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    Specialized Command Post Blacklite

    Looks like Specialized has come out with a new and improved Command post: http://www.bikerumor.com/2011/04/19/...d-your-saddle/.

    The new lever looks sweet, but too bad they kept the one-bolt head.

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    They need to make a 27.2 diameter one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuuds
    Looks like Specialized has come out with a new and improved Command post: http://www.bikerumor.com/2011/04/19/...d-your-saddle/.

    The new lever looks sweet, but too bad they kept the one-bolt head.
    Can't wait see the battle that ensues over the remote lever. I wonder if it's only compatible with Specialized's grips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage
    Can't wait see the battle that ensues over the remote lever. I wonder if it's only compatible with Specialized's grips.
    It looks like you can get the remote in two flavors: one that comes with grips, in which case the remote lever doubles as the grip retention clamp, or without grips, in which case the remote lever just mounts to empty space on the handlebar like anything else.

    In looking at the picture of the dual purpose remote lever/grip clamp, I don't see why that couldn't be made to work with some other brand of grips. However, Big S is the master of making things proprietary just for the sake of being non-compatible with everything else -- for example their oddball headset size and proprietary remote cable on the old Command Post -- so that remains to be seen. But they deserve props for offering two versions.

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    more info up on the Specialized website. Here's some tech/marketing spew. They say it's 100g less than the old Command Post, but you sure wouldn't know it by looking at the claimed weights on their own website (which appear to be about the same)...

    edit tried to make the pic bigger but that's the best I could do... go to the spec website if you want to read it, I guess.

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    I love the Command Post that came with my Enduro. Nice to know that if it craps out there is an updated version.

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    Does anybody know when these (Blacklite) will be sold in stores?
    I called a specialized dealer and the guy had no idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redley78
    Does anybody know when these (Blacklite) will be sold in stores?
    I called a specialized dealer and the guy had no idea
    Sounds promising lol
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    I can't wait to get my hands on one of these.
    Meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfox90
    Sounds promising lol
    Not really, It just means that most customer service reps dont know crap. I thought someone in this forum might have some insight.

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    looks like they are available through the Specialized website right now.

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    All sized except the 30.9/75mm are in stock.

    Looks like a pretty sweet post. I JUST bought the older model but am now selling it because I need a zero offset post. Too bad they don't make an zero offset version.

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    i keep waiting to buy the perfect post and a new one keeps coming out every couple of months. when i can haz my adj. post?

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    Got mine yesterday and the shop I go to has some in stock. Seatpost is super nice!

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    I don't know about new and improved it looks like a KS copy with the remote, cable housing and quick release cable system. I thought I saw a pic on a scale months ago a ks post with cable and remote that weight 520g. I was hoping that the new command post would be hydraulic and offer in 27.2.

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    Here is an article about the blacklite from singletrack.com
    http://singletrack.competitor.com/20...lacklite_15677

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    eh. i like the two drop feature and the remote but the rest is so so. the reverb is like 510 grams and ks has a post coming out that is like 450 grams. plus the clamping system still looks bad.

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    After researching and trying this post on my bike at the store i must say, its not for everybody. There is just too little adjustability in these with all travel versions.
    I can only have 7.5 inches of post in my frame, this leaves 3-4 inches out of the frame at its lowest travel setting. This creates downhill situations where i want my post dropped, but max drop from seatclamp is 4 inches. Climbing seat height would also be too high with the 4 and 5 inch versions.
    Once again, not for everyone, and i am a very average person 5'10" 165 lbs.

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    Ok I just got the 100mm travel blacklite post from specialized. I was going kind of crazy trying to decide between the 75mm and 100mm post because I wasn't sure if the 100mm would fit me and my bike.
    So, for those of you that might be looking for the information, you will need to have at least 6.5 inches of seatpost exposed on your current seatpost in order to use the 100mm version. This is assuming that you can fit the whole bottom part of the post into your seat tube.
    In other words, the bottom section of the command post is roughly 8.5 inches from the bottom of the post up to where the post flares out. Then above that, there is roughly 6.5 inches up to the middle of the seat rail(when the post is fully extended).

    So in the example above by Redley78, since he can only fit 7.5 inches of seatpost in his frame, he would need to have 7.5 inches of post exposed(when the post is fully extended).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1
    Ok I just got the 100mm travel blacklite post from specialized. I was going kind of crazy trying to decide between the 75mm and 100mm post because I wasn't sure if the 100mm would fit me and my bike.
    So, for those of you that might be looking for the information, you will need to have at least 6.5 inches of seatpost exposed on your current seatpost in order to use the 100mm version. This is assuming that you can fit the whole bottom part of the post into your seat tube.
    In other words, the bottom section of the command post is roughly 8.5 inches from the bottom of the post up to where the post flares out. Then above that, there is roughly 6.5 inches up to the middle of the seat rail(when the post is fully extended).

    So in the example above by Redley78, since he can only fit 7.5 inches of seatpost in his frame, he would need to have 7.5 inches of post exposed(when the post is fully extended).
    Thanks, that's some good info on the 100mm post. Can you also tell us how many inches from the bottom to the minimum insertion line? (I have a lot of seat post exposed, don't care about maximum drop, so would like to get the 100mm version instead of the heavier 125mm version if I can raise it enough.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelspeed
    Thanks, that's some good info on the 100mm post. Can you also tell us how many inches from the bottom to the minimum insertion line? (I have a lot of seat post exposed, don't care about maximum drop, so would like to get the 100mm version instead of the heavier 125mm version if I can raise it enough.)
    I weighed the post with all the hardware that came with it and it weighed 540 grams on my scale.

    Minimum insertion is 100mm, just slightly less than 4 inches. At minimum insertion, there is 280mm(about 11 inches) exposed from top of seat tube to middle of seat rail.

    So basically, assuming your frame's seat tube is long enough to fit the whole seat post, if your current seat post has between 6.5 inches to 11 inches exposed, then the 100mm post will work for you.

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    If you check the comments looks like the old command post was weighed without cables and remote and new 100g less blacklite was measured with them.

    I have one on order, should be in today I hope... I've heard mixed reviews and I'm a GD fan boy for years without issue so I'm a bit nervous.

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    Right. The new post is about 100 grams lighter than the old one(25 bucks cheaper too!). I just put the weight there to compare to the claimed weight of 531 grams.

    What kind of mixed reviews have you heard? The only complaints I've found were about the cable being proprietary(which has been changed to use regular derailleur cable now) and the first generation ones with the leaky seal(also has been fixed with a better seal).

    I just installed mine last night so only rode around the block but so far it seems to work really good. Once it is locked in position the post does not move at all. No play whatsoever.
    I have only 2 minor quibbles if you can even call it that.
    1) When the post is fully extended, if you grab the bike by the post you'll get grease on your hands.
    2) The trigger is hard to push if your weight is totally on the saddle

    I was deciding between the GD and the blacklite. Picked the blacklite because I needed a setback seatpost. Also the blacklite needs slightly less minimum exposed seatpost than the GD(6.5 inches vs 7.25 inches

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1
    Right. The new post is about 100 grams lighter than the old one(25 bucks cheaper too!). I just put the weight there to compare to the claimed weight of 531 grams.

    What kind of mixed reviews have you heard? The only complaints I've found were about the cable being proprietary(which has been changed to use regular derailleur cable now) and the first generation ones with the leaky seal(also has been fixed with a better seal).

    I just installed mine last night so only rode around the block but so far it seems to work really good. Once it is locked in position the post does not move at all. No play whatsoever.
    I have only 2 minor quibbles if you can even call it that.
    1) When the post is fully extended, if you grab the bike by the post you'll get grease on your hands.
    2) The trigger is hard to push if your weight is totally on the saddle

    I was deciding between the GD and the blacklite. Picked the blacklite because I needed a setback seatpost. Also the blacklite needs slightly less minimum exposed seatpost than the GD(6.5 inches vs 7.25 inches
    i am in the same boat as you, as far as decisions go. However, I am deciding to go with the Turbo GD because the post is shorter below the clamp, 6.75" (350mm GD) vs 8.5" (BL). And in my situation with my frame only accepting 7.5 inches of post, i will be able to run the GD at max height of 7.25 vs 7.5 (BL), and dropped to 3.25" vs 3.50" (BL).

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    Sorry for the double post... Anyone know of any gravity dropper retailers in Socal/OC areas? Id rather see the post in person before purchasing.

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    Post up in the SoCal forums, surely someone in your area will have one on their bike to show you...

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    75mm info?

    Kind of surprised Specialized didn't post more info yet to help people choose the right size.

    With pwu's help, I've learned that the 100mm version would work on my hardtail bike, but is too long for my old FSR which doesn't allow much post to be in the seat tube.

    Anyone have all the measurements of the 75mm version? Minimum insertion, length from bottom of post to bottom of flange (where it flairs out), and length from bottom of flange to the saddle rail mount?
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    I had the post out for field testing this weekend. Worked as advertised, but the return is a little quick for my likes, maybe drop the air pressure a bit and see where that takes me.

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    Could someone who has installed one of the Blacklites post a photo of the lever / cable housing / barrel adjuster arrangement? I am putting one of the 100 mm versions on my bike and I'm questioning the arrangement near the lever. There is a long piece made of soft rubber that has me scratching my head - I don't see it in the instructions and can't figure where it's supposed to go. They also seem to have shorted me on ferrules.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeldog
    Could someone who has installed one of the Blacklites post a photo of the lever / cable housing / barrel adjuster arrangement? I am putting one of the 100 mm versions on my bike and I'm questioning the arrangement near the lever. There is a long piece made of soft rubber that has me scratching my head - I don't see it in the instructions and can't figure where it's supposed to go. They also seem to have shorted me on ferrules.

    Thanks.
    The long black piece that kinda looks like a miniature missile? I think that is supposed to be a seal for the cable at the seatpost end but I couldn't figure out how to use it so I just left it off.
    My post was also short 1 ferrule once I cut the housing to install the tension adjustment thingy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeldog
    Could someone who has installed one of the Blacklites post a photo of the lever / cable housing / barrel adjuster arrangement? I am putting one of the 100 mm versions on my bike and I'm questioning the arrangement near the lever. There is a long piece made of soft rubber that has me scratching my head - I don't see it in the instructions and can't figure where it's supposed to go. They also seem to have shorted me on ferrules.

    Thanks.
    I will try to take a picture later, but I left the black rubber piece out as well, I have no idea what it is for.

    Mine goes Lever>Housing>Adjuster>Housing>Post

    Mine came with the correct amount of ferrules.

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    pwu_1 and Kaliman,

    Thanks - I got it figured out and installed. I hate having leftover parts - you can even see the rubber missile-looking thing in the photos from Specialized. I ended up installing the barrel adjuster a little ways down from the noodle, pretty much in line with the stem. My frame (Blur LTc has the guides) so the routing was really pretty clean.

    I guess they use that barrel and tiny hex setscrew at the saddle end to save weight, but jeez I was worried I'd strip something out when I was tightening it down. I like to torque things to spec but who the hell has a torque wrench with that size bit? Maybe a Swiss watchmaker someplace.

    Getting a real run of rain around here so I haven't had time to try out the post but it seems pretty solid.

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    Funny thing working in a bike shop..

    I Just built up a Yeti ASR-7 with the old version of the Command post a month ago.. After I get 2 rides on the post the new BL version comes out and earlier last week I mention that I like the new lever better then the old version I have..
    So yesterday my manager tells me that my new seat post is in..

    WTF? I didnt order a new seatpost, mine is like brand new?!

    Turns out he decided that the new version is that much better and would help me with my inner weight weenie, so he ordered me the new post without informing me.. So I mounted it up and It is much better then the old version.. the action is much smoother and the lever is tons better.. I was unsure about the in line adjuster but I guess its cool.. I just would rather not have 4 housing ends rather then 2 for the old version.. but all in all it is an improvement..

    I just hope I can sell my old post for how much the new one cost..

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    For a Large size 2011 Stumpy FSR Elite... Should I get the 100 or 125mm version. I am 6ft tall with long legs... Thx

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    You should be fine with the 125mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AEsco48 View Post
    For a Large size 2011 Stumpy FSR Elite... Should I get the 100 or 125mm version. I am 6ft tall with long legs... Thx
    The amount of drop is all personal perference.
    You should however, determine whether both will fit before deciding on which one to order.
    I have the 100mm post and according to my measurements, you'll need at least 6.5 inches of exposed seatpost on your current setup(measured from top of seat tube to center of seat rail) to use the 100mm post. For the 125mm post my guess is you would need 7.5 inches of exposed seatpost but no guarantees since I didn't actually try it.
    After that its just personal preference on the amount of drop.

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    Anyone have one of these new Blacklite yet? whats your review on it?

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    The post itself seems good. There's no play in it at all yet. It's very sensitive to setup though and the cable that comes with it isn't all that good. I ended up having a remote lever that was incredibly difficult to push. I took it all apart and put a new shifter cable in and it was better. It's still nowhere near as smooth as the Reverb, but nothing is. The bonus in this post is that if it breaks on you mid-ride, the locking collet should make it so you have a normal post in most instances. When my Reverb failed mid-ride I was left standing.

    The post and operation seems great, but...they still haven't fixed the saddle clamping mechanism. I've had way too many issues of my saddle rotating backwards and the nose coming up to hit me in the balls. What's the point of a drop post if you have to stop and get out your multi-tool to correct your saddle position 3-4 times per ride? My friend said to put carbon paste where the 2 pieces meet so they don't rotate. He had that work for him. I need to try this, but I'm irritated that it needs half-ass fixes to make it work correctly. I'm not sure why there are no grooves and teeth at this joining. Take a Deity Tibia seatpost for example. It's 1 bolt, but it never rotates. I'm not sure why Specialized couldn't figure that out. With all the complaints about the first one, I'm not sure why they didn't go with a 2 bolt head.

    I'd still be riding the Reverb if it fit on my new bike and it wasn't in need of service. This is the best option for my frame though.
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    ^^^ thats funny I toasted my cable in initial setup and had to put a new one in before trying it, it came apart while trying to get the set screw on there. I have been running mine for a little over a month now. I havant tried a Reverb but its way better than Joplin ever was. no annoying side to side play I can lift up on the saddle without worry of getting air in the system. The middle setting is at the perfect hight for me and I can find it every time. I really like the lever as well, it took a couple rides to get it exactly were I wanted it but now its just natural to hit it. I purchased this post for a couple reasons it was a mechanical and fully serviceable. It has lived up to my expectations thus far.
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    I've had mine since May and I love the post. No experience with the other seat posts so nothing else to compare to.
    I have not had any problems with it at all. The seat post I got actually had carbon assembly paste on the seat clamp assembly from the factory. I torqued the bolt down to spec and the seat has not moved at all.(I weigh about 165 without gear).
    The only nitpick thing I can say is that the lever is hard to push if I'm sitting on the seat. I have to slightly un-weigh, push the lever, then push the seat down with my butt. Sometimes I actually think that might be a good thing since it prevents accidental seat lowering.

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    Cool reviews. Leaning with Blacklite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronabrandt View Post
    ^^^ thats funny I toasted my cable in initial setup and had to put a new one in before trying it, it came apart while trying to get the set screw on there.
    Mine did the same damn thing. The set screw split some of the threads in half on the steel cable. I was like WTF? I didn't tighten it too much. Any looser and the cable would pull right through the barrel without releasing the post.

    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    I've had mine since May and I love the post. No experience with the other seat posts so nothing else to compare to.
    I have not had any problems with it at all. The seat post I got actually had carbon assembly paste on the seat clamp assembly from the factory. I torqued the bolt down to spec and the seat has not moved at all.(I weigh about 165 without gear).
    Mine didn't have any. Plus I'm quite a bit heavier than you so could explain why you're not having any issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    The only nitpick thing I can say is that the lever is hard to push if I'm sitting on the seat. I have to slightly un-weigh, push the lever, then push the seat down with my butt. Sometimes I actually think that might be a good thing since it prevents accidental seat lowering.
    This is normal for every drop post I've used. With the Reverb it was not as pronounced, but it was still there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    The only nitpick thing I can say is that the lever is hard to push if I'm sitting on the seat. I have to slightly un-weigh, push the lever, then push the seat down with my butt. Sometimes I actually think that might be a good thing since it prevents accidental seat lowering.

    This is normal for every drop post I've used. With the Reverb it was not as pronounced, but it was still there.
    I have never really noticed this, maybe its because I weigh nothing. Haven't had any slip issues either.
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    I just picked mine up and installed it last night. It's my first dropper seatpost, so I have nothing to compare it to, but seems to work well. Haven't had a chance to ride yet.

    The owner's manual says to lubricate the inner tube (the smaller diameter part of the post) every ride, but doesn't say what to use. What are people using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuuds View Post
    The owner's manual says to lubricate the inner tube (the smaller diameter part of the post) every ride, but doesn't say what to use. What are people using?
    I use TriFlow, but any thin/chain lube would work.
    After a ride I wipe off any dust/dirt, the lube the post, and seal, cycle it up & down a few times, then wipe off any excess oil - good to go for the next ride.

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    Did my first ride with the Blacklite today, it was very solid, no play or slop that I could detect. This was my first time ever on a dropper seatpost, and all I can say is wow. . . I see what all the hype is about now. At the push of a button you have an ideal pedaling position, you can to drop it to the middle for mixed climbing and descending, and then all the way down for descending. I could see where infinite adjustablity would be good to have, because the middle position seems a wee bit low, but the trade-off of having the reassuring "clunk" you feel when it lock into place is worth it.

    I did have one issue however, it moved up no problem from the bottom position to the middle position, but it didn't want to rise up from the middle to the top position. Most times, in order to get from the middle to the top, I would have to drop it all the way down first, and then let it rise two positions.

    I checked the air pressure from the factory, and it was 40 PSI. The manual said the post is shipped with 25 psi, and the absolute maximum pressure is 40. When I installed the post, I dropped the pressure to 30 psi figuring that would be a good middle ground to start.

    Are others having this problem, or is this something that will happen until the post gets a chance to break in? What PSI are people running? I am going to bump the air pressure up to 35 and see if that fixes it.

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    Hi guys, can you give a hand?

    I was about to buy a Reverb but it seems –at least to me- that a mechanical seatpost like the Blacklite is more reliable. The Specialized local dealer in Chile doesn’t have it, and I don’t want to buy a Reverb or KS being so far away. If they had any problem I would be on my own…

    So… can anyone give me the name or email address of your Lbs so I can try to reach them and get one? I would really appreciate it.

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    U can order directly from specialized.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Biker View Post
    U can order directly from specialized.com
    No, since there is a Specialized dealer here they don't ship to Chile.

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    Looks like a rebranded X-Fusion Hilo 100 to me or atleast very very close to one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuuds View Post
    Are others having this problem, or is this something that will happen until the post gets a chance to break in? What PSI are people running? I am going to bump the air pressure up to 35 and see if that fixes it.
    Use the TriFlow, or light lube as stated above, and let it break in for a couple rides.
    Mine did this at first, too (original model, with the upgraded sealhead.) It worked ok at first, but got super smooth after a few rides. I'm running 30-35psi in mine, and have not had to add air in over a year of use now. I make sure my rear is on the seat, or completely away from it when I want it at the top position, otherwise I'll get a "punch" where I don't want it

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    Quote Originally Posted by deoreo View Post
    Use the TriFlow, or light lube as stated above, and let it break in for a couple rides.
    Mine did this at first, too (original model, with the upgraded sealhead.) It worked ok at first, but got super smooth after a few rides. I'm running 30-35psi in mine, and have not had to add air in over a year of use now. I make sure my rear is on the seat, or completely away from it when I want it at the top position, otherwise I'll get a "punch" where I don't want it
    Also, might want to try loosening your seat clamp first to make sure the clamp is not too tight, making the post bind.

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    Looks like a rebranded X-Fusion Hilo 100 to me or atleast very very close to one.
    X-Fusion Hilo is hydraulic with infinite position. The Specialized is mechanical with 3 preset position so they are completely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deoreo View Post
    Use the TriFlow, or light lube as stated above, and let it break in for a couple rides.
    Mine did this at first, too (original model, with the upgraded sealhead.) It worked ok at first, but got super smooth after a few rides. I'm running 30-35psi in mine, and have not had to add air in over a year of use now. I make sure my rear is on the seat, or completely away from it when I want it at the top position, otherwise I'll get a "punch" where I don't want it
    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    Also, might want to try loosening your seat clamp first to make sure the clamp is not too tight, making the post bind.
    Good info, thanks! I think my seat clamp is OK because I was paranoid about overtightening it, but it won't hurt to double check it.

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    I know this is not totally in-line with this thread, but I have a sweet, older, S-works team frame that just recently met its demise. Does anyone know about repairing M2 metal matrix frames? With significant cracks/breaks, is it garbage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuuds View Post
    Did my first ride with the Blacklite today, it was very solid, no play or slop that I could detect. This was my first time ever on a dropper seatpost, and all I can say is wow. . . I see what all the hype is about now. At the push of a button you have an ideal pedaling position, you can to drop it to the middle for mixed climbing and descending, and then all the way down for descending. I could see where infinite adjustablity would be good to have, because the middle position seems a wee bit low, but the trade-off of having the reassuring "clunk" you feel when it lock into place is worth it.

    I did have one issue however, it moved up no problem from the bottom position to the middle position, but it didn't want to rise up from the middle to the top position. Most times, in order to get from the middle to the top, I would have to drop it all the way down first, and then let it rise two positions.

    I checked the air pressure from the factory, and it was 40 PSI. The manual said the post is shipped with 25 psi, and the absolute maximum pressure is 40. When I installed the post, I dropped the pressure to 30 psi figuring that would be a good middle ground to start.

    Are others having this problem, or is this something that will happen until the post gets a chance to break in? What PSI are people running? I am going to bump the air pressure up to 35 and see if that fixes it.
    1 of the below, or a combination of:

    1. Air pressure too low. Perhaps you're getting an inaccurate reading. You might already know this, but you need to set the pressure with the post at full extension.
    2. Cable tension not high enough and not releasing the post collet all the way.
    3. Seatpost clamp too tight. This isn't as much of an issue I've found on the Command post though. It has thicker walls than the Reverb, etc. I've got a bolt-on clamp that's pretty damn tight and I haven't had issues.

    I have managed to fix my seat clamp/saddle rotating issues with a bunch of carbon paste at all the interfaces. I like the post now, but still miss the Reverb and wish I could run it on this bike. This is the second best choice for me, but the best choice for my Pivot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    I like the post now, but still miss the Reverb and wish I could run it on this bike. This is the second best choice for me, but the best choice for my Pivot.
    I really hate to read that
    I've just ordered a Blacklite from USA (and it wasn't easy because of Specialized dealer territory agreements) while I could get a Reverb locally in Chile. Based on what I've read here it seems to me that the command is more reliable, second best after GD.
    I hope I'm right, fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jai View Post
    I really hate to read that
    I've just ordered a Blacklite from USA (and it wasn't easy because of Specialized dealer territory agreements) while I could get a Reverb locally in Chile. Based on what I've read here it seems to me that the command is more reliable, second best after GD.
    I hope I'm right, fingers crossed.
    I just picked up a blacklite as well. Still sitting in the box waiting to find a little time to install it. I have been debating between the reverb and blacklite for close to a month. Finally decided to pull the trigger for something more reliable. It was $50 cheaper too ($275 vs $325). Plus, I couldnt find any place that had the new 2012 Reverb and I couldnt wait any longer.

    I will post my review in a week or so once I get a few rides on the Blacklite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jai View Post
    I really hate to read that
    I've just ordered a Blacklite from USA (and it wasn't easy because of Specialized dealer territory agreements) while I could get a Reverb locally in Chile. Based on what I've read here it seems to me that the command is more reliable, second best after GD.
    I hope I'm right, fingers crossed.
    You might be right. My Reverb is currently in for service. Even so, there's nothing that even comes close to the feel of the Reverb when it's working. It's so much easier to drop the post quickly before a tough section. I could push it with my pinky if I wanted to, and I can set it anywhere. The Command Post takes a bit more planning/effort, especially if you're trying to find that middle position. I'm comfortable dropping the Reverb in the middle of a steep, technical section. The Command Post I feel like I need to make sure to get it down before I enter it.

    I like them both for different reasons, and while I do feel the Command Post might be more reliable in the long run, the Reverb is a Ferrari while the Command Post is a Ford truck.
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    I got my blacklight a month or so ago..... And I freaking love it!!!! Took my riding to a whole new level. It's quite amazing what being able to get your self lower on the bike because your seat isn't in the way can do for your confidence.



    The fact that I got it at dealer pricing probably helped alot though.... Hahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    1 of the below, or a combination of:

    1. Air pressure too low. Perhaps you're getting an inaccurate reading. You might already know this, but you need to set the pressure with the post at full extension.
    2. Cable tension not high enough and not releasing the post collet all the way.
    3. Seatpost clamp too tight. This isn't as much of an issue I've found on the Command post though. It has thicker walls than the Reverb, etc. I've got a bolt-on clamp that's pretty damn tight and I haven't had issues.

    I have managed to fix my seat clamp/saddle rotating issues with a bunch of carbon paste at all the interfaces. I like the post now, but still miss the Reverb and wish I could run it on this bike. This is the second best choice for me, but the best choice for my Pivot.
    Actually, I didn't know you had to set the pressure at full extension. (I just RTFM again, and now I see that part.) I can't remember what position the the post was at when I set it to 30. I pulled it off to check, and it was 40 psi at full extension. I dribbled a little chain lube on the inner tube, checked the cable tension, double checked the seatpost clamp, and cycled it several times. It will now move on its own from the middle top about 50% of the time (which is an improvement over the previous 0%). It seems to move on its own from position 2 to 3 more often when you quickly stab the lever as opposed to pressing it slowly. I haven't had a chance to go for another ride yet, but I think it'll start working better once it's broken in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeldog View Post
    Could someone who has installed one of the Blacklites post a photo of the lever / cable housing / barrel adjuster arrangement? I am putting one of the 100 mm versions on my bike and I'm questioning the arrangement near the lever. There is a long piece made of soft rubber that has me scratching my head - I don't see it in the instructions and can't figure where it's supposed to go. They also seem to have shorted me on ferrules.

    Thanks.
    I just finished my installation and after running into this same issue, I gave Specialized customer service a call. They told me the soft rubber "missle" piece can be discarded. It was intended to be installed near the 90deg noodle but never worked well. Also, I was short a ferrule as well. I asked customer service and they are sending me (2) ferrules at no charge. I currently have a homemade ferrule in place where the cable meets the seat post. Its holding up but good to know Specialized is taking care of their customers.

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    Looks nice. However, I think they may be a step behind KS and Rockshox. Both companies have some new innovative designs that look really good.

    When the bike frame companies really start to have cable routing through the frame and have the routing of the posts totally hidden like Rockshox new models, then adjustable posts will be on most bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliikane View Post
    Looks nice. However, I think they may be a step behind KS and Rockshox. Both companies have some new innovative designs that look really good.

    When the bike frame companies really start to have cable routing through the frame and have the routing of the posts totally hidden like Rockshox new models, then adjustable posts will be on most bikes.
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    GD vs. the Blacklite ?

    I'm on the fence leaning toward the Blacklight (125 x 30.9) but looks like Spec is out. Anyone know where I can find one - a shop that would be willing to ship?

    Had the GD for years as soon as they came out and really liked it and was going that way but I don't like the way the routing sticks out of the post.

    I find that the ergonomics of the "lever" is pretty important. The GD level was OK - easy to push, but protruded pretty far from the bar making it prone to taking hits (though I never really did end up really damaging it.) The Blacklite switch seems far better in this regard as it's nicely tucked away - but, assuming its set up correctly, is it relatively easy to position on the bar and easy to push? The best post mechanism means little if the bar mounted lever is user un-friendly.

    Thanks.

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    Oh yeah, how 'bout the Rockshox Reverb? From what I hear it has major reliability issues.

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    just about to order a Blacklight for my Mojo HD.
    been looking at either it or a KS, can get the Blacklight from my LBS which is reassuring

    can't quite make my mind up......

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    Judging by the reviews it sounds like there is no movement "play" issues with the seatpost. Unfortunately it appears my 100mm dropper I installed last night does. When in the middle dropper setting I have roughly 1/16" vertical play. The actual play isn't the issue to me it is the very audible clunk when you weight and unweight the post. Anybody have this issue?
    I am taking it for it first real ride now so I will see how big of an issue it is during trail riding. Likely be heading back to the bike shop where I bought it for their opinion.

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    Play - as far as I've heard all of these posts will have some degree of "play". The GD is reportedly the worst. I had GDs way back when, and yes, there was play that was easily felt when moving the post by hand in the garage. On the trail I never felt it, or at least it was a non-issue. This is coming from someone who is driven absolutely nuts by the smallest creak, misalignment, or "play". The moment a DU bushing develops play I can feel it and have to change it - I have a tool and a stash of DU bushings. Point is, for what ever reason, the play in the GD (supposedly the worst) was never noticed out on the trail.

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    After trying it on the trail it is not an issue. As mentioned earlier it was not the minimal play that bothered me but the noise. However on the trail any noise from the seat post is easily masked by drive train and the tires rolling over the ground.

    I admit I can still hear the post "clunk" when riding on paved road but to achieve this means I need to drop my post to the middle position and then raise and lower my but off the seat and this is an abnormal situation.

    BTW In comparison to my GD, that I rode for the last 5 years, this post is smoother and it is much easier to hit the middle position. The lever is nicer looking and easier to operate as well. I had no operational gripes with the GD and it was extremely dependable; the biggest reason I went to the blacklite was I needed a set back post for my new bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kendo View Post
    Judging by the reviews it sounds like there is no movement "play" issues with the seatpost. Unfortunately it appears my 100mm dropper I installed last night does. When in the middle dropper setting I have roughly 1/16" vertical play. The actual play isn't the issue to me it is the very audible clunk when you weight and unweight the post. Anybody have this issue?
    I am taking it for it first real ride now so I will see how big of an issue it is during trail riding. Likely be heading back to the bike shop where I bought it for their opinion.
    I don't think it is normal to have any play and any noise in any position with the command post. My does not have any play at all once it is locked into position. The only sound I get is when the internal collet locks into position I get a click.
    Are u sure the cable is installed correctly? Too much tension in the cable might cause the collet to not lock completely and cause play and clunking. Otherwise you might have gotten a bad one and I would definitely take it back for exchange

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    Thanks for the feedback pwu_1. Cable is good and here is no tension on the cable when the lever is not being engaged. If it was a cable issue I would expect to have issues at the min and max setting as well, which I am not. I guess I will take it back to the bike shop and see what they say.

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    Does anyone know if you can buy just the remote for this system?
    I have 2 bikes i want to use this post on, but i dont want to remove the whole system every time i want to switch bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redley78 View Post
    Does anyone know if you can buy just the remote for this system?
    I have 2 bikes i want to use this post on, but i dont want to remove the whole system every time i want to switch bikes.
    I'm pretty sure you can. That is the whole point of the quick release system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    You might be right. My Reverb is currently in for service. Even so, there's nothing that even comes close to the feel of the Reverb when it's working. It's so much easier to drop the post quickly before a tough section. I could push it with my pinky if I wanted to, and I can set it anywhere. The Command Post takes a bit more planning/effort, especially if you're trying to find that middle position. I'm comfortable dropping the Reverb in the middle of a steep, technical section. The Command Post I feel like I need to make sure to get it down before I enter it.

    I like them both for different reasons, and while I do feel the Command Post might be more reliable in the long run, the Reverb is a Ferrari while the Command Post is a Ford truck.
    After two months with the Blacklite, and haven't tried a Reverb, it seems that now I fully understand your comments.
    I find myself dropping the blacklite before any steep/technical section cause I know I won't be able to drop it in the middle, and I blame the lever (a bit too hard to push) and the fact that I have to drop it until I feel the "click".
    That said, my Blacklite has been working flawlessly: it hasn't developed any play and feels absolutely rock solid. If it fails during an epic ride it's very likely that I'll be able of locking it in its higher position and keep going on. That adds lots of confidence, actually I trust my Blacklite as much as I trust my brakes or...my frame. Couldn't be happier with it

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    Remote is available seperately from your speci dealer for about £20.
    From personal experience I still think the level is the weak part of the whole untit as its pivot is a tiny bar and the alloy wears fast.
    Ive looked at the other alternatives Joplin/Crank & HKS and they are either just as weak or in the case of the HKS a bit too over engineered which makes it stick out miles from the bar.
    The one I do like the look of is the new Giant Switch. The remote seems better positioned but the pivot is still thin.
    I guess the only alternative is to make one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jai View Post
    After two months with the Blacklite, and haven't tried a Reverb, it seems that now I fully understand your comments.
    I find myself dropping the blacklite before any steep/technical section cause I know I won't be able to drop it in the middle, and I blame the lever (a bit too hard to push) and the fact that I have to drop it until I feel the "click".
    That said, my Blacklite has been working flawlessly: it hasn't developed any play and feels absolutely rock solid. If it fails during an epic ride it's very likely that I'll be able of locking it in its higher position and keep going on. That adds lots of confidence, actually I trust my Blacklite as much as I trust my brakes or...my frame. Couldn't be happier with it
    I would echo these comments as well. After being finicky initially, my Blacklite is working great and I have a high degree of confidence in it. While it's not difficult to operate per se, it does require some mental and physical dexterity to operate, I could see how the push-button Reverb would be easier. Not a big deal just cruising along, but when my brain is in an oxygen-deprived state, I have botched saddle drops and have mistaken the dropper lever for the rapidfire lever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuuds View Post
    I would echo these comments as well. After being finicky initially, my Blacklite is working great and I have a high degree of confidence in it. While it's not difficult to operate per se, it does require some mental and physical dexterity to operate, I could see how the push-button Reverb would be easier. Not a big deal just cruising along, but when my brain is in an oxygen-deprived state, I have botched saddle drops and have mistaken the dropper lever for the rapidfire lever.
    I hear that. I occasionally mistime the release of the lever and the seat follows me back up.

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    After deciding that this was the adjustable post I wanted, I called my local (ABQ, NM, USA) Specialized dealer to inquire about ordering one. All three 30.9 sizes are "out of stock" on the Specialized website.

    Local dealer #1 told me that the 125mm post I wanted wasn't going to be available until....get this....APRIL 20, 2012. I couldn't believe it. Called another local Specialized dealer and confirmed. Called Specialized Customer Support and confirmed none are available, but wouldn't give a availability date nor a reason why.

    I'm told that the 100mm posts MIGHT be more available, but I'm not sure I want one of those.

    I may just end up with the Giant Contact Switch which is about $100 cheaper anyway. Only 4-inches of travel, and infinitely adjustable. Or maybe back to the Reverb.
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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by madmossy View Post
    Looks like a rebranded X-Fusion Hilo 100 to me or atleast very very close to one.
    Except the Hilo is hydraulic and the command post is mechanical, and was designed in house by Mike mcAndrews and the R&D team at specialized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    X-Fusion Hilo is hydraulic with infinite position. The Specialized is mechanical with 3 preset position so they are completely different.
    Oh... I was on page one. You got it handled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porschefan View Post
    After deciding that this was the adjustable post I wanted, I called my local (ABQ, NM, USA) Specialized dealer to inquire about ordering one. All three 30.9 sizes are "out of stock" on the Specialized website.

    Local dealer #1 told me that the 125mm post I wanted wasn't going to be available until....get this....APRIL 20, 2012. I couldn't believe it. Called another local Specialized dealer and confirmed. Called Specialized Customer Support and confirmed none are available, but wouldn't give a availability date nor a reason why.

    I'm told that the 100mm posts MIGHT be more available, but I'm not sure I want one of those.

    I may just end up with the Giant Contact Switch which is about $100 cheaper anyway. Only 4-inches of travel, and infinitely adjustable. Or maybe back to the Reverb.
    I got mine from wheel world.com last week.... Try them maybe. The 125 too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelspinn View Post
    I got mine from wheel world.com last week.... Try them maybe. The 125 too.
    Thanks for the tip. I checked their site and it says they are in stock in their Culver City (probably California?) store and that they can only sell to someone who actually walks in the store. Is that what you did? They are out of stock at their warehouse and another location, and per the site their distributor requires them to sell only to "live" customers.

    Also, I'm not sure whether this is the 2012 "Blacklite" or the earlier "plain" Command Posts?

    If anyone knows where to get one, let me know. Otherwise I'll probably settle for the Giant Contact Switch for $200.

    Here's the link to Wheelworld:

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    Thanks again for the tip!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porschefan View Post
    After deciding that this was the adjustable post I wanted, I called my local (ABQ, NM, USA) Specialized dealer to inquire about ordering one. All three 30.9 sizes are "out of stock" on the Specialized website.

    Local dealer #1 told me that the 125mm post I wanted wasn't going to be available until....get this....APRIL 20, 2012. I couldn't believe it. Called another local Specialized dealer and confirmed. Called Specialized Customer Support and confirmed none are available, but wouldn't give a availability date nor a reason why.

    I'm told that the 100mm posts MIGHT be more available, but I'm not sure I want one of those.

    I may just end up with the Giant Contact Switch which is about $100 cheaper anyway. Only 4-inches of travel, and infinitely adjustable. Or maybe back to the Reverb.
    Try with Art's Cyclery, I'm in Chile and got mine from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jai View Post
    Try with Art's Cyclery, I'm in Chile and got mine from them.
    Thanks, Jai. They have the 100mm version. I'm pretty new, so I'm wondering whether I really need the 125mm version, or would I be happy with 100mm? I'm 6', ride a 2010 Yeti ASR 5, Large frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porschefan View Post
    Thanks, Jai. They have the 100mm version. I'm pretty new, so I'm wondering whether I really need the 125mm version, or would I be happy with 100mm? I'm 6', ride a 2010 Yeti ASR 5, Large frame.
    I can't answer yes or no ... it's a very personal decision. I've got the 125 mm version (intense tracer, large, same height as you, long legged) only because I thought I would need 425mm from top to bottom, but I'm pretty sure that if the travel had been 100mm I would be as happy as I'm now with 125. At least for me, a 100mm drop is more than enough.
    Give them a call anyway, maybe they have the 125 version (I'm not sure if their website showed that they had it in stock when I bought it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jai View Post
    I can't answer yes or no ... it's a very personal decision. I've got the 125 mm version (intense tracer, large, same height as you, long legged) only because I thought I would need 425mm from top to bottom, but I'm pretty sure that if the travel had been 100mm I would be as happy as I'm now with 125. At least for me, a 100mm drop is more than enough.
    Give them a call anyway, maybe they have the 125 version (I'm not sure if their website showed that they had it in stock when I bought it)

    Seems like the 125mm size is just not available, unless I get lucky and someone lets me know of a bike shop or online vendor that has one.

    I flirted with getting a 2012 RS Reverb, but they seem to be just asking for a headache--nice post, though.

    Now I'm considering getting a used or possible NOS (new old stock) "Command Post" -- pre-Blacklite. I know the Blacklite weighs less, but are they any other features that I would really be missing if I compromise and get the older version?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porschefan View Post
    Seems like the 125mm size is just not available, unless I get lucky and someone lets me know of a bike shop or online vendor that has one.

    I flirted with getting a 2012 RS Reverb, but those things just seem to asking for a headache.

    Now I'm considering getting a used or possible NOS (new old stock) "Command Post" -- pre-Blacklite. I know the Blacklite weighs less, but are they any other features that I would really be missing if I compromise and get the older version?
    I have the old Command post I bought used on Ebay. I love mine. Haven't had any problems with it so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    I have the old Command post I bought used on Ebay. I love mine. Haven't had any problems with it so far
    Good to hear....I'll keep my eyes peeled for a good used one too.
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    I had 3 Joplins and I am on my 4th Reverb. Next stop is the Blacklite.
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    Why not contact the Specialized Head office in your area.
    They were very helpful sourcing one for me and were able to advise which suppliers actually had them in stock and provide contact details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffter18 View Post
    Why not contact the Specialized Head office in your area.
    They were very helpful sourcing one for me and were able to advise which suppliers actually had them in stock and provide contact details.
    I called Specialized "headquarters" and they weren't particularly helpful. None in stock (125mm version). I've called about 8 dealers/internet shops and all are out. Some are saying Nov-Dec instead of April though.
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    I am 5'-7" and bought the 125mm blacklite. In hindsight i should of gotten the 100 mm version. Currently installed with the collar at the seat post clamp. This is fine for climbing. But when descending i feel its too low. Feels like sitting on a bmx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Biker View Post
    I am 5'-7" and bought the 125mm blacklite. In hindsight i should of gotten the 100 mm version. Currently installed with the collar at the seat post clamp. This is fine for climbing. But when descending i feel its too low. Feels like sitting on a bmx.
    I don't think it's meant to be sat on when fully slammed?? Isn't the idea to just get it out of the way so you can get your weight low and back as you balance on the pedals descending?
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    Not all descents are steep so there are occasions where i am seated at the lowest command post position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Biker View Post
    Not all descents are steep so there are occasions where i am seated at the lowest command post position.
    you always have that middle position to use...


    also, the specialized dealer site is saying early december for the 125mm version, and late november for the 75mm and 100mm. there are plenty 31.6x75/100 available, and the 125mm "should" also be available early december.

    time frames are just an estimate, not exact science

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    Looks great. Might get one for my specialized rockhopper...hmmmm

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    i just got mine from my local dealer who sourced it from a specialized dealer rep type person, it is all brand new but there is noticable play when twisting the saddle side to side, i can see the inner tube moving side to side very slightly within the outer part of the post. my bike came with a regular command post which had no play whatsoever, i am wondering if i should get another blacklite or if this is normal? It was a headache to install and i realize they are very difficult to get a hold of so can someone with a blacklite provide feedback?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boblepesh1 View Post
    i just got mine from my local dealer who sourced it from a specialized dealer rep type person, it is all brand new but there is noticable play when twisting the saddle side to side, i can see the inner tube moving side to side very slightly within the outer part of the post. my bike came with a regular command post which had no play whatsoever, i am wondering if i should get another blacklite or if this is normal? It was a headache to install and i realize they are very difficult to get a hold of so can someone with a blacklite provide feedback?
    That doesn't sound normal. My blacklite post has no side to side play at all.

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    No play on mine either.

    RE: two levers... tricker to set it up that just switch whole thing back and forth if you're not cutting zip ties every time...

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