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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    Blech. I need this thread today. 7 degrees (F) this morning, That's up 12 degrees from Monday's low of -4. Actually -4.5.

    The snow we got at Christmas is still here. This is getting old.
    I feel for you, CB. It sounds like you`ve been getting colder than we have lately. Well, usually the case anyway, but more so the past week or two. I get off easy to an extent because I don`t have an early AM comute any more. I don`t know what snow has been here since Christmas, what`s from New Years, or what blew in from you last week! Do you go by ID records on individual crystals?
    Anyway, hold tight just a little bit longer and one of your abundant vacations is sure to save you soon!
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    We made a big snowman at Christmas with the kids, and he hasn't shrunk... in fact, he's gotten bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    I know, I know. But the hooker boots were like $60 after all the discounts they were running.
    Ahhh then here is a great bike for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    We made a big snowman at Christmas with the kids, and he hasn't shrunk... in fact, he's gotten bigger.
    But now he`s in drag...
    wearing a skirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffscott View Post
    Ahhh then here is a great bike for you

    29" Mongoose Mens Mountain Bike - Walmart.com
    That analogy would make sense if the bike was on sale for $70.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    That analogy would make sense if the bike was on sale for $70.
    Geez I always thought bike cost more than the bike shoes????

    Mine do.

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    Now you're confusing yourself Have a good weekend jeffscott.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    Blech. I need this thread today. 7 degrees (F) this morning, That's up 12 degrees from Monday's low of -4. Actually -4.5. There is snow falling this morning...I think that's the coldest I've ever seen it snow. Very rare for us in these parts to have snow when it's down below the mid 20's. Snow means clouds though, and clouds mean that there must be a warm air mass somewhere... right? The week before this was the same. The snow we got at Christmas is still here. This is getting old.
    Yesterday morning it was 2*F .


    For me, 20*F down to -11*F feels the same. I don't put any more layers on for the temperature difference.


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    Saw a bunch of snow rollers in the fields today. Being white on white, my pics did not show them as well as these submitted to the local newschannel. Anybody else get these? You need a good wind and the right kind of snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbxplorer View Post
    Saw a bunch of snow rollers in the fields today. Being white on white, my pics did not show them as well as these submitted to the local newschannel. Anybody else get these? You need a good wind and the right kind of snow.
    That's crazy! I've never seen that, but I bet it is cool to see.

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    Snow rollers?! Mind blown! Cool pic mtb, thanks for sharing.

    Wind chill is currently at -31F, should dip down to -40F by my commute tomorrow. I'm tempted to ride just to say I did. I think my gear will be adequate. The plan is to get up early and leave 10 minutes earlier than normal. If its brutal I'll simply turn around and take the car. I'll post the results tomorrow!
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    I have seen them. Small ones several times. The bigger ones twice and though the guys get cold on a bike, I have never seen ice balls:

    Ice balls and snow rollers

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    Wind chill is currently at -31F, should dip down to -40F by my commute tomorrow. I'm tempted to ride just to say I did. I think my gear will be adequate. The plan is to get up early and leave 10 minutes earlier than normal. If its brutal I'll simply turn around and take the car. I'll post the results tomorrow!
    Brrrrrr! Stay warm if you try it, But don't worry, it usually doesn't get brutal until the halfway point

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianMc View Post
    Interesting! The ice balls look like some eggs laid on the shoreline. I thought our snowrollers were just snowballs, not donut-like but looking back at the pic I can see they do have some "holes". Last night when I walked the dog, she alerted to something in the field. It disappeared quickly over the ridge, but it looked like a snowroller in motion. it dropped down to single digits though, so it probably wasn't picking up any more snow.

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    I made it. I wasn't even chilly until I took my glove off to snap the pic (totally worth it). My only punishment was severe resistance of my rear hub. I've been putting off rebuilding the hub with low temp grease. Whoops. Felt like the hub was packed with tar!
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    Rollers and balls:
    Wow, cool! They remind me (a little) of the sailing rocks at the Death Valley racetrack.

    Jag, are you still Rollin on the Romic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rodar y rodar View Post

    Jag, are you still Rollin on the Romic?
    Not this time of year! It's Pugsley season. The Romic is a garage ornament/project until things thaw out.
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    Nice pic @ -11F, Jag. Sadly, those temp signs seem to have mostly disappeared around here.

    Rodar, just a couple days a go I saw a NatGeo special on those rocks, and the research on how they move and leave a mysterious trail in the sand, fascinating! Saw a good crop of snowrollers today while driving, some with the holes.

    Had the day off and drove over to Kingdom trails in the Northeast Kingdom (of Vermont) for some great fatbike singletrack with sick sidehill thrills.
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    ^^^awesome. That trail looks great. I talked to East Burke Sports today about their rentals. I need to get some friends out on fatbikes so they are convinced to buy one....so I have someone to ride with. Why can't everyone be as impulsive as I am...oh right...they gots kidz.

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    I have a pic I took of a big 'ol dead piece of farm equipment out on the playa with a trail behind it in the weather-checked, dried out ground. Same concept as the sailing rocks.

    Never seen the snow rollers. Trip.
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    We get snow donuts up in the Cascades. I've seen them when out shoshoeing, but have never taken a photo. Here are some good ones captured by a Washington DOT plowing crew:

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    You guys are amazing. Photo at -11°, yeow! I've never lived anywhere that ever got that cold.

    I had my coldest ride ever into work today, at a meager 12° F this morning. I was thankful for a full face balaclava I got over the weekend, but overdressed my torso and was a bit damp once in the office!

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    I'm sure it's been discussed already, but can I get some suggestions for a good "proper cold weather" commuter set-up? I'm in Philly and this week is the first read cold snap we've had in a long while (temps in teens in the morning, wind chill single digits). Decided to ride today, put on synthetic longjohns, scarf and an ushanka and I was sweating through my sweater 1 mile in. Way too hot. Than I swapped my ushanka for a regular winter hat and it was pretty rough. What's a happy medium?

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    ^^ Well first of all, I don't ride in anything I'm going to wear at work. I stash clothes at work, and carry underwear/undershirt in my backpack.

    For temps in the teens/single digits, I wear either tights or leg warmers and shorts, covered up by waterproof (which means windproof) light pants. On top I wear a light moisture wicking shirt, covered by a softshell jacket. 2 layers and you're done... the critical part is having windproof stuff. I have Pearl Izumi Lobster gloves for the hands at those temps, and I've used regular mtb shoes with covers, but now I have some decent winter cycling boots. On the head I wear a thin 'clava under the helmet.
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    My winter gear always includes:
    Top: Merino wool base - keeps me from stinking.
    Below 20F I add a quick dry polar fleece sweet shirt over that
    Cover it all with a light fleece lined soft shell jacket. On days near or below zero I'll have frost between the jacket and sweatshirt.
    Bottom: Below about 5 I wear merino wool (-33 brand) long johns.
    Padded shorts
    Cover it all with fleece lined winter tights (Descent Shelter Tights)

    Wrap around face mask
    double gloves
    Not quite warm enough "winter" boots. with double socks.
    Nashbar fleece lined under helmet liner (add a thin pullover balaclava with the mouth and nose open for below 0)
    Hand & Foot warmers for temps below 10. (Store them in a ziplock bag between uses and you can use them up to a week)

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    Thanks for the advice! I pretty much have all of the gear mentioned, just need to bring a change of clothes with me. Duly noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bedwards1000 View Post
    (Store them in a ziplock bag between uses and you can use them up to a week)
    I've never messed with those, but that might make it worth it right there.


    I should also add that at some point in there I switch to my snowboard helmet... it's basically vent-less, and has ear-warmer flappy things integrated into the straps. I don't know how much warmth is adds on top of the 'clava, but it's got to help. It's also designed for goggles, which I should use down around single-digit land, but I never have. The skin around my glasses that is not covered by the 'clava gets pretty cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roma258 View Post
    I'm sure it's been discussed already, but can I get some suggestions for a good "proper cold weather" commuter set-up?
    Welcome aboard, Roma.
    Yes, discussed constantly, but that`s a good thing. If you get tired of reading here, you can check out some more really nice tips at Icebike Home Page (although some of it is a little bit outdated).
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    Quote Originally Posted by roma258 View Post
    I'm sure it's been discussed already, but can I get some suggestions for a good "proper cold weather" commuter set-up? I'm in Philly and this week is the first read cold snap we've had in a long while (temps in teens in the morning, wind chill single digits). Decided to ride today, put on synthetic longjohns, scarf and an ushanka and I was sweating through my sweater 1 mile in. Way too hot. Than I swapped my ushanka for a regular winter hat and it was pretty rough. What's a happy medium?
    It takes some trial and error, but if your hands and feet were OK, you're 90% there. I am happy with a thin wool or synthetic hat under a bikehelmet (styrofoam insulates as well as protects!) until about 0F, as long as it covers the ears. Below that I switch to a ski/multisport helmet, but it's an inferno! I often shed a layer at the halfway point, or switch to thinner gloves, because the rest is uphill (both ways).

    I expect you have a lot of sloppy weather, which is almost harder to dress for, because if you get wet you get cold. Do you have fenders? They keep a lot of cold slop off of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbxplorer View Post
    It takes some trial and error, but if your hands and feet were OK, you're 90% there. I am happy with a thin wool or synthetic hat under a bikehelmet (styrofoam insulates as well as protects!) until about 0F, as long as it covers the ears. Below that I switch to a ski/multisport helmet, but it's an inferno! I often shed a layer at the halfway point, or switch to thinner gloves, because the rest is uphill (both ways).

    I expect you have a lot of sloppy weather, which is almost harder to dress for, because if you get wet you get cold. Do you have fenders? They keep a lot of cold slop off of you.
    Rode again today, went with a New Balance fleece hat instead of the Ushanka, much better. I'm not much of a hardcore commuter, since I live next to the subway, I just take that on the days it rains. Trying to ride a bit more this year. But it's snowing today and I took my Stumpy into work, so the ride home should be fun

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    Dateline Siberia: The Coldest Town on Earth

    No bikecommuters are featured, but you might feel warmer after reading this.

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    I had a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that it was 60 degrees warmer than it was around this time last week. Way overdressed. Tomorrow morning is forecast to be 30 degrees cooler than today.

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    We appear to be locked into a pattern of just under 20 for a low (morning commute), and just under 40 for a high. Clear and dry, with a bunch of leftover snow still melting off when it can. I can live with this. Anything's a pleasure after a few days below zero.
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    More winter fun here - video of ice jam & the ice jam letting go today during the January thaw on the Mad River. Filmed by Justiin Beckwith in the Valley where my K-9 friend Spirit lives. <iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=599069823442294" width="960" height="540" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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    The Long Cold Winter Commuter Support Thread

    It's been windy here lately

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    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    Hey David, did you get affected by those watermain breaks at all? Those videos were insane. (I think you've posted some photos from up on Mont Royal, but I don't really know where in Montreal you are.)

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    Beaver vs. ice jam. My office is moving to Montpelier with the beaver on Monday.
    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/w1MRiH7wqbM?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>Beaver vs. ice jam.

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    The Long Cold Winter Commuter Support Thread

    Well the water slides where about right down south the mountain, in the middle of the almost busiest part of downtown, and I live 3km east of it. However I had to go to college to pick up my compound bow to bring home for maintenance during school break and while waiting for the bus on my way back, a gentleman happen to pass by, and told me that the bus isn't coming anytime soon due to re-routing of the traffic only a few blocks away (coz of the water apocalypse). So I simply walked back home the 2.5km carrying that heavy ass bow and case. At least I had good conversation with that man alongside since he lives only a few blocks away. But later that day I happened to catch a quick view of the news report about the incident and damn that was funny to see people falling down splashing water everywhere time after time

    But a few years ago, one water pipe blew up on my street (I live on a steep street), so I had my own personal water iced slide to go down the road ! It was fun, you could pretty much run the RedBull CrashedIce down that street
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    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    ^^Broken water mains and ice slide in Montreal sounds interresting. I`m going to have to track down the story on that one. What kind of bow did you have to carry, David? Archery or musical?

    Neat ice flow, MtbX. But if you know that reporter, please tell him or her to pan out more next time. The beaver was cool for a minute, but I wanted to see the ice breaking loose!
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    The Long Cold Winter Commuter Support Thread

    I have a 1985ish Hoyt/Easton RAMBO compound bow. In a soft case, so it gets messy in the wind. Lucky it wasn't windy at all that day. I just finished today to clean it all up and sewed straps in the case to anchor the bow in place. I'll have to take pictures now that it's all done. It's a very nice looking bow and it's in very nice shape for almost 30 years of age. Previous owner had it covered it all up with camo tape and painted some parts with green camo paint. It took about 25 hours total to clean it all up, but it's worth it

    Before (already had removed the tape and glue from bottom half a year ago, now finally got it all done) and a quick one from yesterday (spent a fair amount of time polishing the hardware).

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    And a grouping at 15m, then at 20m

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David C View Post
    I have a 1985ish Hoyt/Easton RAMBO compound bow.

    Previous owner had it covered it all up with camo tape and painted some parts with green camo paint. It took about 25 hours total to clean it all up, but it's worth it

    Before (already had removed the tape and glue from bottom half a year ago, now finally got it all done) and a quick one from yesterday (spent a fair amount of time polishing the hardware).
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    I know nearly nothing about archery, but it`s obvious from the way you talk about it and from the detail picture that you chose to post how passionate you are about the sport and the equipment. It sounds just like when we get to talking about a favorite bike! I love to see old stuff well loved
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    The Long Cold Winter Commuter Support Thread

    Thanks, but I have to admit I'm no expert into archery either, just started about 3 years ago and I unfortunately don't have much occasions to go shooting, maybe went like 50-60 times at the very most in the past 3 years.

    However I really enjoy it and I've tried to get myself informed and up to date about the stuff like I do for MTB. Although I still prefer riding my bike, bow and gun shooting are the next things that gets me going. I don't own any gun, but I'm the kind of guy that could spend the whole day at the range and never get bored

    And I also have a thing for older stuff
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    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    Some days you get the bear and others... A video collection of two days rides. Both without the Nokia studded tires. Tired of/for it now.

    No snows2 - YouTube.

    Older bike older rider. In keeping with recent trend in the thread.

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    ^^ I was just starting to think "ooh day 2 looks pretty nice..." and then WHOOPS Ice isn't nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianMc View Post
    Some days you get the bear and others... A video collection of two days rides. Both without the Nokia studded tires. Tired of/for it now.
    Why no studded tires? That seems like the time you'd want them the most.

    Here we go?
    ... Winter Storm Watch remains in effect from late Thursday night
    through Saturday morning...

    * Locations... southern New Hampshire into southwestern Maine.
    * Hazard types... heavy snow possible.
    * Accumulations... snow accumulation of 10 to 14 inches.

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    ^^ They're saying 8-14" here. Depending on the timing, I may skip the bikecommute Friday and try to get the OK to work at home, with an xc ski break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bedwards1000 View Post
    Why no studded tires? That seems like the time you'd want them the most.
    When I really needed them I was recovering from the flat tire mid-turn incident and did not mount them. I rode 2 winters without them before. So I decided to see if I could sneak by without mounting them for the first time on the Deep Vees (16 mm inside instead of about 20 on the other bike's rims). These tires have big beads. If I had stayed off non salted driveways that looked like the meltwater I had seen on the roads...Oh well. Try to let a neighbor by and that good deed gets punished! The A10's were a problem to get seated especially at the presta valve stems. Also only 58 pounds pressure max so they corner poorly and have a rolling resistance like they have stickum for tread. And they still have their casting flashing! Mere babies! Still: slow or face plant? No contest. So I shared this to show you what you've all been missing with your studded tires! And now I will be too.

    You can see by the helmet that I had the moves going with it a while. So it would have been pretty funny from another camera angle. Do you love me...now that i can dance? Even got a break dance move in on landing.

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    -4Fand a chilly ride this morning The longer hill on my new commute makes a difference. Some face parts were cold on the hill and my feet were cold by the end. But a good ride nonetheless. Having showers was nice too although they are far enough away that I rode there and back.

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    The Long Cold Winter Commuter Support Thread

    Brrrr... Cold here too.

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    It looks like "possible" showers or light snow today and tomorrow, then back to our second non-winter in a row. it was starting to look okay there for a while, then... nothing. I`m torn between joy for the nice weather that we realy shouldn`t have and fear for the dry conditions that we`re looking at in the year to come. I might as well enjoy it because there`s nothing I can do about it.

    Brian, are you comparing the A10s` high resistance to other studded tires, or to regular non-studded fare? I`ve long lamented the fact that they don`t come in my size because MY studded tires are such unwilling pigs, but maybe it really doesn`t matter.

    I`ll have to check out you bow pics, David.
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    Rodar it's so weird how close we are to each other and how different the perception can be... we've still got snow on the ground from that storm at Christmas (because of the crazy cold temps that followed), so everyone you talk to around here is so sick of 'winter' We're still longing for the warmer temps so we can chisel the ice off of the driveway. My gutters have JUST started flowing again on the shady side of the house. But you're right, other than the cold and that one series of storms, we haven't had a ton of "winter'. I'm holding out for a big march.
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    Not just perception, CB. From your posts, it sounds like you`ve been stuck in that arctic cold for the duration. We certainly had it, but it left us alone like three weeks ago (as evidenced from the pics of my sexy naked legs). Before that, we had snow hanging out all over for a long time, then snow remnants in the shadows for longer still, but it was all left overs from Christmas and New years that just didn`t want to melt. Sounds like that part mostly rings true for you too, though I think you`ve still had considerably more wet than we have.

    The long range forecast looks a lot wetter. Probably because I already sent in my payment and registration for another event down in Davis for 3/2 and another for 3/23. If my wish for irrigation water comes through, I`ll be chaining up to get over the pass (and sorry about making fun of your Jeep as my fingers turn to ice on the shoulder of I-80) then possibly riding up to 18 hours straight in the rain :O
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    That pic I just posted in the 'post your commuter photos' thread is in the middle of a wide-open field with no shade...just to give you an idea of what's still hanging around from our Christmas storms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rodar y rodar View Post
    Brian, are you comparing the A10s` high resistance to other studded tires, or to regular non-studded fare? I`ve long lamented the fact that they don`t come in my size because MY studded tires are such unwilling pigs, but maybe it really doesn`t matter.
    Peter White says the A10 is the lowest rolling resistance studded tire. I will take him at his word. Sort of like the world's smallest Blue Whale. It isn't saying much. He also suggests cooling it a bit. The higher rolling resistance and the cornering feel dissuade me from that. No pedal drag corners with these! The mass was not noticeable switching out the heavier Michelin City 700-38s on the errand bike for them. I run the Citys a bit soft (50-60 pounds) and the wider rim seemed to work a bit better for the A10's. I have never had such a heavy and low pressure tire on The Duchess. Another wheel set with wider rims would be good. It will hit 50F today back to the 30's tomorrow and in the next 10 days it should be above freezing for my ride. So I'll take them off for a bit anyway.

    Looks like a nasty bit headed Mtbxplorer's and Bedward's way. Done that. Keep safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodar y rodar View Post
    I`ve long lamented the fact that they don`t come in my size because MY studded tires are such unwilling pigs, but maybe it really doesn`t matter.
    If you are talking 26" the Nokian Mount and Ground have a pretty decent rolling resistance if you put the pressure to them. They are rated pretty high, like 60PSI. The studs are less effective at those pressures but they still keep you upright on the occasional patch of ice. If you have an icy ride you can knock them back to 20-30 PSI and they work pretty good for lake crossings but probably not the Icy Climbs I posted in the other thread.

    Yeah, Brian MC, people are getting into that panicked storm mode up here. I'm going to drive the plow truck instead of the bike. Those tires are studded too. The rolling resistance on those must be high too because my fuel mileage in the winter sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bedwards1000 View Post
    If you are talking 26" the Nokian Mount and Ground have a pretty decent rolling resistance if you put the pressure to them. They are rated pretty high, like 60PSI.I bleieve the max is 45 psi The studs are less effective at those pressures but they still keep you upright on the occasional patch of ice. If you have an icy ride you can knock them back to 20-30 PSI and they work pretty good for lake crossings but probably not the Icy Climbs I posted in the other thread.
    The Mount and Ground probably has the lowest rolling resistance of the studded tires....

    However I have always found that 45 psi (45 is max inflation pressure) provides the best ice performance for these tires the studs stick out and or held out better than at lower pressures. I acutually caused the bead to fail on a M&G that I ran at 60 psi for just a few weeks).

    Even up Ice flows the will work fine (the last one of your pictures would be pretty hard).

    The Freddie Revenz is better but not night and day....its advantage is the wider tire and more studs so you almost always have several studs in contact on rough surfaces...ie ice coated rocks etc.

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    I was probably thinking of another tire that goes to 60, big apples probably. But at MAX pressure they roll pretty nice. I've found that you roll mostly on the tread of the tire and he studs are only incidentally in contact with the ice at those pressures.

    I should be able to make it up the top climb but haven't yet. The middle one is tougher than it looks and is very long. The last one I don't even attempt. I wish I had somebody that could climb them around here as a mentor. My route has a lot of smaller ice flows that I can make it up but so far these seem impossible to me even with the Nokian Extremes at about 25psi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bedwards1000 View Post
    I was probably thinking of another tire that goes to 60, big apples probably. But at MAX pressure they roll pretty nice. I've found that you roll mostly on the tread of the tire and he studs are only incidentally in contact with the ice at those pressures.

    I should be able to make it up the top climb but haven't yet. The middle one is tougher than it looks and is very long. The last one I don't even attempt. I wish I had somebody that could climb them around here as a mentor. My route has a lot of smaller ice flows that I can make it up but so far these seem impossible to me even with the Nokian Extremes at about 25psi.
    Pump them up get the studs sticking out....works better than soft on hard ice.

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    I started with them pretty firm and then backed them off based on information I read somewhere. I've try them firm again. Those hills are going to be a surprise for the first snowmobilers to try them with snow over glare ice.

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    Can't hurt (too much anyways ) to try.....

    Also gear selection is important too low and the pedal bounce can cause slippage to high and the torque surge can cause slippage.

    I try to pick a line that is basically on high flatter ice...rather than the ruts or rivulets...the ice is generally of beter quality and the steering less aggressive.

    Everytime I have dismounted on stuff like that I have ended up in a heap at the bottom...the tire studs have far more traction than my boots.

    So bascially it is an all or nothing go for it situation.

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    ^^ I think that could actually hurt quite a bit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbxplorer View Post
    ^^ I think that could actually hurt quite a bit!
    Yes, indeed! Could make BrianMc`s mystery spill look like a toe dab.

    My studs are Marathon Winters. Like you said about the MGs, they roll a lot better with more pressure, but seriously rough ride, and they still don`t roll THAT well. I keep them about 50 when I don`t need every drop of traction. Don`t remember what the sidewall says for a max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffscott View Post
    Can't hurt (too much anyways ) to try.....

    Also gear selection is important too low and the pedal bounce can cause slippage to high and the torque surge can cause slippage.

    I try to pick a line that is basically on high flatter ice...rather than the ruts or rivulets...the ice is generally of beter quality and the steering less aggressive.

    Everytime I have dismounted on stuff like that I have ended up in a heap at the bottom...the tire studs have far more traction than my boots.

    So bascially it is an all or nothing go for it situation.
    These are steep enough where I can't apply enough torque to the ground to overcome gravity. The "Rivulets" (assuming that is the fish scale type ice) are a big problem because they push the wheel to the side. At this point it doesn't matter because they are about to be covered in 2' of snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodar y rodar View Post
    Neat ice flow, MtbX. But if you know that reporter, please tell him or her to pan out more next time. The beaver was cool for a minute, but I wanted to see the ice breaking loose!
    Here's a really good ice jam video from a news photographer/MTB'r/trailworker that I do know. It was taken last Thursday.


    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/58653748?color=141313&amp;api=1" width="400" height="300" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>

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    Wow!
    Much better
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    Winter just arrived again in one storm. We got somewhere around 28" but the wind was crazy. The snow depth varies from none to 5'. They're forecasting warmer weather and wet snow or rain on Monday.

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    ^^ That's impressive! I believe the 5' drifts, my friend over there sent a pic of the snow blocking her Jeep in the garage - it was as high as the 6' fence. Only 1'+/- here, plus 3' drifts. I only snowblowed the driveway at sunset because the wind was so fierce all day.

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    Just a quick farewell to the winter of 2012-2013. It's (almost) over. A good one for me. Didn't drive to work at all, finally got some studded tires, set a new personal low temp record (-4.5F).

    Bring on The shorts and sunshine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    A good one for me. Didn't drive to work at all, finally got some studded tires, set a new personal low temp record (-4.5F).
    Congratulations! I know that no Jeep commutes was a big victory for you.

    PS: Are you going to take the excuses back out of your signature line now that you`ve been studded?
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    I will think of something...

    With all the snow/ice this winter, it was a big deal in my little world to not drive at all due to weather. I'm bummed I drove that one day pre-winter in September in perfect weather, just so I could make it to a stupid meeting. Looks like I'm going to finish the school year with 1 DD barring catastrophe. Still a record, but oh so close to zero.
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    Not saying goodbye yet, they're saying lows in the teens Thursday through Monday.

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    The Long Cold Winter Commuter Support Thread

    This was nice, but cold and snow are moving back in to the east for a couple of weeks. Enjoy it, when it's gone, it's gone.

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    Wow. I`, not sure whether he`s serious or joking. Did you check out the guy`s website?
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    I'm going to go out on a limb and say joking because some days it's all I can do to get me and my rotating front wheel through the snow.

    On a winter support note: I think my lights are put away for all normal commutes until next year!

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    If he is serious, he hasn't tried it. No way that works. The lawnmower though....

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    Well, the ad says he's learned by trial and error, so maybe the plow is one of the errors. He claims to have 1,995 of the lawnmowers out there.
    The vids I found of other lawnmower bikes don't look too convincing though.

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Zls6Ge583lI?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/64Wd5wnUIx4?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    This plow looks good for a bike path.
    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qIffVX9UucU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    But thetrailduster is on to something with the trike/quad pedalplows.
    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/reIHx1ozxYk?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    Nice collection. Those plows looked good as long as there was only 3" of snow.

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    I'm surprised the trike works, too. They are usually one wheel drive in the back. Try riding up a hill with wet grass gets you spinning backwards down the hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schott View Post
    I'm surprised the trike works, too. They are usually one wheel drive in the back. Try riding up a hill with wet grass gets you spinning backwards down the hill.
    I bet that Rubbermaid box is full of something heavy just for that reason. You could conceiveably get a lot more umph out of a rig like that and either push heavier snow or push a bigger plow through fluffy stuff.
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    From Finland - a great video shared by a local all-weather bikecommuter who pedals past my house...
    The sheer volume of winterbikers in the video is heartwarming!

    Best quote: "People don't notice whether it's winter or summer when they are happy" - Anton Chekhov

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/67039532" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/67039532">Winter Cycling For Everyone</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/activetransportation">ActiveTransportation.ca</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

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    My desktop background is a slideshow of all of my biking pictures which includes a lot of winter shots...And I'm pretty glad it is summer! As much as I enjoy my winter commutes across the lake and trails.

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    Are you ready for winter?

    A 1966 Capo Elite "Eis" Austrian hybrid ice skating bicycle with studded wheel for ice traction

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    Boo to this thread.

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    This thread is getting ready to come out of its long slumber I suspect.

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    I'm definitely thinking about it. I did a chainring swap on my winter crankset yesterday, and rewraped the dropbars that I'm plan on using. The parts won't actually get swapped on for another month and a half (or maybe even 2) though.

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    Let it snow!!!

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    It's coming, we had a hard frost on Monday. But today they are forecasting a high of 90F.

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    ^^36 here on Monday, forecast to be 92 with a heat index over 100 today. I refuse to accept winter for 2 more months. Jordy can have it.

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    I'm ready for fall, certainly not for winter. 94 today, not sure how I feel about that.

    The hard top is going back on the Jeep tomorrow, which is slightly depressing. Soft top doesn't make for a nice highway trip and I'm driving 6 hours to Acadia next week.

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    A little pre-winter pump up for the people. GoPro released new video edit software and I had to try it:


    Last edited by CommuterBoy; 09-17-2013 at 03:07 PM.
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    Cb, you`re getting good at that video editing

    Just now comming into my favorite time of year, weather-wise.
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    Nice video, CB. You have a gorgeous commute.

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    +1, good stuff, CB.

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    I am happy I erased all my useless old footage so I don't have to follow in CB's footsteps! Of course the rest of you should be ecstatic!

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    The angle with the camera mounted on the left side of the helmet is so weird.

    I've got my winter build on my mind, but it's supposed to be a bit below 90 here tomorrow too.

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    Another year-round VT bikecommuter shared this yesterday...

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    "Not looking forward to riding home in the dark....again"
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