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    I'd imagine that a tight braid would act like a spring where as a loose braid would maintain the original length. Perhaps an alternative to braiding would be to put a light twist into the three strands.

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    Well, I just got my KS lev back and am debating whether to put it back on. The temps have dropped in the NE and my ridding temps are now usually sub 30oF. Rumors are that these post don't work well in cold temps. Any truth to this?
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    A little slower on the return, but working fine her in Central VT with below freezing temps

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelo View Post
    A little slower on the return, but working fine her in Central VT with below freezing temps
    That is great news. Back on it goes!!!
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    Went on a ride yesterday at 10degrees and my seat started to not stick halfway through my ride. Now it moves by hand up an inch plus and down an inch plus.?.

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    Actually I can press it all the way down

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    Quote Originally Posted by slyfink View Post
    anyone know if the LEV Integra utilizes the kevlar cable from the "regular" LEV? Seems like the weak spot in this design and I'm tired of getting it fixed.... would consider upgrading to the Integra if it does away with this feature....
    In case anyone is interested, and for future reference, the Integra still has the kevlar cord. I just got confirmation from KS via email.
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    ^That doesn't make sense. The cable enters straight into the bottom of the post, right? Maybe it's a short length of cord that makes a straight shot from the cable to the mechanism? Still, it just doesn't seem necessary with the Integra design.
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    ^That's what I thought too. Kinda dissapointed. I had the LEV cable come loose 4x in the past year. It's a pain in the @ss. I'm sending it to KS over the winter, and I'll give it a try next year. If it's not improved, perhaps an internally routed Thompson is in my future...
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    Ha! You're kidding me. Sorry, I'm a newbie and fascinated by the tech that goes into a bike. It's a beautiful thing. Awesome bike by the way. Absolutely gorgeous.

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    Sheesh, I am having the worst luck with companies standing behind their products lately. This story- 2013 Pivot 429 with upgrades including the LEV. 3 weeks in, Kevlar cable quites.

    Sent it to KS with the repair authorization, no response. 2 email requests to confirm receipt- no response.

    I emailed Pivot and asked if they could try to find out if KS at least received it- the dood at Pivot e-mailed me that KS says they didn't get it- but still no response from KS.

    I tracked the Shipping- and in fact- KS received my LEV on November 15th.

    2 more emails to KS- no response.

    It's frustrating because when they don't respond when you are polite and respectful, they say you are at fault when you stop being polite and respectful- which I haven't done yet.

    But honestly- for F's sake, an email saying they'ere looking for it would go a long way right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibrato View Post
    Sheesh, I am having the worst luck with companies standing behind their products lately. This story- 2013 Pivot 429 with upgrades including the LEV. 3 weeks in, Kevlar cable quites.

    Sent it to KS with the repair authorization, no response. 2 email requests to confirm receipt- no response.

    I emailed Pivot and asked if they could try to find out if KS at least received it- the dood at Pivot e-mailed me that KS says they didn't get it- but still no response from KS.

    I tracked the Shipping- and in fact- KS received my LEV on November 15th.

    2 more emails to KS- no response.

    It's frustrating because when they don't respond when you are polite and respectful, they say you are at fault when you stop being polite and respectful- which I haven't done yet.

    But honestly- for F's sake, an email saying they'ere looking for it would go a long way right now.
    You using the contact form on the website or Ricks personal email. Most people deal with him directly. I have no idea if this email is current: rtaylor1@cox.net
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    Anyone else have trouble putting the top bushing back in after removing the cartridge from the body?
    Their video shows it just 'falling in' which can't be actual, considering it takes a definite pull to dislodge with the copper keys on the way out...

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    Mystery solved... The du bush had come out of the silver collar.
    Second disassembly the du bush and collar came out in one go.
    My post was very slow to return, followed a thread on the older post, someone had increased the inside diameter of the silver collar when the du bush is out. I did the same and now the action is nice and smooth. Risk of increasing play but it needs to return quickly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelo View Post
    A little slower on the return, but working fine her in Central VT with below freezing temps
    I have a Lev on all my bikes and had no problems until now.
    I installed a Lev on my Fat Bike and it will not work at any temp. under 25 deg. I think it gets frozen. So now I'm going to take it off until Spring.
    Now dropper for the Winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage View Post
    You using the contact form on the website or Ricks personal email. Most people deal with him directly. I have no idea if this email is current: rtaylor1@cox.net
    Got an e-mail Friday- they found it! Sweet news to my ears!
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    My first dropper is on the way! And it's a Lev 125!

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    My first dropper. KS Lev 125mm, I bought it from Artscyclery as part of the Black Friday deal.
    Long story short, I just installed it. It hasn't even seen a dirt! First thing I noticed, it goes up on its own without touching the lever when dropped. And when fully extended and I sit down, it drops about an inch. WTF is this !@#$? I'm still gonna test ride it tomorrow "hoping" it can still work somehow. But !@#$, I'm beyond frustrated.

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    Sounds like you need to fine tune the cable connection... Make sure it's trimmed off well so it's not interfering with the return position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toingtoing View Post
    My first dropper. KS Lev 125mm, I bought it from Artscyclery as part of the Black Friday deal.
    Long story short, I just installed it. It hasn't even seen a dirt! First thing I noticed, it goes up on its own without touching the lever when dropped. And when fully extended and I sit down, it drops about an inch. WTF is this !@#$? I'm still gonna test ride it tomorrow "hoping" it can still work somehow. But !@#$, I'm beyond frustrated.
    Sounds like you might have too much tension. Did you leave 22mm of inner line longer than the cable housing and install the hook correctly? Check to make sure the barbed ferrule is seated on the cable junction box cover correctly. Pull down on the cable put the junction box in and then seat the barbed ferrule in the slot on top of the junction box cover.

    It sounds to me like you have so much tension that seatpost isn't staying locked. Did you make sure to give yourself enough free line to turn the handlebars all the way in both directions without pulling on the line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toingtoing View Post
    My first dropper. KS Lev 125mm, I bought it from Artscyclery as part of the Black Friday deal.
    Long story short, I just installed it. It hasn't even seen a dirt! First thing I noticed, it goes up on its own without touching the lever when dropped. And when fully extended and I sit down, it drops about an inch. WTF is this !@#$? I'm still gonna test ride it tomorrow "hoping" it can still work somehow. But !@#$, I'm beyond frustrated.
    Quote Originally Posted by JPBakerIII View Post
    Sounds like you might have too much tension. Did you leave 22mm of inner line longer than the cable housing and install the hook correctly? Check to make sure the barbed ferrule is seated on the cable junction box cover correctly. Pull down on the cable put the junction box in and then seat the barbed ferrule in the slot on top of the junction box cover.

    It sounds to me like you have so much tension that seatpost isn't staying locked. Did you make sure to give yourself enough free line to turn the handlebars all the way in both directions without pulling on the line?

    Hope that helps.
    Thanks, that's what may have happened but I did not do anything else but to play around with it for a bit more. Test rode it to a 20mile ride with steep, loose, techy descents and long climbs. Everything went well, no issues now.

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    One more question.
    I've buyed my Lev from one my acquaintance, for a good price, but when he shipped it, i've realized, that it's a oem version!
    Can someone explain the difference, except different remote lever and liner colour?

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    Only the lever is different in the OEM version. The internals and the post itself are the same.

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    Oh, i see. Thanks. I've start to worrying about my new "toy" because of it's oem type.
    Retail version lever preferable for me - i have lock-on compatible grips, but anyway it'll works. As soon as i get it - i'll leave a comment about Lev too.

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    Today i've finally get my Lev DX.
    And i have questions.
    First of all, according to manual i can rotate seatpost around, for cable orientation. In many positions (each 20 degrees) in Lev case and in 6 positions in Lev DX case. Here's a picture from manual:
    KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?-2013-12-28_1609.png
    But i cant understand how to manage it, here how looks my seatposts upper part:
    KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?-img_1138.jpgKS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?-img_1139.jpg
    And one more question about sideplay. My seatpost have sideplay for 1mm on saddle tip. It is normal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimon Hell View Post
    Today i've finally get my Lev DX.
    And i have questions.

    And one more question about sideplay. My seatpost have sideplay for 1mm on saddle tip. It is normal?
    A little bit of play is normal. its not noticeable when you're riding.
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    Yeap, 10x! Already find out that!
    Also find out, that Lev DX cable position can be adjusted only via disassembling, so i can handle current position.
    Check out few pics:
    KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?-img_1152.jpg KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?-img_1156.jpg KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?-img_1153.jpg KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?-img_1150.jpg

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    Guys,

    Does anybody know how can I get the KS Lev kevlar cord and some plastic pellets? The authorized dealer in our country pretty shite, and far from me, I don't want to travel 160 km just to get 10 cm of cord and 2 pellets from him... I need to replace the cord, since the original broke, and the kevlar string I'm currently using fails every 50 uses, so I have to open the whole thing and tense it again and again...

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    KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?

    You can use any gear cable and housing, and cable I am currently using standard Shimano housing and ferrules on mine and it's actually working better than it was with the KS supplied stuff. Any LBS will be able to sell you this by the metre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aba Grizzly View Post
    Guys,

    Does anybody know how can I get the KS Lev kevlar cord and some plastic pellets? The authorized dealer in our country pretty shite, and far from me, I don't want to travel 160 km just to get 10 cm of cord and 2 pellets from him... I need to replace the cord, since the original broke, and the kevlar string I'm currently using fails every 50 uses, so I have to open the whole thing and tense it again and again...
    You can use kelvar fishing line to replace the cord, I had been using it so far so good.
    Sending back to KS is PITA! They don't care about their customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingRevolution View Post
    You can use any gear cable and housing, and cable I am currently using standard Shimano housing and ferrules on mine and it's actually working better than it was with the KS supplied stuff. Any LBS will be able to sell you this by the metre.
    Sorry, this is not the case here. I'm talking about inner kevlar waxed cord, that KS uses for Lev, and not the outer cable with a housing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohnice View Post
    You can use kelvar fishing line to replace the cord, I had been using it so far so good.
    Sending back to KS is PITA! They don't care about their customers.
    This is exactly what I do for now, but I've tested it for stretching - each 20 cm gives 1 cm stretch once pulled, and that causes the post to fail on different, unexpected occasions. I agree with the service though - wrote them yesterday, no answer yet. (((

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    KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aba Grizzly View Post
    Sorry, this is not the case here. I'm talking about inner kevlar waxed cord, that KS uses for Lev, and not the outer cable with a housing.
    Yeah sorry, I both misunderstood your post and was reading it as a problem with the Integra version which can use a standard gear cable. My bad. Good luck with a fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohnice View Post
    They don't care about their customers.
    I've never had a problem with them... Maybe they just don't like you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aba Grizzly View Post
    This is exactly what I do for now, but I've tested it for stretching - each 20 cm gives 1 cm stretch once pulled, and that causes the post to fail on different, unexpected occasions. I agree with the service though - wrote them yesterday, no answer yet. (((
    You wrote them yesterday, on a Friday? And no response yet? Sheesh, that is terrible! God forbid somebody take a Friday afternoon off during the Holiday's... I would hate to think that someone in the cycling industry might have gone on an afternoon ride or maybe even took a couple days off after a midweek holiday. So selfish...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage View Post
    You wrote them yesterday, on a Friday? And no response yet? Sheesh, that is terrible! God forbid somebody take a Friday afternoon off during the Holiday's... I would hate to think that someone in the cycling industry might have gone on an afternoon ride or maybe even took a couple days off after a midweek holiday. So selfish...
    Geeshhh, you're so smart, I'm so selfish... Wuhm, wait, but is there any time difference? Neee, it can't be...

    I really don't enjoy quarreling with people and answer any personal assaults, but you got to my nerve. When I wrote them it was Friday's early morning here, minus 10 hours, which makes it something like 8 pm Thursday in Los Angeles, which means they had the whole Friday to respond, not talking about Saturday. I suppose they are not orthodox jews, and they are not keeping Sabbath starting from Friday. Now I'm not demanding answers right away, but from a big and respectful company like KS with multi-million dollar income I believe, I would like to get ANY response, that they got my inquiry, and they will be in touch. It's common sense. Why when I contact guys from Ibis I get a response in 24 hours no matter what day it is? I think in the age of smartphones you can't justify bad service with "they went riding". Go ride by all means, but leave the help desk working.

    I'd really appreciate you won't jump to conclusions about people's behavior and way of conduct before you know anything about them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage View Post
    I've never had a problem with them... Maybe they just don't like you...
    I pay $400 for them to like me?
    Well, with that kind of $ I can find my love elsewhere. With that kind of CS, I rather buy a crank brothers.

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    Never had a problem either..way better than any of my crankbros issues..One thing I do is wipe that ***** down after every ride..

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    By the way, an update, just to support my point - till now I got zero answer concerning the issue from KS. They suck at CS.

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    If you could choose, would you get the Integra or the regular Lev?
    I'm reading of some issues with the kevlar cord of the regular Lev, would the Integra save this issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aba Grizzly View Post
    I'm talking about inner kevlar waxed cord, that KS uses for Lev, and not the outer cable with a housing.
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    Yeah sorry, I both misunderstood your post and was reading it as a problem with the Integra version which can use a standard gear cable. My bad. Good luck with a fix.

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    I'm fed up with their lack of customer service support.
    Missing the KS cover since mid-December, I called them first thing if they could provide me one. I talked to Ron, said to email him and give him my info so he can send me a spare, and so I did, before Xmas. Spent couple of weeks of waiting. No reply. I called, talked to him again sometime mid-Jan to get an update. Said they're waiting for shipment, and told me to give him few days. More waiting, but still no update. Btw, it was very difficult to reach him via phone call. I tried calling 2wks ago, tried to dial a different extension # this time, it worked. I talked to, what's his face (forgot his name), and also talked to Ron few minutes later. They said to email them again and provide them my info so they can send me a spare the following Monday (talked to them on a Friday). I emailed Ron and cc'd to the other staff. And here I am - still no update, no response. None.

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    Wow man that's shitty..I hope my lev lasts now..It's been one season and no issues so far..Sucks about the CS..Hope they get there situation straightened out before they also are abandoned by potential clients and existing ones..

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    Interesting talk here guys... I'm considering the KS LEV myself.

    I actually work at a small machine shop. The prices companies charge these days are exorbitant. Simply put, if I had a production quantity approaching anywhere near the 50 - 100 pc mark, I COULD manufacture this product for less!

    If KS is going to charge such high prices, they need to staff a person 24/7. I absolutely understand what some have said about customer demands and response, however when companies begin charging such high prices, your paying for MUCH MORE THAN JUST THE PRODUCT!

    Given all these issues, I'm now re-thinking the KS LEV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savo View Post
    If you could choose, would you get the Integra or the regular Lev?
    I'm reading of some issues with the kevlar cord of the regular Lev, would the Integra save this issue?
    No, internal functions are essentially the same...

    I'd go with regular Lev. Easier to maintain, easier to sell if you switch frames or want something else...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bohns1 View Post
    Wow man that's shitty..I hope my lev lasts now..It's been one season and no issues so far..Sucks about the CS..Hope they get there situation straightened out before they also are abandoned by potential clients and existing ones..

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    That is true ...I said it before, the lev destroys my Joplin hands down in every aspect. SO FAR , I love the thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aba Grizzly View Post
    Guys,

    Does anybody know how can I get the KS Lev kevlar cord and some plastic pellets? The authorized dealer in our country pretty shite, and far from me, I don't want to travel 160 km just to get 10 cm of cord and 2 pellets from him... I need to replace the cord, since the original broke, and the kevlar string I'm currently using fails every 50 uses, so I have to open the whole thing and tense it again and again...
    Here are a few suggestions:

    Kevlar Kite String/Fishing Line:
    Free Shipping 100 ft of 250 lb Braided Kevlar Line Fishing Camping Kite | eBay

    Isolator Pellets (these are a little big but you can just snip them down to size with wire cutters):
    Darice Bean Bag Filler Plastic Pellets, 16 oz: Crafts : Walmart.com

    *Or if you prefer actual factory parts:

    Actual Kevlar LEV Cable:
    Kind Shock Lev Kevlar Link Cable

    New Barrel w/ Isolator Pellet (grub screw not included): Kind Shock Lev Barrel Cable Clamp Each

    Grub Screw:
    Kind Shock Lev Coupler Set Screw Each

    Coupler Housing Cover:
    Kind Shock Lev Coupler Housing Cap Each

    Coupler:
    Kind Shock Lev Coupler Each

    Also, you can reuse your barrel and grub screw rather than purchasing new ones. The tricky part is getting the old isolator pellet out - I simply remove the grub screw, hold the barrel with a pair of pliers, and use a lighter to heat up the barrel until the pellet melts out.

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    Guys just got my integra post back from KS they completely redesigned the activation mechanism at the bottom of the post so now it is activated by the cable and the housing does not move.. I suggest getting this upgrade done while your post is under warranty as it is free..

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    Re: KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?

    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    Guys just got my integra post back from KS they completely redesigned the activation mechanism at the bottom of the post so now it is activated by the cable and the housing does not move.. I suggest getting this upgrade done while your post is under warranty as it is free..
    Pics please ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    Guys just got my integra post back from KS they completely redesigned the activation mechanism at the bottom of the post so now it is activated by the cable and the housing does not move.. I suggest getting this upgrade done while your post is under warranty as it is free..
    So, does it look like this one in the bottom right, shown at the Taipei bike show?


    When I called, they said you also needed a different lever (which is part of the service) since the cable goes in the opposite direction with cast end at the lever. Did you get this new lever too, or is it still the ODI lock-on style?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatfreeheeler View Post
    So, does it look like this one in the bottom right, shown at the Taipei bike show?


    When I called, they said you also needed a different lever (which is part of the service) since the cable goes in the opposite direction with cast end at the lever. Did you get this new lever too, or is it still the ODI lock-on style?
    That is exactly what the bottom looks like and they give you a new noodle cable and housing and the trigger. I had bought the carbon trigger so it is odi lock on ready. You have to swap the trigger and the cut end actually connects to the bottom of

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    I wonder if all new Integra's are shipping with this update...?
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    Not sure on the date of the change, but mine which came from QBP last week still had the old mech. Of course I heard a rumor they got a fresh shipment this week. Could mean nothing though.

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    Aight, I've searched and searched... But I can't find dimensions for the Lev Integra. Anyone seen a chart? I need all the necessary ones to determine if it'll fit my frame. Rails to top of collar, collar depth, insertion depths, etc...

    For both the 385 and 435 Integra.

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    Not a year into ownership my KS LEV 100/27.2 died
    It originally came under-pressured, and after reading on these forums about a bad batch, I sent it in for a fix. Came back and worked fine for a while until last week. I have not been riding for a month due to work, and when I took the bike for a spin, all the pressure from the seatpost was gone.

    So I rode by pulling up on the seat when I needed extra height. Sent in an RMA request, got my automatic answer, and now when I was disassembling the post, I saw that it got frozen. You can't pull on the cable anymore - it's wedged shut. Probably on the verge of snapping the nylon.

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    Did u try a bit of wd40 on the wedge to loosen it up? It may help..Maybe you need a cable adjustment as well..

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    Way back on page 10, someone posted that a standard shift cable will not fit in the KS carbon lever:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/all-mountain/...ml#post9882948

    I don't know if KS changed the lever since then, but a standard shift cable fits my carbon lever(KS Lev 150mm, purchased Spring 2014):

    Broken cable:
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    Quote Originally Posted by happyriding View Post
    Way back on page 10, someone posted that a standard shift cable will not fit in the KS carbon lever:

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    Yeah, that was always thought of as incorrect. Not sure what cable he was using. Probably a brake cable or something...
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    So i got my Lev the other day, and I'm kinda bummed that I didn't get the braided line. Instead, I got a plastic type line that won't straighten, so I have all these kinks and bends in the housing. It looks really tacky.
    So is that the standard housing now? I

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    I think so. Mine came with a standard black housing as well. Got it yesterday.

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    That sucks.
    How did you straighten the housing?

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    So, the company i ordered from sent me a 31.6 and my frame is 30.9 That being said i never installed it and a new one is said to arrive tonight. I inspected everything from the other box and saw the housing was plain black. If the 30.9 that comes in tonight has it as well, i can for sure say that this is the new cable housing. I will let you know how it comes out tonight after install. Im possibly thinking about taking a blow dryer to it while lightly pulling the housing. Hopefully that should straighten it out a little bit.

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    "Sometimes when it's in the package it takes a set.
    You can either leave it in the sun to straighten out or use a heat gun / blow dryer to release the set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bongski View Post
    So i got my Lev the other day, and I'm kinda bummed that I didn't get the braided line. Instead, I got a plastic type line that won't straighten, so I have all these kinks and bends in the housing. It looks really tacky.
    So is that the standard housing now? I
    The "braided" line would've looked the same...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage View Post
    The "braided" line would've looked the same...
    meh.
    I finished installing the lev. .
    I was just shocked as to how malleable that line was. I've had the reverb and joplin before so this was different for me.

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    my experience with the KS LEV 125mm so far:

    purchased one year ago, I ride quite a bit. Was working perfectly until the last couple months. The issue was the post would not fully extend to 125mm, it would stop around 115mm then I could help it up the rest of the way while holding the activator button, but when I would weight it the seat would sag back down to about 115mm, so there was about 10mm of up and down slop in the post...cables, seat clamp etc. were all checked and in proper working order so no issues there, was definitely something internal.

    I figured that maybe it just needed to be serviced so I followed this procedure here:
    http://forums.mtbr.com/all-mountain/...ld-899659.html
    ^this took care of the problem for maybe 5 rides, and then the sag issue came back.

    So I sent the post in to KS for service/warranty. Overall I thought that they provided great customer service with fast turnaround times. It was about a week from sending in my post till the time I got it back. They ended up replacing the internal cartridge.

    Post is working perfect now. For how expensive these posts are I'm expecting there not to be anymore issues for a long time/ever. Will be pretty bummed if there is anymore problems with this post aside from basic service/maintenance.

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    I serviced mine myself and I rode only once so far, no problems..i only have 1mm sag which is the best result I can get with my current skill level... much better than 1-2 cm .. i will report again when more miles are logged.

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    Has anyone had any luck finding replacement parts for the short internal cable? the one that is some different material? I hear bti has them but none of my LBS can order what I need.
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    Arts Cyclery should have some: Kind Shock Lev Kevlar Link Cable

    If not, you can use the kevlar kite string that I use. It's nice to have bulk supply.

    Free Shipping 100ft 250lb Braided Kevlar Line for Fishing Camping Kite Flying | eBay

    Arts also has replacement end barrels including the isolator pellet. The grub screw is sold separately. You could also use your old end barrels and grub screw but you'll need to use a lighter to melt out the old isolator pellet and use a snipped down one of these as your new isolator pellet: Walmart Mobile

    I posted all of these links in my thread located here so they're all in one place:

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    KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?

    When replacing the Kevlar cable, is it compulsory to replace the pellets too?

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    Yup. The pellets need to be replaced. You'll need to melt the old pellets out of the barrels if you intend to reuse them. Hold the barrel with a pair of needle nose pliers and use a lighter to heat it up until it melts out (with the grub screw removed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cakelly4 View Post
    Yup. The pellets need to be replaced. You'll need to melt the old pellets out of the barrels if you intend to reuse them. Hold the barrel with a pair of needle nose pliers and use a lighter to heat it up until it melts out (with the grub screw removed).

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    For those that have or had creaking noise from the saddle clamp, I can confirm that the proper bolt torque is required to eliminate the creak.

    I thought, when I used a long hex wrench by hand, that I was really torqueing it down. Still I had the creaking noise. None of my Thompson posts require anywhere near this torque, basically never really thought about it.

    The torque spec in the literature is 8Nm, and the post says 10Nm max, so I set the torque wrench at 9 Nm and cranked down each bolt. If I didn't know better I would have thought I was going to break something. Voilà, no more creak, at least for now.
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    ks thumb lever not fully returning

    hello,
    I recently purchased a lev DX dropper.
    the thumb lever does not seem to fully return to position, in order to lock the post, and the seat is slowly moving upwards.
    The cable tensioner is ok. If i have more tension, it does not lock the post, if I reduce it, the post moves with difficulty.

    I am thinking to replace the spring in the actuator, with a harder one.
    Anybody has already tried that?
    Do you see any risks, apart from the cable to require retension earlier?


    moreover, the actuator for DX is supposed to have 6 positions (2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 o clock). I currently have it on 4. How can I have it in 8 o clock, without the need to dismantle it?

    Thanks for all the answers,

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    Hey mns,

    I don't think you should have to replace the spring. There are a few things that I would recommend checking first.

    First, a few questions:

    1. Do you have the remote set up as an inner lock ring on a pair of ODI grips or just simply mounted directly to the bar?
    2. Is the cable housing all brand new or did you get the post used?

    Some things to try:

    1. If you have the lever mounted to a pair of ODI grips, sometimes the lever activation can get a little sticky if you over-tighten the bolt to attach it to the grips. I've seen this more with the Supernatural, but could be happening with the DX as well since they use a slightly cheaper lever.
    2. If you have old cable housing (or even if it's new really) - disconnect the claw at the junction end and make sure the cable slides through it with ease. If it gets caught up, replace the housing (and possibly cable). You may want to be sure you have extra derailleure cable laying around before you try this as the end gets pretty frayed and may need to be replaced after you test it.
    3. With the claw disconnected at the junction box, look closely at the claw and make sure there are no bits of cable protruding into the groove where the barrel rests when connected. Those bits of cable can actually cause drag on that barrel which in turn partially rotates that barrel which in turn keeps the post partially activated.

    To answer your last question, the DX does have several other positions, however you do have to dismantle the post to adjust it, unlike the standard LEV.

    The video to demonstrate this is located here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vftoj9qU8II

    Let me know if it's still sticking after you try these. Good luck.

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    Hey Chris. Thanks for the tips.
    I have it directly on the bars - no ODI. I don't think it's too tight, I will check.
    It is brand new. I even greased the cable before installation to make sure it slides smoother .
    No bits of cable are protruding in the groove.
    It seems that the spring does not have the strength to push the cable/groove/barrel to the top...
    If I use the cable tensioner, the veer returns to position, but it does not lock the post. That's why I am thinking of using other spring...

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    Yeah, if you have it directly mounted to the bar, it's probably fine. The ones I've seen have issue when too tight were mounted to the grip.

    Are you sure you left 22 mm of cable protruding when you cut it?

    Have you taken the post apart at all?

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    I'm on my third LEV. The first two worked absolutely perfectly (both bikes stolen). The one I have now works just well enough to keep me from shooting it. It's been back to factory on a 3-week turnaround that didnt seem to do anything. Sometimes it'll work fine for 2/3rds of a ride, then start sticking in any position. It almost always sticks at full extension after a long climb. I have to bounce around on the saddle while working the lever. Or sometimes if I tap the cable adjuster it responds. Shop has given up trying to fix it. I'm living with it till I can't any longer and then KS has lost me for life... A shame because I love the ODI compatibility and ergonomics of the lever.
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    Re: KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?

    Quote Originally Posted by BikeIntelligencer View Post
    I'm on my third LEV. The first two worked absolutely perfectly (both bikes stolen). The one I have now works just well enough to keep me from shooting it. It's been back to factory on a 3-week turnaround that didnt seem to do anything. Sometimes it'll work fine for 2/3rds of a ride, then start sticking in any position. It almost always sticks at full extension after a long climb. I have to bounce around on the saddle while working the lever. Or sometimes if I tap the cable adjuster it responds. Shop has given up trying to fix it. I'm living with it till I can't any longer and then KS has lost me for life... A shame because I love the ODI compatibility and ergonomics of the lever.
    That blows man.. It seems to be hit or miss with these.. I'm going on my 3rd season on the lev without issue so I count myself lucky.. I can't wait until there is the be all end all of an adjustable post.. Still have not seen it happen..

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    Wondering if it's because you got an early one. I bought my first at its intro at Sea Otter 2012 and that thing worked like a charm. Now I wonder about their QC...
    Quote Originally Posted by bohns1 View Post
    That blows man.. It seems to be hit or miss with these.. I'm going on my 3rd season on the lev without issue so I count myself lucky.. I can't wait until there is the be all end all of an adjustable post.. Still have not seen it happen..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeIntelligencer View Post
    I'm on my third LEV. The first two worked absolutely perfectly (both bikes stolen). The one I have now works just well enough to keep me from shooting it. It's been back to factory on a 3-week turnaround that didnt seem to do anything. Sometimes it'll work fine for 2/3rds of a ride, then start sticking in any position. It almost always sticks at full extension after a long climb. I have to bounce around on the saddle while working the lever. Or sometimes if I tap the cable adjuster it responds. Shop has given up trying to fix it. I'm living with it till I can't any longer and then KS has lost me for life... A shame because I love the ODI compatibility and ergonomics of the lever.

    That sounds like your internal cable is stretched/slipped/damaged. Once that thing is just slightly off, the post will act very inconsistently. It's an easy fix with a video tutorial on the KS site. I've also included some links in my LEV thread for where you can obtain some bulk Kevlar internal cable and isolator pellets. There are also some comments in there (somewhere in the thread) on the best ways to get the length just right. The thread is mainly about the sag issue but a lot of other good stuff in there.

    Thread is located here:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/all-mountain/...ld-899659.html

    Good luck

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    Thanks Chris, very much appreciate your expertise and pointers but have tried them all in futility. If the factory can't make it right and the shop says no mas then my meager adeptness isn't going to be worth my time and teeth gnashing. Interestingly on my other bike I just had my Reverb fail. I figured OK time for a bleed or rebuild or whatever, it's been 2 solid rowdy years, etc etc. Rockshox told my LBS to just replace it at no charge! And get this: 3 day turnaround, no exaggeration. Kind of a tale of two cities here...

    Quote Originally Posted by cakelly4 View Post
    That sounds like your internal cable is stretched/slipped/damaged. Once that thing is just slightly off, the post will act very inconsistently. It's an easy fix with a video tutorial on the KS site. I've also included some links in my LEV thread for where you can obtain some bulk Kevlar internal cable and isolator pellets. There are also some comments in there (somewhere in the thread) on the best ways to get the length just right. The thread is mainly about the sag issue but a lot of other good stuff in there.

    Thread is located here:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/all-mountain/...ld-899659.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by mns View Post
    hello,
    I recently purchased a lev DX dropper.
    the thumb lever does not seem to fully return to position, in order to lock the post, and the seat is slowly moving upwards.
    The cable tensioner is ok. If i have more tension, it does not lock the post, if I reduce it, the post moves with difficulty.

    I am thinking to replace the spring in the actuator, with a harder one.
    Anybody has already tried that?
    Do you see any risks, apart from the cable to require retension earlier?


    moreover, the actuator for DX is supposed to have 6 positions (2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 o clock). I currently have it on 4. How can I have it in 8 o clock, without the need to dismantle it?

    Thanks for all the answers,
    On my DX, the cap covering the cable attachment/mechanism on the post is buggered up (came that way), so it wont fully seat and stay in, so I use a zip tie to hold it in place. BUT, if the zip tie is too tight, the cap fouls the mechanism causing the cable to not fully return, so the seat wont stay down and the thumb lever has play...

    I'd also check your cap to make sure it's seated properly and not fouling the mechanism.
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    The key to keeping the cover working properly is to make sure the barbed ferrule is pulled down while pressing the lid on, then released so that the barb slides up into a small divot in the lid. The barb holds the lid in place and can be damaged easily if the lid is pressed on while the ferrule sits in its home. Someone likely damaged that before you purchased it. Good news is that you can buy a replacement ferrule (or a new lid if that got damaged) here:

    Kind Shock Lev Cable Housing Ferrule Each

    If it's the o-ring that's damaged, it can be replaced with a 1 mm x 18 mm o-ring.

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    I got my LEV from ebay in June (2014), it started sagging in November (I think)

    Had NO issues, then went out on a cooler ride (40deg F) which started fine, then
    about 1/3 of the way in, it started sagging about 2"

    I did the RMA process online, got the email, printed it all out and shipped it to them a couple weeks later. Within 1.5-2 weeks, I had it back. Has worked fine since and I went on a cold ride (about 25 deg F) with no issues.

    I was worried that since I got it from ebay (it was brand new though) they might not warranty it, but they did and I didn't have to contact anyone.
    Overall, I still like the post and plan on keeping it.

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    Just thought I would update this thread that if you are looking for spare KS parts and your LBS is having trouble getting them (was my situation) Arts cyclery has a decent selection ready to ship

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    Kind Shock KS LEV creaking SOLVED!

    As some others users mentioned, lower seat clamp worn points indicated that it was maybe bent over time or manufactured poorly so I decided to solve it by applying glass fibre tape (as it is abrasive resistant) on lower clamp with overlap in the middle of lower clamp to compensate the gap created.
    AND IT WORKED!! No more creaking, noises, clicking...just pure silence No matter how strong was the impact on saddle.

    Indicative worn points on lower clamp:


    glass fibre tape used:


    glass fibre tape applied with overlap in the middle:
    Last edited by Bro_cro_xc; 05-26-2015 at 05:11 AM.

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    Going to try that. ,I've creaks when I move back and forth on my seat

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