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    Cotic Roadrat v1.3 - my updated UAV

    Urban Assault Vehicle that is. Mostly comfort/confidence updates this winter, thus not a full 2.0 version yet. The v2.0 might happen next winter, with a faux-SS setup using the Alfine 11 hub and disc brakes.

    -Much wider, mildly funky bar (Soma Odin - 28.5" wide, 15 degree sweep).
    -Flat pedals (dropped the clipless after I dislocated my finger during a stupid clipped-in crash). Still searching for some nicer, thinner flat pedals. Maybe Kona Wahwahs or similar.
    -Michelin City 47c tires! That's like a 29x1.85" at 16.3" chainstays!!!

    Yeah, I guess she's a 28'er now! I was all set to go with the 40c Michelin and play it safe after that recommendation from Paul @ Cotic, but when I finally went to order they were gone so I re-checked the generous clearance of my 35c's and took a chance. I'm very happy I did. Should ride nice and cushy now. The changes added several pounds but I'm hoping the payoff is in an even better ride. Between the steel frame and big tires I should be in heaven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesh to Steel
    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    Tire clearance of the fork, seatstays and chainstays/seat tube...wheel is slammed to 16.3" chainstay length. There's over another 1" if I choose to pull the wheel back for stability or more clearance.
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    Last edited by Bulldog; 03-05-2010 at 04:19 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hesh to Steel
    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    Very nice

    Have you had it off road @ all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrm
    Have you had it off road @ all?
    Thanks. No I haven't. New parts went on last week. Temps will reach 40's this weekend but we still have a lot of snow to melt away before the trails will be ridden. I usually can't expect to eat dirt until about May or so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hesh to Steel
    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    beautiful bike Bulldog...guess you can run 38c's with fenders too ...if you could run a 47c... that's a lot of clearance!

    those Cotics look reaaaally nice!....first time I saw one... ;p
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    do you know if the oury lock ons are better that the regular ones?
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    oury lock-ons are definitely less comfy than regular ones.
    less rubber, the same overall diameter but now there's like a 2mm sleeve of hard plastic taking up some of the rubber's space.
    so less cush.
    (easier to work with of course, but less cushy)
    If steel is real then aluminium is supercallafragiliniun!

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    Bulldog, that bike looks like a lot of fun, but that devil logo might keep me up nights.

    Nuck, I've had the Oury Lock ons a few years & love them. The rubber has the right squish so I find them comfy. Very durable too, and I appreciate a company that will sell me replacement the rubber grip part without having to re-buy and trash a perfectly good lock-on part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuck_chorris
    do you know if the oury lock ons are better that the regular ones?
    Better for me, YES. I have the regular ones on my bmx cruiser and they are actually too gooey and they twist constantly even after being glued on. I guess in a less aggressive use like this bike that might not be as much of an issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hesh to Steel
    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    Really nice Bulldog!

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    I heart that bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umarth
    I heart that bike.
    Thank you. Me too. Our temps are up in the low 40's now, but it soaking wet and raining so if I want to ride it will be the beater bike (old Ross) for the time being.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hesh to Steel
    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    quick question

    A question, as I am strongly considering buying one. Are the graphics on the seat tube removable? Are they a decal, clear coated over, printed directly on the frame? I love my bikes to be graphic-less.

    I plan on building it up SS with discs, cant wait...

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    The front disc tab is weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatulentfox
    A question, as I am strongly considering buying one. Are the graphics on the seat tube removable? Are they a decal, clear coated over, printed directly on the frame? I love my bikes to be graphic-less.

    I plan on building it up SS with discs, cant wait...
    The graphics are clear coated over. Non-removable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hesh to Steel
    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog
    The graphics are clear coated over. Non-removable.

    Thanks.

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    Forgot to add, the bike isn't perfect. My only two gripes after a year with this bike:

    -Rear V posts are removable for a clean look, but that design places they way too far inboard. See the seatstay clearance pic. The brake arms are angled way too far out, and this is with the thinnest concave brake pad washers on the inside of the arm. Ideally the arms would be perpendicular to the brake pad, and parallel to the rims brake track. Between that placement and the full brake house I'm running, the brake isn't as solid and snappy feeling as I'd prefer but it still has plenty of power so safety is not the issue, just feel.

    -Derailleur hanger really needs some method of staying attached to the frame during wheel removal. Only the QR mounts it to the bike. I understand the simplicity and the fact many use it only as an SS tensioner, but I curse every time I have to take the wheel off and the hanger/derailleur go flopping twisted all over the place. I'll get a better pic of that soon so you can see what I mean.
    Last edited by Bulldog; 03-13-2010 at 08:37 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hesh to Steel
    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatulentfox
    A question, as I am strongly considering buying one. Are the graphics on the seat tube removable? Are they a decal, clear coated over, printed directly on the frame? I love my bikes to be graphic-less.

    I plan on building it up SS with discs, cant wait...

    If you don't mind glowing at night, I think 3-M makes some black in the daylight tape that might cover the graphics nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog
    -Derailleur hanger really needs some method of staying attached to the frame during wheel removal. Only the QR mounts it to the bike. I understand the simplicity and the fact many use it only as an SS tensioner, but I curse every time I have to take the wheel off and the hanger/derailleur go flopping twisted all over the place. I'll get a better pic of that soon so you can see what I mean.
    O_O That is a weird design, I could see how that could be irritating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog
    Urban Assault Vehicle that is. Mostly comfort/confidence updates this winter, thus not a full 2.0 version yet. The v2.0 might happen next winter, with a faux-SS setup using the Alfine 11 hub and disc brakes.
    Love the Cotic.

    I tried to do a "right click, save as" for inspiration, but I can't save the image. Care to put one up we can save?

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    Love your Roadrat, I imagine the short chainstays are fun on swoopy winding roads, however I am curious about heel rub with pannier bags... For your flat pedal dilemma try Welgo MG-1 flat pedals. One of the lightest. cheapest well made pedals you can get. I've had the same pair on my freeride bike for the last 3 years. Zero problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pushinpixels
    Love your Roadrat, I imagine the short chainstays are fun on swoopy winding roads, however I am curious about heel rub with pannier bags... For your flat pedal dilemma try Welgo MG-1 flat pedals. One of the lightest. cheapest well made pedals you can get. I've had the same pair on my freeride bike for the last 3 years. Zero problems.
    No disagreement, but another pedal suggestion, if you do lots of road riding, is the MKS gr-9 pedals with metal toe clips. Smooth and really comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umarth
    No disagreement, but another pedal suggestion, if you do lots of road riding, is the MKS gr-9 pedals with metal toe clips. Smooth and really comfortable.
    Thanks to both of you. I'm actually running MG1's on my freeride bike and have used them for years. Might have to snag another set from Ebay.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hesh to Steel
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    Bulldog, did you purchase your Cotic from a US distributor or buy directly from Cotic? Looking into possibly purchasing a Cotic, but the fees are a bit much.

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    That frame is high on the 'next bike' list. Such cool features. I don't like the derailleur hanger situation though...hmmm. One question: If you run discs on that fork , do you use a rear caliper on the front? Or is it still designed for a front caliper even though the tabs are on the front/right instead of the rear/left? I like what that would do for cable routing, but it is weird to see the tabs over there
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