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    Thoughts on KHS bikes

    There is no KHS forum (or am I blind), so I was wondering if people could give me any info, reviews, etc on their bikes.

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    Sadly no KHS forum, but I have softtail Comp ST and love it. Decent components, good frame and good price. Check out the virtual tradeshow booth from Interbike.

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    thoughts conjure up a magazine ad campaign a couple years back that wasnt bad--their campaign in the brit mags was even better.

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    KHS is only the best bikes ever! Seriously. They are. What do you want to know about them? I ride all KHS's, and in my shop we sell nothing but KHS. What bike are you looking at?
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    i've heard nothing but good things about KHS bikes and an old riding buddy of mine was very happy with his.
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    My SS hardtail is a 1999 KHS alite frame I love it.
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    their bikes are nothing special, taiwan catalog frames. however, their customer service is deplorable. some of the worst CS I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with.

    I eventually threw my FR2000 frame into the dumpster, because I was tired of getting nowhere with them. Of course I mangled the living daylights out of the frame before I discarded of it.

    things to watch out for as far as the frames go...crappy mounting hardware for suspension components, bearing wear out fast (6 months, c'mon) and ovalized headtubes (even on new, never ridden frames).

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    We bought a KHS XC504 frame for my wife and built it up with a combination of parts from her old FS frame and a bunch of new stuff.

    She has gotten a lot of use out of it and it has worked well. Our dealings with KHS customer service went very well.

    There is a pic of her bike just after we built it up in this thread:
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...73708#poststop

    Quite a few parts have changed since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red5
    their bikes are nothing special, taiwan catalog frames. however, their customer service is deplorable. some of the worst CS I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with.

    I eventually threw my FR2000 frame into the dumpster, because I was tired of getting nowhere with them. Of course I mangled the living daylights out of the frame before I discarded of it.

    things to watch out for as far as the frames go...crappy mounting hardware for suspension components, bearing wear out fast (6 months, c'mon) and ovalized headtubes (even on new, never ridden frames).
    Why so much hate with KHS? It's true that their customer service sucks! The guy who answers the phone at tech support isn't very helpful (would rather not elaborate); and their designs are not ground breaking, but the frame that I got ('04 KHS FR2000) has been holding up pretty well. Even with my heavy weight, aggressive riding, and rather tall fork, the head tube is still flawless. There are no creaks with the sealed bearings at all pivot points, and still no cracks ( even with occassional 6 foot to flat drops and fast rock garden runs with multiple hits )

    You can tell from the picture that I did invest considerably expensive and heavy duty parts on a rather inexpensive frame because the frame looks beefy enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beolin
    Sadly no KHS forum, but I have softtail Comp ST and love it. Decent components, good frame and good price. Check out the virtual tradeshow booth from Interbike.
    I just got a Solo One SS.

    My friend had a Comp ST. I rode it and liked it. Does KHS still offer the Comp ST or do they sell a Comp ST frameset? I see the police bike looks like the Comp ST!

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    Ive built up a standard xc204 frame that I bought off line for next to nothing, rides well and has been a great bike. My dad rides an 04 XC904 w/ the original Horst link in the back. Really rides better than my 204 w/ the pivot on the seatstay. Yet, he did crack his triangle in 05, sent back to KHS on Monday and by Friday he had a new frame, no questions ask. Plus, got a t-shirt, jersey, water bottle, and a few stickers.
    Ive heard bad things about the customer service, but I have had many inquires w/ them and I have always had good experience.
    Last year I had a bad bearing on my 204, they sent me all new replacment bearings plus hardware, no cost, no questions. So they are good in my book.

    Goodluck.

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    Fr2000

    I've had a 2003 FR2000 frame for a couple seasons now. I have it speced out with a 888, bombshell crusher wheels, e-13 guide, etc. I really like the feel of the bike, but I don't trust the frame. I've broken the chainstay and got a new one warrantied. I also broke an xc504 before I turned into a pure DHer. They warrantied that and I upgraded to the FR2000. They do stand behind their products, but their service isn't the greatest. For the price, KHS is worth it, but I would recommend buying a brand with better service. I went with an Evil DOC for my dirt jumper- GREAT bike. Just my thoughts, happy biking!

    PS. If you would like an FR2000, I'd like to sell my frame and upgrade. I got more pics if your interested.

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    xc904r and love it. Haven't had to deal with KHS for any issues, so I can't answer to that. Isn't that what LBS's are for?

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    Yeah the LBS is great for that and every other reason, but they can't change the fact that it took 5 months for my chainstay to get warrantied. Then again KHS was probably wondering how I destroy things so...

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    Anyone know the eye to eye shock length for the khs am 2000? If you could help me out that would be awesome. thanks

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    dont know about the newer models but KHS bikes are well know for making great riding bikes that costs almost half the price of the competition while being just as good.

    i had two KHS bikes, one alite team and one alite 4000, both high end frames, SUPERB handling, stiff, strong and CHEAP, thats the problem with KHS bikes, its too cheap and thats why people dont give the brand the credit its deserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j_c_s4
    Anyone know the eye to eye shock length for the khs am 2000? If you could help me out that would be awesome. thanks
    My '05 AM2000's shock measures 7.5" X 2"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevhogaz
    My '05 AM2000's shock measures 7.5" X 2"
    Thats what I was guessing. I just picked up an AM2000 on e-bay so i just wanted to make sure I got the right size shock for it. What shock are you running on yours? I found a pretty sweet deal on dhx 5.0 air, would that be good for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by j_c_s4
    Thats what I was guessing. I just picked up an AM2000 on e-bay so i just wanted to make sure I got the right size shock for it. What shock are you running on yours? I found a pretty sweet deal on dhx 5.0 air, would that be good for it?

    I was thinking about getting a DHX air, but after reading the reviews on it, I think I'll pass. Right now, I'm using the stock DHX3.0, and I'll have to wait, and see how it works, before I decide if I'm gonna get rid of it, or not. There's so many shock choices out there, it's almost painful trying to decide on a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcballer52
    I've had a 2003 FR2000 frame for a couple seasons now. I have it speced out with a 888, bombshell crusher wheels, e-13 guide, etc. I really like the feel of the bike, but I don't trust the frame. I've broken the chainstay and got a new one warrantied. I also broke an xc504 before I turned into a pure DHer. They warrantied that and I upgraded to the FR2000. They do stand behind their products, but their service isn't the greatest. For the price, KHS is worth it, but I would recommend buying a brand with better service. I went with an Evil DOC for my dirt jumper- GREAT bike. Just my thoughts, happy biking!

    PS. If you would like an FR2000, I'd like to sell my frame and upgrade. I got more pics if your interested.

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    I was about to do the same build. Spec the FR2000 with an 888 and Bombshell Crusher wheels. Reason i hesitated is because of weight & manueverability reasons, that is why I settled for a 66 / Deetraks combo.

    2 of my buddies both have the '03 FR2000. One had a '04 Boxxer Ride and the other had an '04 Jr.T. We normally ride together and we do catch attention because they thought we're from Team KHS.

    Did you still trail ride your bike? Can you still climb with it? How did you break the chainstay? It looks a monster on the downhills.

    Nice bike!!!
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    I've had nothing but positive to report with KHS. Great components on their builds and the pricing is beyond fair. Take a look at the 2007 XC line, damn Horst Links on all of them and prices that start at like $700

    http://www.khsbicycles.com/03_xc_series_07.htm
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    I bought an '07 XC team (904r) in November and the thing rocks. I suggest ditching the Nevegals, however, because they slip sideways without warning and the weak sidewalls give under any lateral load. The shock bolt rattles when unweighted and weighted in rapid succession, but the Horst Link design is amazing as are the Avid hydraulic discs. The pedal bob is slightly annoying but the pop-loc dual helps to mitigate the effects. A much overlooked bike builder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickgto
    I was about to do the same build. Spec the FR2000 with an 888 and Bombshell Crusher wheels. Reason i hesitated is because of weight & manueverability reasons, that is why I settled for a 66 / Deetraks combo.

    2 of my buddies both have the '03 FR2000. One had a '04 Boxxer Ride and the other had an '04 Jr.T. We normally ride together and we do catch attention because they thought we're from Team KHS.

    Did you still trail ride your bike? Can you still climb with it? How did you break the chainstay? It looks a monster on the downhills.

    Nice bike!!!
    As far as climbing goes, I avoid at all costs. If I know I'm gonna climb for some odd reason, I ride my Evil. The KHS beast weighs 47lbs. The chainstay broke while I was just riding along. Seriously. But I know I landed a 5 foot drop a little rough earlier. I think it just snapped because of the fact that aluminum kinda sucks and stress fractures after a long while. It's gonna get replaced by a Dark Scarab (steel :-) ) frame once I find some cash under a rock or something. Oh and yeah, it's a monster on the DH. The 44T chainring makes for some interesting gear ratios. Not great acceleration, but very very high top end. I don't do normal trail riding much anymore, mostly just DH and freeriding. And to continue with my bad writing flow, your spec is actually what I was shooting for, but when the 66 closeouts sold out before I could buy, I got the 888, got carried away, and built a frankenstein of a bike. aaaand thats almost my life story, haha.

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    anybody own a KHS DJ 100 frame

    or any of their dirt jump bikes? the frames are going very cheap online and I thought about building one up to learn dj and to use in the skate park.
    here is on on jenson
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    I just bought that frame for my son and he loves it. It is a very solid frame.
    I also just bought the 07 XC 604 and am very pleased with it.
    For the wife I bought a left over 06 XC 104 and she likes it waaaayy better then her Trek hard tail she had, but that is mostly becuase of the FS. Very happy family with the KHS bikes.

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    I just purchased an '06 AM2000. So far I'm pleased with it. I can definately feel the difference on the climbs compared to my GF Sugar 1 though. I feel more confident and make up time on the way down. Seems to be a pretty well made bike with good components for reasonable price.

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    I ride a 2006 dh200, the one all of the team guys ride, and it owns every trail I have ridden. It beats the crap out of most other dh frames. The linkage is so adjustable you can tune it for each course.

    As for their customer service it is great. I cracked my 2005 am1000 on the downtube and sent it in with no shock and since they didn't have another am1000 in my size they sent me a 2004 fr1500 with a brand new rear shock because they felt bad because the frame was a year older so I had 2 shocks. They didn't even ask how I cracked the frame.

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    It's nice to read all the positive experiences you have all had with KHS. I am likely going to buy a XC 704 in a few days and came across this thread. Are they KHS frames comfortable to ride? I have an older rocky mountain and by the end of the day my back kills me.

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    The 704 looks like an awesome ride! It fits in nicely with the rest of their lineup. I should be getting my XC-909 anyday, I can't wait!

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    Their 2007 XC line is seriously vast (and priced to kill). Here is an article that says it all:
    http://www.mountainbiketales.com/articles/khs507.htm
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    I have a x204 and its been a great bike. I swapped out the crap shock for a good air shock and it rides like a dream. The frame is beefy but not heavy, and is a great 4-link design. Yea, it may be made in Taiwan, but what isn't??? FYI - I bought my frame from JensonUSA for a couple hundred bucks and built it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 65Matt
    I have a x204 and its been a great bike
    What is weight of this frame/bike?

    One more question: Are the frames of XC104, 204, 604 absolutely identical in 2007?

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    I weighed it on the bathroom scale at 29 and some change, but I dont know how accurate that was. I've got discs, XT stuff, no real weight weenie parts, air shock.

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    I just had my XC704r fail and it happened in the same place it happened on my FXT comp..

    The weld at the top tube/ seat tube junction cracked across the top. I've never done anything out of bounds for either bike... KHS hooked me up with the 704r after the FXT failed.. Now I'm waiting to hear from the LBS about them hopefully replacing my 704r..

    I think it's a design issue because if you look at the newer models of this frame they've added that support bracket to the top..

    Anyhow. I love how the bike rode and I love KHS.. Esp if they keep coming good on their warranty!
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    My first KHS

    I've had my '06 AM 2000 for 2 months now, and the bike is just awesome. The bike seems to be very well built, and holds up to my abuse just fine. I think that KHS gets a bad rap because most of their bikes are catalog frames, but it doesn't really matter if the bike does what it was designed to do. This bike represents it's All Mountain namesake to a T. I'll be keeping her for a good long time! Here she is!
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    Is your shock on upside down? KHS never mounts their shock like that?


    I just got mynew XC604 frame and got her built up on the 7th. All I have to say is wow. This bike handles amazingly and is lighter than it looks. I've got it built up at 27 pounds right now, but I'll gain an extra bit of weight when my outlaws come in.

    I love KHS.. they have great customer service and nice people working for them.
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    Yup

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    Is your shock on upside down? KHS never mounts their shock like that?


    I just got mynew XC604 frame and got her built up on the 7th. All I have to say is wow. This bike handles amazingly and is lighter than it looks. I've got it built up at 27 pounds right now, but I'll gain an extra bit of weight when my outlaws come in.

    I love KHS.. they have great customer service and nice people working for them.
    Yes my shock is on upside down. The air valve on the Roco protrudes at a point where it hits the rocker if I mount it right side up in every setting except 6". I would also have to unbolt the shock from the rocker just to pump air into it, as there isn't enough space between the rocker and air valve to thread the pump valve on. I know, I wasn't really thrilled by the look of the shock upside down, but it works fine, and I can still reach the adjustments. My frame originally came with a Rock Shox Pearl, but I ordered the Roco instead. Maybe the Pearl doesn't have these clearance problems, and thats why the KHS website photos show the shock mounted right side up? Glad to hear you like your new steed, I certainly love mine. Wish my bike was under 30 lbs! She weighs in at 36 lbs, but is built for a 240 lb rider. Have a good one

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    Not a dualie, but still a good bike. Probably the oldest frame in this thread.
    My '96 Alite 3000 is working and getting me to and from work as my commuter frame, but I take it out once and a while and ride it in the foothills. Loaned it to a friend for a race last month. It's been rebuilt now twice and I don't want to get rid of it. The frame is starting to flex a little, but that's not bad for these bones.

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    I weighed my bike and it's 27lbs or so on a bathroom scale. Tell ya what... my 2 other bikes were 30ish so this is a nice refreshing change!

    Glad you figured out the clearance for the shock before you went bombing down a hill.. could have been a mess!
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    I own an 05 KHS xc604 and the frame has held up great even under my fat clyde ass.

    Sadly the same can't be said for the rest of the bike, I destroyed the pedals after 2 miles (some crap SPD knockoffs - don't even know why they ship with them) and I've blown the forks twice (Rock Shox Pilot SLs).

    All in all it was not enough bike for me, I'm just too big a guy for what is essentially an entry level cross country machine, that said, I certainly don't hold KHS at fault for it, I'm just too big a guy for the machine - the place I got it from is big on customer service and they've done me and my friends some awesome deals on machines;

    One friend got a screaming deal on a KHS Team, X.0 (not X.9 like the website says), $2k even, remote lockout, total weight of like 26.5 lbs, how can you not like that? The other got a full S-Works FSR buildup with XT gear for $1600.

    KHS are vastly underrated bikes, it staggers me that GT/Schwinn/Mongoose get a forum and KHS don't

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    I just built this badboy last week. I bought the frame (2007) and fox float from the local bike shop then added the other goodies. I did 2 rides this weekend totaling 30 miles and it rides like a caddy.... Last night I put on black grips and added a hope brake line guide to the fork.

    Race Face Atlas crank and carbon bars, Rockshox Duke SL100 fork, Fox Float R3, Thomson stem and seatpost, Avid BB7 brakes, Hope skewers, seatpost clamp and brake line guide, XT front and rear derailluers and Shifters, Cane Creek brake levers, Single track barends, WTB rocket V seat, Mavic 717 rims with DT double butted spokes laced to Hope Pro II hubs and Time Z pedals,




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    Well Well.. here is my XC604.. Looks a lot like yours!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Proformance Cycle
    I just got a Solo One SS.
    I just ordered one of these for my wife, they have a HUGE sale on them right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanner
    The 704 looks like an awesome ride! It fits in nicely with the rest of their lineup. I should be getting my XC-909 anyday, I can't wait!
    Where did you get your 909? Did you happen to weigh the frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonyisdope
    KHS is only the best bikes ever! Seriously. They are. What do you want to know about them? I ride all KHS's, and in my shop we sell nothing but KHS. What bike are you looking at?

    Does AM 1000 or AM 2000 (year 2007) have vbrake boss ?

    I hope they don't! I'm planning to buy a cheap AM 1000 and go XTR/Fox/Thomson on it.

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    I know this is an old thread but MAN!!! You guys are making this look more and more like the frame to get for a build up.
    Does anyone have a size chart for it? The one on the website isn't working. I haven't been able to find an LBS down here in FLA that carries them but I did find online at Bob's Bikes for 499.00. Has anyone seen any other deals out there?
    Thanks in advance for you help and thanks for the sweet pics!!!

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    I really enjoy my steel Comp ST. Geometry makes for quick, single track steering but high speed cornering is a bit twitchy. The seating position was too agressive for me so I got a shorter stem and riser bars. I'd buy another KHS.
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    Just picked up an xc004 for about 4 bills brand new. Last one on the floor too. Not bad for a $700 bike. Seeing how it's the same frame as the higher end models, I'll upgrade the fork and shock as time progresses. Only thing I've done to it so far is put a 550# spring in place of the 750#. I'm only 130# 5'5".

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