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    Quote Originally Posted by TM1
    on the Propulsion got me to put the new REVELATION on my bike.

    it's 100-130mm travel and hadles very nice.
    Sounds like a perfect fork for the frame, any pics yet?

    I think RockShox has really taken a huge step forward when it comes to quality and preformance on their forks.

    Any verdicts yet on Marzocchi vs. RS Revelation?
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    Pic's will be coming soon ...

    as for the Zoke vs. RS ...

    The RVL is a VERY big step up from the MX.
    It's plusher, it's very stiff.
    The infinite adjustment options makes the fork tunable to your specific ride style.
    It feels like 2 bikes. 130mm and "open" going down, 100mm and "closed" going up on simple roads, and all the other options to the range in between.

    pic's ? soon ...

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    I ride an Azonic DS-1 as an urban/DJ rig. There are a ton of people on the DH/FR forum riding Steelheads and loving them. IMHO Azonic makes the best products for the buck.

    I have my DS-1 set up with a gheto SS and now run a Marzocchi Drop Off Comp that I lowered the travel down to 100mm.
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    Are there any Saber riders using something other than the Romic coil shock on their bikes? I'm wondering what other options there are for upgrades way down the road (basically, when I get tired of hauling the weight of the Romic up the hill).
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    get a RP3 or a 2005/6 FLOAT-R

    the RP3 if you want the 3 propedal option. if you like to change the shock going up or down hill.
    get the float-r if you are a "plug&play" guy.

    both will make your Saber much more efficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TM1
    the RP3 if you want the 3 propedal option. if you like to change the shock going up or down hill.
    get the float-r if you are a "plug&play" guy.

    both will make your Saber much more efficient.

    Cool. Thanks for the info. I was actually thinking the DHX Air, but the either one you suggested would be a good choice, too.
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    the DHX-air will be fine ...

    if you are on the agressive side of trail riding or even FR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TM1
    if you are on the agressive side of trail riding or even FR.


    Cool. Thanks for the info. Since I'm not to insane and more of an aggressive XC guy, I think I'll go with the either the RP3 or the Float. I don't see the Float in the right shock length or stroke, so it may end up being the RP3.

    Any thoughts on the Manitou Swinger Airs for the Saber?
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    Saber info

    I checked out the Xtension site but did not see any frame weight on the Saber. Anyone have this info?

    How about a ride report on the Saber. It looks like a nice bike.

    I found an ad for '04 Saber frames for $699. That seems too good to be true for a Horst Link bike with 5/6" travel.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalEpic
    I checked out the Xtension site but did not see any frame weight on the Saber. Anyone have this info?

    How about a ride report on the Saber. It looks like a nice bike.

    I found an ad for '04 Saber frames for $699. That seems too good to be true for a Horst Link bike with 5/6" travel.

    Thanks in advance.

    C

    I'm very happy with mine. My one complaint is that the coil shock weighs a ton. However, I'm used to my Fuel with its air shock.

    The Saber is a very nice riding bike. It rides tall, though. I'm 5'8", and I've got the 17" frame, and it is almost too big for me. If I could have gotten the 16" frame from Xtension, I would have.

    The $699 is a killer deal. When I got mine, it was $799 from Wheel World. I wouldn't hesitate to jump at the lower price if I had to do it over again. Fun bike.
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    saber delight

    Quote Originally Posted by CalEpic
    I checked out the Xtension site but did not see any frame weight on the Saber. Anyone have this info?

    How about a ride report on the Saber. It looks like a nice bike.

    I found an ad for '04 Saber frames for $699. That seems too good to be true for a Horst Link bike with 5/6" travel.

    Thanks in advance.

    C

    buy it!
    believe me, you're on the right track. that frame @ that price is hands down one of the best deals ever offered IMHO. look @ the geometry details of the Turner 6 pack. notice any similarities? if the Pack is the type of frame that fits your style then it should be an easy decision. i've been on mine for 2 years and couldn't be happier w/ it. i can't believe you wouldn't be also.
    later
    p.s.17"=7.9lbs
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    Saber

    Thanks for the info guys. I'm going to check one out in person.

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    Here are my 2 Azonics......
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    BETD plates for the Propulsion ?

    Well, BETD is considering making roker plates for the Propulsion.
    They will make the plates if they will be able to sale some 50 pairs.

    The palates will alow a longer/changeable travel for the Propulsion.

    Get in their web-site (www.betd.co.uk), enter the chat and respond !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TM1
    Well, BETD is considering making roker plates for the Propulsion.
    They will make the plates if they will be able to sale some 50 pairs.

    The palates will alow a longer/changeable travel for the Propulsion.

    Get in their web-site (www.betd.co.uk), enter the chat and respond !!!
    Cool! I kinda regret I didn't go for the Sabre, but I have made my choice and more travel would be great om the Propulsion! Thanks for the info.
    //Harri

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    Saber

    Here's the Saber I finished building last night. Got the frame used off Ebay, buffed it up a bit and added some spare parts from the bin and fes new bits. 35lbs as shown. Spec:

    19" 2004 Saber frame
    Romic shock (also have a Manitou Air 4-way)
    XT 752 cranks & BB, XT 11-32 cassette and XTR chain
    SRAM X-9 rear der.
    SRAM x-9 shifters
    SRAM X-Gen front der.
    WTB Dual Duty rims with WTB Speed Disc hubs
    Manitou Nixon Elite Coil 115-145mm
    Avid BB7 Discs
    Avid SD7 levers
    Azonic bars
    FSA stem
    Ritchey seat post
    Selle Italia ProLink Saddle
    Geax Sturdt 2.25 tires
    Cane Creek S-2 headset
    ODI lockons
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    new ride

    Quote Originally Posted by cutthroat
    Here's the Saber I finished building last night. Got the frame used off Ebay, buffed it up a bit and added some spare parts from the bin and fes new bits. 35lbs as shown. Spec:

    19" 2004 Saber frame
    Romic shock (also have a Manitou Air 4-way)
    XT 752 cranks & BB, XT 11-32 cassette and XTR chain
    SRAM X-9 rear der.
    SRAM x-9 shifters
    SRAM X-Gen front der.
    WTB Dual Duty rims with WTB Speed Disc hubs
    Manitou Nixon Elite Coil 115-145mm
    Avid BB7 Discs
    Avid SD7 levers
    Azonic bars
    FSA stem
    Ritchey seat post
    Selle Italia ProLink Saddle
    Geax Sturdt 2.25 tires
    Cane Creek S-2 headset
    ODI lockons
    heh, heh,

    good place to make the announcement, away from those ruthless bastiges over at the turner forum-they'd be all over ya. you ride today? you've got to be itching to get on it. have you got a 5spot or a 6pack? i sure am looking forward to hearing your opinion in comparing the azonic to a turner. gonna be interesting.
    later

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    i still ride my ds1
    i use it for everything
    2003 dj1
    i love this bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge
    heh, heh,

    good place to make the announcement, away from those ruthless bastiges over at the turner forum-they'd be all over ya. you ride today? you've got to be itching to get on it. have you got a 5spot or a 6pack? i sure am looking forward to hearing your opinion in comparing the azonic to a turner. gonna be interesting.
    later
    I posted there too, and didn't get too much abuse . My Turner is an '04 Burner, modified with XR rockers for 4" plus a Fox RP3, or a Vanilla RC when I want 4.6" of travel. I opted for the Saber to be my bigger travel bike. Haven't been able to ride yet, -10 this morning and still snowing. When I have a chance to compare I'll post an update.
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    My Propulsion isdone !!!

    well, at last, I completed building the Propulsion.

    There it is. Ready to rock.

    FRAME Azonic X-Tension Propulsion size-20" travel-4"
    REAR SHOCK 2005 Fox Float-R
    FORK ROCKSHOX 2006 Revelation 426 Air U-Turn 100-130mm
    HEADSET Chris King NoThreadset 1-1/8"
    STEM Truvativ TEAM Riserbar 31.8
    HANDLEBARS Truvativ TEAM
    GRIPS ODI Ruffian lock grips
    BRAKES AVID juicy-5 6"-rotors
    FRONT DER. Shimano LX
    REAR DER. SRAM X.9 mid
    SHIFT LEVERS SRAM X.7
    CASSETTE Shimano LX 11-34
    CHAIN Shimano LX
    CRANKSET Shimano XT hollowtech II M-760
    PEDALS Shimano 647
    RIMS DT Swiss XR-4.1
    REAR HUB Shimano LX centerlock
    FRONT HUB Shimano LX centerlock
    SPOKES DT Swiss Champion/Competition
    FRONT TIRE Kenda Nevegal 2.1 stick-E
    REAR TIRE Kenda Nevegal 1.95 dtc
    SADDLE Selle San-Marco ASPIDE GelAround
    SEAT POST FSA SL250 XC 31.6mm 350mm Black
    SEAT BINDER Azonic QR 34.9 Black
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    Quote Originally Posted by TM1
    well, at last, I completed building the Propulsion.

    There it is. Ready to rock.

    FRAME Azonic X-Tension Propulsion size-20" travel-4"
    Wow! Nice stuff!
    What year is it on the frame?! Doesn't look like my Propulsion, yours looks more like a 5-spot!

    Congratulations or something..
    //Harri

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    Good job! '04 Azonic Saber (17")

    Just found this forum, so I'm chipping in mine...

    It's just about 36.5lbs, as spec'ed & shown in pic's below.


    '04 Saber 17" frame (7lbs 4oz)
    PUSH Vanilla RC Factory Race System for '02 Fox Vanilla RC shock 7.5"x2.0" (291g/body&DU&bumper + 10g/retainer ring) plus 550lbsx2.29" spring (405g/coil) plus 22mm/M8 lower-eyelet reducers (3gx2=6g) plus 4 rubber washers (3g) = 715g
    Upper-eyelet shock pin (32g)

    '05 Marzocchi All Mountain I fork with '03 Z1 FR dampers (HSCV & ETA) 130mm - 5lbs 2oz (steertube cut to 213mm, 55mm oil height, 7.5wt Maxima fork oil) + integrated fender (62g = 54g/fender + 4g/bolt + 4g/bolt)
    Chris King NoThread headset (1-1/8", 31.4mm total stack height)
    generic headset spacers (10mm/8g + 5mm/4g = 12g)

    Avid CPS mechanical disc brakes (185mm/front & 160mm/rear rotors)
    Avid SD-7 levers
    Avid Flak Jacket brake cable set (5mm housing)
    Avid Straight Jacket derailleur cable set (4mm housing)
    Jagwire Tube Tops housing covers / frame protectors

    SRAM X.9 derailleur ('medium' cage) = 247g
    SRAM X.9 trigger shifters = 252g/pair
    SRAM PC-69 chain
    SRAM Nightcrawler front derailleur cable sealer
    XT FD-M751 front derailleur (34.9mm) = 137g
    XT FC-M751 crankset (44-32-22T, 104mm/64mm, 4-bolt, with 175mm arms)
    XT BB-ES71 bottom bracket (68mm x 113mm) = 254g
    XT CS-M750 cassette (11-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32T) = 264g
    Truvativ RockGuard (Lexan polycarbonate) bash guard (4-bolt/104mm), 142mm (5 3/4") diameter, 10mm thick = 99g/plate + 28g/bolts = 127g
    Weyless B-27 platform pedals (250g x2)

    Race Face Diabolus stem (70mm, 10-degree, 25.4mm clamp) = 296g (with bolts)
    Race Face Evolve seatpost (31.6mm x 350mm) = 292g
    Race Face Riser Bar (Air Alloy, 28", 25.4mm clamp) = 345g
    ODI Rogue Lock-On Grips = 154g
    Hope Tech QR seatost collar (34.9mm) = 52g
    WTB Laser V Stealth (147mm x 269mm) = 235g
    VDO MC1.0 cycle computer with altimeter

    Sun Single Track disc rim + XT disc hub (HB-M756-L & FH-M756-L) + DT "Champion" 14 (2.0) spokes + DT standard brass nipples with XT skewers (59g/front + 64g/rear) & 3M strapping tape = 1165g/front + 1360g/rear (all included)
    Kenda Blue Groove 2.35 tires (Stick-E, folding, 60tpi) = 753g & 757g

    Also, here are some useful Saber-related info posts...

    * If you have a 17"-frame Saber and want to run 6"-travel mode...
    HELP: Saber owners (QR seatpost clamp bottoming on rocker plate)

    * Upper-eyelet reducer/shaft piece for Saber...
    http://forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspension/mounting-romic-shock-azonic-saber-frame-80308.html#post1210963

    * If you want to fit a Fox shock on Saber...
    http://forums.mtbr.com/downhill-freeride/azonic-saber-any-other-coil-shocks-126909.html#post1206135

    * If you ever want to fit a 5th Air shock on Saber...
    http://forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspension/5th-element-air-shock-hardware-calculator-87984.html#post843478

    * My cable routing for Saber...
    http://forums.mtbr.com/general-discussion/help-any-diy-ideas-rear-fender-149632.html#post1398867

    * Running full-housing on Saber...
    http://forums.mtbr.com/iron-horse/2003-hollowpoint-speedhub-build-pics-195.html#post500612

    * When I first got my frame...
    '04 Azonic Saber 17"


    Too bad '04 was the last Saber in the US, though...

    Cheers,
    - PiroChu
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    Yup, bringing up an old thread.

    I'm building up a 19" Saber right now and I'll either be using a 140mm Pike Team or 150mm Marz (04 Z150, 05-06 Z1 FR1) and I'm trying to figure out what the head angle will be with either option.

    I'll be using it for everything from XC (I don't mind the extra weight) to 4x/DJ (still learning, would like the Pike so I can lower the travel for this) to light FR/DH (drops no bigger than 4 or 5 feet to tranny and the occasional lift assisted DH run).

    I like the Pike's travel options and I don't know if I'll really notice a difference in 10mm of travel.

    Any ideas?
    Thanks,
    --Taylor

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgreathead
    Any ideas?
    Thanks,
    Being a owner of a Pike I can really recommend it (obviously partial, but anyway), as you said it's easy to adjust the travel and you still get the same nice, plush feeling even when turned to shortest travel.

    As you mentioned you like dirt biking, I imagine you probably also want to flip the switch and make your fork almost rigid and adjust the floodgate so that you still get suspension if you accidentally make a real hard landing!

    Even if the prices has gone up on the Pike I still think it gives most 'bang for the buck'.
    //Harri

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    More seasonally orientated photo. :)

    Just another foto, this is from yesterday, pretty much snow in the woods now but still possible to bike through the mush, lots of fun!
    //Harri

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