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    Strava?

    Anyone use Strava on the CT trails? I just started last week, already addicted. I have a 2 at Case, looking for a KOM... only 3 seconds difference.

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    What the heck is Strava? I keep hearing it all over the forums lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail Addict View Post
    What the heck is Strava? I keep hearing it all over the forums lately.
    My thoughts exactly! Im all over here... time to google lol
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    Strava is a smart phone app. Anyone can set "segments" on line, say a particular climb or descent. Then everyone who records rides via the app competes for bragging rights for riding that section the fastest. To anyone who is competitive (like me) it's like handing a needle to a junkie.

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    I have it and like it a lot, but I use it to primarily track rides and mileage. It can become competative though!

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    Oh yeah, and it keeps track of your rides, mileage to date etc. That is cool too. I was psyched to hit some segments yesterday at Hale, but the app failed to record anything. Disappointing.

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    I use it at Hale a bit. Haven't found any segments there yet.

    Tomorrow I'm going to hit up Crandall's, maybe there's something there.

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    I created one segment at Crandalls - the TVA climb, which is the switchback trail up the front side.

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    I created three segments at Hale - the North Side loop, Punisher and Wiggle.

    I was with a group last night which pushed me hard when I was riding, but there was a few stops to wait for people to catch up - I can probably do the North Side faster than posted, Punisher would be hard to ride that fast without stopping (and I probably wouldn't ride that fast by myself). My time on Wiggle would be hard for me to beat.

    I'm still not 100% sure how Strava does the whole KOM thing. I am KOM on a couple of segments that I created. As soon as you create a segment it goes back and grabs times from others who have ridden that segment and stack ranks them - but I don't get that KOM thing on my profile for those segments I created. I'm just curious how it works.

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    I have a few issues with Strava...

    1. it quits if you loose cell reception (or used to , been a few updates since)
    2. I find Everytrail much more accurate if you play with the settings.. you can adj the sensitively in Everytrail, not so in Strava
    3. Don't like the friggin monthly payment crap.. I don't mind paying for an app, but not paying 10 bucks a month to get the features I want.. I'll pay the $5 bucks upfront and be done

    if you're a racer type the whole compare thing is OK.. but you can do that with any of them, just load someone's track and take a look..
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    I'm probably the most competitive cyclist you'll ever meet. However I really see no use in this Starva app.

    I already have my bike computer to track down my miles and average speed. And as for getting competitive I find the real competition on the trails. Every other cyclist is my opponent on the trails.

    You should see me every time someone tries to catch up to me on a climb. I turn into Tinker Juarez and drop them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail Addict View Post
    I'm probably the most competitive cyclist you'll ever meet. However I really see no use in this Starva app.

    I already have my bike computer to track down my miles and average speed. And as for getting competitive I find the real competition on the trails. Every other cyclist is my opponent on the trails.

    You should see me every time someone tries to catch up to me on a climb. I turn into Tinker Juarez and drop them.
    well the point of Strava is that you can "compete" with people at diff times.. you and who ever keep posting times and you keep trying to beat each other... without having a formal race. They are being Sued for it though as someone died while "competing" on a road..


    thing is the phones and such aren't really accurate enough ...
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    I'm sure its not very accurate - and TL I agree Everytrail is better, but the segment competition thing is what draws me to the app. I didn't realize you had to pay a monthly fee to see the "pro" stuff. I was considering upgrading, I won't if I have to pay per month.

    I got KOM on a segment today on purpose for the first time - I tried hard to go as fast as I could knowing I was riding a segment. Of course I know a dozen riders who could take that from me in a heartbeat, but they don't have Strava (shhhhh).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    ............Of course I know a dozen riders who could take that from me in a heartbeat, but they don't have Strava (shhhhh).
    LOLOLOLOLn
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    I's actually trying a new one(well to me, actually I think it's one of the oldest for the Iphone..?) anyway.. it's
    Kinetic (lite) and man do I love the interface.. really well laid out and design with ton's of info available but do so it's not all cluttered. Haven't tried it out and about yet.. and I don't see a "download maps" so I'm guessing it's another that will screw up if you loose cell reception.. but I'll give it a try..

    Everytrail, GPS kit, Runtastic's Mt Bike computer and MotionX are about the best so far for me.. My biggest issue is the thing quitting when you loose cell reception (which happens a lot at Hartman and Bluff Point in the valley's) the ones that let you pre-download the maps not only don't quit.. but you can turn the network off and save a boat load of batt!!!
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    Ah something I just read - I incorrectly assumed that Strava counted "wait" time as part of your time to complete a segment, according to what I just read it does not. So if you ride hard, take a break, then continue on, the time not moving gets subtracted from your total.

    Hmm, not sure on this yet... still investigating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Ah something I just read - I incorrectly assumed that Strava counted "wait" time as part of your time to complete a segment, according to what I just read it does not. So if you ride hard, take a break, then continue on, the time not moving gets subtracted from your total.

    Hmm, not sure on this yet... still investigating.
    you can turn it on or off... Almost all the GPS Apps have a "delete Still" somewhere in the settings..
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    I've been using runtatic Mountainbike Pro for a few months. I like it a lot, but am going to give Strava a try.

    Hey TL, do you have a run saved from Rocky Neck? I would like to see your route. I have a nice 7mile loop mapped out, and would like to put together something over 10miles w/o much overlap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattC555 View Post
    I've been using runtatic Mountainbike Pro for a few months. I like it a lot, but am going to give Strava a try.

    Hey TL, do you have a run saved from Rocky Neck? I would like to see your route. I have a nice 7mile loop mapped out, and would like to put together something over 10miles w/o much overlap.
    ya,.. don't think you are going to get a full 10 miles there without over lap.. I have done 10 miles but that included riding the camp ground loops..

    Go to Everytrail.com and just look up Thomllama.. think all my routes will show..
    can also see most of them on Crankfire.com's map.. though I haven't uploaded there in some time.
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    yeah but...

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    you can turn it on or off... Almost all the GPS Apps have a "delete Still" somewhere in the settings..
    I guess the question I have is does it eliminate the "still" sections in the segments? I'll do some investigation and figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    I guess the question I have is does it eliminate the "still" sections in the segments? I'll do some investigation and figure it out.
    ya.. I believe it does.. just looked through the directions/info and no way I can find to turn it off either.. another mark against Strava It's SOO popular and I really don't get it other than the "race" thing and that you can really do with any of them..
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    Biketracks

    I've been using Biketracks on my iPhone. It works well, but I cant get the info off the iPhone onto my PC. I know it can be done but I cant figure out how to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomllama View Post
    ya.. I believe it does.. just looked through the directions/info and no way I can find to turn it off either.. another mark against Strava It's SOO popular and I really don't get it other than the "race" thing and that you can really do with any of them..
    Its definitely the race thing - I see others are coming out with the same idea - the thing is you need critical mass for the racing part to work - I think the first one in is going to "win" - much like Google Circles vs Facebook - too many people on Facebook now for Circles to take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattC555 View Post
    I've been using runtatic Mountainbike Pro for a few months. I like it a lot, but am going to give Strava a try.

    Hey TL, do you have a run saved from Rocky Neck? I would like to see your route. I have a nice 7mile loop mapped out, and would like to put together something over 10miles w/o much overlap.
    hey Matt,.. started a new thread instead of highjacking Jisch's

    http://forums.mtbr.com/connecticut-r...ml#post9473552
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    hijack or no, at least the CT/RI board has some use!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    hijack or no, at least the CT/RI board has some use!
    ya,.. but I'm kinda likely the discussion on Strava and other GPS ... though there is a whole GPS section here, but screw it
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    Check out this GPS track of Salmon River today - we started and ended at the same point - man it got the ending VERY wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Check out this GPS track of Salmon River today - we started and ended at the same point - man it got the ending VERY wrong.

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    ya.. that could be the phone, Cell reception, tree coverage blocking GPS signal.. bla bla bla

    gotten my 2nd trip with the Kinetic Lite.. has REALLY high point count. makes for a pretty accurate reading, still far from perfect but better read outs than any I've used so far.

    Kinetic GPS for iPhone - Route sharing
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    Such a bummer - I hauled a$$ down a known segment at Case today, only to find that it was messed up in my phone and didn't register as the segment. Argh! I would love to know how I did, it surely felt like I was faster than last time.

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    Stop using strava. . Seriously this new ap drops signal but it marks it but still gives an average for the section. Pretty well set up
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    I'm using Strava strictly for the segments. I have other GPS apps that work better on my phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    I'm using Strava strictly for the segments. I have other GPS apps that work better on my phone.
    ya.. I was just picking on ya

    thing with the strava web site is I believe you can still use other GPS software/apps, then upload to their website and still get the compared trips/runs??? think so anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    I'm using Strava strictly for the segments. I have other GPS apps that work better on my phone.
    What other apps do you prefer?

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    Everytrail is better, as is Google My Tracks.

    Incidentally my phone automatically downloaded Ice Cream Sandwich this morning - I'll have to see if it improves things. I really don't know if the issue is my phone or the app. I really don't care one way or the other - its good enough for me.

    I think you can upload tracks from other devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Everytrail is better, as is Google My Tracks.

    Incidentally my phone automatically downloaded Ice Cream Sandwich this morning - I'll have to see if it improves things. I really don't know if the issue is my phone or the app. I really don't care one way or the other - its good enough for me.

    I think you can upload tracks from other devices.
    Hey Jisch, you Iphone or Droid?
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    Droid (hence the Ice Cream Sandwich) I hate how Google names their OS'es - Gingerbread, Ice Cream Sandwich - just give me numbers please.

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    I use my iphone and I also use GPS Kit. It better than Strava and I love it. Knock on wood I havent lost signal or anything like that. What I have been doing though is this. I do have a Strava account and after I log a ride with GPS kit, I can email the GPS data to myselfas either a gpx file or kmz file. Upload that to Strava via the website and boom, its like I used Strava. GPS KIt also allows me to crate segments and waypoints as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somexiridemybike View Post
    .... What I have been doing though is this. I do have a Strava account and after I log a ride with GPS kit, I can email the GPS data to myselfas either a gpx file or kmz file. Upload that to Strava via the website and boom, its like I used Strava. GPS KIt also allows me to crate segments and waypoints as well.
    Ya, GPS Kit is pretty nice, in my top 3

    ya know you don't have to E-mail right? With GPS Kit and Everytrail they both have "export to Itunes" so you just plug in your phone, fire up Itunes on your computer and download the file..

    I'm really liking Kinetic a lot more and more.. if you look at this file from today, you can see little white dots and the "breaks" in the signal.. it doesn't freak out like most do, picks the signal back up and keeps going on with a avg reading for the lost area... Iterface is pretty sweet too.. though there are some weird things but those are as much me used to other apps I think.

    Kinetic GPS for iPhone - Route sharing

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    ^^ yeahhhhhh unfortunately for me, I am cheap and have a laptop through work and I cant install itunes without admin permission hence the having to take the extra email step. I will have to check out this Kinetic app.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somexiridemybike View Post
    ^^ yeahhhhhh unfortunately for me, I am cheap and have a laptop through work and I cant install itunes without admin permission hence the having to take the extra email step. I will have to check out this Kinetic app.
    hey.. if it works, and it's basically free... hell ya I'd be using it too!!
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    yeah I am all about free lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail Addict View Post
    I'm probably the most competitive cyclist you'll ever meet. However I really see no use in this Starva app.

    I already have my bike computer to track down my miles and average speed. And as for getting competitive I find the real competition on the trails. Every other cyclist is my opponent on the trails.

    You should see me every time someone tries to catch up to me on a climb. I turn into Tinker Juarez and drop them.
    There are these things called races.

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    I have raced XC few times and really didn't like it (i love endurance races). I like the time trial aspect of the competition in Strava.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB2 View Post
    There are these things called races.
    Yeah, no sh*t. Try winning some instead of trying to act like a smart a$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail Addict View Post
    Yeah, no sh*t. Try winning some instead of trying to act like a smart a$$.
    Okay...

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    Okay, you have won many races good for you. Peace
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail Addict View Post
    Okay, you have won many races. However if you were from another state, you know a state that actually has high mountains then I would be impressed but considering that the highest point in CT is only 2,405 feet. I'm respectfully going to say that I'm not impressed at all. You do realize that you're pretty much riding on flat land right?

    I climb around 4,000 feet in about an hour on just my regular every day rides. On special rides I go up to 9,000 feet.
    4000' in an hour is quite impressive. That would put you on the leaderboard of the Mt Washington Hill Climb.
    Although I have not had the pleasure of racing in other regions of the country, New Englanders usually fair quite well in other regions, usually finishing in the same percentile as they would back home.

    I'll be testing my flatlander legs this weekend in New Hampshire. You should come.

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    Haven't had a problem with Strava since I installed it about a week or two ago. Granted this is my first time using a GPS tracker or anything like that. It's helped me find some new places to ride at too.
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    I don't know if its a problem with my phone or Strava, but even after riding a segment, I'm only getting credit about half the time.

    It has definitely added a new dimension to my riding though - not sure its a good dimension, but it is new. I blasted up a hill today totally ignoring my huffing riding buddy because I knew I was on a segment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    I don't know if its a problem with my phone or Strava, but even after riding a segment, I'm only getting credit about half the time.
    That will happen with my Garmin too.

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