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    Quote Originally Posted by jtaylor996 View Post
    I've got a brand new reverb stealth on my pony rustler, and it doesn't always want to come all the way back up. What could cause that?
    Make sure the seat post collar isn't too tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtaylor996 View Post
    I've got a brand new reverb stealth on my pony rustler, and it doesn't always want to come all the way back up. What could cause that?
    The other two replies are the best and most likely, but if those don't work then try to bleed the actuator line/lever. I wouldn't have thought this, but I have a reverb which was sometimes not coming back up and after I bled the line it worked fine again. The only thing I can think was happening is the actuator was not able to hold pressure long enough to let the seat back up... it also wouldn't go down all the way sometimes as well. Good luck!

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    It was the seat post clamp being too tight that did it for me. Thanks for the help guys!

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    ^^That's what happened to me. I didn't have my torque wrench handy and tightened the clamp a bit too much. When I loosened the clamp a bit. The post extended all the way up. I'm guessing the outer wall of the Reverb is pretty thin.

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    My A1 reverb is losing air on me - pumped up to 150psi, I get about 8 activations before it stops returning (over about 45 minutes). Leaving the post inflated on the hike overnight also seems to out pressure down to 0psi. It was rebuilt (full service) about 3 months ago after it developed a sag.

    Assuming it isn't as simple as replacing the valve core, which I'll be trying first, should a basic seal kit fix this, or do I need the full service kit? Will I need the ifp tool, oil height tool, etc. for the basic service?

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    Quick question about the new B1 post and lighter riders. I am 110 lbs and have a heck of a time getting the A2 post to drop. Actually I could not get the A2 to drop out of the box (after several bleeds), the only possible way to make it work was to reduce the air pressure in the seatpost. Even with the air pressure at 150 psi it required some precise butt placement to get the A2 to drop. Rockshox is promoting the B1 at being more responsive to slacker seat tube angles. Does anyone have experience with this. Is the B1 less sensitive to seat and butt placement? Many times I find on the A2 it will only drop if I sit on the nose of the saddle. Just trying to figure if I should give the B1 a try or go with a completely different post.
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    How old is your post? Has it been serviced? I'm heavy and after one year of usage I was also only able to drop the A2 post by sitting on the nose of the saddle. The inner seal head bushing was worn. After servicing (basic kit was sufficient) it goes down much more easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnea View Post
    How old is your post? Has it been serviced? I'm heavy and after one year of usage I was also only able to drop the A2 post by sitting on the nose of the saddle. The inner seal head bushing was worn. After servicing (basic kit was sufficient) it goes down much more easily.
    My A2 is brand new. Bike Shop says they can replace it with a B1 or something else.
    Just trying to figure out what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JillRide45 View Post
    My A2 is brand new. Bike Shop says they can replace it with a B1 or something else.
    Just trying to figure out what to do.
    Really doesn't sound right. Maybe not getting bled properly???Unusual in my opinion.

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    My Reverb Stealth A2 got squishy so I decided to do a basic rebuild but when I did I noticed that the IFP was missing one of the two plastic guide rings. I don’t think my bike shop opened it up, perhaps it came this way from the factory…
    Anyway, this caused me to get the full rebuild kit so I could get the new black plastic IFP. Thankfully it worked and the post is back to proper working order.
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    I think that I have a faulty Reverb. It's had about 18 months use, probably seven or eight hundred hours and it still functions perfectly. How can that be?

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    Has anyone ever has a fizzing sound on their Reverb? I have the A2 and just did a full rebuild on it because it could be compressed and extended without the remote. When I bled the post, movement is great, however it sounds like air is pushing out of the bottom when compressing and extending... No loss of air pressure in the post itself though

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtang31 View Post
    Has anyone ever has a fizzing sound on their Reverb? I have the A2 and just did a full rebuild on it because it could be compressed and extended without the remote. When I bled the post, movement is great, however it sounds like air is pushing out of the bottom when compressing and extending... No loss of air pressure in the post itself though
    Thats pretty normal. Its the air in the outer tube been displaced as the seatpost is compressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtang31 View Post
    Has anyone ever has a fizzing sound on their Reverb? I have the A2 and just did a full rebuild on it because it could be compressed and extended without the remote. When I bled the post, movement is great, however it sounds like air is pushing out of the bottom when compressing and extending... No loss of air pressure in the post itself though
    I agree it is normal but I pinched an oring on the inner sealhead on my first rebuild a few years back. It is easy to do and I have even found new factory built ones with pinched orings. I had oil leaking out of those air holes in the main seal head when that happened. Just make sure there is no oil coming out of those air holes making your fizzing sound. Your post will work fine for a while until enough oil leaks from ifp chamber to stop post working. Just keep an eye on it.

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    So I bent the main shaft (stanchion) on my reverb. You can feel it begin to bind about 70mm into the 125mm of travel. Honestly it's not noticeable while riding but still sucks. Reverb will officially become the backup with fox transfer moving into full time status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by someoldfart View Post
    I think that I have a faulty Reverb. It's had about 18 months use, probably seven or eight hundred hours and it still functions perfectly. How can that be?
    I currently have 4 faulty ones just like yours, and another 2 on past bikes that were equally as faulty. Then again, I NEVER pick them up by the saddle when loading them in my truck unless the seat is FULLY extended.

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    I wish mine was "faulty" like yours. In for first full rebuild. This years model. Frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkrmike View Post
    I currently have 4 faulty ones just like yours, and another 2 on past bikes that were equally as faulty. Then again, I NEVER pick them up by the saddle when loading them in my truck unless the seat is FULLY extended.
    This seems like such a stupid thing to cause problems for an expensive component. Oops, I picked it up by the seat while not fully extended...oh no, my dropper post is now broken.

    On a more practical note, when posting whether you've had reverb failures (or successes), it would be interesting to know rider weight. I imagine heavier riders are causing more destruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin70 View Post
    This seems like such a stupid thing to cause problems for an expensive component. Oops, I picked it up by the seat while not fully extended...oh no, my dropper post is now broken.

    On a more practical note, when posting whether you've had reverb failures (or successes), it would be interesting to know rider weight. I imagine heavier riders are causing more destruction.
    Not sure of the failure rate (100%? 10%? 1%?) or the number of times the bike must be picked up by the seat when not fully extended (or how aggressively) for problems to occur. All I know is that the guys I know who have had problems have routinely picked their bikes up by the seat when not fully extended, and numerous mechanics have told me not to. Crap design? Possibly. Bad manual for including no warnings? Probably. But I simply comply with that one rule and life is good. Small price to pay for an incredible product (IMHO). I weigh 185 without gear. So not a Clyde, but no lightweight either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justin70 View Post
    This seems like such a stupid thing to cause problems for an expensive component. Oops, I picked it up by the seat while not fully extended...oh no, my dropper post is now broken.

    On a more practical note, when posting whether you've had reverb failures (or successes), it would be interesting to know rider weight. I imagine heavier riders are causing more destruction.
    I am In the Clyde spectrum at 105kg + riding gear and do have a severely reduced life on most components (mainly wheels till I started building my own). All of my mates and I run reverb posts. My post tends to wear out the brass keys where as theirs doesn't. Possibly worn brass keys allows more dirt to be ingested. I haven't had a bent post like some other heavier guys. I have around 10000km on my older reverb and have rebuilt it twice in that time which is pretty good IMO. I rebuild mine and my mates posts and on average we get 1 year out of them. I have done around 20 or so rebuilds all up now. Main issue seems to be dirt ingestion which wears the seals out. It's amazing how far those grains of dirt get into the system.
    Not sure how much of an issue rider weight really makes. I pick my bike up by the post all the time but I do make sure I extend it first only so it is easier to carry as my elbow can clear the frame. Also, non stealth reverbs lock both directions. You can't pull them up. Stealth posts have the internals arranged differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin70 View Post
    This seems like such a stupid thing to cause problems for an expensive component. Oops, I picked it up by the seat while not fully extended...oh no, my dropper post is now broken.

    On a more practical note, when posting whether you've had reverb failures (or successes), it would be interesting to know rider weight. I imagine heavier riders are causing more destruction.


    Picking the bike up by the seat is not causing anything. If it DOES, then it's an incredibly POORLY designed $400 piece of equipment that has no business being on a bicycle.

    If that is indeed RockShox's official reply to failures, they are even more incompetent at creating bicycle parts than I have ever given them credit for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DethWshBkr View Post
    Picking the bike up by the seat is not causing anything. If it DOES, then it's an incredibly POORLY designed $400 piece of equipment that has no business being on a bicycle.

    If that is indeed RockShox's official reply to failures, they are even more incompetent at creating bicycle parts than I have ever given them credit for.
    Every rider I know continues to choose a Reverb. Even the guys who have gone through rebuilds. Is it perfect? No. Is there anything better? I guess that's a matter of opinion. I love my Reverbs. I would not have a bike without a dropper and after having ridden numerous different ones, I still like the Reverb the best, warts and all. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and can spend their hard earned cash however they please.

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    I have two Reverbs, and a Fox Transfer.

    One reverb was repaired 6 times in less than 6 months, before finally being replaced under warranty. That unit lasted for 2 months before failing again and is still sitting in my basement in pieces.
    My second Reverb came on my Remedy, and has been repaired 3 times since I bought the bike in March 2015, with the last rebuild being sometime around October last year. I did have to bleed the remote three months ago after it got stuck in the down position, but I won't hold that against it too much.

    I'm just saying, if RockShox's OFFICIAL response to these sort of things is "it was lifted by the seat", they are incompetent at designing a product.

    If it is not an official response from RockShox, then it is not the cause of failure, and people need to quit saying it is.

    On mine, all failures (except the remote bleed) were the seal-head coming un-done, and the o-ring popping out.
    I was able to finally solve the problem by installing a larger (thicker diameter) o-ring from a hardware store.

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    I wanted to see how heavy my bike was so I weighed it with a luggage scale by the saddle today like you see every bike being weighed. Now there is a small knock, luckily its very small and probably wont notice it while riding but its new and wasnt there earlier. Im 99% sure it was fully extended as Im always careful with this fickle piece of crap since I know the horror stories and always try to avoid picking it up by the saddle/stanchion when possible.

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    Same here. I knew the RS post had that fatal design flaw so I always babied my post. Went on one ride last spring that had over 100 trees down and was endlessly dismounting and carrying my bike for 5 hours. ONE time I dismounted and accidentally picked my bike up by the saddle and it suddenly had 7 mm "sag." Super lame.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DethWshBkr View Post
    I have two Reverbs, and a Fox Transfer.

    One reverb was repaired 6 times in less than 6 months, before finally being replaced under warranty. That unit lasted for 2 months before failing again and is still sitting in my basement in pieces.
    My second Reverb came on my Remedy, and has been repaired 3 times since I bought the bike in March 2015, with the last rebuild being sometime around October last year. I did have to bleed the remote three months ago after it got stuck in the down position, but I won't hold that against it too much.

    I'm just saying, if RockShox's OFFICIAL response to these sort of things is "it was lifted by the seat", they are incompetent at designing a product.

    If it is not an official response from RockShox, then it is not the cause of failure, and people need to quit saying it is.

    On mine, all failures (except the remote bleed) were the seal-head coming un-done, and the o-ring popping out.
    I was able to finally solve the problem by installing a larger (thicker diameter) o-ring from a hardware store.
    Everyone with a reverb should buy the tools and do it themselves like you have done in the end. They will save a whole lot of trouble. The sealhead coming loose is so common and I have been guilty of it on my first rebuild. If you don't wipe the excess oil away from the o'ring before you tighten the last couple of turns it pops the o'ring out. It may just nick it and cause a slow death. It can also stop the sealhead being done up tight enough.

    Sounds like this is the cause of issues for so many people. I think half the problems would disappear if more care was taken during rebuilds. I am not the fastest at rebuilding them and probably wouldn't make any money doing it for a job but I know it is done properly. Once a year rebuilds for my post even though it ingests a fair bit of dirt.

    I also think poor rebuilds may be part of the cause of the pulling on the seat issue. I have been pulling up on mine and some of my friends ones since reading about it in this forum and I can't get any of them to fault. I think the o'ring issue on the sealhead allows oil to leak out but can also allow air to enter IFP chamber if the seat is pulled up. The vacuum created inside the post from pulling up on the seat would be pretty minor.

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    You may be right in cases where people have had rebuilds done, but the fact that new Reverbs experience the same failure is well known by bike shops and Rockshox themselves. RS sent out something like 400,000 posts last year and had replaced about 175,000 of them for the same issue as of early summer.

    There are naturally several different ways that a dropper can fail and rebuilding them periodically is going to be necessary, but the issue of picking the bike up by the saddle when not fully extended and having that instantly lead to air getting past the o-ring and the post "sagging" several mm when the rider puts his weight on the saddle... well documented at this point.

    So far, so good on my new generation RS Stealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velokid1 View Post
    You may be right in cases where people have had rebuilds done, but the fact that new Reverbs experience the same failure is well known by bike shops and Rockshox themselves. RS sent out something like 400,000 posts last year and had replaced about 175,000 of them for the same issue as of early summer.

    There are naturally several different ways that a dropper can fail and rebuilding them periodically is going to be necessary, but the issue of picking the bike up by the saddle when not fully extended and having that instantly lead to air getting past the o-ring and the post "sagging" several mm when the rider puts his weight on the saddle... well documented at this point.

    So far, so good on my new generation RS Stealth.
    wow, if that is acurate, getting close to 50%. How can you make any money on the product unless it costs like $2 to make? Givn all of the issues with it, maybe $2 is in the ballpark?


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    I for one am excited for e13's new all mechanical dropper. I can deal with the lack of infinite positions in exchange for light action remote and no seals to ever fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velokid1 View Post
    You may be right in cases where people have had rebuilds done, but the fact that new Reverbs experience the same failure is well known by bike shops and Rockshox themselves. RS sent out something like 400,000 posts last year and had replaced about 175,000 of them for the same issue as of early summer.

    There are naturally several different ways that a dropper can fail and rebuilding them periodically is going to be necessary, but the issue of picking the bike up by the saddle when not fully extended and having that instantly lead to air getting past the o-ring and the post "sagging" several mm when the rider puts his weight on the saddle... well documented at this point.

    So far, so good on my new generation RS Stealth.
    I have rebuilt a few new posts with pinched sealhead orings. Maybe they have a quality control issue. I have never had a post that I rebuilt come back before a full year. I am not saying there aren't other issues but the bulk seem to be related to poor assembly, new or old.

    This is not an unusual story of a great design let down by production quality control issues. I have seen it with other products over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niva1989 View Post
    I have rebuilt a few new posts with pinched sealhead orings. Maybe they have a quality control issue. I have never had a post that I rebuilt come back before a full year. I am not saying there aren't other issues but the bulk seem to be related to poor assembly, new or old.

    This is not an unusual story of a great design let down by production quality control issues. I have seen it with other products over the years.
    I agree that that's not an unusual story, but it's also not the story on the 2016 Reverb. If the design was so great that it wasn't to blame for the failures I described in my post (can't speak for other sort of failures/issues/damage), then why did Rockshox promptly improve the design of the new gold Reverbs?

    The Reverb is a fine seatpost, but the design was flawed. There was a flaw, Rockshox took a hit, many customers took a hit, Rockshox improved the design and here we are.

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    Ok guys am I right in thinking that a dropper will be usless for me, looking at how low my seat sits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    I for one am excited for e13's new all mechanical dropper. I can deal with the lack of infinite positions in exchange for light action remote and no seals to ever fail.
    What are they ripping off Gravity Dropper, but just made in China with no quality control?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Velokid1 View Post
    I agree that that's not an unusual story, but it's also not the story on the 2016 Reverb. If the design was so great that it wasn't to blame for the failures I described in my post (can't speak for other sort of failures/issues/damage), then why did Rockshox promptly improve the design of the new gold Reverbs?

    The Reverb is a fine seatpost, but the design was flawed. There was a flaw, Rockshox took a hit, many customers took a hit, Rockshox improved the design and here we are.
    No one has designed a perfect product that doesn't wear out yet. There is always a need for product improvement. It shows they are listening to feedback and trying to make the product better. I'd be more worried if the new model wasn't packed with improvements. The thing I like the most about RS is they don't treat us all like fools and actually make the full service info available. Parts are easy to come by and reasonably priced. At least when something does wear out you have the cheap and easy option of fixing it yourself. I keep a spare seal kit for my Reverbs, Lyrik, Pike, Debonair and Vivid Air. If something does go wrong it is fixed that night and I'm up and going again the next day. I'm a bit of a Clyde so I do wear components out quicker than most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nath26 View Post
    Ok guys am I right in thinking that a dropper will be usless for me, looking at how low my seat sits?
    I have a mate that does the same. He just gets up out of the seat to pedal and does ok. It depends on the riding you do. If you do heaps of climbing as well as descending on the same ride then you will benefit from a dropper. A dropper would get that seat of yours right out of the way even at that low starting height. It gives you more breathing space for the steeper descents and drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niva1989 View Post
    I have a mate that does the same. He just gets up out of the seat to pedal and does ok. It depends on the riding you do. If you do heaps of climbing as well as descending on the same ride then you will benefit from a dropper. A dropper would get that seat of yours right out of the way even at that low starting height. It gives you more breathing space for the steeper descents and drops.
    My point is this is the hight I like for pedaling, and with the extra top bit of a dropper think it would only drop like 50mm or less, is there any 50mm droppers? Or would I have to then set my hight every time I take the seat back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nath26 View Post
    My point is this is the hight I like for pedaling, and with the extra top bit of a dropper think it would only drop like 50mm or less, is there any 50mm droppers? Or would I have to then set my hight every time I take the seat back up.
    You can fit a collar to the post to limit the travel. I think they come with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niva1989 View Post
    You can fit a collar to the post to limit the travel. I think they come with one.
    Ah righto didn't know that could be done thanks bud, il have a look into getting one then iv plenty of time till my new trance 3 gets here 😕

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    The coller is only to limit the stop point for where they drop. It will still raise to high.. You would have to set the highth everytime. I think there are some 80 mm droppers out there. I ran into the same issue trying to put a dropper on my cyclocross bike..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho1 View Post
    The coller is only to limit the stop point for where they drop. It will still raise to high.. You would have to set the highth everytime. I think there are some 80 mm droppers out there. I ran into the same issue trying to put a dropper on my cyclocross bike..
    That's all Nath26 wants to do. He is happy with the fully extended height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nath26 View Post
    Ah righto didn't know that could be done thanks bud, il have a look into getting one then iv plenty of time till my new trance 3 gets here 😕
    Ok. Trance 3 will be awesome. My cousin has one. Much slacker than the old Trance from a few years back.

    Psycho1 made me think a bit more and if you decide to fit a dropper you will have to be careful that you can get your pedalling height out of the fully extended dropper. Will take a bit more research to work out which length post will allow you to have it low enough in the fully extended state. Looking at your photo I think it will be close. The newer Reverb doesn't have as many post length options as the older one. You could possibly fit an internal spacer. There is room but I'm not sure if that would cause a problem with anything else in the system. I'm sure someone else has done it before.

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    I think from the pictures of the bike. A fully extended post of say 125 will put the post much higher than the current spot they ride at. I might be misunderstanding what they are looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho1 View Post
    I think from the pictures of the bike. A fully extended post of say 125 will put the post much higher than the current spot they ride at. I might be misunderstanding what they are looking for.
    No. I think I misunderstood. The height in the picture is his pedalling/climbing saddle height. I think possibly the bike frame size might be too big. Its hard to tell from a photo whether a 125mm dropper would be too high. I think you could fit a spacer to limit the extension but would take some research.

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    Thanks for all the info guys, just to be clear, yes that's my preferred ride hight so if a dropper sits higher than this fully extended it will just be a hassle to use. I think I could pedal just fine with it a bit higher as iv got used to having it a bit lower for the DH and like the room to move. My spicy in the pic is a medium and got stolen but think lappiere bikes are a bit over sized compared to most so my trance that's coming also a medium could be a bit smaller and give me more room to play with for a dropper. So I'm best to just wait and see when I get it, cheers guys 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nath26 View Post
    Thanks for all the info guys, just to be clear, yes that's my preferred ride hight so if a dropper sits higher than this fully extended it will just be a hassle to use. I think I could pedal just fine with it a bit higher as iv got used to having it a bit lower for the DH and like the room to move. My spicy in the pic is a medium and got stolen but think lappiere bikes are a bit over sized compared to most so my trance that's coming also a medium could be a bit smaller and give me more room to play with for a dropper. So I'm best to just wait and see when I get it, cheers guys 👍
    That sucks. I hate hearing about low life scum stealing bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niva1989 View Post
    That sucks. I hate hearing about low life scum stealing bikes.
    Yeah I was gutted, stole it off my fisrt floor balcony too ffs, chuffed I'm getting a new trance that's only costing me £200 tho 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by picko990 View Post
    good to know Yody...

    has anyone else swapped out the green seal for this big black o-ring in your stealth post?


    would be interested to hear how it is going.

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    I've just pulled my A2 Stealth apart and replaced the green u-cup seal with the black o'ring included in the inner seal head bag in the basic service kit; mainly on the advice of this guy here: The Seatpost Whisperer | Blue Liquid Labs

    He also has lots of other good advice; like removing the valve core when tightening down the inner seal head to prevent the o'ring getting pushed into the threads, and milling up polymer bushes to replace the crappy Teflon coated ones...

    How's your "o'ring substituted for u-cup seal posts" going?

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    RockShox Reverb Thread

    I guess no one else works on these things anymore
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    Are the NEW 2016 internals available as an upgrade for 2015 droppers? My 5010 V2 dropper post is having issues with dropping and returning.

    I did a quick search and didn't see an answer so go easy on the flaming.

    EDventure

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    Quote Originally Posted by edbraunbeck View Post
    Are the NEW 2016 internals available as an upgrade for 2015 droppers? My 5010 V2 dropper post is having issues with dropping and returning.

    I did a quick search and didn't see an answer so go easy on the flaming.

    EDventure
    According to Pinkbike the IFP can be upgraded to the latest and greatest.

    The new piston is also included in RockShox Reverb rebuild kits, so customers who send their posts in for service will automatically receive the upgrade.

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