Meta SX Info?

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  • 10-18-2011
    coolhandluchs
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    Meta SX Info?
    Does anybody know what the final geometry is on the new Meta SX? Commencal's store says available in 49 days (I think, my french is awful), and still haven't been able to find any hard numbers on the geometry. Does anyone know if this bike will accept a coil shock?
  • 10-20-2011
    nateh805
    scroll halfway down the page: Commencal Expands its Meta AM Platform - Eurobike 2011 - Pinkbike.com

    cool write up, this bike looks like the best AM bike to date!!!!
  • 10-21-2011
    coolhandluchs
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    Yeah, I've seen that before. It's nice to know the angles, but I haven't seen any other geo info (TT length, BB height, etc.) anywhere. For a bike that's supposed to be available in about 6 weeks, there's a remarkable lack of info out there. The AM geo looks really nice, so I'm very curious about the SX!

    Edit: Just checked the site again, looks like availability is 57 days now.

    Did a quick comparison to the last prototype RFX. Might as well compare vaporware to vaporware :devil: Pure speculation, but looks like the SX has a lower BB and same HA with 10mm less fork. SA, TT, and wheelbase look pretty close. Looks good to me!
  • 11-28-2011
    Kerberos
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    Geometry specs
    Here are attached the geo specs I grabbed from another forum.
  • 11-30-2011
    cglasford
    dang that is one sick bike!
    @kerberos- thanks for the geo sheet, I've been looking all over for that, I even emailed commencal but no replay!
  • 11-30-2011
    ggilings
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cglasford View Post
    dang that is one sick bike!
    @kerberos- thanks for the geo sheet, I've been looking all over for that, I even emailed commencal but no replay!

    cglasford-thanks for sending me here! I have been looking everywhere for this!! Looks SICK!
  • 12-01-2011
    cglasford
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kerberos View Post
    Here are attached the geo specs I grabbed from another forum.

    What do they mean by a bottom bracket height of 3.0? what measurement is that in?
  • 12-01-2011
    Kerberos
    It's a European brand, these specs were posted to a german forum from the official german importer. So I guess it's 3cm = 300mm = 11.811 inches. Quite low bb.

    And yes, I too find it cumbersome that the specs are so hard to find. And I wonder if Commençal plans some last minute geometry changes to the frame.
  • 12-01-2011
    Kerberos
    Did you see the short bike check video on the Meta AM on vimeo with the added english subtitle? COMMENCAL META AM, bike check UK on Vimeo

    FYI: The two Absalon brothers won the La Réunion Megavalanche on their SX's last weekend.

    If I understood Commençal's comment a while ago in facebook correctly, they will soon publish such check on the SX.
  • 12-01-2011
    coolhandluchs
    Nice to see some detailed specs, thanks Kerberos!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cglasford View Post
    What do they mean by a bottom bracket height of 3.0? what measurement is that in?

    My understanding is that it's bottom bracket "drop" relative to the axles. Since different sized tires will raise or lower the BB, it's more "accurate" to use drop. In this case, the center of the BB will be 3mm above the axles. If it were a negative number, it would be below the axles. (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong)

    mtbtires.com lists the radius of a Maxxis Ardent 2.4 at 343mm, so with that tire, the unsagged BB would be 346mm or 13.6".
  • 12-01-2011
    cglasford
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coolhandluchs View Post
    Nice to see some detailed specs, thanks Kerberos!



    My understanding is that it's bottom bracket "drop" relative to the axles. Since different sized tires will raise or lower the BB, it's more "accurate" to use drop. In this case, the center of the BB will be 3mm above the axles. If it were a negative number, it would be below the axles. (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong)

    mtbtires.com lists the radius of a Maxxis Ardent 2.4 at 343mm, so with that tire, the unsagged BB would be 346mm or 13.6".

    thanks coolhand! I would have never thought of that. I was trying to figure it out and 3cm doesn't equal 300mm, it would be 30mm so that's why I was super confused but that drop thing makes total sence!
  • 12-01-2011
    Kerberos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cglasford View Post
    I was trying to figure it out and 3cm doesn't equal 300mm, it would be 30mm so that's why I was super confused but that drop thing makes total sence!

    Oops. :blush: Just ignore my math and refer to the original numbers.
  • 12-09-2011
    cglasford
    how does the meta sx compare to bikes like the enduro, c'dale claymore, norco range, and RMB slayer?
  • 12-09-2011
    Rusty_Shackleferd
    Mine will be here in a few days. I'll take some measurements and photos and post them up for you.
  • 12-09-2011
    cglasford
    Thanks that will be nice. I've looked at the geo charts off all and they all look very similar, I was wondering if any one had any first hand experience they could attest too or if I should just put a picture of all of them up on a dart board and give it a toss, haha on a different thread a guy told me to pic the one I thought looked coolest and go with it since they all are nice bikes and a mere mortal like my self probably couldn't tell the difference and would be happy with any of them, haha probably true
  • 12-11-2011
    Rusty_Shackleferd
    META SX - Geometry
    TAILLE // SIZE XS S M L XL
    LONGUEUR TUBE DE SELLE // SEAT TUBE LENGTH 1.0 - 400.0 440.0 490.0 520.0
    ANGLE TUBE DE SELLE // SEAT TUBE ANGLE 2.0 - 73.0 73.0 73.0 73.0
    ANGLE DE DIRECTION // HEAD TUBE ANGLE 3.0 - 66.0 66.0 66.0 66.0
    HAUTEUR DE DOUILLE // HEAD TUBE LENGTH 4.0 - 100.0 110.0 120.0 130.0
    EMPATTEMENT // WHEEL BASE 5.0 - 1125.0 1145.0 1172.0 1198.0
    LONGUEUR TUBE SUPERIEUR // TOP TUBE LENGTH 6.0 - 560.0 580.0 605.0 630.0
    LONGUEUR BASES // CHAIN STAY LENGTH 7.0 - 430.0 430.0 430.0 430.0
    HAUTEUR BOITIER DE PEDALIER // BOTTOM BRACKET HEIGHT 8.0 - 3.0 3.0 3.0 3.0
    HAUTEUR DE FOURCHE // FORK LENGTH 9.0 - 520.0 545.0 545.0 545.0
    HAUTEUR A L'ENTREJAMBE // STANDOVER HEIGHT 10.0 - 705.0 715.0 743.0 754.0
    PROJETE HORIZONTALL BB/TT REACH 11.0 406.0 416.0 431.0 451.0
    PROJETE VERTICAL BB/TT STACK 12.0 555.0 565.0 575.0 595.0
    Note- All lengths in mm.
  • 01-15-2012
    djball
    SX looks hot, but one color? Other concerns, exposed shock, possible issues with internal cables?
  • 01-15-2012
    Rusty_Shackleferd
    The internal cable routing is awesome. Gives the bike a very clean look. It's the same design as the V3 and have had no issues with the cable routing or the open shock on the V3. My SX has yet to arrive still.
  • 10-14-2012
    bluedirt
    just put in an order for this bike. cant wait
  • 10-26-2012
    zauberer
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    Originally Posted by bluedirt View Post
    just put in an order for this bike. cant wait

    it is worth to wait:cool:
    got mine some days ago and I am really happy with the Meta SX

    :rockon:
  • 12-25-2012
    stevieh73
    Do the internal cables not rattle a lot???
  • 12-27-2012
    lschen1216
    still looking for a chance to demo Meta AM , not really easy to find out in Taiwan..
  • 01-06-2013
    cscsw
    HAUTEUR DE FOURCHE // FORK LENGTH 9.0 - 520.0 545.0 545.0 545.0

    just wonder why the size small has a shorter fork. fox 32 vs fox 36?