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    Commencal hardtails gallery

    here's my 2005 vip nuts 3 frame which i completed in late 2007. my goal was to build a nice looking and durable mtb with good componentry. all main parts are sram (sram, rock shox, truvativ, avid) weight is 10.8 kg (23.8 lbs).
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    Looking at the parts you have on there, I'm surprised it weighs so much. Other than that, it's a pretty hot bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f3rg
    Looking at the parts you have on there, I'm surprised it weighs so much. Other than that, it's a pretty hot bike.
    thank you. i was a little disappointed when i received the frame. instead of ~1.600g it weighed 1.800g. anyway, the frame was cheap (super-sale), i like the brand and i love how it looks.

    some parts are rather lightweight but most of them are not (frame, bar, seatpost, crankset, pedals). but weight was not my priority. my goal was to build a nice looking, durable mtb for a reasonable price.

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    My Commençal hardtails:

    Commençal VIP Nuts 5, rigid and singlespeed:


    Currently looking like this:


    Commençal VIP Nuts 2 (?):

    I wanted to use it for XC racing but didn't like the older geometry, so I have replaced the frame for something else. I still have the frame though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qprs
    Commençal VIP Nuts 2 (?):

    I wanted to use it for XC racing but didn't like the older geometry, so I have replaced the frame for something else. I still have the frame though..
    the vip nuts 2 frame was the reason why i decided for commencal. still a great looking frame! what i don't like about the build shown in the pic is the mixture of components (tune, race face, ritchey). i would have decided for one and it would have been a perfect build!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddy yo yo
    what i don't like about the build shown in the pic is the mixture of components (tune, race face, ritchey). i would have decided for one and it would have been a perfect build!
    I agree, it would look better that way.
    I used parts I allready had lying around here, which also explains the white Fox and golden chain (those colours wouldn't have been my first choice, if I went out buying new parts for this frame).

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    My all-time favourite bike!

    I love this bike!

    I originally bought this Combi second hand with the idea of fixing it up to sell on or give to one of the kids but when I tried it out I just loved the way the frame rode. There was literally nothing else on the bike I wanted so the only original parts of the bike are the frame and seat-post clamp.

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    Rock Shox Reba, Hope Bulb/Mavic D321 wheels, mid-range Shimano transmission and brakes. Unusual features; I use Shimano flat-bar road shifters as they have micro-adjust on them which lets you stop the chain rubbing the dérailleur with a click of the shifter. Avid HS1 disks, they squeal less than Shimano ones. Big 48/38/28 chain rings as I ride this bike on the road as well, helps me keep up with my mates on their road bikes! ;0) Bigger cassette to claw back those low gears.

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    Really high riser bars as I get back problems otherwise. Looks mental but feels excellent :0)

    On the road I swap the wheels for Hope/Mavic X317/Specialized Armadillo. A lot of the back/farm roads where I live are pretty rough so the relatively tough wheels let me just batter over them. It's hard work keeping up with road bikes on a MTB but working harder suits me fine. If I wanted it easy I'd take the car.

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    I love this frame so much when it dies I want another just like it. The back end is short and stiff so the bike is agile and climbs brilliantly. The trade-off for the short-stem directness off road is lack of high-speed stability on road but you get used to that. I will be gutted when this frame gives up.

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    Jesus, does that seatpost go any higher? Looks like the bike popped a couple Viagra.
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    New ride _ 2015 Meta HT Essential 29er

    Bike came on June 23rd, and it took me few days to go through everything. First day of trail riding and had a fun day with my daughter. So far so good. More to follow.
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    My Meta HT Trail 29er

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    My META AH Race Plus 650b

    Commencial Meta AM HT 2015 by Jon Morgan, on Flickr
    Commencal Meta AM HT Race Plus
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    2015 Meta HT Trail Race. X01 crank/chainring, 740mm RF Atlas bar, 55mm Easton stem. Fun bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by staffsvw View Post
    My META AH Race Plus 650b

    Commencial Meta AM HT 2015 by Jon Morgan, on Flickr
    Nice bike, how do you find the BB/clearance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokee300 View Post
    Nice bike, how do you find the BB/clearance?
    no issues, due to the single front it sits quite high...
    Commencal Meta AM HT Race Plus
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    Quote Originally Posted by staffsvw View Post
    My META AH Race Plus 650b


    Commencial Meta AM HT 2015 by Jon Morgan, on Flickr


    I'm considering the 2016 one, my only real concern is climbing because of how slack it is. How does it do? And how does ride in general?
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    Meta HT 650b29

    2106 Meta HT 650b29...built it mostly with stuff I already had (besides the seatpost, handlebars, front derailleur and grips). I'm 5'7 but because the reach on this frame is fairly short, I went with a large, which is spot-on. The bike will get a dropper post, maybe a chainguide...might get fatter tyres too. 120 mm fork makes for correct geo with the 29" wheel up front.
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    After a long hiatus from mtbing, I'm back with a vengeance and decided to go with a 2016 Meta HT Race 650b, complete build straight from Commencal. There are some gorgeous pics in this thread, and aside from the killer looks, the components - especially the Pike fork! - are impressive at the price point.

    For those of you riding current Meta HTs, how do they feel size wise? From the looks/sounds of it, they run on the small side. I'm 5'6, right in between a small and medium frame, so I went with the medium. I'm excited to be on a hard tail again. My last bike was a full sus 26" 4x type build with the old Pike up front. I'll post pics once my new bike comes in.
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    Oops... Forgot to quote the post I was replying to
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChileBike View Post
    2106 Meta HT 650b29...built it mostly with stuff I already had (besides the seatpost, handlebars, front derailleur and grips). I'm 5'7 but because the reach on this frame is fairly short, I went with a large, which is spot-on. The bike will get a dropper post, maybe a chainguide...might get fatter tyres too. 120 mm fork makes for correct geo with the 29" wheel up front.
    Gorgeous! I love the yellow/black scheme. How does she feel with a 29" up front? Climbing, descending and steering. I noticed you said you're 5'7 in a large and feel spot on. I'm 5'6 with a medium but like to ride my frames a bit smaller. Do you think I'll be ok with the medium?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6milliondollarman View Post
    Gorgeous! I love the yellow/black scheme. How does she feel with a 29" up front? Climbing, descending and steering. I noticed you said you're 5'7 in a large and feel spot on. I'm 5'6 with a medium but like to ride my frames a bit smaller. Do you think I'll be ok with the medium?
    Thanks! Feel is really good, for me it was more a matter of "how does the 650b feel at the back", since I've been riding 29ers for close to 10 years now. For whatever reason, past a certain lean angle it seems like the smaller rear wheel pulls the bike into a tighter arc, which disconcerted me at first, but became quite a nice trait once I understood how to use it.
    Climbing is good, descending is too, the bike is easy to pop on its rear wheel. 120 mm fork will never work like a 150mm, but it does its job quite well until you get to some really harsh, fast terrain, and it's particularly good in slow, steep situations where it doesn't dive nearly as much as a longer travel fork.
    Rocks and roots, I can notice the bike not picking up speed like a 29er (I had a Canfield Nimble 9 with a similar build besides the 650b rear), which is sometimes a bit frustrating, sometimes a good thing since it doesn't put me in a situation where I need to brake as much. And obviously, the smaller wheel bounces around quite a bit more.
    I like longer bikes, which is why I went for the large, which allowed me to replicate the geo of my other bike which I feel is just spot-on (Transition Smuggler M with Angleset). Reach, angles, BB height, seat to bar distance and height, stem length etc. are all roughly the same on both bikes. I just built the Meta as a lighter, more nimble and playful bike for smoother tracks and a bit of XC without losing the aggressive geo.
    The Meta frame has quite a short reach, so I think you'll be OK on the medium unless you've got really short arms, but I guess it depends on your riding style and terrain too.
    Ah, and it's not a comfy frame. But that was to be expected.
    Just slapped a dropper and a bigger front tyre on it, I'll take a picture and post it later.
    Hope this helps.
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    Thank you for your detailed reply ChileBike, that's a neat way of replicating your accustomed geo. Reminds me of some riders back in the day using a 24" wheel in the back with a 26" up front, but for a totally different purpose (DH, to slacken the HA even more).

    I feel better about buying the bike in medium. I'm usually a cautious buyer, doing as much research as I can on a bike before making a decision. And that includes taking many test rides or at least sitting on a physical bike at the shop. This is my first time purchasing online without even seeing it in person, so naturally I'm nervous about it. There are no Commencal dealers in the US and the only way to see a model up close is if you have a buddy that already has one or if you take a trip to the Commencal US office in California. But when I first saw the pic in an MTBR shootout I was immediately grabbed. Then I learned that the geo is what I'm looking for, and to seal the deal - a pike fork, 1x drivetrain, dropper post - at the price range I'm shopping at. A few things that are missing that would have been nice are ISCG, replaceable dropouts, and a rear through axle. But they weren't deal breakers.

    I'm looking forward to the Meta HT being my do-it-all bike. Hopefully it'll arrive within a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6milliondollarman View Post
    Thank you for your detailed reply ChileBike, that's a neat way of replicating your accustomed geo. Reminds me of some riders back in the day using a 24" wheel in the back with a 26" up front, but for a totally different purpose (DH, to slacken the HA even more).

    I feel better about buying the bike in medium. I'm usually a cautious buyer, doing as much research as I can on a bike before making a decision. And that includes taking many test rides or at least sitting on a physical bike at the shop. This is my first time purchasing online without even seeing it in person, so naturally I'm nervous about it. There are no Commencal dealers in the US and the only way to see a model up close is if you have a buddy that already has one or if you take a trip to the Commencal US office in California. But when I first saw the pic in an MTBR shootout I was immediately grabbed. Then I learned that the geo is what I'm looking for, and to seal the deal - a pike fork, 1x drivetrain, dropper post - at the price range I'm shopping at. A few things that are missing that would have been nice are ISCG, replaceable dropouts, and a rear through axle. But they weren't deal breakers.

    I'm looking forward to the Meta HT being my do-it-all bike. Hopefully it'll arrive within a week.
    You're welcome. I had not physically seen the frame before buying either, but knew what I wanted, and even though I could not find reach or stack numbers, it was easy enough to calculate them based on the Commençal geo chart.
    At first I felt wary of the QR at the back...and then I remembered the stuff we used to do on bikes with QRs "back in the day", without failures. And your comment about the 24" wheel makes me think you do remember "back in the day". Just be sure to use a good, internal cam QR; you can't beat XT for ease of use, clamping power and strength.
    Cheers!

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    Meta HT 650b29 updated

    Well, I finally got around to fitting a dropper, the correct stem and a bigger front tyre. Which barely clears the Marzocchi's arch, so I just might change the fork for something a bit burlier. But as it stands:

    Meta HT frame, large
    Marzocchi 320LR 29" fork, 51mm offset, 120mm travel
    Loaded ZS44/Cane Creek Forty ZS56 headset
    Deity Cavity 50mm stem
    Spank Spike Race 800 handlebar, 35mm rise, cut to 760mm
    Sensus Swayze grips
    Magura Louise Bat Carbon brakes
    Magura Ventidisc 203/160 rotors
    Niner saddle
    X-Fusion HiLo SL seatpost
    Deity seatpost clamp
    SLX 2x10 shifters
    SLX Shadow plus long cage rear derailleur
    SLX 11-36 cassette
    SLX D-type front derailleur
    SLX 24x38 175mm crankset
    Wheels Mfg. ABEC-5 BB
    SRAM PC-1071 chain
    Crank Brothers Mallet DH pedals
    Novatec Hubs
    Sapim Race spokes
    Sapim Polyax alloy nipples
    Stan's Flow rims, 650b rear/29" front
    Vredestein Black Panther Xtrac 2.2 rear tyre
    Vredestein Bobcat 2.35 front tyre
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    I have put a bunch of miles on my 29 meta ht since june of 2015.....great bike and price point.....if I could redesign the 29er ht it would be shorter chain stays - something around 420mm and wider rubber in the rear. I am running a 2.4 in the front and it is perfect....all in all a great ride. May be time to upgrade the original fork....Cheers. Commencal hardtails gallery-img_20160514_163822.jpg


    Commencal I like your bikes but not wild about the press fit bottom brackets and wish you made an aggressive Al or steel hardtail like the honzo or yelli screamy. I guess choice and competition is good!

    Who knows, maybe I will pick up a 650b rear suspension meta trail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerryl View Post
    If I could redesign the 29er ht it would be shorter chain stays - something around 420mm
    Isn't that like asking for a low sugar sugarlump?

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