1. ## Gas Savings Calculators....

A few useful tools to predict your commuter savings and what to expect on that next long road trip.

http://www.bikecommuters.com/gas-saving-calculator/

2. Simple math made easier, thanks!

3. I read the sites, okay skimmed them, but they don't seem to take into account the cost of your bike and related items, upkeep etc. I know in my case it is likely to take me 20 years to recoup the "savings" of riding my bike to work. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for bike commuting, and have been doing it for about 4 years. I don't do it for savings though, mostly just to have an excuse to ride a bike more often.

4. Originally Posted by wheelerfreak
I read the sites, okay skimmed them, but they don't seem to take into account the cost of your bike and related items, upkeep etc. I know in my case it is likely to take me 20 years to recoup the "savings" of riding my bike to work. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for bike commuting, and have been doing it for about 4 years. I don't do it for savings though, mostly just to have an excuse to ride a bike more often.
That's not relevant to the calculations. Everybody's bicycle and cars are different and can't calculate those costs accurately. My commuter cost \$100 while others commuters cost much higher but the objective is just the same. Also, it's predicting the use of carbon output and I'm damn sure bicycle savings car exceeed vehicles in transportation, disposal, and parts production.

5. Originally Posted by homeslice
That's not relevant to the calculations. Everybody's bicycle and cars are different and can't calculate those costs accurately. My commuter cost \$100 while others commuters cost much higher but the objective is just the same. Also, it's predicting the use of carbon output and I'm damn sure bicycle savings car exceeed vehicles in transportation, disposal, and parts production.
How is it not relevant? Given that most people already have a car, If I have to buy a bike for \$100, that's \$100 I could have spent on gas. Plus, Eventually I'll have to replace the tires, clean and lube it. Of course with a car I'll also have to buy tires and change the oil etc. All that adds expense Regardless of how much you paid for your commuter bike what is its carbon output. Generally the less you paid the more likely it was made is Asia, and therefore all it's transport emissions. Given that this is an enthusiast BBS, I assume most people pay more than \$100 for their commuter bikes. I paid about \$1500 for mine, so I need to take that into consideration when calculating my savings. I now commute about 7 miles each way 1-2 times a week (due to the 48 hour shifts I work). ETC ETC ETC, so basically my opinion is that the cost of the bike does play a part.

6. Originally Posted by wheelerfreak
How is it not relevant? Given that most people already have a car, If I have to buy a bike for \$100, that's \$100 I could have spent on gas. Plus, Eventually I'll have to replace the tires, clean and lube it. Of course with a car I'll also have to buy tires and change the oil etc. All that adds expense Regardless of how much you paid for your commuter bike what is its carbon output. Generally the less you paid the more likely it was made is Asia, and therefore all it's transport emissions. Given that this is an enthusiast BBS, I assume most people pay more than \$100 for their commuter bikes. I paid about \$1500 for mine, so I need to take that into consideration when calculating my savings. I now commute about 7 miles each way 1-2 times a week (due to the 48 hour shifts I work). ETC ETC ETC, so basically my opinion is that the cost of the bike does play a part.
It's not relevant because the price of a commuter bicycle is a personal choice and can't be predicted by the calculations in the first link- the topic of the thread. Your choice to pay \$1500 for a commuter is your choice and may or may not save you money. The point to the first link was how bicycle commuting can prove to be a cheaper and sometimes quicker alternatives to getting back and forth to work.

Yes, price would certainly play into the accont if your bike can cost as much as some commuter cars.

7. Here's one that includes maintenance items, but still not cost of bike/car.

http://www.io.com/~mdahmus/biking/bikecommutecalc.php

8. Your daily gas savings is \$8.19 dollars and 37.27 lbs of CO2 will NOT be added to the atmosphere
Your weekly gas savings would be \$40.94 dollars and 186.35 lbs of CO2 will NOT be added to the atmosphere
Your monthly gas savings would be \$163.76 dollars and 745.41 lbs of CO2 will NOT be added to the atmosphere
Your yearly gas savings would be \$2,128.94 dollars and 9,690.35 lbs of CO2 will NOT be added to the atmosphere

Nice. My commuter cost \$350 3 years ago and has about \$200 of upgrades in it, all it needs is cables once a year and a new tube every six months or so: costs of maintenance are so low as to be negligible since I do the work myself.

9. Originally Posted by carbuncle
Your daily gas savings is \$8.19 dollars and 37.27 lbs of CO2 will NOT be added to the atmosphere
Your weekly gas savings would be \$40.94 dollars and 186.35 lbs of CO2 will NOT be added to the atmosphere
Your monthly gas savings would be \$163.76 dollars and 745.41 lbs of CO2 will NOT be added to the atmosphere
Your yearly gas savings would be \$2,128.94 dollars and 9,690.35 lbs of CO2 will NOT be added to the atmosphere

Nice. My commuter cost \$350 3 years ago and has about \$200 of upgrades in it, all it needs is cables once a year and a new tube every six months or so: costs of maintenance are so low as to be negligible since I do the work myself.

10. Originally Posted by homeslice
16 miles each way.

11. Very nice, thanks for the info!

12. OK...So I've spent about \$4000.00 over the past 2 years on 2 different bikes, upgrades, accessories, etc. Exactly right about that being my choice. That's \$4K i've spent on EXERCISE equipment, hobby gear, etc. The health benefits both short and long term justify that expense. The commuting savings are the icing on the cake!!!! The bikes and gear are not expenses I allocate to commuting. Just MHO

13. I think it's funny that I've spent \$550 on my commuter that I ride nearly every day, and roughly \$8500 on my big bike, trail bike and park bike which all get action a couple of times a week. The park bike hasn't been outside in four months! On the plus side, where I lock up my bike at a community college for half the day I haven't spent much on it, so if it gets ripped off I won't be too broken up over it.

14. ..so I'm saving in the neighborhood of \$2.50 a day by riding. Doesn't seem like much but add it up and by the end of the week it's a dinner on the weekend or a blip into the savings account.

Other costs -- well the bike was about \$500 (though I'd probably have it anyway), and I spend probably not more than about \$100/year maintaining it, so that's pretty low. I already had the car and I'm not selling it. I suppose auto maintenance will be slightly less frequent and it will last a little longer/maintain higher slightly higher value by saving some mileage. It's hard to say how much though.There's also probably some benefit in the fact that the car spends the day in a parking garage this way instead of under the hot sun.

Bottom line, it's \$2.50 a day that I'd be spending otherwise. Other costs are hard to be sure about but I'm almost certain I'm spending less on overall related costs than I would with the car.

15. ## savings?

its not actually savings...how many people actually save the gas money that they would be putting into their tank..(and if you do then please post and prove me wrong) its more like re-directional spending...now, since i dont drive to work the money that i would be using on gas (4.75 a day) goes into either lunch...or beer or even my bike maintenance and upgrades. Now everybody has a different direction that their money will go but in the end we really havn't saved anything but the earths enviroment, and maybe our nerves from the rush hour traffic. But the biggest reason is lessening our dependence on gas and the cost of it and helping save our environment for the future generations. I also fall into the category of commuting to work to get more chances to ride. I ride 12 miles into work and 12 miles back and love every minute of it, especially the hotties running in bikinis along my route. And the occasional freakishly crazy homeless person chasing me down for spare change or a beer.........

16. I forgot to pay my car insurance this summer. That saved me alot more then the cost of gas. Its been three months and i haven't needed to reinsure it. Its got an empty tank, dead battery and a broken headlight I have been ignoring as well. Considering that, I saved over the summer, \$30 a month in gas, \$30 a month in insurance, \$30 dollars for an oil change(considering i do these about biyearly, \$5 a month), roughly \$50 for a new light that got broken in an accident. For the bike, I broke a derailur and a chain on the trail(non commute related), patched an innertube and bought a bottle of chain lube. On the whole, i think im \$100 dollars ahead per month. If i make it threw winter I don't have to worry about the car starting either.

17. Originally Posted by citybiker
OK...So I've spent about \$4000.00 over the past 2 years on 2 different bikes, upgrades, accessories, etc. Exactly right about that being my choice. That's \$4K i've spent on EXERCISE equipment, hobby gear, etc. The health benefits both short and long term justify that expense. The commuting savings are the icing on the cake!!!! The bikes and gear are not expenses I allocate to commuting. Just MHO
That \$4k over 2 yrs is comparable to price of owning our car over the last 2 yrs (insurance plus maintenance plus deferred repairs plus...) bike is a lot more fun though, and we don't have that much over any time period into 6 bikes (2/adult, 1/kid) plus trail-a-bike and trailer for additional kid transport.

18. Problem with me is my car gets good gas mileage. My commute is 14 miles a day. I calculated I save just over \$1 a day riding. And the other poster is right. With the money I spend on tubes, tune-ups, biking clothes, and other maintenance, so far the bike has not come close to paying for itself, or even breaking even. In fact, I wrote a little php web script that I use to track every ride I take, and how much money it's saved me in gas. And since I started commutting last summer, I've only saved about \$65 in gas. Course, I only ride in the warm season, and I only get to ride between 2 to 3 days a week. Still, not really saving me much money! And my car is extremely cheap to maintain. '97 ford escort. I would give you the link to my script, cause I think it's pretty cool, but it's not password protected right now, and I don't want people going out there and posting stuff on it.

19. If you stop having a car, then you no longer have to pay car insurance. And you also save on the automobile maintenance you no longer have to do. Take depreciation of the vehicles value into account too. You're saving all sorts of money.

20. I own an F250, which is great for hauling/towing versus daily driving 20-some miles each day (home/work/home). At around 12/15 miles per gallon, the price for gas is high enough to know that I'm able to DISPLACE the money I would have spent on gas towards other bills when I ride my MTB to work. I suffer from road rage, my adrenaline is pegging when I'm being tailgated or if someone isn't going to the speed I think they should be going. When I ride my bike, I arrive to work relaxed, awake, and ready to work.

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