Frame suggestions needed: 700c commuter/touring with flat bar.
Looking for a new commuter/touring ride. Probably want to build from the frame. Here is what I want.
-Mounts for racks and fenders.
-Tire clearance: 35's with fenders minimum, preferably more.
-Needs to handle reasonably heavy loads (like a grocery trip, my Casseroll becomes a wet noodle)
-Road geometry, not mtb geo. I wish I knew exactly what the key here is, but I just find road bikes to be more fun and responsive on the road than converted mtb's.
-Designed for a flat bar (longer TT than for drops). Actually, I'm thinking of something like a Jones H-Loop Bar.
-Disc or v-brakes.
-considering 26" as well as 700c
I really liked the Vaya I tested, but I want to run a flat bar. My past experience sticking a flat bar on a road bike did not feel right (too short in the TT). When I look at the measurements of the size that has a 1" longer top tube on the vaya, it's just too big.
Looked at the surly Troll and Ogre. Liked the idea, but not the geo. I have a KM (which has the same geo as the Ogre) and it is no what I am looking for on the road. Also, I don't like how wide the seat stays are on the KM (my knees hit them) and I am thinking they will be similar.
So, other suggestions?
15mm is a second-best solution to a problem that was already solved.
You're going to wind up with an Ogre. Just embrace the idea
You have no excuse for driving to work
(unless you don't have studded tires)
(no excuse for that either)
Your request for a road bike geometry compatible with a flat bar will limit your choices. The only one I am aware of is the On-One Pompetamine. My experience with that bike is documented here. Overall, I liked it well enough (it has a short wheelbase and short chainstays) overall, but the killer for me was the rear dropout and disc tab. It was so fiddly and particular about the gear you used that I had to get rid of it. Drove me insane.
Got a Vaya instead and I love it.
The Surly Straggler meets all your desires, except v-brakes. Disc only.
Top tube is longer than the Cross Check, so it lends itself pretty nicely to a flat bar setup if so desired.
Oh noes. I'm going to drink the Kool-Aid.
I think the following are designed for use with a drop bar, but if you get a larger size that what you "ought to" get to get a better ETT, you could make them work with flat bars:
Crosscheck of Long Haul Trucker
Soma Double Cross
or you can get a cheap complete bike out of a Novara Safari or Buzz and swap out the parts you don't want.
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