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    What did you replace your MKIII with?

    After my MKIII front triangle cracked a few months ago, the daunting task of replacing it was upon me. At first the other DW-Link offerings looked good, but they were VERY expensive, and in many cases did not have the geometry I was looking for.

    I would have been interested to know what people moved onto after their MKIII, and how the new rides compare. So, for anyone else in this predicament I figured I would start this thread.

    I'll start:

    I wanted a bike with around 5" travel with a stable yet playful geometry that was built around a 5" fork. I did not want a high BB. And I wanted it tough. I test rode a SC Nickel, and really liked the feel, though it was expensive and I was not sure I wanted to go back to a high forward SP (I've owned a Superlight and Heckler in the past). However, I really liked the geometry, so I looked for similar numbers.

    I ended up with a 2010 Marin Mount Vision frame. I got it for $650 shipped from Adrenaline Bikes. Built it up with all the parts from the MKIII, except for the front derailleur, seatpost shim, and seat collar.

    It has 120mm rear travel, but in reality it is more like 110. It feels like it has a lot less travel than the MKIII, even though the MKIII is only 125mm (or is it 130?). It's ability to soak up rough trails is limited. It sags very far into it's travel, and the suspension ramps up severely in the second half of the travel, so there is just not left there to absorb the hits. So it is not as stable on high speed bombing, as the rear does not track as well.

    However, it is great on the smaller bumps, and actually handles drops and jumps a little better than the MKIII. It does seem better on twisty swoopy trails with dips and berms, the reduced travel seems to work in my favor there. I am able to pump through sections better. On drops, it works very well. With the MKIII, I could feel it soak up the drop, with the Mt Vision, it feels like the drop never even happened. Several times I have done a drop that I have done for years, then stopped and turned around looking for what had changed, thinking someone must have built a big transition, or made the drop a foot or so less. Nope, same drop.

    I should mention that the MKIII had a PUSHed AVA. Getting the Mt Vision's RP2 PUSHed (or getting a PUSHed Monarch) might close a bit of the performance gap on the rough stuff, and get me the rest of the travel.

    The frame with shock was within 0.1 lb of the MKIII, so the final build was identical in weight. However, the MT Vision feels heavier on climbs. It does have a tad more pedal feedback in the middle ring (not enough to really matter) but in the granny it is noticeable. Steep, rough, granny gear climbs are noticeably better on the MKIII.

    The frame is a LOT stiffer torsionally. Out of the saddle efforts are rewarded on this bike, I never felt like the MKIII did so well there, and I think all the flex in the rear was part of the reason. Despite it feeling a little heavier, this bike feels faster on the flats and rolling singletrack with sprints.

    I was tired of replacing the rear bearings every year on the MKIII, the Mt Vision comes with a lifetime warranty on all of them.

    On the MKIII I either ran the Pike at 140mm most of the time, or used a 15mm externalizer and ran the fork at 125mm most of the time. On the Mt Vision, I run the Pike at 125mm most of the time, and it feels well balanced. The frame was designed around a 120mm Fox Fork (68.5 degree HA), so I figure running the Pike @ 125 puts me somewhere between 67.5 and 68 degree HA (RS run a little longer A2C than Fox),.

    Anyway, here is a pic
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    Santa Cruz Superlight. It doesn't climb quite as well as a DW-Link bike, but does everything else far better than the MKIII did.

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    Trance X2 (although it felt sacreligious to get a Maestro equiped bike after loving DW so much)
    Like many others I found the size of the $$ bundle demanded for a Turner, Ibis or Pivot eyewatering (though they are damn nice bikes)
    The Trance was second hand, I transfered most of my running gear over from my MKIII build - coil Pike U-turn, wheels, X9, but kept the Shimano brakes on X2. Ended up with a bike about 3lbs lighter which was nice.
    What I miss about the MKIII is the rearend stiffening up / resisting squat when clmbing - it always remained active, and just felt like it was helping you up and over obstacles. The Maestro doesn't feel as deeply compliant as DW-Link did, especially when decending on rough terrain.
    I have hankered to get back on a DW-Link bike ever since, but am currently very close to going over to a RIP9. I'm not sure how the CVA will compare with DW-Link. I have been offered a loaner RIP9 later in the year, so will be lucky enough to get a few test rides in before committing.
    ps; nice looking quad link there Kapusta - I always liked them and looked at various discounted Marin frames before buying X2. Have always wondered though how much more metal they would require in that swingarm with it being anchored so far forward in the frame - a lot of distance from anchor/pivot points to axle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedalingkiwi View Post
    ps; nice looking quad link there Kapusta - I always liked them and looked at various discounted Marin frames before buying X2. Have always wondered though how much more metal they would require in that swingarm with it being anchored so far forward in the frame - a lot of distance from anchor/pivot points to axle?
    I think that has a lot to do with why the frame are kind of heavy. My medium Mt Vision frame with the RP2 shock is 7.1 lbs. I little portly for a 120mm frame. It weighs almost the same as my large MKIII frame, but the AVA shock on the MKIII is about 1/3 lb heavier than the RP2 on the Mt Vision. The 2010 model actually lost 200 grams off the rear swingarm from the previous year.

    A tranceX is what I was looking at most seriously before the Marin came along. I did not want to buy used (too many bad experiences with used frames), and the Giants were just too much money for the frame and I could not afford the completes, despite how good of a deal they are.

    I did come close to getting a "discounted" Pivot Mach 5. They were (maybe still are) clearing out the Mach 5's for ~$1,500, but I was not sold on the geometry (69 degree HA with a 140mm fork?) and as I got past the original hyped-up reviews, and onto more comparison reviews, I was getting the feeling they sort of missed the mark on that one. Plus I would have needed a different crankset, and that was just getting into way too much $ for me for a bike that I was not 100% sure about. I did ride a Pivot 429 at a demo day, and it was pretty freaking amazing. I never realized how much every other bike I have ridden flexed until I rode that bike.
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    DW climbing

    Yep, this was the best quality of the IH DW bikes. I test rode a Mojo awhile back it it seemed to have a similar feel, but I didn't spent enough time on it. Has anyone here ridden a Pivot Mach 4 or 5? Does it work like the IH on climbs? Might be my next bike....



    Quote Originally Posted by pedalingkiwi View Post
    What I miss about the MKIII is the rearend stiffening up / resisting squat when clmbing - it always remained active, and just felt like it was helping you up and over obstacles.

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    i went with a Banshee Rune. Got it in white as a tribute to the mk3 that got me into biking. its obviously a bit of an upgrade in overall beef. I figured i broke my first bike and i was getting more and more into the style of riding that broke it, so I wanted something that I could trust

    been riding it for over a year and i love it. I really pimped this thing out with a 2011 fox float 180 (set to 170mm), nice wheels, and some other upgrades so its tough to do a fair comparison on the two bikes. its much much better in every aspect

    also, its prety close to the same weight of my mk3 now that im running single ring up front which also makes a comparison a little hard to do...10x the dh capabilities with same climbing abilities. it feels light...havnt weighed since some recent mods but i think its slightly over 32lbs.

    the rear travel comparison is like night and day; with only 1" more, the Rune feels bottomless while the mk3 felt like it soaked up only the smallest obstacles.

    it features a fairly similar dual linkage design, so it climbs very well. perhaps not quite as efficient as the DW but certainly well enough to not notice the difference

    a huge difference is that the Rune's swingarm is extremely stiff, something you notice the first time you lean the bike over through a fast turn. actually, the stiffness is noticed in all aspects of riding from hammering out of the saddle to plowing through rough terrain.

    the slight additional weight on my rune build is pretty much canceled out in terms of climbing feel because the stiffness transfers all the power to the wheel. it still has that same feeling of "squirting" up steep climbs

    also they are less expensive than some of the comparable dual link options out there, and i actually kindof like the simplicity of the bushing system. they are so easy to service and cost next to nothing

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    2009 specialized enduro. way more travel, way better angles. more tire clearance. clearly better built. not quite as smooth over rough stuff and definitely not close in climbing ability, but the slacker angles make it a hell of a lot more fun. weighs in at around 29lbs. i'm happy. i still compare every climb to how it felt on my mkiii, but i suppose it makes me better in the end,
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    Addendum part 1
    Perhaps I still feel guilty but I ditched my MKIII because she was overweight (not very gentlemanly !!), and it wasn't until I had replaced her and she was on loan to my brother that she broke just above BB / bottom of seatpost (now repaired and running again) With a coil pike, and no lightweight bits, my MKIII weighed 33lbs. She didn't feel or even look heavy, but I just couldn't get it out of my mind there were other skinnier girls out there. I am a shallow man. The X2 sure looks svelte in all black, but in truth I've never loved her like I loved my plain jane grey MKIII

    Addendum part 2
    and I am all over the show trying to decide my next bike, though I know enough to know it will be a 29'r. Initially I focused on RIP9 (a do-it-all bike), lusted after a Sultan or 429, have flirted with Lynskey Ti Ridgeline, then erred back towards RIP9 (and recent furtive looks at Jet9 RDO !!) and today it is Air9 Carbon that has my attention - a 1x9, 100mm fork, 24lb weapon, that would compliment, not replace, the X2. The X2 I'm thinking deserves a lighter fork (dual air revelation?) and better (pushed) shock to realise her potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedalingkiwi View Post
    ..................she broke just above BB / bottom of seatpost (now repaired and running again)
    How did you fix that? Just re-weld it?
    15mm is a second-best solution to a problem that was already solved.

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    I got a replacement mk3 frame on warranty but it had a misaligned rear triangle,so I went to a 2nd hand 2009 mt vision for a short while, just found it too harsh and unable to use all the travel regardless of sag setting.
    I did like the geometry, especially the short rear end and slacker head angle.
    i wouldn't mind trying a wolf ridge,apparently alot plusher.

    I put the horse back together after i found an '08 rear triangle,but had to purchase a new lower link to get it to fit my '05 frame, that exercise cost more than i paid for the marin frame(2nd hand).
    I rode it for a while but i was missing the slacker geometry of the mt vision.
    I came across a cheap commencal meta 5.5 frame, angles looked good so hung up the mk3 again for a while.
    I'm still on the meta, love the geometry, low and slack,especially when i put in a 190x50 shock instead of the stock 200x50.Descending is awesome,climbing is not so great. It's also has more flex than the mk3,but i got used to it very quickly.
    The mk3 is still the best bike i've peddled on rough ground,something just makes it keep accelerating whilst still absorbing the bumps, thats the biggest difference i notice compared to other bikes i've ridden.
    I looked around for another DW bike but even 2nd hand here in oz they're still really expensive.
    Since the inception of anglesets i'm keen to get the mk3 out again,put in a -2 degree set with a 140 fork and see if it makes me smile again.

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    Haven't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiJohn View Post
    Haven't.
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    Won't.
    Yet...
    I hope it stays that way for you
    15mm is a second-best solution to a problem that was already solved.

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    ah, yeah, my brother was lucky enough to know the NZ importer of IH (in their heyday) and he knew an engineer / welder who was able to effect a good repair. Repair made easier by the fact those frames had (as I understand it) a sleeve in the join between BB casting & seatpost. I have ridden her since an she goes fine, plenty of life in her yet (touch wood)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kapusta View Post
    I hope it stays that way for you
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    I replaced my 06 MK3 with a 7-point after I moved out west (needed a slacker head angle anyways).

    My 06 never broke- it just got demoted to backup bike status. Still runnin' strong...
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    i sold my MK3frame and got a GT distortion. will be putting the parts from my old MK3 on the GT as soon as the headset arrives

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    Sorry to derail, but... it makes me a little sad to even have to think of replacing the mkIII. I have only had it for a few years but I ride it several times a week. I know it's immanent but I am in denial.

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    I have to add that I know 3 years is a good lifespan for the MKIII. For anybody wondering I buy into KevinB's theory on the rear axle flex and have had a DTswiss ratchet skewer in since day one.

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    I stayed in the DW family and got an Ibis Mojo - best switch ever as I sold my MKIII while it was good money 2 years ago and got a sweet deal on a used Mojo - it does everything much better (feels similar, climbs great, decend even better as it is a lot stiffer and I have 150 revelation on it, and is much ligher overall).

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    Still rocking my MkIII. No sign of the new bike yeti. Oops.
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    What do you think of a Giant Reign as a replacement for the MKIII. A little bit burlier, but seems like a good possible replacement bike.

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    Just lost my MkIII and I am at loss to for a replacement. Any other similar linkages offered by other companies that do the same job?

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    Just got a virtually brand spanking new 08. Maiden voyage was today and damn. Damndamndamn. I can't believe I ran a faux bar for soooo long. Crossing fingers and buying a through axle for it!
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    Rolling on a 7 point 7 after selling my MkIII. Plush Plush Plush, just have to deal with the 10 extra pounds.

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    trek remedy 2009 ... but still thinking that mkIII is a great frame

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    sb 66. no more dead spot when bunny hopping and stiffer rear triangle.

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    Still waiting for my new bike, looks like Jan now.
    In the mean time, I through some new bearings at the old girl & she's riding like a dream again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kapusta View Post
    I ended up with a 2010 Marin Mount Vision frame. I got it for $650 shipped from Adrenaline Bikes. Built it up with all the parts from the MKIII, except for the front derailleur, seatpost shim, and seat collar.
    Never really got along with the Mt Vision, so after 9 months I sold it and bought the frame I've REALLY been wanting since it came out in 2009: Turner 5-Spot. The killer deals Turner has on the 2011 models coupled with an LBS that was hooking me up for a bunch of trail and advocacy work I've been doing made the price too good to pass up. I've got about 5 rides on it so far. I really like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kapusta View Post
    .. the frame I've REALLY been wanting since it came out in 2009: Turner 5-Spot.
    No what you really want is a carbon Ibis Mojo! ok not the same price range, but the 5-spot picture looks very basic build/cheap frame to me. Even the MKiii had asymmetrical tubing, and curved, where's your pic looks like very basic straight tubes welded, and pre-fab square tubes in the back cut and welded. Very basic by today's standard ALU frames.... but if it rides great, that's what matters!

    I now have a Mojo HD with 160mm travel F/B and 2.4 tires and adjustable seat comes a hair above 29lbs for an XL. Amazing bike... All my buddies ride Specialized stumpjumpers (I think) which are good value, but I'm partial to DW suspensions now. Mojos can be found used for decent prices and the company stands behind it's products like no-one else even if you're not the original owner. I know a few that went from MKiii to mojo for that reason.

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    RIP Adam Yauch

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    Quote Originally Posted by adumesny View Post
    No what you really want is a carbon Ibis Mojo! ok not the same price range, but the 5-spot picture looks very basic build/cheap frame to me. Even the MKiii had asymmetrical tubing, and curved, where's your pic looks like very basic straight tubes welded, and pre-fab square tubes in the back cut and welded. Very basic by today's standard ALU frames.... but if it rides great, that's what matters!

    I now have a Mojo HD with 160mm travel F/B and 2.4 tires and adjustable seat comes a hair above 29lbs for an XL. Amazing bike... All my buddies ride Specialized stumpjumpers (I think) which are good value, but I'm partial to DW suspensions now. Mojos can be found used for decent prices and the company stands behind it's products like no-one else even if you're not the original owner. I know a few that went from MKiii to mojo for that reason.
    From your comments, I'm guessing you don't anything about the 5-Spot or Turner, do you?

    BTW, the build was from my last bike, so it would look identical on the Mojo. Also, I have not often heard Flow rims, Hope hubs, a PUSHed fork, GD seatpost, Answer Protaper Carbon bar, speedplay pedals, and XT/X9 drivetrain referred to as "cheap" build.
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    mojos are ugly
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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine View Post
    mojos are ugly
    I love how he recommends the Ibis over the Turner and uses the DW-Link and good customer service as his reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine View Post
    mojos are ugly
    To each it's own... but the 5-spot build reminds me of the '05 IH I'm trying to sell - even my MKIII had nicer frame build IMO (now strength especially rear is another story .

    And kapusta, yes I do know about turner - they have a great reputation, I just find the build look very 90' styles that's all... exposed welding, straight tubes.


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    exposed welding is so 90's
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    Quote Originally Posted by adumesny View Post
    To each it's own... but the 5-spot build reminds me of the '05 IH I'm trying to sell - even my MKIII had nicer frame build IMO (now strength especially rear is another story .

    And kapusta, yes I do know about turner - they have a great reputation, I just find the build look very 90' styles that's all... exposed welding, straight tubes.
    No, you really don't know much about it other than looking at my picture. You clearly don't know anything about the 5-spot, and have never checked one out in the flesh. FYI It DOES have asymmetric chain stays (though I don't understand why you thought that would have been a minus if it did not), and there is loads of CNC work all over the linkage and rear end. WAY more refined than the curved tubing on the MKIII.

    Not sure what you mean by "build", if you are saying that your MKIII frame was a higher quality frame, you are on crack. There is no comparison, not even sort of close.

    You talk about "pre-fab tubes welded together".... what else do you think every builder of a metal frame uses for tubing? AFAIK, Giant is the only bike company that makes tubing from ore. And yes, it is welded together.... how else would you assemble an aluminum frame like that? Lugged? Your comment was absurd on so many levels

    FWIW I like the welds and straight tubes (if anything, I think the Mojos are a little goofy looking) but really, that's a pretty asinine way to choose a frame. The goofy looks of the Mojo would not affect my opinion of it.

    Also, what did you mean by these frames not being in the same price range? They are pretty comparable in price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine View Post
    exposed welding is so 90's
    I'll send the memo to Pivot.
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    Turner Bikes - Turner 5.Spot Chassis

    I look at the frame and see a lot of straight off the shelf tubing (I'm sure they are tapered) welded together with yes custom pieces, but the build looks very basic to me. Look at carbon frames and how fluid they are and 1 piece design with no weak joints. Even some manufacturers are making ALU frames that are fluid and appear seamless connected (specialized, Santa Cruz)

    I'm just saying...

    Whoa, you're right about the price: at $2500 frame it's actually more than carbon mojos as it doesn't include the upgraded Kashima FOX RP23, which they do at that price. And likely to be heavier than the 5-5.2lbs carbon frames complete, and ALU is bridle over time, not so for carbon, which is also stronger...

    check this Santa Cruz crush test if you don't believe me.
    Santa Cruz Bicycles - Test Lab - Pinkbike.com

    Anyway I'm done... enjoy your bike because that's what matters at the end...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adumesny View Post
    Turner Bikes - Turner 5.Spot Chassis

    I look at the frame and see a lot of straight off the shelf tubing (I'm sure they are tapered) welded together with yes custom pieces, but the build looks very basic to me. Look at carbon frames and how fluid they are and 1 piece design with no weak joints. Even some manufacturers are making ALU frames that are fluid and appear seamless connected (specialized, Santa Cruz)

    I'm just saying...

    Whoa, you're right about the price: at $2500 frame it's actually more than carbon mojos as it doesn't include the upgraded Kashima FOX RP23, which they do at that price. And likely to be heavier than the 5-5.2lbs carbon frames complete, and ALU is bridle over time, not so for carbon, which is also stronger...

    check this Santa Cruz crush test if you don't believe me.
    Santa Cruz Bicycles - Test Lab - Pinkbike.com

    Anyway I'm done... enjoy your bike because that's what matters at the end...
    neither of us paid $2500 for the frame, though i suppose you came close to that sum. anyway, my 26lb bike is different than your 26lb bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adumesny View Post
    Turner Bikes - Turner 5.Spot Chassis

    I look at the frame and see a lot of straight off the shelf tubing (I'm sure they are tapered) welded together with yes custom pieces, but the build looks very basic to me. Look at carbon frames and how fluid they are and 1 piece design with no weak joints. Even some manufacturers are making ALU frames that are fluid and appear seamless connected (specialized, Santa Cruz)

    I'm just saying...

    Whoa, you're right about the price: at $2500 frame it's actually more than carbon mojos as it doesn't include the upgraded Kashima FOX RP23, which they do at that price. And likely to be heavier than the 5-5.2lbs carbon frames complete, and ALU is bridle over time, not so for carbon, which is also stronger...

    check this Santa Cruz crush test if you don't believe me.
    Santa Cruz Bicycles - Test Lab - Pinkbike.com

    Anyway I'm done... enjoy your bike because that's what matters at the end...
    It is increasingly clear that you don't know much about frames other than what looks pretty to you.

    When you see an AL bike without welds (like my Mt Vision), they've just filled them in. With welds as gorgeous as this, there is no need to hide them.

    BTW, Aluminum Santa Cruz bikes have exposed welds.

    I also question how much you understand about shocks, other than what fox is telling you. Turner is specing the RL because he feels it is actually a better shock for that bike. If you look past the shiny little bits being shaken in front of you, you might understand why, especially seeing as you ride a DW-Link bike. Look around these boards and you will find many that are not happy with the new boost valve shocks (which the RP3 is). Heck, the first thing PUSH does to those shocks is remove it altogether.

    Anyway, I am not about to go into a debate on CF vs AL (they are both fine), or 5-Spot vs Mojo (again, both top notch bikes). What I am taking you to task for is not knowing what you are talking about in regards to the spot and frames in general, NOT whether or not the Mojo is a better bike frame. If you like your Mojo, then enjoy it. It is a sexy (to some), lightweight frame. Don't worry about Turners because there is no way that someone who is gram-obsessed, who gets swept up in the latest marketing gimmicks, and who cares whether his bike is properly curved and weld-free for the 2012 fashion/riding season , is going to understand the appeal.
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    15mm is a second-best solution to a problem that was already solved.

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    hey saturnine, i thought you were on a specy? Hows the 5spot compare? I know you said you couldn't notice the difference when you swapped over, but can you now?

    I won't get into the debate, but a few friends had to reTurner their turners. Took awhile to get ahold of them, but in the end they made it right! It was the taco joint or whatever its called, and a seat tube crack.

    I put some time in on a 5spot...I liked it! I think push makes rockers for it right, or was that the pre dw ones?

    I'm still going strong on my mojo. I've put close to 5k on it. Came with full x0, carbon bits galore, and industry nine wheels for cheaper than....anything frame-only I was looking at. I will say I like how ibis covers me for warranty stuff. I scored and love the bike!

    After a replaced rear and now front tri, the mkiii still sits in the corner. It's got x9/x0 bits, a push'd rear and some nicer wheels. It's kinda the "loaner" bike and really got my gf into riding.

    It's funny how we all started on the same bike, loved the **** out of it, alllll broke them, and then moved onto some seriously badass bikes. I'd be happy to own anything in this thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmr2_man View Post
    hey saturnine, i thought you were on a specy? Hows the 5spot compare? I know you said you couldn't notice the difference when you swapped over, but can you now?

    I won't get into the debate, but a few friends had to reTurner their turners. Took awhile to get ahold of them, but in the end they made it right! It was the taco joint or whatever its called, and a seat tube crack.

    I put some time in on a 5spot...I liked it! I think push makes rockers for it right, or was that the pre dw ones?

    I'm still going strong on my mojo. I've put close to 5k on it. Came with full x0, carbon bits galore, and industry nine wheels for cheaper than....anything frame-only I was looking at. I will say I like how ibis covers me for warranty stuff. I scored and love the bike!

    After a replaced rear and now front tri, the mkiii still sits in the corner. It's got x9/x0 bits, a push'd rear and some nicer wheels. It's kinda the "loaner" bike and really got my gf into riding.

    It's funny how we all started on the same bike, loved the **** out of it, alllll broke them, and then moved onto some seriously badass bikes. I'd be happy to own anything in this thread!
    i was on an enduro for a little over a year. it was kind of a different beast than either of the dw bikes. i did everything on it but it was low, slack and aggressive. i would say at the time i didn't really notice a difference but i think that because i progressed so much as a rider over the year, my capabilities just worked with the bike. the differences i notice now are stiffness and traction.i do remember certain things from my mkii, though. it feels like i never left it now. however, my build is way different. i've lost probably 4-5lbs off the build and it just feels to me less capable. not that i have any doubts about what it can handle, rather that i wouldn't think twice about shuttling at the park with the enduro whereas the spot will not be a park bike. i'm not smooth or capable enough for it to bail me out.

    the frame itself actually feels like a piece of art. every time i look at it i notice something new. it feels special. my enduro was just another bike. it was really only a placeholder until i could work a turner into my budget. i lusted after it since 2009. it was my dream bike. as you say, we all fell in love with the same bike and it let us all down.
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    Here is my ugly replacement bike w/ cheap components...


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    Quote Originally Posted by zerkmxl View Post
    Here is my ugly replacement bike w/ cheap components...
    Hey, it's not so bad. At least it does not have exposed welds.
    15mm is a second-best solution to a problem that was already solved.

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    I still have my 2007 MKIII. Still runs like a champ. Granted various parts have been upgraded, replaced due to wear or breaks, etc. Weighs in at about 27lbs and change. I can't bring myself to replace it since other DW-Link bikes are $$$$$$$$

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    they're cheaper than you might think, especially used.

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    I subscribed to the "maybe I need a heavier duty bike with more travel or at least find a bike with much fatter chain stays theory"... and found a Scott Ransom carbon frame on EBay for an absolute bargin!

    The geometry is far better than my 2008 model MKIII and it's obviously more plush thanks to the extra travel... but I do miss the MKIII's active rear travel under braking... the Ransom is a faux link so it firms up when braking.
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    Hi everyone,
    Good to know that the IH forum is still alive esp the MKIII.
    I still have my MKIII tho, although i have stopped riding since 2 years ago and recently just started. Called the old gang for a ride and they are now on the 27.5, turner burner.
    They climbed effortless and fast on the decent. I'm impressed. However like everyone else, the price of the new DW link frames are expensive esp the 27.5

    My regular shop has a stock clearance and selling the yeti 575 carbon chain stay for $1k and the turner 5 spot for $1.3k. Would anyone move from MKIII to Yeti 575? I'm more towards all mountain riding,going over some stones and roots but no higher than 3ft jump.

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    anyone??

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