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    This is an amazing post!!!!

    That being said, I don't feel it performs any better than the i-series or supernatural. I guess, technically, it shouldn't.

    Hopefully the price will come down soon and the availability goes up! If I buy again, soon, I'll probably just get the Supernatural instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djball View Post
    Does anyone know when the Lev Integra(stealth) version will be available?
    I didn't see this answered anywhere - Since I'm in the market and deciding between the LEV and the Reverb I emailed KS today about Integra aftermarket availability and was told "A few months."

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    So...I figured out what that creaking noise was! I am an idiot, and the noise was rocks grinding around in my skull where my brain should be.

    But seriously, I just didn't have my torque wrench set correctly so the bolts weren't tight enough on the seat clamp. Properly torqued them and problem solved.
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    My seat in climbing position is 130mm from the seat post collar. The 100mm version extends 157mm past the color when the post is set as far down as possible. Having it extend 27mm too high every time I release the post, would this be a deal breaker? Looking to get feedback from those who have it, before I pull the trigger and order one. Anyone else find themselves in this situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW-Rider View Post
    My seat in climbing position is 130mm from the seat post collar. The 100mm version extends 157mm past the color when the post is set as far down as possible. Having it extend 27mm too high every time I release the post, would this be a deal breaker? Looking to get feedback from those who have it, before I pull the trigger and order one. Anyone else find themselves in this situation?

    Thanks,
    Check this image from KS and then measure from seatpost collar to saddle rails. You basically need to add travel (100mm) + post head (22mm) + cable/collar (35mm), and compare that to your own measurement. I've included a pic of my 100mm travel post below, with a total height collar to rails of 185mm.






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    Quote Originally Posted by NW-Rider View Post
    Having it extend 27mm too high every time I release the post, would this be a deal breaker? Looking to get feedback from those who have it, before I pull the trigger and order one. Anyone else find themselves in this situation?

    Thanks,
    You'll be able to stop the seatpost wherever you want. The only time the seatpost would be fully extended, in your case, is if you inadvertantly press the lever when you aren't above the seat to stop it. Plus 27mm is only an inch so it should be an easy recovery even if the post becomed fully extended while you're riding.
    The only downfall is that you'll just have to be over the seat while you extend the post.
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    deal breaker...

    I'd get the 300mm Supernatural. It functions equally as well and you wont have to hunt for the proper seat height.
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    May wanna try running a simple/thin seatpost collar/clamp that allows the LEV to be lowered maximally, ie the clamp and the LEV junction box do not make contact when the LEV is pushed all the way into the seat tube. This would buy you another 24mm.
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    Supernatural seatpost rail holder is flawed. I have a friend who snaps the bolts from time to time. Last time was yesterday and luckily he got some spare bolts.

    Bolts are on left and right, working in a bad mechanical way (shear). It was quality steel bolts (not even stainless which are worse). Even using loctite did not prevent it.

    No problem with the LEV (I have one), the bolts are front and behind, this way no shear problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac_Aravan View Post
    Supernatural seatpost rail holder is flawed. I have a friend who snaps the bolts from time to time. Last time was yesterday and luckily he got some spare bolts.

    Bolts are on left and right, working in a bad mechanical way (shear). It was quality steel bolts (not even stainless which are worse). Even using loctite did not prevent it.

    No problem with the LEV (I have one), the bolts are front and behind, this way no shear problem.
    I have 3 supernaturals. Never had a problem, not a creak, not a groan. And I'm a fatty. I've never heard of bolts breaking, if that was really a systemic problem, someone would've posted it here at some point in the last 3 years...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NW-Rider View Post
    My seat in climbing position is 130mm from the seat post collar. The 100mm version extends 157mm past the color when the post is set as far down as possible. Having it extend 27mm too high every time I release the post, would this be a deal breaker? Looking to get feedback from those who have it, before I pull the trigger and order one. Anyone else find themselves in this situation?

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    Why don't you raise your current seat post 27mm and ride around to see if you will get used to it? My legs stretch after I ride for a while so my seat post seems like it is a little too high when I start a ride but about 20 minutes in, the seat post height is perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randan View Post
    anvil_den: do you still use the Joplin remote with your KS LEV? If so, how do you like it so far? I am thinking of switching as well to the Joplin remote as I don't like the KS remote that much.
    Yup. still on the Joplin remote. In fact I have another bike which I'm thinking of changing as well... but they don't sell them anymore. Closest to the old Joplin remote are the ones used in Xfusion HiLo adj posts...

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    Any difference in 2013 vs 2012 besides color? Which is which?
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    The upper picture is how my KS LEV 150 looks, bought new in late March 2013.

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    KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?

    Thanks. I wonder if the listings and stores that show the silver one are selling old stock or if they just haven't updated their photos. I'll call KS and post if I hear.
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    I have two KS LEV's, a 125 and a 100. The 125 was bought at the end of 2012 from pricepoint and looks exactly like the top photo. The 100 was bought a few months ago from bikebling and looks similar to the top photo except it has a different collar. The collar on the 100 is smoother, but has LEV printed on it. Everything else is the same as the top photo.

    So far, they both work flawlessly.
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    QBP and BTi are still out of stock of the 150mm. This is silly. I've been trying to get one for over a year.
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    A few questions for those who have had a LEV for a while:

    -Is there any actual solution to the problem of the seat slipping? Mine creaks like crazy and I have to re-tighten multiple times per ride. I recall the install video using carbon paste on the nuts, so maybe I'll give that a try.
    -Does anyone have the size of the cover O-ring? Mine, like everyone else's has torn.
    -Mine was always challenging to lower (I'd have to pretty much bounce on it) and now it's stuck up (used it maybe half a dozen rides). Is there anything to try prior to following the service instructions/sending back to K&S?
    -It would return to full extension fine, unless I only lowered it a small amount, in which case it wouldn't go up at all. I made sure that the seatpost clamp was as loose as I could get away with but no change. Is this normal?

    It seems like a nice product and it gets great reviews, but so far I've had issues with almost every function of this thing (and it's a seatpost...there aren't many!). Hopefully I can get it sorted out, because it's great when it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt View Post
    QBP and BTi are still out of stock of the 150mm. This is silly. I've been trying to get one for over a year.
    I don't know what QBP and BTi are, but why not order from someone who has them? I ordered from Bike Bling and paid $313 for the 150mm with their coupon code and it was in in less than a week.

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    A few questions for those who have had a LEV for a while:

    -Is there any actual solution to the problem of the seat slipping? Mine creaks like crazy and I have to re-tighten multiple times per ride. I recall the install video using carbon paste on the nuts, so maybe I'll give that a try.
    I used to have that problem, but I was not tightening the bolts to proper torque. If you're sure the setting is right on your torque wrench, maybe try someone else's or the LBS.

    -Does anyone have the size of the cover O-ring? Mine, like everyone else's has torn.
    I've never had a problem with the O-ring or the cover, so not "everyone" has this problem. In fact, after I got the cable cut to the right length, there's been no reason to ever remove it?

    -Mine was always challenging to lower (I'd have to pretty much bounce on it) and now it's stuck up (used it maybe half a dozen rides). Is there anything to try prior to following the service instructions/sending back to K&S?
    Again, I've never had a problem with lowering the saddle. Just hit the lever and sit on the saddle. It sounds like some people had problems when a)they installed the hook backwards, b)tightened the post collar too much. If neither of these is the case, it sounds like the post needs to be sent back to KS as it is not functioning properly.

    -It would return to full extension fine, unless I only lowered it a small amount, in which case it wouldn't go up at all. I made sure that the seatpost clamp was as loose as I could get away with but no change. Is this normal?
    Again, I'd say that if the installation of the hook is correct and seat post clamp is correct, it sounds like you got a bad post. It happens, so it may be time to talk to KS about an RMA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt View Post
    QBP and BTi are still out of stock of the 150mm. This is silly. I've been trying to get one for over a year.
    UniversalCycles.com has the 150mm in 31.6mm, but it looks like they are out of 30.9. That's where I ordered mine from with coupon code "VIP15" for 15% off, no tax, and free shipping.
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    Thanks. O-ring was definitely my fault. I opened it after the seat stopped going down to make sure there was nothing obviously wrong and that the cable pull was sufficient to disengage the "lock". O-ring looks to be 1mm thick and 20mm ID if anyone else needs one.

    Seat slips all the way forward when tightened to spec and also when tightened about as much as I'm comfortable doing without fear of stripping threads etc.

    Hook is installed correctly (facing out) and post is clamped as gently as I can get away with without having it slide.

    Thanks for the suggestions, I'll probably be in contact with KS about an RMA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anvil_den View Post

    Never liked the lock ring remote. Simply bad ergonomics needing to remove finger from brakes to activate it. Hybridize my LEV with a remote from an old Joplin instead.

    I think perhaps you had the KS remote installed backwards or upside down. It is THUMB actuated, thus no need to remove any fingers from brake lever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hrdude View Post
    After removing & inspecting, the internal cable wore out and broke. The internal cable is made from kevlar or some type of fiber string material. Friction from moving the post up and down wore through the fibers until it broke. Unless they've recently changed the cable material it looks like this could be a regular yearly issue. Other than this, it has been a great dropper post.
    KS was quick to provide an RMA number & I've shipped the post back for warranty repair.
    The LEV is the best post I have had to date (Several Joplins and a KS Supernatural) but my internal cable broke last week too. Off to KS USA for a quick fix. Lasted 8 months of solid use.

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    Follow up to the picture question:
    I just spoke with Ron @ KS. The picture with the silver is an older promo/proto picture that is still floating around. They're all black now. The newer/current models come with a smooth collar. The knurled ones were the late 2012 early 2013 version. No internal differences.
    That's AFAIR.
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    Anybody know of any foam lock on grips that are compatible with ODI clamps so I can integrate the remote?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebarker9 View Post
    A few questions for those who have had a LEV for a while:


    -Mine was always challenging to lower (I'd have to pretty much bounce on it) and now it's stuck up (used it maybe half a dozen rides). Is there anything to try prior to following the service instructions/sending back to K&S?
    -It would return to full extension fine, unless I only lowered it a small amount, in which case it wouldn't go up at all. I made sure that the seatpost clamp was as loose as I could get away with but no change. Is this normal?
    Check the hook to see if you have any of the wire sticking out. It is supposed to be flush. I installed one of mine and it acted screwy until I made sure the wire was flush. Mine only had a tiny bit sticking out and it had an effect on the operation of the post, so make sure you cut the wire to the correct length, and that it is flush in the hook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumpy View Post
    I think perhaps you had the KS remote installed backwards or upside down. It is THUMB actuated, thus no need to remove any fingers from brake lever.
    FYI, I've had adjustable seatposts in all shapes and configurations.. Have mounted the KS lever both ways, that is you can push down (like how most install it) or push up when mounted in reverse. Thing is not everyone has long fingers and thumbs.

    I tend to grip to the end of bars with more levers more inboun using 1 finger-- so that kinda stretches the thumb more. To get the lever (conventional direction of installation) in a comfortable position enough to go with thumb will make the cable exit angle way too much upward. Messy and dorky looking up front as a result.

    To each his own. Anyway this hybrid with a Joplin remote on the underside works well in this particular case without front shift lever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anvil_den View Post
    Messy and dorky looking up front as a result.
    OK cool.

    But that's a matter of aesthetics not ergonomics.
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    I solved that problem with the use of a 2€ brake noodle. Looks clean and usable in both directions.

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    Mine pretty much looks like that without a noodle. I also located the barrel adjuster down by my shock mount for a cleaner look.
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    I just upgraded to the Lev from the i900r. First ride of the season on the i900r and I blew the cartridge inside the post. It did well though, lasting me 2 full seasons with on average 3-4 rides per week. I used the post alot.

    I've done one ride with the new Lev and I have to say it has a better feel than my 900, it seems more responsive to the lever, and comes up / goes down a bit smoother.

    I'm mechanically challenged so it took me nearly 1.5 hours to install it on my bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haymarket View Post
    I don't know what QBP and BTi are, but why not order from someone who has them? I ordered from Bike Bling and paid $313 for the 150mm with their coupon code and it was in in less than a week.
    What's the coupon code? QBP & BTi are the main distributors that a bike shop would get a KS from but if I can't get one from my shop I'll go online.
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    KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?

    I got mine from pricepoint for cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt View Post
    What's the coupon code? QBP & BTi are the main distributors that a bike shop would get a KS from but if I can't get one from my shop I'll go online.
    15off300

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumpy View Post
    OK cool.

    But that's a matter of aesthetics not ergonomics.
    If you bothered to read the rest, obviously ergonomics is the bigger factor. Seeing the setup of your bike I guess it boils down to that we do very different kind of riding. Can understand how your setup of the lever doesn't really bother you

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    KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Haymarket View Post
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    That is the best deal I have seen in 2+ weeks of searching. Comes in under $300 delivered. If they have them in stock and you want one, do it. Beat my deal by ~$15. Seems like they're in short supply.
    I hope I even like dropper posts. I'm diving in on testimonials and the epiphany that wow, my seat really is in the way frequently.
    Thanks for all the input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haymarket View Post
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    Thanks, that's a rediculous deal. Close to wholesale. I got 2 to replace the 5" Reverb and i950 on my FR & XC bikes. Anyone want a cheap Reverb or i950, 31.6?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anvil_den View Post
    If you bothered to read the rest, obviously ergonomics is the bigger factor. Seeing the setup of your bike I guess it boils down to that we do very different kind of riding. Can understand how your setup of the lever doesn't really bother you
    Not trying to argue, but I read all of it. You said when you place the lever where it fits your ergonomics, you don't care for the aesthetics - which is fine. To each his own.

    But to claim that using the remote requires one to take fingers off of the brake lever is uh - odd, to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_strom View Post
    That is the best deal I have seen in 2+ weeks of searching. Comes in under $300 delivered. If they have them in stock and you want one, do it. Beat my deal by ~$15. Seems like they're in short supply.
    I hope I even like dropper posts. I'm diving in on testimonials and the epiphany that wow, my seat really is in the way frequently.
    Thanks for all the input.
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    As a natural skeptic of all things, not just dropper posts, I was in the same boat. I had doubts about the benefits, but figured I'd never know for sure until I got a good post and rode with it regularly. I can say that after a couple months, it's changed my riding for the better and I wouldn't want to ride without it, except on a purely tame gravel road or easy XC ride. There's a few reasons why I feel that it has improved my riding:

    1. Immediately faster times on the downhills. Not that I care too much about times, but that's just what the numbers showed with no other changes to the bike.

    2. I was running my normal seat about 1/2" too low with the fixed post. I think this was because I was trying to get a "happy medium" between pedaling efficiency and ability to get behind the seat for the DH sections. Now I'm running at the correct height, and it's much easier on the knees and my times are better on the hill climbs.

    3. DH sections are more fun with the seat out of the way, once I got used to it. Now I can ride with a lower center of gravity with my weight properly balance between front and rear tires instead of having my butt hanging over the rear wheel. It's more confidence inspiring on the steep drops and technical sections because I don't feel the seat is going to hit me in the rear.

    4. Just within the past couple weeks, I've been lowering the seat for fast flowy sections. The ability to get lower on the bike and have a lower center of gravity makes it a lot easier to dig into the corners. Fun factor ++!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPBakerIII View Post
    Check the hook to see if you have any of the wire sticking out. It is supposed to be flush. I installed one of mine and it acted screwy until I made sure the wire was flush. Mine only had a tiny bit sticking out and it had an effect on the operation of the post, so make sure you cut the wire to the correct length, and that it is flush in the hook.
    Thanks. I pulled the cover and just pulled the cable by hand and it works fine, so there must have been just enough cable stretch or the cable slipped under the setscrew. Either way, cable shortened ever so slightly and I'm back in business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_strom View Post
    That is the best deal I have seen in 2+ weeks of searching. Comes in under $300 delivered. If they have them in stock and you want one, do it. Beat my deal by ~$15. Seems like they're in short supply.
    I hope I even like dropper posts. I'm diving in on testimonials and the epiphany that wow, my seat really is in the way frequently.
    Thanks for all the input.
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    I reckon you will love it, the dropper post has really improved my riding skills, and the rides are even more fun with the seat out of the way on the downs

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    thanks Haymarket, I just ordered the 150mm.

    there is just about 8" between my seat collar and the seat rail currently at max height. you think that's cutting it close with the 150mm LEV? (total length will not be an issue.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt View Post
    Thanks, that's a rediculous deal. Close to wholesale. I got 2 to replace the 5" Reverb and i950 on my FR & XC bikes. Anyone want a cheap Reverb or i950, 31.6?
    Maybe I missed it - why the switch from the reverb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbabuser View Post
    Maybe I missed it - why the switch from the reverb?
    For 6" drop instead of 5". On this bike the cable routing was really clean so the stationary cable isn't much of an upgrade but at my height 5" just wasn't enough difference between my climbing and descending heights. Now I can ditch the QR and only have to drop the post farther for serious jumping.

    On my trail bike where it's replacing the i950 the routing wasn't as ideal so the LEV cleaned things up a lot but that extra inch was the real reason for buying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    As a natural skeptic of all things, not just dropper posts, I was in the same boat. I had doubts about the benefits, but figured I'd never know for sure until I got a good post and rode with it regularly. I can say that after a couple months, it's changed my riding for the better and I wouldn't want to ride without it, except on a purely tame gravel road or easy XC ride. There's a few reasons why I feel that it has improved my riding:

    1. Immediately faster times on the downhills. Not that I care too much about times, but that's just what the numbers showed with no other changes to the bike.

    2. I was running my normal seat about 1/2" too low with the fixed post. I think this was because I was trying to get a "happy medium" between pedaling efficiency and ability to get behind the seat for the DH sections. Now I'm running at the correct height, and it's much easier on the knees and my times are better on the hill climbs.

    3. DH sections are more fun with the seat out of the way, once I got used to it. Now I can ride with a lower center of gravity with my weight properly balance between front and rear tires instead of having my butt hanging over the rear wheel. It's more confidence inspiring on the steep drops and technical sections because I don't feel the seat is going to hit me in the rear.

    4. Just within the past couple weeks, I've been lowering the seat for fast flowy sections. The ability to get lower on the bike and have a lower center of gravity makes it a lot easier to dig into the corners. Fun factor ++!
    Ditto to all of the above.

    The ability to get over the rear tire makes it SOOOOOOO much easier to attack rough DH sections at higher speeds than before.
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    I got a 27.2 today with 100mm drop. I was very excited about it and stoked to get my NS Surge stepped up a level and ready for some serious fun. Unfortunately, the post has effectively no air pressure and so it does not return on it's own without getting off the bike and pulling it up. (In all fairness, it functions just fine as a "dropper" post. Unfortunately, it doesn't work at all as a "riser" post...) In and of itself, it's a bummer getting a broken post straight out of the box. Much more frustrating is the response from KS which was effectively that I could mail it to them (my cost) and they would get it fixed and send it back. So on top of buying a very expensive post, I get some added cost, added wait time, and added frustration.

    Apparently KS can brag that they cost more because they are "the best," but they can't afford to send out a UPS label for a broken brand new product. Maybe I've just gotten spoiled by dealing with other companies with better customer service.

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    There is an air valve on the top of the post, underneath the seat clamp. Part of the installation is checking to make sure it has the correct pressure. Did you check it?

    Quote Originally Posted by hartwerks View Post
    I got a 27.2 today with 100mm drop. I was very excited about it and stoked to get my NS Surge stepped up a level and ready for some serious fun. Unfortunately, the post has effectively no air pressure and so it does not return on it's own without getting off the bike and pulling it up. (In all fairness, it functions just fine as a "dropper" post. Unfortunately, it doesn't work at all as a "riser" post...) In and of itself, it's a bummer getting a broken post straight out of the box. Much more frustrating is the response from KS which was effectively that I could mail it to them (my cost) and they would get it fixed and send it back. So on top of buying a very expensive post, I get some added cost, added wait time, and added frustration.

    Apparently KS can brag that they cost more because they are "the best," but they can't afford to send out a UPS label for a broken brand new product. Maybe I've just gotten spoiled by dealing with other companies with better customer service.
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    KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    There is an air valve on the top of the post, underneath the seat clamp. Part of the installation is checking to make sure it has the correct pressure. Did you check it?
    Unfortunately, there is no air valve and no adjustable air pressure on the 27.2 version of the LEV. It is preset at the factory. There seems to be a sealing issue in the Taiwan factory, and KS is aware of it.

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    Ah, that sucks! They really should send you a new post AND a return label...none of that RMA BS.

    Quote Originally Posted by hartwerks View Post
    Unfortunately, there is no air valve and no adjustable air pressure on the 27.2 version of the LEV. It is preset at the factory. There seems to be a sealing issue in the Taiwan factory, and KS is aware of it.
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