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    Where are my Vassago Bretheren???

    I know there are alot of you out there so post them up! I would love to see some build black label frames and of course your light weight Jabber builds. Fished building mine just before Christmas. Not sure when a new wheelset will appear but that is about the only other mod I am looking at doing at this point. I figure the wheel build I want will shed about a pound which will make me really happy! Current weight as pictured with winter tires and my heavy seat is 21.4. With the summer tires and carbon saddle it brings it down to about 20.25 or so, less if I pull the barends (but I love'm and the keep ending up back on the bike)
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    2013 Optimus Ti

    Here is my new 2013 Optimus Ti. Build this up this past month, and I have to say I love this bike.

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    Verhauen

    Here is my Verhauen, just built it up this past weekend. Swapped most of the drivetrain over from my last bike, picked up some Stans Arch EX wheels (needed the 142x12 & 15mm compatibility my other wheels didn't have) and an X-Fusion Slide 29 from Vassago as well. Build went together slick, bike handles so well and geometry is dialed (for me).

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    Surprised that there are only a couple posts on here. Guess most guys don't venture outside of their normal thread sections. Love the Opt Ti and seriously looking at doing the VerHauen in the next year if I don't take the plunge and go custom with a CocoNino. Not much changed on mine in the past year or so. Been thru a couple different brake set ups but running XT's now. On a different bar as well, Answer 720 w/ 20 sweep. Actually love them. Not as severe as the Mary's and way lighter! Carbon of course. Swapped the seat out for the SLR that was on my road bike and I think that's about it. Sold my light race wheels because I was just too damn paranoid about riding them and having them break. Been on the same Velocity VXC w/ White Ind hubs since the first day I built this bike and they are still rolling strong!

    Pic of the bike with all the fall colors was taken last week (pink grips are off...was easier to slip them on to try the new bar but since I like the bar I put my black ones on). Other pic is of the bike early spring with my other wheels on it and what not.
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    Here you go, my second Vassago!

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    My Jabber

    My old Jabber. Still my favorite bike!

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    Here's my Jabber in the wild. Been my favorite since I built it up. It has ridden with me in several states now.Where are my Vassago Bretheren???-image.jpgWhere are my Vassago Bretheren???-image.jpg
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    Just picked up a Bandersnatch, going to run it 1 x 10 with a rigid front fork and 29+ front tire for a little cushion.

    I'll post pictures when I get it built up.

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    And here it is...Where are my Vassago Bretheren???-bandersnatch.jpg

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    I just met and rode with a guy that has a few Vassago's. He is really quick, so they must be fast bikes. He really loves his. He had a carbon prototype hardtail. Not sure the model. I didn't know these existed before a couple weeks ago.
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    Figured I would give my post a shot on this thread rather than starting a whole new one. I've been lurking all the Vassago/Verhauen threads for the past few months and have become quite the fan but I'm getting very impatient with the wait time on their frames. I would like to hear from any of you Vassago owners. Any customer service issues etc.?

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    Just put some Frequency i23s on it with a 2.2 front and rear. The wide rims turned into a 2.25.
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    2015 VerHauen
    2014 Fisticuff
    2012 Jabberwocky
    2013 Bandersnatch (Sold... to many gears...)

    Didn't think it could get much better than my Jabber... Until I got my VerHauen. Love my Vassagos!







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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Whisperer View Post
    Just picked up a Bandersnatch, going to run it 1 x 10 with a rigid front fork and 29+ front tire for a little cushion.

    I'll post pictures when I get it built up.
    Hey there,

    I am considering the same build. Did you do this? If you did, would you mind sharing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoon View Post
    Hey there,

    I am considering the same build. Did you do this? If you did, would you mind sharing?

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    Sorry, been so busy at work that I've been out of the MTBR forums for a while now. Yes I added a 29 x 3.0 front tire on a P35 rim. The Vee Rubber tire actually ended up about 2.8" in width with tons of volume. It certainly did give some cushion but it always felt weird to me. I could never get entirely used to the fat tire feel up front. I recently purchased a Manitou Tower suspension fork to run up front and intend to install it this weekend.

    If you're interested I might consider selling the Surly fork and Vee Rubber tire together. Both are in excellent condition and there is plenty of clearance in the KM fork with the 29+ tire.

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    fire02fred,

    I saw that you've run the Knard on both your Bander and Jabber, what are your thoughts on that setup?


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    2015 VerHauen
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    Didn't think it could get much better than my Jabber... Until I got my VerHauen. Love my Vassagos!







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    Here's my reborn Jabberwocky.

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    Where are my Vassago Bretheren???-img_0305.jpg
    Jabber- First Vassago owned.

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    Loved the 29+ front end on my 29ers... So I decided to pick up a new 29+ VerHauen frame to replace my old VerHauen... Couldn't be happier with it!















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    Hopefully in 2016 I will have some pictures of a new sweet Vassago! Hoping to be able to sell my road bike and convert it into a gravel grinder...

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    Perfect....


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    Just need to cut the steerer tube.


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    Tom said in a few weeks. Jabber with Sliding dropouts and room for 3.0 tire!

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    His and Hers Verhauens
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    Curious, has anyone tried 27.5+ on a VerHauen?
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    Just ordered a 29+ Verhauen and Whisky #9 fork today.

    I'll be transferring all of my parts from my Krampus over and can't wait!

    Awesome bikes guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteitz View Post
    Curious, has anyone tried 27.5+ on a VerHauen?
    I would be interested to know this as well. Theoritically should, but it does have quite a high BB drop (66 mm).

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    My new Donnybrook.




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    Crap, never posted any finished pics since I've been enjoying it so much lol. Here are a few pics of the finished build.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikenature View Post
    My new Donnybrook.



    I've been saving my pennys for this frame. Saw your bike on FB when Vassago shared it. How do you like the ride? How's the fit?

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    Haha! I believe the final color had to be inspired by the custom VeHauen that Vassago repainted for me back in May. My inspiration was Volo's Rebel Blue color on their Polestar edition cars. Looks so good!
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    New Donnybrook:





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    Oh man...that Donnybrook is sweet!

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    I have been riding the 2013 OptimusTi for 3 years now! Still buttery smooth as the day I got it! Just built up an Optimus29+ and now I have issues deciding which bike to take out for a ride

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    Rumor has it that the new 2017 Vassago frames are arriving in the next few weeks with a lot of nice tweaks...

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    Any more news on 2017 release/site update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by singletrackkid View Post
    Any more news on 2017 release/site update?
    still waiting...and it's painful! LOL

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    wheels?

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    I am waiting on my Carver Gnarvester 29+ frame. What wheels are those? I still don't know which wheels, but I do like the looks of yours. I plan on the Chupacabras tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach1 View Post
    I am waiting on my Carver Gnarvester 29+ frame. What wheels are those? I still don't know which wheels, but I do like the looks of yours. I plan on the Chupacabras tires.
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    Nice. Gnarvester is awesome and I almost got one.

    The wheels are 40mm Nexties laced to Hope Pro 2 hubs. I really like the Chupacabra's, I plan on trying out some Surly Knards next since my local bike shop keeps them in stock.

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    Anyone talked to Tom lately? Any updates on the new frames? I may need to give him a call on Monday...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Ask him about the Jabersnatch?
    No problem. The updated Verhauen and Optimus frames are my own primary concerns, but I'll ask him for whatever info I can get on all of the above.

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    Right on!

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    Update on the first batches of new frames:

    2017 Verhauen - 2 weeks.
    2017 Optimus Ti - 4 weeks.
    Mooseknuckle - forgot to ask.
    Jabbersnatch - not gonna happen.

    The new Verhauen and Optimus Ti have identical geometry measurements. Each maintains most of the same tube length measurements as 2016, but they now both have 148mm boost spacing and 430mm chainstays that can safely fit 27.5x3.25" tires.

    (I forgot to ask about max 29er tire size because I was too focused on my own build. Sorry! I'll follow up on that question tomorrow).

    The first batch of Verhauens will not be painted. Instead, they heated the entire steel frame to bring out a unique mix of blues/purples/browns on the metal itself, and then simply added a clear coat on top of that. I personally think it looks pretty badass...

    Enjoy some 2017 Verhauen porn:


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    I really really like that heat-treated look. It's very interesting.
    I'd like to see more of that kind of thing. Vassago has done some neat colors, gold, root beer, now this...
    I've always kind of wondered what would happen if I stripped and clear coated a 4130 frame like a JabberWocky.

    I once bought a wheel set from a guy that took a torch to his ti frame, to similar effect. He actually claimed it was a prototype (or some story) Optimus, but he also said a lot of stuff that seemed odd. He also only rode his torched ti singlespeed on the road and it was geared like 38x14 or something. He showed me pics of it.
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    Couple more things I forgot to mention about the Verhauen:

    Normal 29er tires and 120mm fork = 69 deg HTA.

    27.5+ tires and 130mm fork = ~68.5 deg HTA.

    BB drop stays the same with either of those setups at 56mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleh0rse View Post
    Couple more things I forgot to mention about the Verhauen:

    Normal 29er tires and 120mm fork = 69 deg HTA.

    27.5+ tires and 130mm fork = ~68.5 deg HTA.

    BB drop stays the same with either of those setups at 56mm.
    Thanks for the updates, paleh0rse. Looking forward to hearing about the max 29 tire width...

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    With boost spacing, I'm pretty sure it was intended to clear a 3.0 tire, but can't say that for certain, just seems logical.
    That said: 430mm cs is likely gonna prevent you from slamming the dropouts full forward with a 29x3 tire.,
    My Jabber's spec sheet lists the CS length as 432 with a 56mm bb drop, and this is what it looks like with a Knard at 12-13 psi:
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    There's about 2mm of clearance, probably not advisable to leave it like that, a CS of 430 is gonna rub.
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    More 2017 Verhauen info:

    - max 29+ tire with sliders all the way forward: 29x2.8
    - max 29+ tire with sliders set 75% back: 29x3.2
    - max 27.5+ tire with sliders all the way forward: 27.5x3.25
    - Based on the above, it may possibly fit 27.5x3.8 Hodag with sliders set back 50-75%

    I still need to get clarification on fork travel recommendations (or A2C) for each of the possible wheel/tire combos. If or when I get that info, I'll be sure to post it.

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    And these should be available when? Two weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post
    And these should be available when? Two weeks?
    Yes, the first batch of new Verhauen frames is arriving in ~2 weeks. The first batch of Optimus Ti frames (same geometry with titanium) should arrive 2 to 3 weeks after that.

    There is a waiting list, though, so you should probably give them a call and talk to Tom if you're seriously interested in grabbing one from the first batches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleh0rse View Post
    Yes, the first batch of new Verhauen frames is arriving in ~2 weeks. The first batch of Optimus Ti frames (same geometry with titanium) should arrive 2 to 3 weeks after that.

    There is a waiting list, though, so you should probably give them a call and talk to Tom if you're seriously interested in grabbing one from the first batches.
    no news on the new jabbers? last i heard they were 3 weeks-ish away.

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    getting stoked and have been amassing parts. so far i have ordered or already have:

    XT 8000 brakes
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    RF Next cranks and 32t CR w/ BB
    Wolftooth 19th cog
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    hoping to get a kick down from some of my industry bros on the wheels. that just leaves frame, fork, headset. i'll scoop up a King from Vassago with the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct View Post
    getting stoked and have been amassing parts. so far i have ordered or already have:

    XT 8000 brakes
    RF cokpit
    RF Next cranks and 32t CR w/ BB
    Wolftooth 19th cog
    SRAM chain
    WTB silverado saddle
    2.6 Nobby Nics

    hoping to get a kick down from some of my industry bros on the wheels. that just leaves frame, fork, headset. i'll scoop up a King from Vassago with the frame.
    Sounds excellent! Which frame are you getting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleh0rse
    Sounds excellent! Which frame are you getting?
    boost jabber with a rigid fork!!!

    i had an old green jabber but sold it 2 years ago.

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    Recommended fork travel for each setup on the 2017 Verhauen and 2017 Optimus Ti:

    1. 27.5+ front and rear: 130-140mm.
    2. Normal 29er front and rear: 120mm.
    3. 29+ front and rear: 100mm.
    4. 29+ front and 27.5+ rear: "not recommended… but probably a 80-100mm fork if you did it" - Tom.

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    Has anyone here ever asked Tom for a custom paint job?

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    I'd tell you what color the new model is going to be, but I'd probably get in trouble for it!

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    Which new model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I'd tell you what color the new model is going to be, but I'd probably get in trouble for it!
    I already know the first batch of Verhauens will be raw tempered steel with a clear coat. Heck, I even posted photos of it earlier in this thread.

    If I choose to go with the steel instead of Ti, though, I just have a few pallette ideas of my own. It's not mandatory to get the color I want, but it would be an awesome bonus if I could -- and I'm willing to pay extra, of course.

    Was just a thought. I'll call him on Monday to explore the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singletrackkid View Post
    Which new model?
    I can't tell you, the name breaks forum rules. I got into trouble already about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I can't tell you, the name breaks forum rules. I got into trouble already about it.
    Are you saying there is another new model besides the updated Jabberwocky, Verhauen, Optimus Ti, and Mooseknuckle?

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    There's supposed to be, but I'm not sure when it's coming out. I haven't heard about that last one you mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    There's supposed to be, but I'm not sure when it's coming out. I haven't heard about that last one you mentioned.
    The possibility of yet another new frame intrigues me! I need to call Tom again...lol

    There are already several Mooseknuckles in the wild -- they started trickling out last month, and they're all over the Vassagocycles Instagram. It's a titanium frame with the same geo as the updated Verhauen and Optimus Ti. The photos below should tell you how it got its name.



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    Oh, that is beautiful! Be careful with that name. A certain moderator may think you're talking about something else.

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    Looks like Columbus tubing on the new Verhauen? What's with all the bottle mounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInfo View Post
    What's with all the bottle mounts?
    Extra mounts for bikepacking setups, or just extra water for epics.

    Tried calling for an update this afternoon. No answer.

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    Stumbled across the Vassago TKO on their web page the other day and it checks a lot of boxes. Not available in my size right now. Anyone know if they're going to restock? Or is it a custom order item only? Or are they gone, gone, gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleh0rse View Post
    The possibility of yet another new frame intrigues me! I need to call Tom again...lol

    There are already several Mooseknuckles in the wild -- they started trickling out last month, and they're all over the Vassagocycles Instagram. It's a titanium frame with the same geo as the updated Verhauen and Optimus Ti. The photos below should tell you how it got its name.



    That is one sexy bada** SS there
    Too Many .

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    I see why they call it the Mooseknuckle!

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    mooseknuckle frame is $2100 USD for anyone curious.

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    Been out and about on my Fisticuff... She took me coast to coast from San Diego to Jacksonville in just under two months SS, started in SD on January 16th. Thought maybe if I pulled that off they'd throw me a discount on that sexy new Mooseknuckle

    Where are my Vassago Bretheren???-screen-shot-2017-03-17-7.45.37-pm.jpg

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    Where are my Vassago Bretheren???-screen-shot-2017-03-17-7.52.17-pm.png

    Here she is all nekkid in single track monster cross shredding glory

    Where are my Vassago Bretheren???-screen-shot-2016-08-09-9.50.34-pm.jpg

    for more pics and BS from the coast to coast trip see @john_mct on the gramz

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    So.damn.epic! Congratulations!

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    Yeah, it's getting me all knuckled up. Have you chronicled your journey anywhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Yeah, it's getting me all knuckled up. Have you chronicled your journey anywhere?
    Just day to day snippets on instagram...never been much of a blogger so I figured if I started one up just for this trip it wouldn't gain much traction without an already established audience. Plus to be honest it was just a shitload of boring road riding. If it had been remote and gravellicous the whole way I'd probably have more to say.

    Finishline Pic:

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    I think people would be interested, if you started a thread with pictures and a story of your journey. It would be inspiring for people.

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    Any updates on all the new 2017 goodies? I'd like a full 2017 Verhauen geometry table if anyone has one. Will also be interested in full details on Optimus and Mooseknuckle when they get up on the Vassago site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcro View Post
    Any updates on all the new 2017 goodies? I'd like a full 2017 Verhauen geometry table if anyone has one. Will also be interested in full details on Optimus and Mooseknuckle when they get up on the Vassago site.
    All three of those frames will now share the same geo.

    The last word I got from Tom was that the new Verhauen and Optimus frames are due in next week ("last week of March"), and he plans to launch the new website with all the updated details the day they arrive.

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    let me guess....it's just a few more weeks out...

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    hehee...posted w/o checking their site. new jabbers are in and for sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct View Post
    hehee...posted w/o checking their site. new jabbers are in and for sale.
    The first batch of the other new frames arrived, as well. I got the notification from Tom for my new Optimus last week.

    I think I can also finally share the new geo for the 2017 Verhauen, Optimus, and Mooseknuckle frames. In addition to the new boost spacing (148mm), all three frames share the following geo:


    I'm not sure what the hold up is with Tom's new version of the website -- it's still not live. He really needs to get on that shit...

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    wonder if there are any slight geo tweaks to the jabber...i'm pretty sure there'll be no XL option on the jabber per an earlier message from Tom.

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    I'm standing by for a 2017 Donnybrook. Tom didn't know the colors a few weeks ago. I don't really care. I have a box full of parts and a wheel set that need to be installed so I can't wait. Good to see fellow Vassogians having a chat about some great bikes!

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    I've ridden my VerHauen SS with a 27.5+ "conversion" wheelset (Blunt 35s with WTB trailblazer 2.8s) and it works pretty well. The trailblazers fit easily, they are very tall and not that wide. It's a fun setup, more grip in most situations, the Trailblazers are a bit finicky with pressure. Handling is a little sharper, I assume because of the reduced trail. I have a Verfetten as well that I've converted to a "real" 27.5 plus bike, I'm still dialing in the cockpit, but it's loads of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARandomBiker View Post
    With boost spacing, I'm pretty sure it was intended to clear a 3.0 tire, but can't say that for certain, just seems logical.
    That said: 430mm cs is likely gonna prevent you from slamming the dropouts full forward with a 29x3 tire.,
    My Jabber's spec sheet lists the CS length as 432 with a 56mm bb drop, and this is what it looks like with a Knard at 12-13 psi:
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    There's about 2mm of clearance, probably not advisable to leave it like that, a CS of 430 is gonna rub.
    For another data point, i have one of the new boost frames and my 29" chupa ona 39mm internal rim needs to be roughly 3/4s of the way back on the slider in order to roll with a couple mils of clearance from the CS.
    i will not yield to DH traffic.

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