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    MBA reviews it and KS posts the review here:
    http://kssuspension.com/wp-content/u...-of-KS-LEV.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark N View Post
    Yes I suffered this a few days ago. Thought it was me not installing correctly and just re tightened them up. I will keep an eye on them now though and loctite if if continues.
    I'm little late here, but I had this happen on my first ride after installing my LEV. My foot came off after landing a small jump and my arse landed on the saddle.

    It wasn't that the bolts backed off, but the part in the red circle got bent upwards and the bolts lost tension. I tightened the bolts, and I haven't had a problem since (knock on wood).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    My foot came off after landing a small jump and my arse landed on the saddle.

    The part in the red circle got bent upwards and the bolts lost tension.
    Your avatar is a photo of you doing a drop to flat. I'm guessing you break stuff sometimes
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    Got mine today, a 30.9x125mm.

    The shock weighs 482g. I haven't weighed the hardware yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt View Post
    Your avatar is a photo of you doing a drop to flat. I'm guessing you break stuff sometimes
    That's part of the game

    I made a spacer to reduce volume in the air can on my RP23. I wanted to test to see if I'd still use up all travel, and my 48-foot flatbed trailer parked in our backyard caught my eyes

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    Rode my Lev 150MM last night for the first time and loved it.

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    So far so good on mine, wishing I had a wooden keyboard. Nearly 2 months use and all is well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFI View Post
    Rode my Lev 150MM last night for the first time and loved it.
    Where did you get it? If from your LBS, do you know what distributor they used?
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    I put my 125mm on this evening. It is the perfect length for my 5'11" on a Tallboy LTc frame. At full extension the collar is only a few mm above the clamp.

    The cabling is very tidy as well. I like that it clamps to the post at the bottom.

    Mine is a little sticky right now so I hope that goes as this beds in.

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    KS LEV 125mm. Am I the first to have?-imageuploadedbytapatalk1348207498.290560.jpg

    I put the adjuster just in front of the first cable clip.
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    One issue I do have is the trigger. I have to leave the clamp bolt fair loose. If I clamp it tight then the pivot on the carbon trigger binds and becomes stiff. Perhaps this is my grips. I have Lizard Skin Peaty grips and not ODI lock ons. I not sure if they are compatible but I gave it a try. If the bolt comes loose then I may go back to a separate trigger and locking thingy.

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    I've been looking to get a dropper for a couple of months now & thought I'd reached
    a decision on which one was gonna be the best for my bike.Unfortunately/fortunately I have a commie meta 5 which has a 27.2 tube So the choices aren't that great.The LEV has no cable flapping about but the i7R with the external reservoir would seem to be more solid & ultimately more reliable than the LEV in 27.2.Also us poor lads over here in Europe won't see a LEV in the size required until the beginning of 2013.

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    I just received my 31.6 100MM LEV and had it's first ride yesterday. It is amazing. Works flawlessly, I am extremely happy with my purchase. I purchased from Bike Bling.com. I ordered in May 2012 and was on the waiting list. Well worth the wait.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    I got a 6 year old IronHorse with a 30mm seatpost. Am I out of luck getting one of these to fit?

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    First dropper I've used so I can't compare to others, but it works pretty well from where I sit. No movement while pedaling, simple flick of switch and drops or pops back up. No complaints there. As far as using a dropper post for the first time... wow! Its like the iPhone 5, how did I ever manage to survive before this came along? One interesting thing for me: I never realized how much I was actually sitting on descents. Now with no seat my legs were definitely telling me they're working. But I now feel like my weight is more properly on the pedals and might be starting to understand what all these people are talking about when it comes to corners. Anyway, happy camper here!
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    I took my dropper out for its maiden ride through the rock gardens of Hall Ranch here in Colorado. It's a good test. Long climbs with various sections of smooth single track and extremely technical rock gardens. Similarly fast descents on flowy single track and steep descents in the rock gardens.

    The ability to tweak the saddle height for climbing and descending and dropping it on the fly is a revelation. I hit one of the rack gardens way too fast on one steep section. The bike bucked when it hit a wall of a rock but plowed on through. I think if I had not dropped my saddle I could have had a very painful dismount.

    I noticed a couple of issues though.

    1) I'm having difficulty getting the precise height I want for the post. Previously I would adjust my regular post a few mm at a time. I found a few mm made all the difference. Now I'm having issue hitting the right height for my "trail" position. For me this is 10-15mm below max height. I find I often drop below this then I have to adjust the saddle back up. The trick I worked out towards the end on the ride is to drop the saddle, get my butt where I want it and the raise the saddle back up. Any other tricks for getting you precise height?

    2) I had the saddle come loose on me during the ride. I feel that with the rounded nuts they have the chance to work loose. Is locktite the solution? How do I prevent this?

    Thx.
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    Great post but the clamping mechanism sucks donkey balls!!! Few rides in and the round nut comes loose and the bolt falls out..of course I don't notice cause my weight is towards the back of the seat( so was holding the seat in place from me sitting on it)..start to go down a hill,stand up on the pedals and the seat falls forward...wtf.. I look down and no rear nut or bolt(this is going to be a fun ride home)..of course god only knows where on the trail the nut and bolt fell out.. I go a ways back and look for the nut and bolt but of course didnt find them.. So had to work my way home sitting the entire time so the seat didnt fall forward and or loose the other nut and bolt...

    So KS--- you suck for that F#$ked design with the round nut and bolt setup....

    Instead of bothering to contacting ks for another screwy round nut and bolt... I went to Home Depot and McGivered a replacement.. I used a 1/4" x 20 x 1.5" flat head Philips bolt(the head angle fits perfectly in the beveled area where the bolt head from ks went).. Had it facing up so the nut would go under the seat.. I used 2 washers and a nylon lock nut... This worked perfect.. Of course you have to tighten it with a wrench-- but that was ok.. Took a small wrench with me for the first ride-- dialed it in and that was that.. No more worries of that stupid round nut and bolt setup that ks came up with coming lose and falling off.. KS should be ashamed of themselves.. Instead of coming up with a system that has a redundant locking system to it(bolt with a locking nylong insert etc)-- they went for the blingy setup that looks good but sucks...

    Other then that-- i love the post lol..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coned Out View Post
    I got a 6 year old IronHorse with a 30mm seatpost. Am I out of luck getting one of these to fit?
    Your seat tube can be enlarged to 30.9 with a flex hone. Some bike shops can do this or buy one and do it yourself. You hone it a little at a time and test fit a 30.9 post.
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    Since re tightening the seat bolts mine has been fine, touch wood. I think I was a bit to gentle with the first tightening. If you are worried then bang some blue Loctite on to the thread to be sure but you then may struggle later to get it undone so do not use too much.

    It does take a bit of time to get used to the height adjustment. Based on my experience you do get it right with practice.

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    I used blue Loctite on it. As I cranked the bolts down to 10Nm it did dawn on me that it may be somewhat difficult to undo later on.

    I've got use to the height adjustment now. Part of my issue was that the high position I determined my saddle was not high enough for sustained climbing. Once that was fixed hitting my trail position is a lot easier now.

    I did a long 7 mile 3000ft downhill on Sunday. Being able to tweak my saddle height on the fly depending on grade and rockiness at the time really enabled me to hammer the descent without stopping.

    To KS the shock is good but the bolt attachment is poor. Why the heck did they use round nuts?

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    Bikebling says they have 150mm LEVs in stock. We'll see if it ships or not.
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    Well I ordered mine on early August and still haven't received it so...

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    Locks in up position at random

    I have the LEV 125mm on an Ibis SLR. Has worked well until now. Had bolt issues early on -additional tightening required. Also, loud creaking on big hits (scary) but more lube around the rail contact areas fixed that.

    Now post will randomly stick in up position. I repeatedly work the release button & push down on seat. Seems that rocking the barrel adjuster MIGHT help, but can't be sure. Post will suddenly start working again. Not sure why. I do keep post clean. Anyone else with this?

    Emailed KS - no reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairfaxian View Post
    I have the LEV 125mm on an Ibis SLR. Has worked well until now. Had bolt issues early on -additional tightening required. Also, loud creaking on big hits (scary) but more lube around the rail contact areas fixed that.

    Now post will randomly stick in up position. I repeatedly work the release button & push down on seat. Seems that rocking the barrel adjuster MIGHT help, but can't be sure. Post will suddenly start working again. Not sure why. I do keep post clean. Anyone else with this?

    Emailed KS - no reply.
    I would call KS, there # is on the site.
    When I called them they were great to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairfaxian View Post
    I have the LEV 125mm on an Ibis SLR. Has worked well until now. Had bolt issues early on -additional tightening required. Also, loud creaking on big hits (scary) but more lube around the rail contact areas fixed that.

    Now post will randomly stick in up position. I repeatedly work the release button & push down on seat. Seems that rocking the barrel adjuster MIGHT help, but can't be sure. Post will suddenly start working again. Not sure why. I do keep post clean. Anyone else with this?

    Emailed KS - no reply.
    Cable issue? Like it doesn't have enough tension or isn't pulling enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairfaxian View Post
    I have the LEV 125mm on an Ibis SLR. Has worked well until now. Had bolt issues early on -additional tightening required. Also, loud creaking on big hits (scary) but more lube around the rail contact areas fixed that.

    Now post will randomly stick in up position. I repeatedly work the release button & push down on seat. Seems that rocking the barrel adjuster MIGHT help, but can't be sure. Post will suddenly start working again. Not sure why. I do keep post clean. Anyone else with this?

    Emailed KS - no reply.
    Post internal nylon string is lose, try taking out the bottom cap of the post and retighten the nylon tread. Do not over torque the bolt, or else the string will break.

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    Thanks for the replies -will try those remedies. I did get a message back from KS. Said it might have to be sent back.
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    So I really want one but do I need one? Its flat here, mostly short steep hills and loose rocks. I'm in central west texas if that helps

    Also my seattube is 27.2 so if not this then its a GD or a "normal" post

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    Even on flat, smooth corners I can go faster with the seat down. It's easier to keep both tires right at the limit of grip when you have a lower center of gravity and can more easily shift your weight forward and back. In your area a dropper post doesn't sound like a necessity and most people would probably say it's not worth the weight. After riding one for years though I wouldn't want to be without even on your trails. Maybe get a 3" drop model to keep the weight low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairfaxian View Post
    I have the LEV 125mm on an Ibis SLR. Has worked well until now. Had bolt issues early on -additional tightening required. Also, loud creaking on big hits (scary) but more lube around the rail contact areas fixed that.

    Now post will randomly stick in up position. I repeatedly work the release button & push down on seat. Seems that rocking the barrel adjuster MIGHT help, but can't be sure. Post will suddenly start working again. Not sure why. I do keep post clean. Anyone else with this?

    Emailed KS - no reply.
    Mine stuck as well, right out of the box. If it has weight on it, it won't go down. Unweight it and I can push down by hand. I guess I'm going to have to send it back. Back to the Joplin for now.

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    Bikebling says the next round of LEVs will hit the US in 2-3 weeks, including the 150mm.
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    Couldn't resist. After trying and testing different ones...got one yesterday. Out for a ride. Not disappointed.

    Not sure if it can be called a mod.. but the installation instructions didn't make sense. The end of housing in contact with the small bits/ spring going to that little actuation box is shown without an end cap. I figured installing it that way would end up with a crappy end in no time and definitely not grit/grime proof. So I capped it. In between the 2 plastic surfaces (the other being the base of that hooked looking plastic piece) with a thin metal spacers.. Reason being if that hooked piece wears out.. I might have a hard time finding replacement for it later on.



    Never liked the lock ring remote. Simply bad ergonomics needing to remove finger from brakes to activate it. Hybridize my LEV with a remote from an old Joplin instead.


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    ^ That's a nice little piggy on the wall!

    I love my LEV! My only fear is that I am going to wear it out. I knew I wanted it for certain riding situations, but I end up using it much more often than I ever imagined. I can't imagine riding without it.

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    KS Remedy

    I started using less force to drop the post which seems to work. Thanks for the insight Creeper. Somehow I think the post jams when fully weighted. A lighter touch seems to do the trick.

    Also, I located the release controller between the grip and the brake/shifter. With this I can maintain a more secure grip at all times. On the old bike, I had the control between the brake & shifter, which worked well also.

    Quote Originally Posted by Creeper View Post
    Mine stuck as well, right out of the box. If it has weight on it, it won't go down. Unweight it and I can push down by hand. I guess I'm going to have to send it back. Back to the Joplin for now.
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    That “hooked looking plastic piece” is the “end cap”. If the cable housing is inside of it there is no way to get any dirt or dust into the cable housing or inside “that little actuation box“, which is o-ring sealed. It also holds the cable housing securely without benefit of the additional zip tie and washer upgrade.

    Nice job on the Joplin remote. I mounted the KS remote right above my shifter and I use my thumb very comfortably to operate it. It’s feels like another paddle above the 2 shifter paddles.

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    Question for you all.

    I'm on my second LEV now. Sent the first one back because it had torsional play straight out of the box.

    So, new post, same problem. Not as much, but it's still there.

    How much, if any, play have you all got in your LEVs?

    Such a wad of cash, it's just a bit disappointing that it's like this already.

    Cheers, Grant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldog View Post
    I'm on my second LEV now. Sent the first one back because it had torsional play straight out of the box.
    What do you mean by torsional play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerryn View Post
    What do you mean by torsional play?
    Twisting at the seat.

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    Well I can wiggle the front of my seat by perhaps a millimeter. There is some play there but it is not anything I can notice while riding.

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    Full extension question

    Just installed my 125 today.

    Noticed the issue with the KS red cover starting to work it's way out. So I checked in here for tips and realized I have the claw facing in as opposed to out so I'll give that a try. +1

    I'm also noticing that mine is not fully extending with a little "thunk" sound when I raise it to full extension. I heard it the first couple of times on my initial test rides but not after I adjusted the cable length (seat didn't always go down, there didn't seem to be enough tension) The seat works more consistantly now however it seems to be just short of full extension. I can pull it the rest of the way with my hand so there appears to be enough cable (and I hear the "thunk").

    Anyone experience this situation; any ideas?
    Thanks in advance

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    I would suggest that you pop the seat off and check the air pressure. It may be down a bit hence you are not getting the full lift. This is adjustable depending on how quick you want the seat to come up. Based on the manual it should be set to between 150 and 250 psi. If you are loosing pressure here then send it back under warranty I reckon. Another thought is have you over tightened you seat post clamp. That may be crushing the workings and causing the issue.

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    Definitely pay close attention to the seat post clamp.

    I had some issues with the post sticking down, but was able to remedy it with adjusting the torque on my clamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldog View Post
    Definitely pay close attention to the seat post clamp.

    I had some issues with the post sticking down, but was able to remedy it with adjusting the torque on my clamp.
    +1

    Not over tightening the seatpost clamps are key! The outer sleeves on these seatposts are relatively thin and can cause pinching on the piston inside. At least, that's the case on the i/supernatural series... It will feel clunky or sticky and eventually, usually very quickly led to a failure internally.
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    Thanks guys.

    If the seat post clamp is over-torqued wouldn't that impact the movement of the post in general. Mine moves fine up and down, until that last few mm at the top.

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    Also, PSI of. 150- 250 is quite a big range. Is there an optimal setting. I weigh around 180ish ready to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankarms View Post
    Thanks guys.

    If the seat post clamp is over-torqued wouldn't that impact the movement of the post in general. Mine moves fine up and down, until that last few mm at the top.
    Yes, but mostly at that point in which the post is clamped. So if the post is inserted all the way into the frame, you'll notice it towards the top of the stroke. If it has 3-4 inches of post exposed, then the notchy'ness should be around the middle towards bottom of stroke... etc... If it's inserted at the minimum insertion line, you wouldn't notice any difference.
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    Much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankarms View Post
    Also, PSI of. 150- 250 is quite a big range. Is there an optimal setting. I weigh around 180ish ready to ride.
    Based on what I have seen the PSI has nothing to do with rider weight. This is the adjustment for the rate of speed that the seat post comes up when fully released. Higher pressure means a quicker rate of rise. I did not check and or adjust mine out of the box so not sure what it is set at I just know it is quick enough. I would see what it is set for now and then make a judgement call. I would expect the factory setting to be 200 PSI as middle of the road.

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    Smile Mixed review and poor customer service from Art's Cyclery

    See UPDATE at the end.
    I got the 150mm version and rode it for the first time sat. It was easy to install even for a relative novice (watch youtube install video) and it work well during my ride (22.5 mile, 2100 climb). It felt very solid and I was surprised by how often I made adjustments on varying terrain. I was so impressed that I decided to order one for my wife's bike (she had trouble on some of the decents). I order the 125mm from Art's Cyclery and when that arrive yesterday, the box had clearly been previously opened. That was irritating, but I decided to go ahead and install the post. As soon as I popped off the cap covering the cable connector that actuates the post and tried to send the post to the upper position, the connector detached from the cable that goes inside the unit and actuates the post motion. To say the least I was disappointed that this defective post was shipped to me. I immediately called Art's to have a replacement shipped asap so I could get my wife's bike ready for this weekend's ride. The response from Art's was shocking... they said that it is a common problem and that Kind Shock required that the post be shipped back to the factory for repair because it cost's too much to send out a replacement when the issue is repairable. The fact is that Art's clearly sent me a defective product (the opened box makes me suspect it was a returned item they were trying to unload) and they refused to stand behind a product they sold. When I contacted Kind Shock they were surprised that Art's would not take the product back and issue a new one. Art's clearly needs to establish some customer service standards and educate their staff on those standards. Shipping a previously opened item and that was supposed to be a new item is unacceptabe. Now I am forced to spend time and money on shipping the item in for a warranty repair... extremely poor customer service and a total lack of respect for their customer! I won't order any items directly from bike shops in the future... my local shop or Amazon as both know how to treat customers!

    The issue with the post itself should be easy enough for Kind Shock to fix... I would wait awhile to make sure any design/QA problems are resolved before buying. After 3 rides with the LEV 150mm I am still extremely pleased with that... I will update with reliability in a few months.

    UPDATE: After getting feedback regarding my experience, one of the owners of Art's called me and apologized for the misunderstanding. He did sound sincere and explained that the open box was probably because the post was a display model. He understood that this was really not a warranty issue, but an issue of the product not working from the start. He offered to overnight me a new post and I just received the UPS email notice the post is on the way Hat's off to Art's for the service recovery!
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    It's true that KS has had a problem with the set screw cutting the cable inside the post. Mine broke after about 2 months of "hard" use and the shop I purchased it from sent it back to KS. KS was very fast on the return, they had my post back to me within one week.
    I can't believe that Art's won't take care of you. I believe they may have sold you a used post that someone returned. I might be wrong but I don't think that cable will break on the first use, like I said mine lasted for a while before it broke.
    At least KS will stand behind there product and take care of you.

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    "Mid-October" has come and passed and still no word from KS on what the delays with the 150mm are or when the next shipment will arrive.
    Keep the Country country.

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    Love this forum.

    Thanks Mark & Matt and other on the forum. Two issues posted, two issues resolved. Just like that
    Awesome

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