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    KS eten?

    Has anyone taken the plunge on the new cheap KS eten dropper?

    Its for sale online as low as $126 with the remote. Pinkbike did a write up, but there's basically no info on the interwebs with actual rider experience. It seems the biggest downside is the potential weight, but since this is the AM forum and we ride big boy bikes, that's not so much of an issue for me.

    Sure, I could buy a reverb, lev, etc., but the eten is less than half the price. I could theoretically buy two and have one in use while the other is off getting warranty repairs at KS!

    I'm really looking for eten feedback/experience and not what you have or what I should buy instead.

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    It has essentially the same internals as their other products - the biggest drawback is it appears to only be available in 100mm - I prefer a 150mm that my LEV provides. Its clamping mechanism for the saddle is similar to the i950, not like the new LEV head.

    The remote is not the nice "carbon" unit that the LEV has, but it is still the same shape/has the same functionality. I do not believe the remote is ODI compatible either (The LEV remote replaced one of the ODI clamps on ODI grips)

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    I had/have a Reverb 125mm drop but then bent the post and snapped the actuator off. So instead of rebuilding the reverb and buying another actuator I bought the eten.

    I've got to say I'm happy with it, I have noticed the travel reduction going from 125mm to 100mm particularly on dh tracks, not quite as low as I'd like, but good enough. Also being 25mm shorter there is less slack cable hanging around the bike, always good. Out of the box it has a similar amount of side to side movement as the reverb, not noticeable riding.

    The action of the unit is smooth and quick, which I wasn't expecting from a cable operated unit and it's easy to setup. The actuator is a bit povo looking but the good thing is, being cable operated I can always improvise something if it breaks as apposed to the hydraulic reverb.

    The weight difference, meh... don't care didn't weigh either one, it's an all-mountain bike after all not a xc race bike. It also has a single bolt seat clamp that doesn't squeak like the two bolt reverb did. I have had no issues with the post losing pressure or jamming but I've only had this seatpost for a month or less so can't comment on longevity.

    Overall I think it's a great looking unit with excellent functionality and very cheap. I would buy another one over any dropper on the market due to the price and my tendency to break things, hope this helps.
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    Thanks Bamr, exactly what I was looking for.

    Anyone one else with long(er) term experience?

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    I have both the Reverb and eTen. So far i've only used it for 2 trail rides and noticed the seat does not always come all the way to the top when the trail gets rough. This might have something to do with the open bath cartridge. The manual says that inverting the seatpost may cause air and oil to mix and may result in temporary suspension action. It also says to cycle the seatpost a few times and wait a few minutes for the air and oil to return to their normal operating positions. I have not had enough rides to see if the post just needed to be broken in or if it's a fact of life.

    Overall for the price I paid, I am so far quite happy. I could purchase 3 of the eTens for the price of a Reverb so i'm not too worried about reliability. After all, i'm cover by the warranty.

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    BTW, one annoying thing is that the remote cabling attaches to the front of the post instead of the rear. The cable bunches up on the top tube when the seat is at the bottom. I ended up wrapping the cable around the post which seems to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sand wedge View Post
    I have both the Reverb and eTen. So far i've only used it for 2 trail rides and noticed the seat does not always come all the way to the top when the trail gets rough.
    Are you sure you have the cable adjusted correctly? Have a look while pressing the actuator that the lever thing under seat is getting full travel up and down.

    Quote Originally Posted by sand wedge View Post
    BTW, one annoying thing is that the remote cabling attaches to the front of the post instead of the rear. The cable bunches up on the top tube when the seat is at the bottom. I ended up wrapping the cable around the post which seems to work.
    I thought that was a good thing to be honest, less chance of mud and grit being sprayed up into the cable and lever area. If you use a cable tie or a plastic p clamp on the bolt that goes through the seatpost clamp it can guide cable quite nicely without having it bunch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamr33 View Post
    Are you sure you have the cable adjusted correctly? Have a look while pressing the actuator that the lever thing under seat is getting full travel up and down.



    I thought that was a good thing to be honest, less chance of mud and grit being sprayed up into the cable and lever area. If you use a cable tie or a plastic p clamp on the bolt that goes through the seatpost clamp it can guide cable quite nicely without having it bunch up.
    Yup, the cable is fine, this does not happen riding on smooth surfaces. I'll have to give it a few more rides.

    I have my post pretty much all the way into the frame so it more of an issue for me but i can see it would be an advantage in muddy situations.

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    Yup, when it gets rough, the post does not want to come all the way up. Maybe an inch short. I then cycle the seat down and up and all is good again. Not complaining much, the positives still out weigh the negatives.

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    jsut got mine today and installed it. I can confirm it doesn't have the odi compatible lock ring for your grips but that is of little consequence to me. as far as cable bunching up, mine came with a ziptie and a plastic guide to place around the seatpost. from there, I just ran the cable along the cable stops with my brake/shifters and it seems good. I wont get it out on the trail for a couple days since we got a lot of rain going on. I paid close attention to how I installed the cable to make sure I got full engagement of the lever and the post seems to go up and down flawlessly. I paid $140 from arts cyclery, considering a new thompson post goes for $100 this seems to be a great deal and with a 2 year warranty should it break, I'll probably just buy a new one while I wait for it to get serviced and then I can have another one for another bike or just sell the refurbished one.

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    Did my first ride on it yesterday. I was having the same issue of not always getting that last inch or so of travel. it was only a minor annoyance and for the price point of this dropper post vs others I would certainly not let it dissuade me from buying it. I'm 6'3 and riding an xl yelli screamy and I'm still a bit of a newb to the mtb game and having some issues with my setup being comfortable with my knees but that is more because I could use a bit more setback or perhaps just shorter 170 mm cranks (I have a torn acl in my left knee and some meniscus damage in the right so the mashing aspect of some of MTB isn't the greatest for me but it's just too much fun" If i find I continue to have this problem, I will probably just raise my post up out of the frame a little bit, I'd rather have it be slightly too high when I'm pedaling flats and going up hills than have it be too low and the 4 inches of drop is plenty for my riding. Early impressions I give this dropper an A- because the cost is just so low it really scores in the value dept.

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    I got an eten a week a go and have been on 5 rides with it. It works perfectly, goes all the way down and all the way back up, nice and smooth,. The remote works perfectly I got it for $138.00 from Art's Cyclery. This is the best money I have spent on my bike in quite a while. The only thing I would change is the clamp. It is a single bolt and is harder to adjust than a dual bolt design. It does hold my seat in place though (no slop) and I weigh 210 LBS.

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    Yep, I pulled the trigger on an eTen shortly after starting this thread. I weigh 200 and ride hard. I have bent three seats in the past year and a half, and started thinking that getting that thing out of the way more often would be a good thing. The eTen works flawlessly, and I honestly couldn't point out a single thing I would improve or could justify spending more money on. Yes, there is a single bolt clamp, but it's very easy to adjust in my experience and stays tight. As others have said about droppers in general, I almost can't remember how I managed to ride without one. I use it constantly to make micro adjustments to seat height trail riding, and slam it for sustained downhills. It makes such a huge difference to be able to raise or drop it 2mm for a hard climb or a slow techy rock garden that still requires strong pedaling. Hopefully, this holds up well in the long run, but if and when it goes in under warranty for service, I'm seriously going to probably just buy a second one and cycle them. Hands down, best $126 I've ever spent on my bike. And a buddy picked one up for $105 in a different diameter that fit his Enduro.

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    Can anyone that has one measure the min insertion distance from the rails to the line? I wanna get one of these however not sure if my setup would allow, with the total being only 385MM, I have about 225MM of exposed seat post to my rails currently, is this a big enough post? Thanks for the help.

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    also recently bought the eten for my yeti 575 AM build. Smooth action and unbeatable quality at the price. This post is a game changer for the dropper market.
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    Anyone looking for the "inside" of the eTen here is a video (that also shows how to service it ) :



    Here is the video probably most know but just to compare it to the dropzone / super natural :

    KS Service Video - SN and DZ 720p Web.mov - YouTube


    I'm also interested to get one but I'm not sure what to choose :

    eTen : 100 mm travel for the price of 90 euros
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    Dropzone : 125 travel for the price of 130 euros

    Does the later one worth the extra $$$ ? (They both come with lever and 31.6 size which I need)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogdan_mb View Post
    Anyone looking for the "inside" of the eTen here is a video (that also shows how to service it ) :



    Here is the video probably most know but just to compare it to the dropzone / super natural :

    KS Service Video - SN and DZ 720p Web.mov - YouTube


    I'm also interested to get one but I'm not sure what to choose :

    eTen : 100 mm travel for the price of 90 euros
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    Dropzone : 125 travel for the price of 130 euros

    Does the later one worth the extra $$$ ? (They both come with lever and 31.6 size which I need)

    the drop zone costs you 50% more for 25% travel, only you know if your style of riding really makes that necessary. for me personally, I can't imagine needing more drop than what the eten gives me but I'm also a newb and a relatively tame rider. others may be different. what drew me to the eten is that it may actually be BETTER for me because its cheap because it's constructed from heavier steel parts. Generally speaking steel means better durability and I'm 250 lbs

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    I've made a measure before and 100 mm should be fine for me now , but I don't know in the future if the extra length will help or not, following the simple rule of : more is better I have to think from the beginning , since I cannot make it longer afterwards .

    I have some other details that turn my balance in favor of the Dropzone since my bike is white with red accents that extra touch on the collar would look nice and also I have this grips on my bike : Cannondale D3 Lock-on Grips with White Rings - KA041/WHT - CannondaleExperts.com - http://www.cannondale-parts.de/WebRo...2/DSCN6521.JPG that have a similar system like Odi ( I don't know if it's the same) but the idea of fixing the lever on the end of the grips sounds good.

    But these details doesn't mean much to me , I was just curious if there are noticeable performance difference between them. Forgot to mention my weight is around 165 - 170 lbs.

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    I bit the bullet and ordered one. I'm pretty stoke to have a dropped, I just dont bother with my seat anymore and leave it in a ridable position all the time now.
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    I just got done installing the eTen. Its my first dropper, and my only other experience with a drop post is friends bikes (RS Reverb & CB Kronolog). With all the stories Ive read here, and the issues my friends have had, I was hesitant, but the price of the post made it worth the risk. The installation was a no brainer...was kinda concerned while reading the instructions due to the lack of info about how to connect and route the cable and such, but once I had post in hand and was putting it all on the bike, it just fell together. Granted I put some time into the cable routing etc...but overall it was much easier than expected.

    Took a quick spin around the neighborhood, and so far, so good! I noticed it feels butter smooth. Compared to the other posts Ive sat on, it was as smooth or smoother. Held my #240 butt with ease, and the trigger is really comfortable/easy to operate. Those of you who are concerned about the post only having 4" of travel...I wonder why you would want more? Bottom line, the post is awesome, especially for the low price. Now its just a matter of time, first real ride is a couple days away. Cant wait!

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    I got mine monday, 5 minute install and it works perfect so far. I have ridden a bit but not much and no issue's so far. Going riding tonight so that should be a good test.
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    FWIW it worked flawless all night for me. And like a little kid with a new toy I messed with it the entire ride.
    I like to fart when I'm in front of you on a climb

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    Same for me...put a decent amount of time on mine, and its been perfect. Hope it stays that way One thing I question, is whether or not the rebound speed can be adjusted? It goes back up just fine, and never came up short, but if it was a little faster, I would like it mo'betta.

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    Also looking to pull the triger on this but concerned about the 20mm offset. I currently have 0 offset on my post.

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    Dont forget you have some room to move the seat on the rail's. My Chromag seat has a good bit of room to move it around.


    I got another ride in on mine and it worked flawless for me.
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    Thanks 94krawler

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    An update on my KS eten... After 3 months use it is now losing height (10-20mm) on long uphill sections with full weight on the seatpost. It returns to full height after pressing the remote but it is quite annoying to have to do this half way up a climb. So looks like I'll have to look into fixing it or maybe it just needs more air pressure in the cartridge, not sure at this stage, just a warning on the reliability of this unit for potential buyers.

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    Just put some hard miles on my eten on the bumpy lava cap in Chico Ca. The post got a really good workout, and so did I It was its first true test, and I have to say, it was flawless. I have become a believer in the ways of the dropper...now lets see how long it lasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamr33 View Post
    An update on my KS eten... After 3 months use it is now losing height (10-20mm) on long uphill sections with full weight on the seatpost. It returns to full height after pressing the remote but it is quite annoying to have to do this half way up a climb. So looks like I'll have to look into fixing it or maybe it just needs more air pressure in the cartridge, not sure at this stage, just a warning on the reliability of this unit for potential buyers.
    Have you double checked the litte ferrule where it intersects with the housing stop under the seat? A few times, mine has popped loose, which results in the cable being just slightly pulled--similar to very light pressure on the remote--but it's enough to let the post drop with full weight on it. A quick wiggle back into place and it's good to go.

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    any talk of 27.2 coming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietz31684 View Post
    any talk of 27.2 coming?
    I doubt they could do a 27.2 at that pricepoint - so much more involved with the remote canister that their 27.2 products have.

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    I just ordered one from Modern Bike. $138 shipped is right where I need to be for a dropper post. I hope it works decent and lasts a couple of years at least.

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    Update - I received my post and installed it, no problems, just had to shorten the cable a bit. Took it for the first ride this weekend and it worked great! My first ride with a dropper post and I am a firm believer. I find myself annoyed that the seat is in the way if I don't remember to drop it, or if the trail is a lot of quick up and down, and it really can't be dropped. With the seat lowered my bike feels like a BMX bike, easy to whip around, and much faster through turns going downhill. This post is a nice way to get into droppers.

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    Another update. I have had this post for over 2 months and at least 40 to 50 rides. It continues to work very well. A couple of things I have noticed, there is a little rotational play, although I don't notice this while riding, and the seat tends to slide back over time. This drift is not much, maybe 3 or 4 millimeters over a couple of weeks. This could be due to my saddle rails, I am not sure.... They are hollow Ti. I do think a dual bolt clamp would alleviate this.

    Overall this is one of the best upgrades I have done to my bike in quite a while and I would not hesitate to recommend this post particularly for the money ($138.00).

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    Mine has been flawless so far.
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    Got mine in the mail today, and put it on. For $124 shipped I doubt I would dislike it unless the thing snapped in half the first time I sat down. Every thing works as well as I would expect, and I was able to install it in a way that fit great. Only thing I didn't like is how the cable attaches to the lever. It would be prettier without the end of the cable sticking out. But hey, for what I paid I just want something that works.
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    Received my eten without remote few days ago. Cost 100 euros from Accueil - PureBike - Pièces, matériel et accessoires VTT, vélo de route, BMX There is a tiny side to side play, but it is unnoticeable when riding. I got the model with saddle lever because there were many complaints about the remote one. Will give it the full use now and report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuLax18 View Post
    Got mine in the mail today, and put it on. For $124 shipped I doubt I would dislike it unless the thing snapped in half the first time I sat down. Every thing works as well as I would expect, and I was able to install it in a way that fit great. Only thing I didn't like is how the cable attaches to the lever. It would be prettier without the end of the cable sticking out. But hey, for what I paid I just want something that works.
    Where did you buy it for $124? I thought I got a good deal for $138 shipped.

    Awesome post by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69tr6r View Post
    Where did you buy it for $124? I thought I got a good deal for $138 shipped.

    Awesome post by the way.
    These guys, but after reading on here their shipping is slow, so I price matched with Jenson, thus no tax/free shipping. Last night I found it for $120, but I would pay tax on that unless Jenson would price match that too. I actually found them by checking prices on Google shopping, and surprisingly the lowest price wasn't some sketchy online retailer I've never heard of.

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    Haven't had time to look into it yet, but my eten started sagging tonight...about an inch or two. It's got a couple hundred miles on it so far and I'm 240 lbs, so it's been worked pretty good over the last couple of months. Gonna check the cable at the seat clamp and see if its hanging up at all, or if maybe the cable is hanging up causing a prob...really like the post and hope I can fix it because I can't imagine riding without it now!

    The post has developed a bit of side to side play at the seat that has increased a bit over time, but as long as it doesn't get worse I'm not worried about it.

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    Mine did that and I found the cable was sliding in the zip tie on my frame when I'd drop and then catch going back up. I had just switched everything over to a new frame so I didnt give it much thought and it was the post's fault.

    I ditched my QR clamp now since the dropper. I did find that if I over tighten the seat post clamp it will try to stick a bit. Backed the seat clamp off a tiny bit and its smooth.
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    5 weeks on my eten with at least every other day riding rough trails in Grand Junction (about 200 miles or so), CO and working well. I also got it because I tend to break things and it seems easily replaceable at the $124 I pain. I like the action more than the reverb, which I have ridden on demo bikes several times. 100 mm drop is fine for me as a trail rider.

    The cable seems to stick sometimes and does not fully return to the "off" position so that when I load the seat after rising it, it wants to go down. This happens for the first 3-4 drops and then goes away. Probably need to lube the cable, but I'm not that bothered by it.

    Overall, good choice.

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    I'm still working on dialing in my mounting position so that I get the best blend of pedal efficiency and clearance for DH. On longer climbs I notice myself not getting quite as much extension as I'd like, but I don't want to give up the ability to move it out of the way also. Gone off a couple drops and forgot to put it down, and was rudely reminded.
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    I ride often with the VTVolk, the guy who started this post, and we both have been hammering on our Eten's and they are still going strong. Not sure about other posts, but on a few cold night rides the post takes a few drops to get going. Nothing that really bothers me. Other than that, it has been a reliable and very reasonable upgrade in terms of cost. I cant imagine spending double this would get me a product that is twice as good. I do wish that the remote lever was the higher end one on the Lev so i could integrate with my ODI lock ring. I am also too cheap to upgrade for that minor improvement....

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    I wonder if you could buy that lever by itself and swap it out?


    Only issue I've noticed with mine is sometimes the seat rails seem to creak in the mount, at least I think that's what it is, when I land on the seat somewhat hard. No issues with movement though, and I transport my bike sideways in the back of my car.
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    I have not seen the lever only listed but its sold in some kinda kit form for the higher end post's IIRC. I wouldnt mind the upgraded lever as I ride lock on's myself. Assuming they would it would fit my Lizard skins Peaty's anyways.
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    I think it can be done because I had a friend who got the LEV integra when it came out, and his came with a different lever than it should have. The distributor said he would send him a new lever, although I don't know if this ever happened for sure.
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    You still in the bay Stu? will be riding again.

    hopefully, I can hear more about feedback about this dropper. I am looking to buy one soon and reliability is a big issue.

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    Update: still haven't been riding much but I was noticing that some times the post wasn't coming up the last half inch. It was simply a case of the seatclamp being too tight. I loosened it a bit and no problems at all yesterday

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    I just received my eten and installed it. One oddity: the instructions that come with it don't tell you how to install or route the cable, they just describe how to insert the seatpost, put a seat on it and mount the remote to the bars. Seems like it would be helpful to explain how to attach the cable on each end and some tips on routing it. It wasn't too hard to figure out, however.

    First ride was flawless; dropped on command, rose back to full height on command. Looking forward to giving it a workout. My only complaint so far is that I do wish it was 125mm or even 150mm drop; I can see how having a little more drop would be nice on the really steep and rocky sections. I'm wary of the issues described here, but frankly if you check out threads on other droppers (Lev, Thompson, Reverb, CB, etc.) they all suffer from similar performance problems at times, so paying 2x-3x as much for a different model doesn't ensure you won't have problems. So far I'm pretty stoked on it.

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