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    First Glimpses of New XC Bike

    As speculated, we have a new addition to our line-up set to debut at Interbike to fill the gap in our XC/Epic/Marathon type bikes.

    This bike falls more in the XC category versus the AM/FR feel of our other bikes. The frame with shock weighs under 6 lbs. It is meant for somebody who wants a little less bike than the XCL and EVO offer - but still wants a bike that will be stiff, handles well, and feels plush.

    It will also offer some new features as well - including a carbon rear end, asymmetrical chainstay yoke, butted hydroformed tubes, and anodized hardware. The price point will also be higher than the XCL and EVO - closer to $2,000.00.

    Here is a sneak peek.
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    What kind of travel does it have..? 4"?

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    oh so nice.
    I like the ride anodized accents. Will they be standard?.
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    Very nice!!!!

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    Wow, that's hawt! Even with a 50mm DH stem : }
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    Good job!

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    ooooooo... thats hot!

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    Love the ergonomically correct top tube for proper hand fit when lifting the bike over obstacles.

    That is such a sweet suspension set up.
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    Nice!!!!

    That is one SWEET lookin' Chumba!!!!!!

    So, does this mean that the next generation of XCL's & EVO's are going to have some hydroforming as well? The new hardtail and this new XC-XCL kinda look like different bike lines.

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    How about some deets.

    Rear Travel?

    Angles?
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    That looks really nice! Just got my xcl though, so I'm not intrested... (yeah right)

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    That's HOTTTTTT!!!

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    me likes...

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    WOW!!! that's gorgeous.. Is that the new XCL? Will it be avalible with out the carbon stays? Because Mongo no like carbon... It makes Mongo scared...

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    Nice!

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    That decides it

    I wasn't sure about goint to interbike before, that that cinches it, I am there this year.
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    I'm surprised some pictures from Dirt Demo haven't shown up yet.

    Anyways..I took this pic when I borrowed a prototype for a few days. No paint, ano or logos on it. This is a size L.
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    nice one!

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    It really does look good. How's the ride compared to a xcl?

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    Nice! I'm wondering if they went with the 2.25 stroke shock or if it's an option like on the standard XCL. Also, what colors are available? I love the orange metallic of my current XCL but I'd go with white if it's available. The first pic shown with the black ano is too "Giant Trance" like for my tastes. I wonder if the anodized hardware will be available in other colors as well. A white frame with blue hardware and my blue Hope/ Stans wheelset would look awesome!

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    I believe that is still a 7.875 x 2 shock. I'm not sure what kind of colors will be offered, but I think it looks rather striking in the "raw" form.

    Compared to the XCL, it's just as stiff laterally. I was afraid the carbon might flex, but it holds up just fine. The carbon rear end seems to soak up some of the smaller vibrations too so the ride will feel is a little more "dampened" - although I'm not sure if that's a good word. Basically, you don't feel as much trail buzz, how's that?

    Otherwise it's pretty much a lighter XCL. I believe all the angles and geometry are very similar, if not the same. I wouldn't want to take any big drops or jumps on this, but I'm led to believe it'll handle normal trail duty just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorep
    The first pic shown with the black ano is too "Giant Trance" like for my tastes.
    Strange how peoples aesthetical opinions of bikes differ, the second pic looks extraordinarily like a Titus ML to me and I don’t see even a tiny resemblance of a Trance in either pic but it looks sweet all the same.

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    My buddy has a matte black X2 and the finish plus the hydroformed tubes on the new XCL are similar. Definitely not comparing it to a Trance in any form other than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubjay
    I believe that is still a 7.875 x 2 shock. I'm not sure what kind of colors will be offered, but I think it looks rather striking in the "raw" form.

    Compared to the XCL, it's just as stiff laterally. I was afraid the carbon might flex, but it holds up just fine. The carbon rear end seems to soak up some of the smaller vibrations too so the ride will feel is a little more "dampened" - although I'm not sure if that's a good word. Basically, you don't feel as much trail buzz, how's that?

    Otherwise it's pretty much a lighter XCL. I believe all the angles and geometry are very similar, if not the same. I wouldn't want to take any big drops or jumps on this, but I'm led to believe it'll handle normal trail duty just fine.
    No "damped" makes perfect sense to me. Funny how the "en" always get thrown in there though. Like how "damping" gets referred to as "dampening" although it's incorrect suspension lingo. Sorry, I'm a moto geek so please forgive me.

    The rest of your info is great news. I was expecting more of a Yeti 575/SC BLT-2 fighter with this design. Lighter weight and an increase in travel was what I was hoping for. Either way it's going to stack up well against the competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubjay
    I'm surprised some pictures from Dirt Demo haven't shown up yet.

    Anyways..I took this pic when I borrowed a prototype for a few days. No paint, ano or logos on it. This is a size L.
    wow... that looks so sick!!! love the red shock bolts too... Bet she would shred some 4X and DS nicely as well... Hmmmmmmm

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    So when will the anodized hardware and new linkage be available for current XCL owners?

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    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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    Quote Originally Posted by kinopresident
    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    FANTASTIC:.........
    omg... need more tissues... XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubjay
    I believe that is still a 7.875 x 2 shock. I'm not sure what kind of colors will be offered, but I think it looks rather striking in the "raw" form.

    Compared to the XCL, it's just as stiff laterally. I was afraid the carbon might flex, but it holds up just fine. The carbon rear end seems to soak up some of the smaller vibrations too so the ride will feel is a little more "dampened" - although I'm not sure if that's a good word. Basically, you don't feel as much trail buzz, how's that?

    Otherwise it's pretty much a lighter XCL. I believe all the angles and geometry are very similar, if not the same. I wouldn't want to take any big drops or jumps on this, but I'm led to believe it'll handle normal trail duty just fine.

    Sounds like a Motolite to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinopresident
    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    FANTASTIC:.........

    I was thinking Motolite but that looks even cleaner. No seat brace but still looks really sturdy. Really well done. 2009 looks to be a great year to buy a bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinopresident
    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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    Bike looks great! It's going to come down to colors as to whether I buy a new one or not. Petty, I know, But I just don't like the blue, black, or red frames I've seen so far. Raw, white, or orange and I'll be all over it.

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    OhhhYaaaa she has some very nice legs
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    Hey Chumba guys, how about some numbers fer crissakes!

    Thanks for the review dubjay. Do you think it has similar travel to an XCL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack Dave
    Hey Chumba guys, how about some numbers fer crissakes!

    Thanks for the review dubjay. Do you think it has similar travel to an XCL?
    Yes, I believe the VF2 has 5" of travel just like the XCL. Supposedly has the exact same geometry numbers as well.

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    horrible placement of that rear wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy_ending
    horrible placement of that rear wheel.
    you mean the rear wheel is supposed to go on the fork???

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    Any other manufacturers you can think of that have a lower-travel bike cost more than their bigger AM bikes?
    I'm loving the look and vibe of this bike, but the ML frames will be $400 less than these, so we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-XC-Justin
    Any other manufacturers you can think of that have a lower-travel bike cost more than their bigger AM bikes?
    I'm loving the look and vibe of this bike, but the ML frames will be $400 less than these, so we'll see.
    CF for the rear, I understand the price for and process of CF are becoming more realistic there is always a cost for something. Possibly the expected sales VS tooling created a problem with pricing, the DH frame has been around awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-XC-Justin
    Any other manufacturers you can think of that have a lower-travel bike cost more than their bigger AM bikes?
    I'm loving the look and vibe of this bike, but the ML frames will be $400 less than these, so we'll see.
    Doesn't this have the same amount of travel as the XCL? Or are you comparing to the Evo which is a completly different bike...

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    Vf2, Xcl, Hx1, Hx2

    With the VF2 Chumba Racing targets a whole new demographic of riders. The frame with shock weighs approximately 5.8 pounds and is targeted at the XC racing sector and for those who appreciate a very light XC bike with 5 inches of travel in the rear. The bike features thick wrapped carbon stays providing the strength Chumba is known for while taking into consideration the issues of carbon durability by wrapping the base Carbon with an extra coat to counter potential weakening due to contact with obstacles.

    The XCL features stays with metal struts, huge solid forged blocks of aluminum (where the seat stay and the chain stay connect to the suspension and bottom bracket) providing unparalleled rigidity/strength/stiffness. This configuration provides amazing performance allowing riders to enjoy the most aggressive single track trails, dual slalom, or ride free style absorbing the punishment created by large jumps.

    These are two very different bikes engineered for different riding conditions. The correct bike is always the one that best fits your goals and riding style. With the addition of the HX1 26er and HX2 29er (equipped with eccentric bottom bracket) we offer three new categories for riders to enjoy. No replacements, just offering more variety.

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    Lighter weight = higher cost.

    I would say that the hydroforming, carbon fiber and all the other weight saving ideas that have gone into the design would justify the cost. To save the weight and keep up durability takes more creativity.

    The big hit bikes would need strength designing as well but heavier gauge tubing and the weight gains that they would produce are less of an issue. IMO.

    Besides, how much does a Ti bolt cost compared to steel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropadrop
    Doesn't this have the same amount of travel as the XCL? Or are you comparing to the Evo which is a completly different bike...
    Have we heard definitely that the new bike has the same 5" as the XCL? I've read some assumptions but not confirmation.

    And I guess I was just thinking it's a smaller bike which again in most (if not all) bike lines is less $$ than the bigger bikes. I know they've put in design time, hydroforming, CF stays etc, so I guess I'm just being obtuse, but I would've hoped they could find a way to remain a great deal. As mentioned the frame will be a bit more than an ML frame, so we're officially in boutique bike territory here.

    Edit: I just noticed Chumbawrld's post from a few hours ago confirming the 5".
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpercussive
    you mean the rear wheel is supposed to go on the fork???
    ummmm... no. believe it or not, there are other things in that pic besides a bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy_ending
    ummmm... no. believe it or not, there are other things in that pic besides a bike.
    Thats what I was complaining about also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Thats what I was complaining about also.
    Yep, if only it would roll of the stand like it so obviously wants to this wouldn’t be a problem…

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168
    Yep, if only it would roll of the stand like it so obviously wants to this wouldn’t be a problem…

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    Looks like Chumba has a new site with VF2 info up now.

    http://www.chumbaracing.com/vf2.shtml

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    yuppers... new site is up... Much cooler!!!

    Also, had the chance to ride the VF2... Omg it pedals!!! Hahaha... Even aired it on Boyscout yesterday... hahaha

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    i ran into Walter this week with his quiver of 4 in San Francisco! Nice!
    anyway, i believe he said 5" rear travel, like the XCL.
    this fit and finish were nice for sure. cant wait to ride one.

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