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    With boost spacing, I'm pretty sure it was intended to clear a 3.0 tire, but can't say that for certain, just seems logical.
    That said: 430mm cs is likely gonna prevent you from slamming the dropouts full forward with a 29x3 tire.,
    My Jabber's spec sheet lists the CS length as 432 with a 56mm bb drop, and this is what it looks like with a Knard at 12-13 psi:
    Where are my Vassago Bretheren???-img_0237.jpg
    There's about 2mm of clearance, probably not advisable to leave it like that, a CS of 430 is gonna rub.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Yeah, why not?

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    More 2017 Verhauen info:

    - max 29+ tire with sliders all the way forward: 29x2.8
    - max 29+ tire with sliders set 75% back: 29x3.2
    - max 27.5+ tire with sliders all the way forward: 27.5x3.25
    - Based on the above, it may possibly fit 27.5x3.8 Hodag with sliders set back 50-75%

    I still need to get clarification on fork travel recommendations (or A2C) for each of the possible wheel/tire combos. If or when I get that info, I'll be sure to post it.

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    And these should be available when? Two weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post
    And these should be available when? Two weeks?
    Yes, the first batch of new Verhauen frames is arriving in ~2 weeks. The first batch of Optimus Ti frames (same geometry with titanium) should arrive 2 to 3 weeks after that.

    There is a waiting list, though, so you should probably give them a call and talk to Tom if you're seriously interested in grabbing one from the first batches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleh0rse View Post
    Yes, the first batch of new Verhauen frames is arriving in ~2 weeks. The first batch of Optimus Ti frames (same geometry with titanium) should arrive 2 to 3 weeks after that.

    There is a waiting list, though, so you should probably give them a call and talk to Tom if you're seriously interested in grabbing one from the first batches.
    no news on the new jabbers? last i heard they were 3 weeks-ish away.

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    getting stoked and have been amassing parts. so far i have ordered or already have:

    XT 8000 brakes
    RF cokpit
    RF Next cranks and 32t CR w/ BB
    Wolftooth 19th cog
    SRAM chain
    WTB silverado saddle
    2.6 Nobby Nics

    hoping to get a kick down from some of my industry bros on the wheels. that just leaves frame, fork, headset. i'll scoop up a King from Vassago with the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct View Post
    getting stoked and have been amassing parts. so far i have ordered or already have:

    XT 8000 brakes
    RF cokpit
    RF Next cranks and 32t CR w/ BB
    Wolftooth 19th cog
    SRAM chain
    WTB silverado saddle
    2.6 Nobby Nics

    hoping to get a kick down from some of my industry bros on the wheels. that just leaves frame, fork, headset. i'll scoop up a King from Vassago with the frame.
    Sounds excellent! Which frame are you getting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleh0rse
    Sounds excellent! Which frame are you getting?
    boost jabber with a rigid fork!!!

    i had an old green jabber but sold it 2 years ago.

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    Recommended fork travel for each setup on the 2017 Verhauen and 2017 Optimus Ti:

    1. 27.5+ front and rear: 130-140mm.
    2. Normal 29er front and rear: 120mm.
    3. 29+ front and rear: 100mm.
    4. 29+ front and 27.5+ rear: "not recommended… but probably a 80-100mm fork if you did it" - Tom.

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    Has anyone here ever asked Tom for a custom paint job?

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    I'd tell you what color the new model is going to be, but I'd probably get in trouble for it!

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    Which new model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I'd tell you what color the new model is going to be, but I'd probably get in trouble for it!
    I already know the first batch of Verhauens will be raw tempered steel with a clear coat. Heck, I even posted photos of it earlier in this thread.

    If I choose to go with the steel instead of Ti, though, I just have a few pallette ideas of my own. It's not mandatory to get the color I want, but it would be an awesome bonus if I could -- and I'm willing to pay extra, of course.

    Was just a thought. I'll call him on Monday to explore the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singletrackkid View Post
    Which new model?
    I can't tell you, the name breaks forum rules. I got into trouble already about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I can't tell you, the name breaks forum rules. I got into trouble already about it.
    Are you saying there is another new model besides the updated Jabberwocky, Verhauen, Optimus Ti, and Mooseknuckle?

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    There's supposed to be, but I'm not sure when it's coming out. I haven't heard about that last one you mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    There's supposed to be, but I'm not sure when it's coming out. I haven't heard about that last one you mentioned.
    The possibility of yet another new frame intrigues me! I need to call Tom again...lol

    There are already several Mooseknuckles in the wild -- they started trickling out last month, and they're all over the Vassagocycles Instagram. It's a titanium frame with the same geo as the updated Verhauen and Optimus Ti. The photos below should tell you how it got its name.



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    Oh, that is beautiful! Be careful with that name. A certain moderator may think you're talking about something else.

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    Looks like Columbus tubing on the new Verhauen? What's with all the bottle mounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInfo View Post
    What's with all the bottle mounts?
    Extra mounts for bikepacking setups, or just extra water for epics.

    Tried calling for an update this afternoon. No answer.

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    Stumbled across the Vassago TKO on their web page the other day and it checks a lot of boxes. Not available in my size right now. Anyone know if they're going to restock? Or is it a custom order item only? Or are they gone, gone, gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleh0rse View Post
    The possibility of yet another new frame intrigues me! I need to call Tom again...lol

    There are already several Mooseknuckles in the wild -- they started trickling out last month, and they're all over the Vassagocycles Instagram. It's a titanium frame with the same geo as the updated Verhauen and Optimus Ti. The photos below should tell you how it got its name.



    That is one sexy bada** SS there
    Too Many .

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    I see why they call it the Mooseknuckle!

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    mooseknuckle frame is $2100 USD for anyone curious.

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    Been out and about on my Fisticuff... She took me coast to coast from San Diego to Jacksonville in just under two months SS, started in SD on January 16th. Thought maybe if I pulled that off they'd throw me a discount on that sexy new Mooseknuckle

    Where are my Vassago Bretheren???-screen-shot-2017-03-17-7.45.37-pm.jpg

    Where are my Vassago Bretheren???-screen-shot-2017-03-17-7.53.46-pm.jpg

    Where are my Vassago Bretheren???-screen-shot-2017-03-17-7.48.40-pm.jpg

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    Here she is all nekkid in single track monster cross shredding glory

    Where are my Vassago Bretheren???-screen-shot-2016-08-09-9.50.34-pm.jpg

    for more pics and BS from the coast to coast trip see @john_mct on the gramz

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    So.damn.epic! Congratulations!

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    Yeah, it's getting me all knuckled up. Have you chronicled your journey anywhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Yeah, it's getting me all knuckled up. Have you chronicled your journey anywhere?
    Just day to day snippets on instagram...never been much of a blogger so I figured if I started one up just for this trip it wouldn't gain much traction without an already established audience. Plus to be honest it was just a shitload of boring road riding. If it had been remote and gravellicous the whole way I'd probably have more to say.

    Finishline Pic:

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    I think people would be interested, if you started a thread with pictures and a story of your journey. It would be inspiring for people.

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    Any updates on all the new 2017 goodies? I'd like a full 2017 Verhauen geometry table if anyone has one. Will also be interested in full details on Optimus and Mooseknuckle when they get up on the Vassago site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcro View Post
    Any updates on all the new 2017 goodies? I'd like a full 2017 Verhauen geometry table if anyone has one. Will also be interested in full details on Optimus and Mooseknuckle when they get up on the Vassago site.
    All three of those frames will now share the same geo.

    The last word I got from Tom was that the new Verhauen and Optimus frames are due in next week ("last week of March"), and he plans to launch the new website with all the updated details the day they arrive.

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