For gnarly singletrack, DJ and sub-10 foot drops it's the best bang for the buck and one of the sweetest looking and best built bikes hands down.
    Just my preferrance but congrats on the new ride bro!! Definately hot looking bike and awesome build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unfluid one
    very nice ride!
    Is that a 2.25x7.785 shock?
    I read somewhere that the air would be 2.0 (6 inches travel), and the coil would be 2.25 (6.75 inches).. kind of curious why you couldn't put a 2.25 air on this bike if that's the case.
    I don't know what the shock stroke is. I'll have to find out and get back to you.

    But, the air came stock from Versus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by levee67
    190 in the main and 100 in the boost. I've been using the set-up guide for the Santa Cruz Nomad. Earlier today, I was hitting the step down at Boy Scout and was tire-scrubbing the seat stay.

    So tonight, I used the set-up guide for the Yeti ASX. It said 180 in the main and 135 in the boost. I didn't hit anything huge, but that seemed to work pretty good.

    damon
    Good work, I have a DHX coil and run about 140 in the boost. The trick is to make 5psi adjustments in each (but only one at time) to find your perfect setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibanezrg520kid
    you need a shot of your bike with the female one!
    Here you go.

    Frames are very similar. Toptube on mine is a good inch longer. My knees hit the bar ends on her bike. I'm 5'10". My wife is 5'6". Other than that, either of us could ride either one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibanezrg520kid
    you need a shot of your bike with the female one!
    And the other side.

    Builds are pretty close.

    Hers:
    Double ring, carbon fiber Truvativ cranks.
    Halo rims.
    Deity bar.
    e13 bashgaurd.

    Mine:
    Single ring Holzfellers on mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unfluid one
    very nice ride!
    Is that a 2.25x7.785 shock?
    I read somewhere that the air would be 2.0 (6 inches travel), and the coil would be 2.25 (6.75 inches).. kind of curious why you couldn't put a 2.25 air on this bike if that's the case.
    Seems to be 7.875 x 2.

    So would the 2.5 fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by levee67
    Seems to be 7.875 x 2.

    So would the 2.5 fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Talk to Herb beffor you jump the gun & make a expensive mess for nothing.
    Yup, good thing I did. Herb got right back to me. The dhx air is actually 7.875 x
    2.25 (not 2.0). And he did not recommend the 2.5, since the suspension wasn't designed around that stroke.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by levee67
    Yup, good thing I did. Herb got right back to me. The dhx air is actually 7.875 x
    2.25 (not 2.0). And he did not recommend the 2.5, since the suspension wasn't designed around that stroke.

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    man the dilemma I'm in is if I should swap frames. I've had the 6.6 for 9 months now, totally happy with its performance, and boy.. it's a real head turner. The only thing I wish it had was a slightly stiffer rear end. It's built up with a z1 light at 34.4 pounds, so I think swapping all the parts over to a Blitz II would result in a 36.5 pound bike (medium 6.6 with dhx air is 7.5 lbs i think).

    What i love about the 6.6 is how I can pedal out of the saddle on the climbs and it feels great... and how the downhills are pretty darn fluid. I know this topic has been beat to death, but with a dhx air and the propedal up, will the blitz be a lot for sluggish on the climbs when I stand up to pedal.. and does the vpp really feel that much smoother on the rougher DH runs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unfluid one
    man the dilemma I'm in is if I should swap frames. I've had the 6.6 for 9 months now, totally happy with its performance, and boy.. it's a real head turner. The only thing I wish it had was a slightly stiffer rear end. It's built up with a z1 light at 34.4 pounds, so I think swapping all the parts over to a Blitz II would result in a 36.5 pound bike (medium 6.6 with dhx air is 7.5 lbs i think).

    What i love about the 6.6 is how I can pedal out of the saddle on the climbs and it feels great... and how the downhills are pretty darn fluid. I know this topic has been beat to death, but with a dhx air and the propedal up, will the blitz be a lot for sluggish on the climbs when I stand up to pedal.. and does the vpp really feel that much smoother on the rougher DH runs?
    have you considered a bolt on rear axle? or are you talking about play in the bearings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coma13
    have you considered a bolt on rear axle? or are you talking about play in the bearings?
    Yeah maybe I should look into a bolt-on. That would make a considerable difference?
    I wouldn't really say it's the bearings. I can easily grab the wheel or the frame and apply some torque and see movement in the tubes/alignment. When I hit a corner, I hear the discs rubbing... then when I go straight, it's ok. I've ridden a few other bikes that seemed to track better.. for this reason probably.

    if the bolt-on helps that much.. let me know and I'll get my hands on one.
    I have Hadleys with a QR.. that should be convertible to a 10mm bolt-on I presume.

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    a bolt on axle can help a lot with the torsional action you're talking about as it serves as an anchor on the end instead of basically an open V at the end of your chainstays... Get the kit from Hadley... it'll be cheap and easy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by coma13
    a bolt on axle can help a lot with the torsional action you're talking about as it serves as an anchor on the end instead of basically an open V at the end of your chainstays... Get the kit from Hadley... it'll be cheap and easy!
    Both of these Blitzes have the Hadley 10mm thru-axle. Coming off a QR on my old AS-X, I can tell you that the bolt-on rocks. The rear is super stiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by levee67
    Both of these Blitzes have the Hadley 10mm thru-axle. Coming off a QR on my old AS-X, I can tell you that the bolt-on rocks. The rear is super stiff.

    damon

    Great thanks for that suggestion. I just ordered the kit right now.
    Still tempted to switches frames though .. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by unfluid one
    Great thanks for that suggestion. I just ordered the kit right now.
    Still tempted to switches frames though .. hehe
    well if you're dying to give it away i'll gladly take that 6.6 off of your hands! heck, being the nice guy that i am, i'll even throw in the cash to ship it!
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    well if you're dying to give it away i'll gladly take that 6.6 off of your hands! heck, being the nice guy that i am, i'll even throw in the cash to ship it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
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    New Toy: Versus Weapon X

    Hey Everyone...

    Just built up a frame. There wasn't much info available in the forums when I was contemplating the purchase. The frame looked sick, so I took the plunge. Respect to my boy J- in SoCal. He hooked me up, bigtime!

    Maybe this thread will generate some interesting discussion. Perhaps there are more Versus owners out there. If so, please post your rides!

    Specs:

    frame Versus Weapon X, 9" Travel
    fork MarZ' 888RC, 203mm
    shock Fox DHX 5.0 Coil
    handlebar FSA Gravity Light 31.8mm
    stem MarZ' integrated
    seatpost Titec pyro scoper (telescopic)
    saddle FUNN launch pad
    pedals Wellgo B-67
    shifters SRAM X.7 trigger, rear only
    front derailleur E-Thirteen SRS Guide
    rear derailleur SRAM X.7 mid cage
    brakes Avid bb7 8"
    levers Avid FR-5
    cassette XT 11-32T
    chain SRAM PC-951
    cranks Race Face Prodigy DH
    ring Black Spire 38T
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    Nice. How much does it weigh?

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    :drool:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillmoe Slim
    Nice. How much does it weigh?
    Not sure. I will put it on the scale tomorrow night and post the weight for you. My guess is around 50 lbs.

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    Allen Bolts

    On the non-drive side, what are the 3 allen bolts on the chainstay for?
    Were looking at balz

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghashmi
    On the non-drive side, what are the 3 allen bolts on the chainstay for?
    Thanks for looking. Those allen bolts are for the suspension linkages. Imagine the Rocky Mountain RMX shock/suspension links turned 90 degrees clockwise. Here are some more detailed pics.
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    Your seat tube is bent.











    Nice ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moment
    Your seat tube is bent.











    Nice ride.

    Good thing you told me. Otherwise I probably wouldn't have noticed...

    Thanks for the compliment!

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    New Versus Blitz 1 build

    Here is a picture of the freeride bike I just built. The wife got me the frame for a anniversary gift and built it with parts I have been stock piling.
    Rides fantastic and handles like it has a lot more travel then it does. The shifters and rear derailleur are off my slayer and will go back to it as soon as I decided what to put on this bike



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    very nice! i like the subdued, understated black. might need more fork in the future. anyway, enjoy it...

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    Please tell me those mech. brakes are temporary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moment
    Please tell me those mech. brakes are temporary.
    Yes, they are... I spent a small fortune getting it built, and wanted to get it on the trail ASAP. I cannibalized parts from my DJ bike, to get it finished. However, you can't sleep on those brakes. With new cables/housing and proper adjustment, the BB7's are quite capable. I have been very impressed by w/ their performance. I think ppl knock these brakes just b/c they are "mechanical."

    Also, I discovered another advantage to the BB7's. This past w/end I jettison'd the bike and the rear caliper/rotor/wheel landed square on a rock. The rotor was warped so badly that the wheel wouldn't turn. I was able to bend the rotor into shape and use the caliper adjustment dials enough to get by for the rest of the day. That wouldn't have been possible w/ most hydraulic setups (minus the Juicy 7).

    Thanks for the reply.

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    Hi there,
    Am looking at the Weapon X as a downhill compliment to my freeride rig. This looks sweet and is appropriately named.
    How are you finding it and are there any components you would change second time round?
    Any update on the weight?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueychip
    Hi there,
    Am looking at the Weapon X as a downhill compliment to my freeride rig. This looks sweet and is appropriately named.
    How are you finding it and are there any components you would change second time round?
    Any update on the weight?
    Thanks
    Hey, I appreciate the compliment, and thanks for peeping my thread. I've ridden the bike a few times at Diablo by now. I am exremely happy with it. It's a sick bike! I've done just about every drop at Diablo, and the bike didn't even flinch. It is predictable in the air, and it absolutely plows thru the rough stuff. I think it's value, and performance/dollar are tough to beat.

    What components would I change? Thatís a tough one. Perhaps the BB7's, but not for their performance. I happen to love these brakes. When set up correctly (correct levers, high quality cables/housing, etc), I think the BB7 is right up there with most of the mid-grade/mid-priced hydraulics. They are powerful, easy to set up, and have good modulation. The only issue I have with them is durability. I dropped the bike a few times, and smashed the rear caliper the rocks. The front caliper took a hit and the red dial fell off. Luckily I was able to piece it back together on the trail. Nevertheless, they held up very well considering.

    As far as using this bike for DH, I think that depends on your intended purpose. The bike is quite heavy, and it is labor-some to pedal. If you plan to race, I think it may not be the best choice for a dedicated DH racer. You are better off with a Sunday, V10, Stab. You're better off using it for FR. I haven't weighed it yet, but a guestimate of my setup is +/- 55lbs or so. I will get back to you with an exact number. Stay tuned...

    Also, I have contacted Herb at Versus. He replied promptly--within an hour or less, and that was on the w/end. They appear to stand behind their products. That is definitely worth mentioning.

    Let me know if you have any other questions...

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    The current setup is 49.5 lbs. That's w/ Hayes 9's, not the BB7's pictured...

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    Weapon pics

    Hi there. Nice bike huh (Iv just bought one too;> But its stil on the plane.) hehe
    In regards to your rear shock, I think you have it around the wrong way! The reservoir should be pointing forward shouldnt it!. Looks like ya tires gonna have a little "meeting" with it. Besides rocks and crap will hit the reservoir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niks11
    Hi there. Nice bike huh (Iv just bought one too;> But its stil on the plane.) hehe
    In regards to your rear shock, I think you have it around the wrong way! The reservoir should be pointing forward shouldnt it!. Looks like ya tires gonna have a little "meeting" with it. Besides rocks and crap will hit the reservoir!
    Hey, thanks for looking. You are 100% right about the shock orientation. I found that out the hard way. I was so p'ssed about that, cuz the tire and reservoir did indeed have a "meeting." It went thru the label and polished the finish off the bottom out adjustment knob. I can't believe I didn't notice that after gawking at pics, build, ride, etc.

    Anyway, I think you will enjoy the bike. I certainly do. Mine gets tons of attention. It becomes a conversation piece at the local hill, since not many ppl know about it. Let me know what you think after you build it and ride...

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    Versus At Work

    Getting colder around these parts of NorCal. Herb is busy on the CAD redesigning the new hardtail frame and machining a very trick adjustable axle that should have three different axle size possibilities. Another nice feature is the ability to remove the rear wheel without pieces falling every place; they all stay within the drop outs.

    Then there is the new internal Gear Boxx bike still in its proto type form but looking very nice and solid. Seems to be a trademark for Versus- making bikes that are smooth as silk at the pivots , yet laterally stiff.

    Versus Cycles rider Andrew Taylor takes 1st place in the Air Dome Jump Jam and 2nd place in the Slopestyle competition at Whistler's Huckfest. Check out the Latest News - http://www.versuscycles.com/
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    Versus Blitz Two Years of Riding

    Bought the Versus Blitz on January 19th 2005 and started putting all the new parts on that i had ordered for the previous 5 months. Decided to go with the medium frame for the intended riding, AM/DH. Herb & Vivian called to ask if they could send the frame with a Fox DHX5.0 instead of the Manitou Swinger 4-Way, of course i said yes to the DHX5.0 shock. The Blitz is designed as a 4-5-6 inch travel frame but i left it in the 6 inch setting. For 2 years the Blitz has been my do-all bike from XC to DH. In January 2006 i removed the dust seals from the bearings to repack them and the shifter cables and housing. Riding all the local trails in Marin County, Oat Hill in Calistoga, Northstar, Downieville, Pevine Reno, Pacifica and the muddy '05 GGG (now the CHDH). For 2 years the Versus Blitz has been flawless, i'm going to miss this great friend.

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    Manitou Fire Fly '06.
    Shimano XT derailleurs & LX shifters.
    Race Face cranks, BB, seat post stem.
    Answer Pro Taper handlebar with Lizzard Skinz Moab lock on grips.
    WTB DH wheel set & seat.
    Hayes HFX-Mag brakes with Galfer Wave Rotors (6 rear, 8 front).
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    are you selling it or just retiring it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMR For Life
    are you selling it or just retiring it?

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    It's going up for sale as a frame & shock only.
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