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    9point8 new dropper post???

    I came across this yesterday looking for info on a new dropper post.



    Looks like a Canadian company with a new post in the works and going customer direct according to the website. Home - Nine Point Eight Inc.

    The lever is interesting, I know the lever on my Gravity Dropper is the one thing I hate.

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    Looks alright, Id prefer not to take my finger off my brake though. Could be alot easier than I think though, I dont mind my reverb so I am sure this wouldnt be too bad either.
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    so i got a little info about this post.

    (1:48:03 PM) me: 1. will it be offered with a traditional thumb activated lever,
    2. will there be a version with the cable attached at a fixed location instead of the head?,
    3. drop length(s)?
    4. any idea of price?
    i love the idea of a stepped and full drop system​ but taking my finger off my brake to use it is a scary thought.

    (1:49:18 PM) John: 1. no plans to offer a thumb lever at this time. I was skeptical about the index finger lever initially too, but it does work really well. Everyone that has tried it has liked it.
    (1:49:46 PM) John: 2. again, no plans at this time.
    (1:50:13 PM) John: 3. 100mm stroke, and it steps in 5mm increments (or full drop)
    (1:51:37 PM) John: 4. sorry, i can't give you any pricing details yet, though I will say, it is a premium product and will command a premium price. The stepping feature is really a game changer in our opinion.
    (1:52:04 PM) John: Regarding taking your finger off the brake lever, that was exactly my thought initially
    (1:52:33 PM) John: but i did find that the moments where i need my finger on the brake are usually also the moments I need my thumb securely wrapped around the bar!

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    I like the mechanism for putting the post down. It looks like you don't have to put pressure on it to drop the post. I love my Reverb but it can a slight pain to have to pressure the post to lower it.
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    Taking the index finger off shouldn't be a problem if you brake with two fingers.

    Increments looks nice, pity it only has 100mm drop. I imagine what most people are concerned about would be reliability. Is it mechanical locking?

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    It looks like you don't have to put pressure on it to drop the post.
    He's definitely pushing on it to get it to go down.

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    Sorry, but infinite adustment in 5mm incriments is not game changing at all. Ditto for head cable attachment.

    Really looks like these guys took all the "undesireable" portions of a seatpost to make theirs. Pity as I would love to support a Canadian company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cerebroside View Post
    Taking the index finger off shouldn't be a problem if you brake with two fingers.

    Increments looks nice, pity it only has 100mm drop. I imagine what most people are concerned about would be reliability. Is it mechanical locking?



    He's definitely pushing on it to get it to go down.
    It looks like a ratchet system to lower it? Meh, maybe I'm wrong.
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    Looks pretty interesting!
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    I like the converting head to offset. 5mm is a small enough increments to be effectively infinite and not change the way you ride adversely(like with fixed stops) like the command post. More competition=better.

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    I like how it can be adjusted in small increments, not a new idea but always enjoyed that ability. Guess ill have to check back when more info comes available on the 21st via what Home - Nine Point Eight Inc. said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelbster15 View Post
    I like how it can be adjusted in small increments, not a new idea but always enjoyed that ability. Guess ill have to check back when more info comes available on the 21st via what Home - Nine Point Eight Inc. said.
    Out of curiosity which other post had the stepper small increments adjustments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cerebroside View Post
    Taking the index finger off shouldn't be a problem if you brake with two fingers.
    Taking a finger off the rear brake is not a big problem if you brake with front brake.

    Any idea on the weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    Out of curiosity which other post had the stepper small increments adjustments?
    Yeah, sorry that wasn't an accurate description on my part. I meant an adjustable seatpost in general. In reference to the hydraulic ones that let you set the height, but by no means are those exact. That 9point8 has taken it a step further and made it exact steps of travel which I like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007 View Post
    Sorry, but infinite adustment in 5mm incriments is not game changing at all. Ditto for head cable attachment.

    Really looks like these guys took all the "undesireable" portions of a seatpost to make theirs. Pity as I would love to support a Canadian company.
    I agree. I think the 5mm increment adjustment is rather gimmicky.

    What the heck is the difference between 1 inch of drop and 1.2 inches of seat drop? I either want my seat up for pedaling or slammed for downhill. Every once in a while I want it somewhere in between for rolling terrain but I don't need 5mm increments to find that position. There are already infinitely adjustable posts on the market that don't require you to ratchet the lever. I think it is easier to hold the lever and sit until the seat is where you want it and let go of the lever.

    I am a bit old school and have a gravity dropper. It has a spring and a pin. It goes up and down and is very reliable. I can choose between fully extended, 1 inch drop or 4" drop. I can't see why I would need any other settings in between. I'm not particular (or weenie enough) to need my seat dropped exactly 45mm for a section of trail.

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    The post doesn't require you to ratchet the lever... in the video he was just demonstrating the increments. I welcome a new competitor, it can only be good for the marketplace. Hopefully it's a good, reliable post.

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    Received my new post today on my way out of town for a bike trip. Just in time. It will be installed in the morning before we hit the trails.

    We're riding DH/free ride at Windrock tomorrow and then over to Pisgah for some trail riding. The pedal up and bomb down style of riding should be a great chance to try out the post.

    Will post some thoughts and a review. Photos coming too.

    Initial impression is that the quality is insanely high. Every part of the post and lever is very well thought out. Very very nice. Impressed.

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    Usd $499.00 (!)

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    Super easy install and set up. I volunteered to drive shuttle, had the post installed before the other riders finished the first run.

    Didn't love the lever feel at the factory setting, but its tuneable with air pressure. I was able to pull the post out and access the valve, dropped it about 50psi and its very light action now, but easy tactile feedback between the ratchet and slammo settings. All this was done without having to disconnect the cabling.

    The post was amazing in action on the mountain today. I have to give it top marks for how precisely positionable it is and how intuitive it is to work. In about 10 minutes it was like I've had it forever. Learning curve?

    There are a couple of places on the mountain where a pedalling section abruptly becomes a section of gnar with wheelie drops and steep chutes. I am pretty sure the post got used more than my gears and brakes.

    No exaggeration, I surprised myself in a couple of spots where I had extra confidence to hit some big drops...was super easy to set up and drop the seat and flow right off.

    Tomorrow is a trail day, will post more impressions.

    Thoroughly loving it so far. Bomber construction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dump View Post
    Usd $499.00 (!)
    500 bills, directly from the manufacturer. that's ridiculous money.
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    Today we rode in Pisgah.

    The route we did had a bunch of different sections. There was an uphill climb, parts were smooth, parts were techy. Then a big hike, over a ridge to an insane gnarfest downhill. Then a wet rooty sidehill trail with rocky stream crossings and logovers and boulder piles.

    I got a ton of chances to try the post in different scenarios.

    For the uphill, there were lots of places where the trail required hopping up over roots, water bars and obstacles, and it was great to be able to drop the post 1, 2 or 3 clicks to get a bigger hop while still being able to sit and pedal efficiently.

    My bike is hard to carry, but today I dropped the seat and was able to lift the whole bike from the lowered saddle. We had to walk a half mile up a skinny rocky ledge.

    Obviously the downhill was amazing, I rode a bunch of it just 1 or 2 clicks down. Again it was easy to move to a fully slammed position in time for a serious drop. Even with the bike rodeo-ing around.

    In the final flow trail, I was slamming the seat for river and stream crossings, and I was managing to have enough space to hop my bike trials-style up and over the far rocky stream banks and downed logs, then right back to pedaling position.

    So everything was flawless.

    I totally love the small changes the post is capable of. In tons of situations, it was a huge thing.

    A couple of people have mentioned the cost...I have watched my buddies travel with spare posts and it seems like everyone owns two or three, with a bunch of backups. It seems like everyone has a story about breaking or fixing a post. Lifetime warranty on the 9point8. Just holding it in your hand makes other droppers look like a toy. It's build quality and function are on par with any top end fork or component. It's obvious that there's substantially more involved than a lot of what's on the market.

    I have to admit, this post is making me rethink my saddle position. I was running my seat back on the rails before, so I could slide fore/aft to get minor leg extension changes. Now that this post can achieve that in the vertical dimension, I am seeing how uncentered I have been before at times. The ability to get a small tweak in leg extension is kind of a game changer...felt so much stronger on the climbs today and made a ton of difficult sections.

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    I brake with one finger, so I think taking the finger of the front brake is unacceptable. There are many times where a surprise downhill section requires dropping the post immediately while you are riding down.

    Isn't that the the whole point of a dropper post, quick on the fly adjustment while you ride?

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    Hey croz...the brilliant design of the lever let's you go left or right, top or bottom and at right angles. Its way more customizable than any other control I have ever had. Tons of ways you could mount it. It plays nicely with the other stuff on my bars...sits just along my other controls with perfect offset.

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    I got my post the other day and took it out for a good solid ride on some known-trails (I prefer testing new gear on trails I am familiar with first). I've tried a few posts including Rock Shox, Specialized and AMP (All Mountain Post: no longer around). The AMP post I find is one of the best because it has 3 indexed riding positions and I like to know where I am in saddle height.
    That is what intrigued me about the 9point8 Pulse with it's "stepper" feature.

    Like lukey mentioned, the build quality is top notch. There is a bit of weight to the post but it feels super solid. Some other post feel a bit flimsy to me, especially the heads that bolt down the saddle. The saddle clamping mechanism on the Pulse is sturdy!
    I went with the non-offset saddle head and it worked out fine.

    Also, as lukey said, setup was super easy and quick. Again, you can feel the design and build quality when you are installing the lever and post. The lever is very light and the pieces fit intricately together (very cool).
    The lever is a lot smaller than I was expecting. Not sure if it's the angle of some of the pictures on their website but the lever isn't as intrusive as I would have expected.

    Basically, the post does what you expect it to do. If you are experienced using a dropper post then you know the benefits of using one: drop it down for more control and room when doing anything technical and steep; pops back up when you are riding normally or climbing. That's all you can really ask for it to do.
    At the lever it feels responsive and solid.

    After a few tries you get a good idea what the "stepper" function is all about. I am not a "slam the post all the way down" type of rider. To me dropping the post all the way down is too much.
    I usually dropped the post down 3 to 4 steps and it was perfect for fast downhill sections. It's nice to know that you can push it down more if you need to.

    As for the lever? It takes some getting used to.
    I have my brakes setup for single finger braking so they are positioned a little far inward, which puts the post lever pretty far away. I tried installing the post lever on the outside of the brake lever and rode around my block to see if that would work and found it to interfere with my hand when riding.
    Definitely not a good idea. Keep the lever on the inside of your brake and shift lever setup.

    Towards the end of the ride I was getting accustomed to the lever for post. Maybe a couple of little angle adjustments to get it right.

    As for what CrozCountry said: I understand where you are coming from. Taking your finger away from your brake lever to adjust the post can be a little unnerving and I had a couple of sketchy moments but I think it depends on how well you know the trail to prepare to drop the saddle. I am considering maybe putting the lever on the left side of the bar so I can always have my right finger working the rear brake.

    All I can say is that there is a bit of adjustment time to operating it and it becomes more natural the more you use it.

    The product looks and feels like it will last and take some abuse.

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    I am back from my trip now, and just wanted to drop back in to mention a couple more impressions. The post continued to work well for the rest of the trip, and there were zero issues with the performance. So all totally positive.

    On the third day, we did a ride that began with a 9-mile climb. Many long sections of the climb were steep enough to require a forward position on the bike to keep the front wheel down.

    I had been experimenting with the extension of the post a bit. Before the ride, I inserted the post so that on full extension, it was +5mm *longer* than my old neutral position. Then, using it riding on the trail, I would ride normally dropped 1 click down from full, to put me in my exact same position as before. In other words, the post is +5mm's longer than normal, and I simply drop it one click down 5mm from the top. It's super easy to reset the post to this position and to know where you are with it.

    The benefit of this scheme really shone on this long climb. When I was slid forward on the bike, I could click the post up 5mm's to full extension, and therefore get *normal* leg extension while being in the right spot where I was also keeping the front wheel down on the climb. (Normally, from the front of the saddle, you're also a little closer to your pedals.)

    Think of it like a climb setting like on some forks. Very very cool: a dropper post with a climb setting!

    Most of the other nice things about the post are mentioned in my earlier messages.

    So far, it's a really killer product.

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    So... I've spent a couple more weeks riding the Pulse and I have zero complaints or issues. It's basically disappeared underneath me which is a good sign because you're not thinking about it or worried about it.
    The weather hasn't been the greatest in the southern Ontario region. It's been pretty hot, humid and wet so conditions have been a bit harsh on the bike. Lots of washing and cleaning and so far the Pulse post still performs like it did when I first put it on.
    The main lip seal seems to do its job and the actual mechanics are tucked away up under the seat so they don't get exposed to all the grime.

    So far so good.

    Also, I moved the lever to the left side of the handle bar and it works MUCH better for my style of riding. The use of the lever has become second nature as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dump View Post
    Usd $499.00 (!)
    Yup, I coughed blood when I saw that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Yup, I coughed blood when I saw that...

    I know that the post is more expensive than what else is out there on the market but from what it sounds like you get what you pay for.

    ALL of the threads on this forum about dropper posts have been about finding the most reliable product or how to fix their broken seat post. From what I have come to understand, and researched and read about the 9point8 post is that it is designed and built to last and the company is standing behind their product.

    Yes, the drop is "only" 100mm, shorter compared to the competition but there are reasons why that is according to the website:
    Bearing Stance Why is it Important? - Articles2 - Nine Point Eight Inc.

    Basically, to make it a stronger, more reliable seat post.

    The price is higher because it is billed as a premium product. Not everybody spends $2000-$3000 on a frame, but some do, and that is, from my opinion, is who this product is made for.

    A product that is designed, built to take a beating and built to last. You can feel that it is a solid, high quality seat post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wArden View Post
    I know that the post is more expensive than what else is out there on the market but from what it sounds like you get what you pay for.

    ALL of the threads on this forum about dropper posts have been about finding the most reliable product or how to fix their broken seat post. From what I have come to understand, and researched and read about the 9point8 post is that it is designed and built to last and the company is standing behind their product.

    Yes, the drop is "only" 100mm, shorter compared to the competition but there are reasons why that is according to the website:
    Bearing Stance Why is it Important? - Articles2 - Nine Point Eight Inc.

    Basically, to make it a stronger, more reliable seat post.

    The price is higher because it is billed as a premium product. Not everybody spends $2000-$3000 on a frame, but some do, and that is, from my opinion, is who this product is made for.

    A product that is designed, built to take a beating and built to last. You can feel that it is a solid, high quality seat post.
    Not to rain on your parade, but Thomson does everything you mention with a well-earned reputation to boot. It'll be interesting to see how it lasts, but so far it's been stellar. 20mm less than the competition doesn't seem like a particularly interesting selling point. You can have a wide bearing stance with 120mm travel too. Their main selling point imo is the incremental dropping + mini brake lever. The highest priced post to a brand new company? Not for me.

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    I saw the Thomson and intrigued. I've been a Thomson fan and customer for a long time.

    The 100mm drop on the 9point8 is more than enough for me and my riding style.

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    I'd say the jury's still out on long term performance of the 9point8 (and Thomson for that matter). They haven't been out long enough for anything more than guessing. I've had my 9point8 for about three weeks. So far so good
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    No arguments there.

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    considering they're selling direct to the consumer and are the most expensive? Factor in an additional 30-50% to the MSRP for traditional channel marketing... They're spendy! Either their manufacturing processes are labor intensive and inefficient, driving the cost up or they're seriously gouging their customers. The product may be good, but considering a Thompson costs less from my LBS, one has to wonder what's going on there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    considering they're selling direct to the consumer and are the most expensive? Factor in an additional 30-50% to the MSRP for traditional channel marketing... They're spendy! Either their manufacturing processes are labor intensive and inefficient, driving the cost up or they're seriously gouging their customers. The product may be good, but considering a Thompson costs less from my LBS, one has to wonder what's going on there...
    A new company bringing one new higher end product to market. Their volume is low and their prices will be high. Some companies will do a discounted initial pre-order sale to generate interest in the product.

    They also claim a life time warranty compared to the two year warranty from Thompson. Both companies only claim warranty on workmanship and materials though. 9point8 states that wear/tear parts aren't covered then goes on to list basically every part of the post as wear and tear. So it sounds more like marketing then an actual selling point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kan3 View Post
    A new company bringing one new higher end product to market. Their volume is low and their prices will be high. Some companies will do a discounted initial pre-order sale to generate interest in the product.

    They also claim a life time warranty compared to the two year warranty from Thompson. Both companies only claim warranty on workmanship and materials though. 9point8 states that wear/tear parts aren't covered then goes on basically every part of the post as wear and tear. So it sounds more like marketing then an actual selling point.
    I hear you. Lifetime warranty from a brand new/no-name company isn't worth much. Thompson on the other hand is saying it's two years before any service is required... that is good.

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    At 9point8, we understand that our reputation for customer service will be built on our response to warranty claims, if/when they occur. We stand behind our lifetime warranty, and will interpret each claim generously. The warranty covers ALL parts in the post, but may not cover the wear and tear on parts after lengthy use.

    With reasonable care and maintenance, and some replacement of some wear and tear components from time to time, the post will be guaranteed to work for you as long as you own it.

    But the proof will only come with time. Give us a chance to earn your confidence; we will not disappoint. Contact our customer service team at any time, if you have any questions.

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    ^ good deal, thanks steven.

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    I'm thinking seriously about going with one of these in spite of the price, the potential issues a new company represents and the rather high shipping costs.

    It is a nice looking product and I'd like to see some major improvement in durability.

    Anybody got any pics of their installation?
    All the examples I see on their website look pretty clean but they don't have a lot of variation in 4 or 5 photos of similar brake/shifter components in spite of being produced by several different manufactures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer View Post
    Anybody got any pics of their installation?
    All the examples I see on their website look pretty clean but they don't have a lot of variation in 4 or 5 photos of similar brake/shifter components in spite of being produced by several different manufactures.
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    Well they seem responsive to questions.
    I'm not far from putting money down on a dropper and this is one of three possibilities.

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    I placed an order, should be in late next week. I think the bolt on seatpost clamp might be a few days later but I should get to try it out local sometime next weekend. Ready for trips the weekend after.

    The price is pretty high but top alternates were the Thompson, the KS LEV and the KS Supernatural. None of them are exactly inexpensive.

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    I have been looking and the range is 250/430 for all others. I mean a 100 difference for steps seems like a no brainer yes to me. Down, seat is down. Up, seat is up. Regular trail, I like a little lower than full up, so the step function to me seems the way to be able to lock in that spot vs guessing how much down all time.

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    Just chiming in - got about 40+ days on the post now plus a three week road trip through the Yukon and Northern BC. Flawless.

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    Bumping this thread up, as it's been several weeks...
    Everyone still happy with this? Lukey? Warden?

    I'm thinking I'm heading this way for my first dropper.

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    50 odd rides so far on the post. Flawless. Never touch it for maintenance
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    The post is still working flawlessly.

    However, one unanticipated issue is that I had to get a new bike for it. It turned my AM ride into a FR/DH beast...or so I thought until I slowly destroyed the frame over the course of the season.

    The post really opened up a can of worms. It's so intuitive and fast to change heights that it made my riding a lot more fun. Your old frame my regret it if you get one. I couldn't recommend it enough if you want to go bigger and faster, it's lightning quick to adapt to the terrain you're encountering. Just like braking or shifting, just flowing along and switching the height is very fluid and doesn't take any real concentration.

    I am starting to see a bit of wiggle in the alignment pins, which doesn't affect performance and can't be felt yet. Just a guess: I think it's going to go about one to two full seasons before those need changing, we shall see.

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    Thanks for making what seems to be a good product guys, but hey, c'mon, the price? Really? $500 clams?

    As I've recently begun to look at droppers, even the $300 - $400 price point of some other posts seem unreasonable in my mind.

    Take an item like this for example. Stop and consider all of the manufactured parts (many precision) within this thing; a complete gas engine, an electric motor, the fuel tank, the frame, the panel, the wheels..............and all for less than an adjustable seat-post for a bike.

    I suggest that you'd sell a lot more of them (and make more money) if you made a serious adjustment on the price.
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    Having just purchased a Reverb and having it fail in the middle of a 34 mile bike ride, I now think I should have gone a different route. The Pulse is kind of ridiculous in pricing, but if I never have to stop on a trail and rig my bike to work, I can see it being a solid purchase. Now to fix the Reverb, sell it and some other bits to afford a Pulse...

    To the guys who own one- Can you portage with this post? Some of the hikes I have to make are super steep and it's just easier to throw the bike on a shoulder. I'm worried it would damage the post, so any experiences with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuffguy View Post
    To the guys who own one- Can you portage with this post? Some of the hikes I have to make are super steep and it's just easier to throw the bike on a shoulder. I'm worried it would damage the post, so any experiences with this?
    Yes, you can lift the bike from the saddle, it's a great system for that kind of thing. At any height setting the post is locked in a vertical height position against both upwards and downwards force. It's easy to hook the nose over your shoulder or to lift it from your hand. The seat and the post won't move up/down unless the bar-trigger is also pressed down.

    I did a major 10-mile plus hike-a-bike ride this summer which involved climbing up to shoulder-height rock ledges for several hours. I actually found I was using the dropper to make the bike theconvenient height to lift depending on what clearance or height I needed. My frame didn't otherwise have a good handling point because of the shock placement, so slamming/raising the seat made it into a kind of grab handle that was well balanced to lift the bike with one hand. At lower height I could lift it over tall ground obstacles, then at higher settings I could reach it from above and haul it up.

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    A new lever?

    Looks like they are working on a new lever design for the Pulse. Pretty cool.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The new lever plays nice with Shimano brakes. <a href="https://twitter.com/9point8ca">@9point8ca</a> <a href="http://t.co/Bt42g1QMAT">pic.twitter.com/Bt42g1QMAT</a></p>&mdash; Dundas Speed Shop (@DundasSpeedShop) <a href="https://twitter.com/DundasSpeedShop/statuses/398885432965869568">November 8, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    Hi 9point8 Seatpost fans! Just a quick report on something cool that I did today!

    All you riders with the 9point8 products are probably being contacted about the free titanium bolt/cable-guide upgrade program? I got the message about cool new parts coming my way.

    So yeah, I got my new stuff today. The cool new parts are great! But that's not what this message is mainly about, since there's an interesting story of how I got my items...

    Now the background to this story is that I had actually had a chance to see one of the "prototype mules" in-person when it was installed on a tester's bike before they were ever announced for sale. Since that time I was impressed by the product and hence I bought one just as soon as they came available on the market.

    But this is all another way of stating that I randomly *happen to live somewhat geographically near to where the fabrication plant is*!

    Having an early copy of the post and living near the plant coincidentally became very relevant to today's story...

    So when I was emailed about the new parts they would be sending out to owners, the 9point8 guys offered the special option of picking it up in-person from their facility or having it shipped to my shipping address. Basically, they were like..."you're pretty local...do you want to pick up, or should we mail it out for you?"

    Right about then, I actually was planning on rebuilding my post which was feeling a slight bit wobbly. I mentioned that I wanted to go ahead purchase the rebuild kit and pick up the upgrade kit and the rebuild kit together. That ended up opening up a whole can of worms!

    Ordering a rebuild kit? That idea became a point of concern for the guys at 9point8: Their mindset was that there's simply no way the post should require rebuilding at this point in time and they wanted me to bring the post back in for an careful inspection in case there was a problem they needed to address.

    So these guys are the real deal and they are *really serious* about backing up the product to the fullest extent possible. Needing to change seals and bushings after a year of riding? Total anathema for these guys. The product was intended to be indestructible and if it wasn't for some reason, they would want a chance to make it better...impressive attitude.

    So today was the day! It was really great to meet Phil and Steve at 9point8 and I was given a quick look at the area where they fabricate the seatposts. Huge stoke to check out their base of operations.

    Seatpost surgery was underway. My post was inspected and dismantled while I watched. It's incredible to be able to report that there is basically zero wear after all these miles (at least 1500).

    Now, I've been rebuilding my own shocks and forks since I was a suspension tech, but the 9point8 product is seriously another level of sophistication than what I'm used to seeing going on with mountain bikes. There's some genius design going on inside the post. This isn't the kind of product where it's filled with plastic parts and gets contaminated inside after a couple of rides in the rain. It's just another level.

    It was cool to see all the super miniature parts and the precise clockwork deep inside the valves, but also how there are several layers of protection for every element within the assembly. Each item carefully nested inside another and so on, like those russian dolls. One plainly remarkable fact that stood out is how durable the post is. I actually have trouble conceiving of a way it could be better designed or better protected.

    I was able to compare my posts' parts along side brand new copies and there was no way to discriminate a difference. It really was exactly like it was made yesterday in every way. When was the last time you could say that about anything installed on a mountain bike after a year of bashing?

    I also watched Phil and Steve take detailed checks and measurements of all the wear parts and after a full inspection, there was no measurable change in the post over all that time. Absolutely perfect. Stunning. I've gone through a set of fork bushings and two sets of shock bushings in exact same amount of time, but the post is basically still flawless.

    As reported in my earlier message on here, my post had a little bit of wiggle going into the service and I was expecting to have to replace some parts to be able eliminate that. Nope.

    The verdict on that particular mystery was that you should probably do the routine maintenance. I simply ignored the post completely. That tiny bit of play was completely eliminated by greasing the top part of the "dry side" assembly. Pretty simple issue that I could have dealt with myself.

    So bottom line, if your post has developed a trace of wobble after a few months, a bit of grease might be called for.

    Given the self-adjusting nature of the design as it wears and how astoundingly bulletproof it is, I cannot foresee actually needing to rebuild this post or replacing parts after MANY years of riding. There's a good chance I will wear out long before the post will.

    I waited a long time for a post that is basically indestructible, and I am even more sure that the 9point8 product is the highest standard you would ever wish for in that department. Brilliant product.

    My only lingering disappointment is that they don't yet build the other mountain bike parts too! I await the revolution. For now, we have to be satisifed that they have engineered the hell out of the dropper post.

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    Crazy! I just saw that there is a cyber-Monday sale on the 9point8 post for $375! That's a pretty good deal.
    Wish I waited a few months before I got mine and could have saved some coin.
    Ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wArden View Post
    Crazy! I just saw that there is a cyber-Monday sale on the 9point8 post for $375! That's a pretty good deal.
    Wish I waited a few months before I got mine and could have saved some coin.
    Ha!
    Friday I started checking all sites for a black Friday deal on a dropper post. Then got email from 9point8, how smart of them. Bought mine and status is shipped! Shipping bit pricey thou......

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    lol, on sale for 375!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishwrinkle View Post
    lol, on sale for 375!
    Yes, I too find that funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Technician View Post
    Yes, I too find that funny.
    Funny how?
    $375 is a lot of money funny?
    I get it, but they are $100 more usually, and the competition is now equal and greater than the $375. Hence, the choice to try the 9point8.

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    I'd direct your attention to my earlier post (#47) in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Technician View Post
    I'd direct your attention to my earlier post (#47) in this thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Technician View Post
    Take an item like this for example. [link to gas generator]
    This argument made perfect sense to me, so I am now sitting on a gas generator. It was only $25 more than the 9point8. As a bonus, I now have a dirtbike.

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    If you're willing & happy to relieve yourself of ~$400.00 of hard-earned after-tax dollars for a bike seatpost, then by all means go for it. That's the great thing about a free & open market. But please don't make the mistake of viewing those who see said purchase as unreasonable, your enemy.
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    It has been a while since I visited this thread.
    I have to say I am currently more than happy with the folks at 9point8.
    Turns out my installation was a bit more involved on my end for reasons I won't get into at the moment but having nothing to do with 9point8 EXCEPT for the fact that they really went out of their way to help me out on this one.

    The parts are excellent quality, machining is better than a lot of aircraft grade work I've seen. I do not have a lot of time on mine at present so I can't address durability. All I can say is the functionality starting out is very nice. I did receive the new seat clamp bolts complete with a small container of anti-seize and the cable guide. Very nice support touch.

    I am less concerned about the initial expense than I am the durability. IF this product delivers on durability so that the lifetime warranty doesn't need to get exercised and the company continues to exhibit the quality of manufacturing and customer support (just in case you need the warranty) then it could very well work out to be a less expensive option in the long run. Buy once - cry once and then laugh on down the trail. My bud who owns his bikeshop says he's sent about half the Kindshocks he's sold back for repair or rebuild. Claims they work once they come back but he expects to send them back once under the warranty period.

    As for the gas generator, in economies of scale I suspect there are more gas generators sold in this country than non-Wally world 'mountain bikes' much less automatic seatposts. Even complex assemblies get less expensive when you build a lot of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wArden View Post
    Looks like they are working on a new lever design for the Pulse. Pretty cool.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The new lever plays nice with Shimano brakes. <a href="https://twitter.com/9point8ca">@9point8ca</a> <a href="http://t.co/Bt42g1QMAT">pic.twitter.com/Bt42g1QMAT</a></p>— Dundas Speed Shop (@DundasSpeedShop) <a href="https://twitter.com/DundasSpeedShop/statuses/398885432965869568">November 8, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    I'm somewhat curious about this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer View Post
    As for the gas generator, in economies of scale I suspect there are more gas generators sold in this country than non-Wally world 'mountain bikes' much less automatic seatposts. Even complex assemblies get less expensive when you build a lot of them.
    Even when economy of scale is factored in, it doesn't come close to accounting for the price differential. Again, I ask that you pause and consider the long list of parts, materials, tooling, finishing, coatings, labour etc involved in said generator example. Heck, even if you considered just the engine component alone, it truly is shocking that the price of a seatpost is equivalent.
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    As an engineer who regularly has to deal with single parts and small production runs for prototypes, repairs and modifications done in quantities of 1-20 I do NOT find it shocking at all. I've seen simple aluminum machined parts going for $5K-15K each with no moving parts, just a hunk of billet say a foot or so by 6" x 4" machined to shape (nothing fancy +/- .030 CAD model provided and without any fastener pilot holes) and primed.

    Heck I've seen 12 fasteners cost the same as 200 of the same type when somebody decided to order exactly the number required for one job instead of ordering the number required to do the 10 identical jobs booked at the time. Just in time manufacture means even cataloged items may not be available without a six month to two year lead time and minimum quantity buy.

    Larger production runs make a HUGE difference in price. Small and prototype production runs costs much more in setting up the machines, creating the engineering documents any CAM programs, buying stock at smaller discounts having to pay expedite fees to get your job done because the production facilities will put larger jobs that were booked later in front of your job because they want 500 parts and you want 12 or they want 15000 parts and you want 500.

    Plus having to deal with governmental regulations for 'pollution', worker safety, employment, taxes, customs and industry specific regulations on top of that I find it rather amazing we are able to do business at all.

    I'm not saying their price point is overly attractive just that it may be much more justified than you think. If this post outlasts a $200 seatpost by a factor of two or three then even without the warranty it is more than worth it to me. If the company survives and stands behind their products like they seem to be doing at the moment then IMO the other manufacturers are going to have to step up their game. If on the other hand the product or the company turns out to be substandard then I'll be less than thrilled. Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1362 View Post
    Friday I started checking all sites for a black Friday deal on a dropper post. Then got email from 9point8, how smart of them. Bought mine and status is shipped! Shipping bit pricey thou......
    I talked to them about that at one point.
    Shipping should be better labeled as shipping and insurance.
    Still seems a bit high but given the overall cost I wouldn't want to drop the insurance on the shipment.

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    This thread has gone quiet, so I'm updating with my experience.

    I've had the 9point8 Pulse since December (snagged it when they had the Black Friday sale).

    For my riding style (aggressive and fast, but drops and jumps mostly limited to ~2-3 feet) and terrain (very rocky, ledgy, technically challenging, with a lot of short but steep climbs/descents), the Pulse is awesome. I'm a huge fan of the ability to drop in 5mm increments. It's super helpful if I just want to drop one or two clicks for a long rock garden, for example. Of course, it will drop all the way if I want it to.

    I've had a few different interactions with the 9point8 folks, and they've always been really helpful.

    After four months of 3-4 days/week riding, the post still works like new.

    If you're in the market for a dropper, it's really worth considering this one. I think it will last, and it's got a very versatile feature.
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    anyone used the new remote yet?
    how do you like it?
    expensive cars are a waste of money. Expensive bikes...not so much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tartosuc View Post
    anyone used the new remote yet?
    how do you like it?
    Yeah, I ordered one of the conversion kits to try it out, mostly due to curiosity.
    It works great. But, I think I got so used to the original trigger/lever, that I may switch back to it again.

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    I've been running mine pretty hard the past couple months.
    I have ZERO complaints.

    The stepping function is nice to have. I find myself either popping it a few times for a little more stability or racking it full down for a fast decent. Being able to repeat a fixed increment can be helpful.

    I am extremely happy with the post. The finger lever actuation works well and I've not grabbed it by mistake NOR grabbed the brake lever looking for the seat adjustment. I'm intrigued by the newer thumb lever but unless I'm board enough I just have to try it I'm probably going to stick to the finger lever.

    It does exactly what a remote seatpost is supposed to do. It keeps me on the bike with the seat where I need it at that moment without interrupting the flow by stopping to adjust a seatpost collar.

    Everyone who's seen the post has been pretty impressed with it. I have to admit I've only allowed short demonstration rides so far as I'm having too much fun on the bike to swap and let someone else have it for an hour or so when I could be riding it.

    I dealt with 9point8 quite a bit on this purchase both their customer service and engineering folks and I have nothing but good things to say about them.

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    so, what i gather is you'd be good with a mechanical post?

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    bump. My Thomson doesn't have enough set back. Reverbs didn't like me x 3. I kind of doubt a Giant would hold up under my weight. This leaves the Specialized post and my LBS is not a dealer. The Thomson is off 10mm which is not huge but significant. I'm also worried about the seat rails breaking since the seat is positioned all the way forward in the clamp. Any additional opinions, experiences?

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    You forgot kindshock. My i950 has been solid for 2yrs now...200lbs + gear.

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    Looks solid. Wish they made it in a 125

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    9point8 new dropper post???

    Quote Originally Posted by ncfisherman View Post
    You forgot kindshock. My i950 has been solid for 2yrs now...200lbs + gear.
    I heard KS customer service is lacking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDon View Post
    bump. My Thomson doesn't have enough set back. Reverbs didn't like me x 3. I kind of doubt a Giant would hold up under my weight. This leaves the Specialized post and my LBS is not a dealer. The Thomson is off 10mm which is not huge but significant. I'm also worried about the seat rails breaking since the seat is positioned all the way forward in the clamp. Any additional opinions, experiences?
    I'm kind of a broken record on this. But, I still am very happy with the 9point8. Lots of hard riding and heavy usage on it to-date. Customer service has been awesome when I've had questions, etc.

    I like the fixed-cable location feature of the KS ones, but they are tedious to install and service is indeed spotty.

    Wish 9.8 had fixed-cable option, but otherwise, I still am happy with it.

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    I would swear some of the posts here seems to be coming straight from the company marketing department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidworks View Post
    I would swear some of the posts here seems to be coming straight from the company marketing department.
    Yeah, yeah, I figured I was at risk of receiving that response.
    Not affiliated in any way. But, I did buy one of their posts, so I do have a vested interest in their success (I want them to be around for a while).
    I enjoy supporting some of these smaller component manufacturers that are popping up.
    People don't hesitate to bash companies for negative experiences (including myself, sometimes), so I think it's only fair to praise for positive ones as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidworks View Post
    I would swear some of the posts here seems to be coming straight from the company marketing department.
    LOL!
    If you knew the 9point8 "marketing department", you'd probably find this as funny as I do!

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    I subscribed to this thread way back when. I've just read today's installment (first time in ages!), and am VERY happy that the post can be converted to 25mm offset.

    I have a Spec Command Post, I run the lever on the LHS of my bars, and I don't find it easy/intuitive to engage when the lever is positioned such that it doesn't interfere with my front shifter.

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    9point8 new dropper post???

    Just ordered one. I have high hopes.


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    Updated post for 2015..
    and a new model with stealth routing...
    Press Release 9point8 New for 2015 - Reviews - Nine Point Eight Inc.

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    9point8 new dropper post???

    Quote Originally Posted by PuddleDuck View Post
    Updated post for 2015..
    and a new model with stealth routing...
    Press Release 9point8 New for 2015 - Reviews - Nine Point Eight Inc.
    Aaaaaagh? Mine just arrived.

    So far I like it. There is a little fore/ aft play. I do like the stepping action. Slight drops in height is nice in the chunder. I'm a big dude and tend to break things so we will see. I just took it off to preserve wear and because a 29er with a Supermax fork handles short straight ahead steeps well.

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    Those of you that got it on a black friday or cyber-monday sale in the past, were these sales directly by 9point8 or another retailer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hextall View Post
    Those of you that got it on a black friday or cyber-monday sale in the past, were these sales directly by 9point8 or another retailer?
    9point8 only sells the post direct from them.

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    How's the experience with the thumb actuator. A lot of online reviews bashed the early lever style. Has anyone used the 9point8 lever on other cable actuated posts?

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    The thumb thing is all about you mounting it where it suits you. I did not use the lever. I have no real issue with the thumb button, it works.

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    I like the thumb lever. Works well.

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    In response to the comment about a lot of these posts looking like the marketing department from 9point8: I don't know about the other posters I don't work for any bike or bike parts company.

    I haven't been posting on mtbr nearly as much in the past few years, got tired of the same newby questions, work required more attention, my bike was dialed in and I didn't really care what the latest and greatest Shimano or SRAM marketing BS happened to be, but I didn't hang around this board since 2004 and post 1500 times simply to hawk any product. Probably more of my most of my last 10 posts have been regarding this product but that's mostly because this and a set of vault pedals are about the only things I've bought in the past couple years other than a cassette, chain and chain ring set. It has been more fun to just go riding than to post about it and I sit in front of the computer too much as it is.

    Right after my comment on this thread last year I took a pretty good hit on the trail and managed to end up off the bike for a couple three months. No damage to the seatpost and it had no bearing in my crash I just managed to come down wrong after catching some air while going pretty darned fast. Much better to be buying a new helmet than a new head.

    Since I've been back on the bike the latter part of 2014 and first half of this year the post is still working flawless. I've run it through a couple nice long trails in addition to the weekly grind and have more planed for it.

    I've made a few comments about the customer service WRT correspondence with me while I was trying to make up my mind if this post was worth my time and money. My experience seems to be mirrored by other folks who've checked the company out. I'm still super happy with my experience. Can't tell you if they are still responding the same way now since I haven't talked with them in about a year.

    I would not hesitate to buy this post again. IF I were to replace my bike and I could I would transfer the post to the new bike even if I had to buy a new outer diameter tube to do it. (IF the bike were to get stolen then that'd be a problem OR if I couldn't get the right diameter outer post for the new bike although most of the newer bikes seem to be more standardized than in years gone by.)

    One of my buds got a new to him bike last weekend and I'm recommending he look hard at getting one of these posts if it will work with the bike geometry.

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    Just picked mine up today, hopefully get it on the bike tomorrow

    150mm - 30.9

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    Matt, how's the Fall Line treating you?

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    DropLoc tech

    Just read that the new RaceFace/Easton dropper post licenses 9point8 technology...

    "The post is a cable actuated affair, and uses internals that are based on technology licensed from 9point8, the small Canadian company who debuted their Fall Line dropper post last spring."

    First Look: Race Face Turbine / Easton Haven Dropper Post - Pinkbike

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWnSWCO View Post
    Just read that the new RaceFace/Easton dropper post licenses 9point8 technology...

    "The post is a cable actuated affair, and uses internals that are based on technology licensed from 9point8, the small Canadian company who debuted their Fall Line dropper post last spring."

    First Look: Race Face Turbine / Easton Haven Dropper Post - Pinkbike
    I saw that too. That's about all the endorsement you could ever need!

    Plus RF/Easton added $100 to the price. I'll stick with 9point8!

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    Just got one today for my HD3. Good customer service and fast delivery.

    "update"

    Got a few rides in and I can now say this is the best post I have owned. I have been thru several Reverb "that failed" and a couple LEV interga's that worked fine. This post has very good engineering, it is easy to install and service, has many setup options, very smooth operation and has 0 play that every other post I have owned has had. If it stays reliable I am going to be very happy.
    Last edited by Rom3n; 08-27-2015 at 10:16 AM.

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    this is my next post - on order!

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    Well, I posted here a while back, and after my third Reverb failure, I decided to sell the replacement they gave me and get the Fall Line. It means drilling a hole in my frame, but at this point, it's worth it to me. i wanted the stepping features but after emailing the company they said it could be a while before any stock arrives. I'll post up a review once I have a few rides in.

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    Well - post came in and now installed - broke a bone in my hand so been off the bike for 2 weeks since incident so waiting on this to be installed - no big deal. Will ride this weekend and post up and initial ride review, but this thing is a real work. solid, tight, great machining and smooth as! can't wait and hope/anticipate this is the one.

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    Does anyone have any hint of what's going on with this post? The have been out of stock and it seems they don't know when they will be available again...maybe a long time. Seems beyond strange for a company that manufactures the product. When they licensed the design to other companies did they give up their plans to produce it ? 💰 Anybody having any problems with some time on the post or is everything peachy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loopsb View Post
    Does anyone have any hint of what's going on with this post? The have been out of stock and it seems they don't know when they will be available again...maybe a long time. Seems beyond strange for a company that manufactures the product. When they licensed the design to other companies did they give up their plans to produce it ? 💰 Anybody having any problems with some time on the post or is everything peachy?
    Still love mine. Original Pulse going strong since December 2013.
    Going to get a Fall Line for my next bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loopsb View Post
    Does anyone have any hint of what's going on with this post? The have been out of stock and it seems they don't know when they will be available again...maybe a long time. Seems beyond strange for a company that manufactures the product. When they licensed the design to other companies did they give up their plans to produce it ? 💰 Anybody having any problems with some time on the post or is everything peachy?
    Are you referring to Pulse or Fall Line?
    Here is the low down on both:
    For Fall Line, at times demand outstrips capacity and we show it as out of stock on the web site for the sizes we cannot provide promptly. If you see this and want to order, contact customer service and they can let you know the expected lead time for the spec you are after and put you on the waiting list.
    For Pulse, unfortunately we have made Fall Line our current priority and is consuming all our resources to keep up with demand. We are trying to remedy this, but do not have a timeline on when this will happen.

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    Damn, for $499 the post better read my mind and weigh nothing....
    "This is a male-dominated forum... there will be lots of Testosterone sword-shaming here" ~ Kenfucius

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    I believe that this thread was originally about the Pulse, somebody recently injected the Fall Line into it and it merged a bit.That's the one I was referring to, wanted a hydraulic post and drank the Kool- Aid about " Stepping is Better...It Just Is"

    Guess it really wasn't

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