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    I might have to try them both. Cold hands and feet is an ongoing issue. I've got a pair of neoprene socks but they are currently misplaced. I liked the space blanket idea because it gives some added warmth with little added thickness.

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    I have been wearing these:

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    Around here, keeping your dry is just as important as keeping them warm. Typically the coldest temps I will see are the mid-20's. I wear these covers over my regular, lightweight riding shoes and a pair of lightweight smartwool socks. My commute takes just over an hour and my feet stay warm and dry. The cover acts a like a windbreaker and you get a nice warm layer of air inside heated by your foot.

    I just snipped a hole in the bottom for my cleat. They are very easy to put on/take off. And they have reflective striping built in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbxplorer View Post
    Welcome, jmctav, hope you have a good ride, that's cold. Where are you located?
    I'm currently living in Minsk, Belarus. Just got in from the ride home at -2 F, it wasn't too bad since it's a rather short ride the hardest part is the first ten minutes getting warmed up. Last week I decided not to ride a few days and took buses to work but I got so much colder standing and waiting at the bus stop that I realized riding is actually the warmer (and quicker) option.

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    Looking at buying some Lake MXZ302 boots for fat biking and commuting this week. Lately I've been using SmartWool or Icebreaker wool liner socks (over the calf length) covered by either Rocky Gore-tex socks or Sealskinz socks, then stuffing my feet into a size and a half too big Shimano MTB boot. I cover that with an MEC shoe cover to keep the wet off

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    As for hands, I've been using these pogies from MEC on my fatbike. I may get some BarMitz drop bar model pogies for my commuter next.

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    ^ you're able to get those MEC pogies to work? I bought them last year but returned them because they were just too small (I'm the 2nd negative review on there ). The main thing was that there was no way I was going to be able to use hand signals, but also if it's -20C I really want to be able to wear a full-sized glove. I'm glad that people in Ottawa and Montreal have actually gotten them to work, though.

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    Tough ride. SSW wind 15-25 mph with around building gusts above that. Fortunately only rode into it briefly. But yesterday was worse with gusts in excess of 45 mph blowing my car around. Too windy for me.. A balmy 50 F for the last day in January. Amazing how warm that feels after 10 F, but freezing come June. I haven't put the studded tires on yet and may not. Banana Belt at the moment.

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    Snow !!!

    It was so sketchy this evening I had a hard time keeping up my line and a little 2.5km got my hands so stress out by having to always counter-steer my thumbs were hurting bad, like when you're hands are frozen and you feel like someone just mash your fingers with a hammer... Intense
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    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    Changing a tube when you can't feel your hands sucks donkey balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbigisbudgood View Post
    Changing a tube when you can't feel your hands sucks donkey balls.
    I believe you and I hope I never experience that particular pleasure. That`s the main reason I seldom mount my foofoo tirres in the winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbigisbudgood View Post
    Changing a tube when you can't feel your hands sucks donkey balls.
    Uggh! I have wondered if I could even do that. I have not gotten many flats in winter and was lucky enough either to be near the spot where the bus line starts or my driveway. I think I'll throw a lighter pair of gloves in the pack that might help reduce the suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbigisbudgood View Post
    Changing a tube when you can't feel your hands sucks donkey balls.
    Oh, because the tires are salty because of the road and the balls.....nevermind.

    Yeah, I've never had the pleasure of; well, either. I put self sealing tubes in the tires I run in the shoulder seasons and the Nokian tires have treads like car tires so there pretty tough.

    The trails around me are impassable. About 3" of snow over 2" of snow with a crust in-between. Not enough snow to cover all the rocks so the snowmobiles haven't been out.

    I took the truck today because the trails are crap, the roads are sloppy and my legs are spent from about 100 in the last 4 days from when the trails were good. I needed a rest day but wouldn't commit until the weather made me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbigisbudgood View Post
    Changing a tube when you can't feel your hands sucks donkey balls.
    Been there, done that, hope I never have to do it again.

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    ^^ I had to do one a couple years ago in the mid 'teens. You feel like you're stuck on Everest, and if you could just get the stove lit to heat up some water you might be able to survive, but your blackened stumps of frostbitten fingers won't allow you to turn the fuel knob or flick the lighter. and then you drop the tire levers in the snow again...

    A horrible experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbigisbudgood View Post
    Changing a tube when you can't feel your hands sucks donkey balls.

    That's why I HTFU and put the Slime X5 thicker inner tubes in my Winter studded tires. Talk about lead weights !!

    13lbs between the two wheel/tires combo's but I wouldn't have to deal with another flat in the dead of Winter.
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    It's winter...

    ...why won't it stop raining? 40F and rained most of the day..seemed to let up when I got ready to leave, but of course was pouring by the time I changed and left work. So I took the road...on the 2 mile downhill, the fatbike paddled through the wave crests with nice sound effects as I passed through them (seriously, waves were running down the pavement). Consequently felt just a bit chilly despite the temps. It let up at about 4 miles (halfway), just in time for the headwind to pick up. 32F now, so the trails may firm up OK -or be totally melted - by morning.

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    ...Why won't it stop snowing just enough to keep the trails impassable but not enough to get the snowmobiles out on to to pack it down? 3", cold day, warm day, 3", cold day, warm day...

    Alright, it's not that bad but I got a taste of the trails this winter and it's hard to go back to the road.

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    Rode the Nickel in today as I wanted the big floaty tires, it has Nokain 294's mounted for when I can get out on the icy trails. Supposedly we are going to have some kind of snowpocalypse today with this Siberian system moving across the Baltic, picking up moisture and essentially acting like a snow cannon over Sweden.

    Whatever, this Chicago native ain't scared.

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    No flats, no donkey balls?
    No wonder you ain`t scared- you`ve already seen worse this week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbigisbudgood View Post
    Supposedly we are going to have some kind of snowpocalypse today with this Siberian system moving across the Baltic, picking up moisture and essentially acting like a snow cannon over Sweden.

    Whatever, this Chicago native ain't scared.
    Please take that Siberian high pressure system of frigid air off of us here in eastern Europe!! At first it was a bit of a novelty seeing how cold I could still physically be able to ride to work, but after a solid week of single digit F or below temps for the HIGH on sunny days, it has somehow lost it's charm. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

    Funny things I noticed while commuting in really f'in cold weather:
    -Cable locks become a giant pain in the azz to attach to anything and then to re-wrap around the frame after locking the bike outside.
    -Having a nice cushy gel seat becomes riding on a brick of ice
    -Inflation doesn't really matter that much because your tires are so stiff
    -Brake/shifter cables can get stiff enough to slightly impede the turning of your handlebars
    -Warm up before you go outside to get on the bike, make sure you've got lots of warm blood circulated to your hands and feet so they don't freeze right away

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    Lots of stuff


    Got the Fisty in "winter mode" been a very mild winter this year, hardly any snow but we have much more ice this year due to thawing and refreezing constantly.


    And for such ice I got a set of Nokian w106 45c tires today for a really good price (buy one get one half off plus 10% off)


    Made some shoe covers to see how they fair, I tried duct tape but it just peeled off. I will probably cave and just get shoe covers. These Sette shoes are only used in winter, anyone know of a bootie cover that zips up on the front so I can get at the cinch? I did duct tape under the sole to keep my feet a bit warmer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmctav23 View Post
    Please take that Siberian high pressure system of frigid air off of us here in eastern Europe!! ...
    -Having a nice cushy gel seat becomes riding on a brick of ice
    Gee, I thought mine felt like a 2x4, and that is suddenly sounding a lot more comfy than your block of ice.

    I heard a news story about all the people (150?) who died in the cold snap, sorry to hear.

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    Well tomorrow might be the (first) epic day of the year. It's been snowing a bit last week, then warmed up and then all freeze over the last 2 days. Today was about -6C, very sunny and not much wind. Tomorrow will be around -4C and a bit less wind, plus same or more sunny hours.

    Streets are dries, trails are frozen, my brother is off too and I have a nice bike all super clean waiting in the basement. We should hit the mountain right after lunch, and own the trails by 2pm.
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    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    Have fun, David. That sounds a lot better than waiting in the hallway to renew your drivers license

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    Yup, 7:30 and I'm up already, going to play CoD World at War to wake my brain up

    Then let's go !
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    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    Our short, warm, low-snow winter may be over already. 60F today, enough to convince me to take the studs off the 26'r and mount the summer tires. Hoping mud season will be short as well.

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    The deep freeze has finally left us as well, I had my first ride to work in shorts yesterday and it felt amazing. Now we just need a few more sunny and windy days to dry out the trails.

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    My studs came off yesterday. Not a total commitment because I have a different set of wheels for them but I don't expect them to go back on...But who knows. 70 forecast for Monday!!!

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    I still have the studded tires on my FS but I have the HT 69'er ready to go.

    It's been between mid 40's to upper 50's here.
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    Winter Whining

    [whining on]
    I am sick of:
    Taking an extra 10 min to layer up
    Tearing eyes
    Salt spots on the inside of my glasses from my ^^
    2 pairs of gloves
    Forecasts for 48 degrees and temps that only reach 35 degrees
    My face mask
    Nose faucet
    Snot streaks on my gloves from my ^^
    2 pairs of socks
    15mph winds
    cold sweaty clothes
    [/whining off]

    OK, I'm ready for spring

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    Yes.
    You have no excuse for driving to work
    (unless you don't have studded tires)
    (no excuse for that either)

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    Last night I swapped my tubeless studded tires over to my tubeless ardents. This is probably the dozenth time that I've done a tubeless setup, it went just about as well as it possibly could, and it still took me 1 1/2 hours. Tubes would have taken me maybe 15 minutes? I like running tubeless, but I've got to get quicker at this.

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    Seriously?

    Normal high is around 53, the forecast high is 45 and the actual mid afternoon temp is 39.
    Wind is forecast to be 4 and it's blowing 25.
    Same thing ever day this week.
    OK, I'm going to stop.

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    Lesson Learned

    I had been riding all winter in temps as low as -5F. I figured I had gotten used to the cold. So in Mid-January when the thermometer read 13F it was warmer than it had been in weeks. I figured I had gotten so acclimated to the cold that I could leave my lobster claws at home and go with the windproof felt mid-weight gloves.

    What you learn being that stupid:
    * Early stage frostbite is quite painful.
    * Your hands can get so cold that you are unable to shift.
    * When you cannot feel your fingers, you have no idea how hard you are gripping the brakes.
    * On a bike, you cannot put your hands in your pockets to warm them.
    * Riding at 40mph, windchill is significant - even if the gloves claim to be windproof.
    * The first 30 minutes of thawing fingers is roughly 3X more painful than freezing them.
    * Being slightly too warm is preferable to being completely frozen.
    * If it is below freezing, always wear your 'lobster claw' gloves, Idiot.

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    You can ride at 40mph? No wonder your hands were cold.
    You have no excuse for driving to work
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    I have a monster downhill. I can crank it up to 45+mph when conditions are good (installed larger chainrings and areobars to get that speed), but that day it was just too painful.

    Naturally, I don't go so fast heading up that mountain in the afternoon.

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    Monster downhill is always nicer than a monster climb. Your profile says Reno, NV. What hill are you on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodar y rodar View Post
    Monster downhill is always nicer than a monster climb. Your profile says Reno, NV. What hill are you on?
    Fellow Renoite, eh?

    My commute is from Lemmon Valley to the South Meadows. ~20 miles one-way.

    The big hill is on Old 395/N Virgina Starting at Raleigh Heights and ending around UNR. I reach top speed (or lowest speed - depending on direction) right around the Bonanza Casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2y2 View Post
    Fellow Renoite, eh?
    Not really Reno. Actually, I live a little bit north of Reno in Lemmon Valley

    Fastest part is near Bonanza? I always get faster (or lower, depending) between the Raleigh Heights 7-eleven and the Virginia/Panther Valley signal. Ever ride into Sun Valley from GV or over Dandini? Those get me even faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodar y rodar View Post
    Not really Reno. Actually, I live a little bit north of Reno in Lemmon Valley

    Fastest part is near Bonanza? I always get faster (or lower, depending) between the Raleigh Heights 7-eleven and the Virginia/Panther Valley signal. Ever ride into Sun Valley from GV or over Dandini? Those get me even faster.
    Wow, didn't think I'd meet a neighbor on this forum.

    No, I've never ridden over 7th or Dandini, it would take me too far out of my way. Perhaps someday, I'll try it.

    I could get going faster just below the 7-11, but since the limit is 35mph, I keep it at that speed (I try to obey all the laws). On N Virginia the speed limit is 50-40mph, so I can open it up. I cruise at 40 until it takes the dip just south of Parr, then I can get it over 45, if the wind is calm.

    So, how often do you bike commute and where is your work?

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    ^Check your PMs, n2y2. I don`t mind diverting a thread for a while, but this might get long

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    I've been struggling to ride every day, the cold of our late winter is getting to me. The weather is looking better but these Sunny and warm days with snow and ice in the evening are really messing with my ability to prepare for the ride home after a long day of work. I didn't ride today or yesterday but I'm thinking about riding tomorrow. I'm in Klamath Falls, OR so the winter is still kicking into mid spring.

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    Hang in there, do what you can do. Spring IS on the way.

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    I don't know what was with the weather today, it was a nasty slush snow all morning and then a nice sunny warm afternoon but now at the time I would be riding home the wind is blowing and the temp is dropping like a rock. I think I'm going to take a few more days off riding and see if the weather gets better next week. I don't mind the snow or just some rain but a nasty heavy mix is just miserable.

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    Commute weather should be here next month. At the moment, it's below my commute temp threshold in the morning but just barely above it in the afternoon so I could presumably commute but I don't (it's too damned cold here in Germania for this Californian, LOL!). 50 deg farenheit is my cut off point for commuting. I'm not a cold weather person.
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    I'm happy when it's above 32F. What I can't handle is the 20-30 MPH winds and random slush showers we've had. Here's a fun fact... there's 3 inches of snow on the ground this morning, yesterday the weather said 50% chance of rain.

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    No idea who to credit for this, but it looked like a good way to re-start the thread....
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    Nice snowman! Only a light dusting a couple of weeks ago so far in Cincinnati. My unbroken commuting run (since May 2011) is still good. I have just 18 more work days this year and it's good into 2013. As long as there's no ice....

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    I have to wonder how long that snowman stood out there before his bike was stolen right out from under him. Or though him, more accurately.
    Recalculating....

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    Can't believe I got studs this year and I haven't been posting in this thread yet.

    Let's do this.
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    ^^ You need the T shirt: "Got Studs" and the singular version for the Mrs, of course.

    Glad you did. My flatlander existence is alleviated by your posts. It snowed here enough for a thin dusting Tuesday morning but was melted before I was functional.

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    Studded tires are on the way. This is my first winter commuting full-time, pretty pumped about it! May need to tap in to this thread's motivational abilities from time to time, though...

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    It's only November and I'm already sick of the extra time it takes to layer up and layer down. This could be a long cold winter.

    You'll love the studs Danimal. You'll be looking for the ice. "Just to try them out"

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    I've been waiting for this thread to pop back up. This will also be my first winter commuting so I'll need motivation from everyone.

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    In case your bike gets a chill...
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    I'm fitting my son for his cold-weather season riding with me:


    1) Ordering/mounting studded tires on my son's Cannondale in a couple of weeks.

    2) Ordered a Topeak front and rear fenders for his bike.

    3) Winter bib and jersey/jacket. Check

    4) Castelli Windstopper balaclava. Check

    5) Platform pedals goes on as well.



    He's excited being this is his first Fall/Winter riding with me !
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    Snot rockets check 'em and seee!
    Ah got my thermal layers, one two and threee!
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    Lately we've been getting a bit of wind here in Seattle. They recorded some gusts in my area around the 70 mph mark, which might explain why I was 160 bpm @ 9 mph. It was also pouring with rain.

    Then this happened:

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    If there's one good thing about NOVA weather, I guess it's that we don't get either extreme. It rarely gets over 100 or below about 20. In Jan-Feb I do usually miss a couple days though because it just isn't safe to ride if the streets are icy -- more because of the drivers than the streets themselves.
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    So sick of messing with booties and still having wet feet and ankles.

    Really, I'm sick of having an extra step in going out to ride and coming back in from it _period_. Am I alone in wanting a Sorel Glacier-style clipless boot that is really a boot rarher than just a high-top shoe?

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    ^^I made the jump to winter boots this year and have been pretty happy about it. Ergo Grip. You get what you pay for and I only paid $89 so they aren't the best but a lot better than messing with booties. Back country runs 50% off sometimes. I would NOT pay the full $179 for them.

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    ^^ What kills me in this department is being unable to find rain pants that are long enough to cover the tops of my winter boots that aren't really boots but just high-top shoes (same shoes as bedwards). the shoes are great and waterproof, but apparently no one who makes rain pants has ever seen a human with normal sized legs. I get a gap/wet ankles, and then water runs down inside the boots, even though they seal up pretty tight around the ankle.
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    ^^I'm pretty sure my showers pass storm pants are long enough. My Descente Shelter tights are long enough to zip outside the boots so the water at least wicks out, not in. I have long, 34" inseam, legs.

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    ^^ Thinking outside the box. I don't have the issue, and I don't have arm warmers, but it arm warmers are waterproof, can they cover the top of the shoe and up the leg like flashing on a roof with the pant leg over them? Sort of the overlapping shingle concept, only tubular-leg shaped.

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    BrianMc, it seems like it would work fine for the ride, but that's still one more step in a process of suiting-up and de-suiting, and one more thing to have hanging to dry and hoping will actually be comfortably dry after work/school for the ride home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    ^^ What kills me in this department is being unable to find rain pants that are long enough to cover the tops of my winter boots that aren't really boots but just high-top shoes (same shoes as bedwards). the shoes are great and waterproof, but apparently no one who makes rain pants has ever seen a human with normal sized legs. I get a gap/wet ankles, and then water runs down inside the boots, even though they seal up pretty tight around the ankle.
    My cycling tights are just the right length to cover the anklet, on to p of my winter boots...nice snug fit....

    It is quite a sensation to ride through an icy puddle ...feel the force of the water splashing up, but neither the cold nor the wet.

    If you are wearing full non breathable rain gear that should work just fine underneath.

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    I have thought about using gaiters...but I don't want to have more stuff to put on!! I do have some tights that would probably work for the shingle layer thing. I just really want rain pants that are long enough. Seems like they should be out there. I have thought about modifying a pair of rain pants with some sort of strap or loop that would hook them around the bottom of my shoe, to keep them from riding up...if I could find some long enough. I just need to try some on. Sitting and Pedaling make pants that seem plenty long turn out to be really short when you're actually using them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    I have thought about using gaiters...but I don't want to have more stuff to put on!! I do have some tights that would probably work for the shingle layer thing. I just really want rain pants that are long enough. Seems like they should be out there. I have thought about modifying a pair of rain pants with some sort of strap or loop that would hook them around the bottom of my shoe, to keep them from riding up...if I could find some long enough. I just need to try some on. Sitting and Pedaling make pants that seem plenty long turn out to be really short when you're actually using them.
    You sure like to complicate things...

    If you can't find and buy a pair of rain pants long enough....well that is on you.

    If they dont' have a cuff that will seal to the boot top.....well that is on you.

    Cause the solution is sitting right under your nose.

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    ^^ My upper lip will not help with this.

    I should also mention that I'm riding with leg warmers that are also too short to cover this gap or do the overlap thing with the top of the boot... maybe I have freakishly long legs..except I don't.

    I use shorts/leg warmers under the rain pants for easy laundry... I can go a long time between leg warmer washings, and can swap the shorts out every couple days... I only have one pair of nice winter tights. Maybe I need a few more pairs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    I should also mention that I'm riding with leg warmers that are also too short to cover this gap or do the overlap thing with the top of the boot... maybe I have freakishly long legs..except I don't.

    I use shorts/leg warmers under the rain pants for easy laundry... I can go a long time between leg warmer washings, and can swap the shorts out every couple days... I only have one pair of nice winter tights. Maybe I need a few more pairs...
    Good thought

    I have at least four pairs, two are mediums, two a large...

    I use the small ones normally, but when it gets cold I will put one of the large on over top of the medium...

    I can also use the large singly they are just a littl baggier than tighter.

    The large ones are very wind and water proof front and back...

    The mediums are very wind and water proof front only....back is very breathable...

    Seems to work out for me...I don't bother with rain pants much though.

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    I'll put them on my Christmas list.

    My situation is also complicated by the fact that I'm a teacher, and I can't ride across campus in tights... My students just aren't mature enough to handle that. I want some of the windproof front/breatheable back tights, but I'd still have to wear baggies over them or it would be impossible to teach the next day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    I'll put them on my Christmas list.

    My situation is also complicated by the fact that I'm a teacher, and I can't ride across campus in tights... My students just aren't mature enough to handle that. I want some of the windproof front/breatheable back tights, but I'd still have to wear baggies over them or it would be impossible to teach the next day.
    If they have time to laugh, they have time to do extra homework. Show them that men in tights always have the last laugh.
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    That's not the problem... It's the 20 minute conversation that would take up most of the period the next day that I just don't want to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    That's not the problem... It's the 20 minute conversation that would take up most of the period the next day that I just don't want to deal with.
    20 minutes once a year????

    lets see some 180 days at 6 hours per day...

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    I wish... more like 20 minutes per period (7 period days), on the day following every day I was spotted on campus (or in public at all, really) in bike dork clothes. The awesome thing about immaturity is that something like that just never gets old.

    And it's 181 days, thankyouverymuch.

    But no big deal to throw baggies on... what I need is either some really long rain paints, really long leg warmers, or a few more pairs of tights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    And it's 181 days, thankyouverymuch.
    Huh? How many days in your year? We only get 365 here, so your 181 "on" days plus the 320 "off" days you get sounds like about a year and a half anywhere else

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    Just thought I'd drop a 'HI' on this thread. As of about a month ago I have started commuting to work 3 days a week. Since I'm at 42 degrees North latitude this means that it's getting cold and I'm just starting to commute. I figure that if I can make it through the winter, I'll be ready for anything!

    Now I will have a nice bike to commute on; I started off on my POS Mongoose bike that I got in college over a decade ago. Now I've got a nice new big dummy; but I'm dreaming of a cross check.

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    So has anyone ever tried just using a respirator mask with the filters removed? All I can find online are lunatics trying to filter out air pollution while riding. I can only assume they live in a hermetically sealed house. 3M Half Facepiece Reusable Respirator 7503/37083(AAD), Respiratory Protection, Large: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific has a downward air discharge, so your hot, humid breath is directed down and away from your glasses/goggles. Heck, you could remove the flappers from the one-way valves entirely for better air movement, though this would mean the mask is no longer useful as a filter.

    Anything fabric tends to waterlog from the humidity and then I can't easily breathe through it. I've been trying to use my other weird mask but it's more or less hopeless to wear eye protection with it as the seal at the nose is pretty bad. I can't go without anything because asthma doesn't respond well to cold air.

    The 6300DD appears to maybe also offer the downward-exhaust and is cheap enough that it might be worth it to just order one and try it out.

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    CommuterBoy: rejoice. Tight nylon face, stretch back, and don't look/fit like tights, but are narrow enough to not get sucked into the chain.

    You can probably find them cheaper, but that was the easiest link for me to find.

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    ^^ Something like that would be cool. I do like the fit of tights though. And honestly when I wear them mountain biking, I wear baggies over them anyway...not because I'm worried I'm going to see students, but because I just don't want to do that to people

    Rodar, your math looks fine to me?


    But Bedwards, I need hooker boot advice... This morning was a good day to experiment because it was raining pretty good... I wore the tights under my rain pants, and overlapped the tights over the tops of the boots as suggested... plenty of overlap there, no worries. I was wearing short socks (nowhere near the top edge of the boots, so the boots are touching bare skin at the top couple inches)
    By the time I got to work:

    Bottom few inches of the tights: Wring-them-out wet (expected this)
    Socks: Wet. Obviously getting wet from the top down, but pretty wet all over. (???)
    Inside of boots: Wet (not as wet as the socks, but wet).
    Spare socks in waterproof trashbag in backpack with shirt and underwear: yes.

    But how is that much water getting in those boots with the overlap thing going on? I was expecting much better results.
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    I just think that when it is raining and you are on your bike, you are going to get wet...no two ways around it. Even the best rain gear will get wet eventually. Neoprene booties won't be stretching over boots, but they do a good job for me in the snow and slush keeping pretty dry in clipless shoes or running shoes.

    One more option is gaiters. I have shorties for summer hiking, and knee high for deep snow. If you are unfamiliar, they strap under boot, clip on at toe, and cover the gap between pants and boot. Rookies wear them over the pants and it is just one more thing to look silly on campus with. Wear them under the pants, it is more effective at keeping out the rain.

    I am looking forward to my first winter of dedicated commuting here in the great north woods of NH. I have my SS track bike, Ute cargo bike, and hard tail 29 (with studded wheel set if needed), though it won't be because I also got my Necromancer this week. If none of those will cut it, I guess I could drive my car...

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    Hey Schott, add yourself to the MTBR Commuters map. We need some more New Englanders. Sounds like a fine assortment of bikes to get you through.

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    CommuterBoy sounds like a personal/fashion problem, if they want to make fun of your tights just remind them that Robin Hood wore tights. And then point out all the ones wearing skinny pants.


    So any one else have problems with the cold just sapping any and all energy? It seems I have to work harder to go the same distance when it's below 45.

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    Men of nobility wore higher quality, less coarse tights for practicality reasons (horseback riding) in old England; if we had shown them what we wear today, they would have thought us exceedingly rich. And if you google "Meggings", there is a push from the fashion industry to make them more mainstream in more recent days. Jeans and the like historically were also associated with the working class until more recently. Side note... but men wore heels back in the day too, also for practicality reasons.

    RE: cold sapping any and all energy, only if the wind cuts through my gear or I'm really, really underdressed over my legs and core. I have some neoprene front, breathing back pants that keep my legs warm, and wear a sturdy though not thermal jacket. I have found that if I keep my core and upper legs warm, even if I don't keep my lower legs or arms warm, I don't have the, "OMG I'm exhausted" feeling. I do have to work harder simply by virtue of blocking more wind & the clothing resisting my movement though - there's always a noticeable speed gain come March when I ditch the heavy duty clothing.

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    You guys are forgetting the fact that I'm the definition of awesome, and I don't care what anyone thinks because I know I'm the man

    I simply wear baggies over the tights so that the punk kids have less to talk about. Saves class time.
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    Student: Why do you wear tights?
    Teacher: Because I can, why do you wear your girl friends skinny jeans? Now moving on. Who can tell me what yesterdays main points of discussion were?

    Its only a drawn out discussion if you let it become one.


    Not sure if it's all that, I only wear a lightweight jacket, gloves, and beanie cap. Anything more and I end up overheating until it gets down to low 30s. Thinking it might have to do with how hard it is for me to breath though when it gets that cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightlost View Post
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    Not sure if it's all that, I only wear a lightweight jacket, gloves, and beanie cap. Anything more and I end up overheating until it gets down to low 30s.
    What, no pants or tights? Now that will be a discussion.

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    last time i drove from school was after i got back from a race and it was raining, i couldnt bend over because my back was messed up, and I had a 50 gallon tupperware full of gear and crap that I didnt feel like hauling on my xtracycle along with towing my mtb. I have ridden every day this winter though . Here in CO it is unusual to get below 10 degrees F, and the snow is usually dry, with the convienience of having the bike path that occasionaly gets plowed also. I usually just rock the addidas, oakley radars, courderouys, a balaclava, a shell with some sort of down layer, and some insulated work gloves. I am usually comfortable. If the bike path is cleared (or there isnt alot of snow and I have to carry a bunch of stuff), Ill ride my Xtracycle, and If there is a bunch of snow and i dont need to carry much I will ride my singlespeed "half-fat." When I go skiing i just wear my ski helmet, pants and jacket (all shells, no insulation).




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    Let`s see more of that "half fat", Cormy. It`s a standard HT frame with fat fork and front wheel? And a mile worth of seat post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbxplorer View Post
    What, no pants or tights? Now that will be a discussion.
    Well jeans/cargo pants, lol, was just listing the colder weather garb. I don't wear tights, but I do have some thermal ones for if it gets down to the 20s (highly doubtful)

    Although I'm not sure my nethers would enjoy the freeballing that much.



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    Blech. I need this thread today. 7 degrees (F) this morning, That's up 12 degrees from Monday's low of -4. Actually -4.5. There is snow falling this morning...I think that's the coldest I've ever seen it snow. Very rare for us in these parts to have snow when it's down below the mid 20's. Snow means clouds though, and clouds mean that there must be a warm air mass somewhere... right? The week before this was the same. The snow we got at Christmas is still here. This is getting old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    Blech. I need this thread today. 7 degrees (F) this morning, That's up 12 degrees from Monday's low of -4. Actually -4.5. There is snow falling this morning...I think that's the coldest I've ever seen it snow. Very rare for us in these parts to have snow when it's down below the mid 20's. Snow means clouds though, and clouds mean that there must be a warm air mass somewhere... right? The week before this was the same. The snow we got at Christmas is still here. This is getting old.
    WE had a low in the pacific pumping warm air south down the eastern slopes of the Rockies temps up to 8C....

    The forecast had a cold snap down to -20C for one day then the chinook flow would take over with highs up to 8C....

    Looks like the cold snap might not happen...

    about 10 inches of snow have melted this week, roads not quite bare yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    Blech. I need this thread today. 7 degrees (F) this morning, That's up 12 degrees from Monday's low of -4. Actually -4.5. There is snow falling this morning...I think that's the coldest I've ever seen it snow. Very rare for us in these parts to have snow when it's down below the mid 20's. Snow means clouds though, and clouds mean that there must be a warm air mass somewhere... right? The week before this was the same. The snow we got at Christmas is still here. This is getting old.
    Hang in there CB! I hear you, 5F here which is about 10 degrees below comfortable for me. How are the hooker boots doing? I find them to be not that warm. Stupid design where the toes (the part that gets coldest) is a single layer of molded plastic. Otherwise they're not too bad. I'm riding my commuter with flat pedals so I'm wearing Hermon Survivors and my feet were pretty comfy this morning.

    Chin up, we'll be complaining about the heat in no time.

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    Too cold for me there. I'm complaining about 25F, I'd have to see how my sinuses react to those lows.

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    -8 F here this morning, and slow going, which meant my feet had enough time to get cold even in the Keen insulated boots. Everything else was warm. The goggles were not as perfect this time, some icing crept in at the top, and I took them off after the 2mi+ downhill where its coldest. A little warmup is expected this weekend, and then a high of 10F on the next commute day, Tuesday. Nice light this morning...
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    Right there with you on the hooker boots Bedwards... they're good to go down to the upper teens. At these temps I'm wearing my neoprene socks with them and the toes are still numb upon arrival. They're warmer than the mtb shoes with toe covers though...

    Sweet, now we have a 'freezing fog advisory'. At least there's a little diversity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    Right there with you on the hooker boots Bedwards... they're good to go down to the upper teens. At these temps I'm wearing my neoprene socks with them and the toes are still numb upon arrival. They're warmer than the mtb shoes with toe covers though...

    Sweet, now we have a 'freezing fog advisory'. At least there's a little diversity.
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    I know, I know. But the hooker boots were like $60 after all the discounts they were running.
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