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    Idea! Are you looking for trail suggestions or area info?

    Maybe this can help alleviate the numerous similar threads, followed by the standard responses. If you do a few minutes of reading and provide us some useful info your questions will likely be a lot more well received than 100 more threads that consist of "hey, I'm coming out.... where should I ride?"

    The Grand Valley (Grand Junction/Fruita/Palisade)

    1. Support a LBS! Plan to stop in one and at least buy a map or a couple gel packets or something. Maybe you wanna try out something you can't find back home, call and see what they rent. Any LBS will probably gladly point you to the same rides we would, heck some of them might offer to let you tag along on their weekly ride. I think pretty much all of the shops are now selling the maps that can easily go in your shorts or a jersey pocket for a couple bucks, they are handy and highly recommended for visitors! Our trails are well marked for the most part but some have lots of intersections and numerous trails to make up a route.

    List of shops by town:
    Grand Junction: Ruby Canyon Cycles, Bicycle Outfitters, Grassroots Cycles, Brown Cycles, The Bike Shop, Board & Buckle
    Fruita: Colorado Back Country Biker, Over The Edge Sports
    Palisade: Rapid Creek Cycles

    2. Try to look at some trail info. Or at least understand the differences in the systems & locales before posting. It will probably help narrow down your questions a bit. Here's a cheat sheet:
    Lunch Loops - Could also be referred to as Tabeguache (Tab-a-watch). Located in Grand Junction, trailhead is rideable by bike in maybe 10 minutes from downtown! This area is more technical than the other areas overall. Lots of singletrack and tech goodness. Advanced ride highlights include Holy Cross, Free Lunch & Pucker Up, Butterknife, Ribbon, Eagles Wing & Tail, Gunny Loop, etc.... Looking for a more intermediate route at the Lunch Loops? Try Pete-e-kes, High Noon/Coyote Ridge/Ravens Ridge, Ali Ali Loop, Miramonte Rim, Kurts Lane and the Klunker/Holey Bucket Loop.
    Kokopelli Loops - Also referred to as just Kokopelli or Loma. Just west of Fruita at the Loma exit. A little bit of everything out here from mellow XC on Mary's, Steve's or Rustlers Loops to super technical stuff like Moore Fun. Highlight for most people is probably some combination of Mary's, Horsethief Bench, Steve's Loop (combined with others). Want a challenge? Check out Mack Ridge, Lions Loop, Troy Built and Moore Fun (AKA "More Walking")! NEW Trail - Hawkeye was recently opened and is a good connector to make some new loop options on the west end (Lions, Mack, Troy Built area). It has a bunch of alternate lines for extra fun.
    North Fruita Desert - Also referred to as 18 Road or just Fruita. Camping onsite, paid and free overflow area. Lots of flowy singletrack, a few newer trails with jumps, etc but this is where you come to just have fun and ride. Overall the most mellow area. Best choice for newer riders, an acclimation day or to stretch the legs after a long drive. Great for a second ride of the day in the afternoon/evening especially if you make this your base camp. Or ride it all in 1 day! Highlights include Kessel's Run, Joe's Ridge, Zippity Do Da, PBR and MoJoes. Having now finally ridden Sarlacc Trail myself..... I'm adding it to the highlight list. It's above the 18rd area, you can do a long ride from the main trailhead to get up there or just drive up and park at the start (what we did).
    Rabbit Valley - Located about 15-20 minutes west of Fruita, last exit before Utah border. Longer XC rides in general. Highlight is probably Western Rim. But if you're looking to churn out potentially a 40+ mile day somewhere, then just link up Zion Curtain. Also consider Overlook trail, Westwater Mesa, Arch Loop etc.... Navigation is a bit more challenging here.
    Palisade - A bit more technical and climby than average. Located on the east side of the valley. Highlight is Palisade Rim. Stagecoach and Kilowatt probably require a little more local info (stop in at Rapid Creek Cycles for info?). Not sure what is kosher to post in public due to issues with accessing the trail without trespassing.
    High Country Rides (Elevations range from 8K - 10K) - There is some good high country riding around, these are great in the summer when it's 100 degrees in the valley. About 45 minutes south of GJ is Turkey Flats/Black Pine on Glade Park. About 1 hour east is the Grand Mesa which includes Mesa Top Trail, Flowing Park and West Bench. NEW as of Summer 2016 Powderhorn Ski Resort has lift accessible riding. They have three trails open currently. The Blue Ribbon trail (blue) is open all the way down. Pinball Alley (black) is now complete. The new singletrack version of Stagecoach (green) is supposed to be complete as of opening day 2017. There is also a bunch of trails about an hour to the south up on the Uncompahgre Plateau like East Unaweep, Little Creek, Corral Fork, Big Creek Scout (and others I haven't ridden yet). Uncompahgre North ATV Map (includes some of those trails I mentioned I'll post a better map if I find one).

    Here is a bit of a overview map (some locations are a bit off, but you get the idea).
    Are you looking for trail suggestions?-biking-map.jpg

    Trailmaps: The best and most current trailmaps are located on the COPMOBA website. These are excellent for planning and you can print them out and put them in your pack. Or buy the shop versions mentioned above (I believe a portion of the sales goes to our local Mountain Bike Advocacy group COPMOBA?).

    How about some virtual scouting? Grand Junction is one of the few areas that got a chance to put some of our trails into Google maps (story)!
    Pete-e-kes
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    Also, chances are there are numerous other websites with this information as well. Here are a few I found, although some of these haven't been updated in the last few years.
    NEW Cycling Western Colorado
    Grand Junction and Fruita Mountain Biking -- gjmountainbiking.com
    Grand Junction, Colorado Mountain Bike Trails | Trailforks
    Mountain Bike Fruita

    3. Give us some info to work with. If you still want specific recommendations it helps if you tell us a bit about yourself and give us some info to work with.
    What type of trails do you want to or generally like to ride? Technical, flowy, jumps/drops & berms?
    How long/far do you want to ride? Are you just looking to get 10 miles in or looking for an all day adventure?
    How many days are you planning to ride? (That way we can recommend multiple areas, specific dates could also help us steer you away from hot/cold/wet conditions in particular areas)
    Tell us about the bike will you be bringing or planning to rent. A rigid SS versus a 6" travel bike makes a bit of a difference.
    Where are you staying and how far are you willing to drive for your ride?

    4. What if it rains?
    First of all, we're in the desert so rain is not a common occurrence at least not enough to rain us out. Grand Junction only averages about 9" of rain PER YEAR. However, our trails are not good when wet, BE PATIENT. Not only will you damage our trails but if you hit our famous bentonite mud, your bike will be completely un-rideable in about 10 feet and you can plan to spend at least an hour getting it clean and working again after you carry it out. Our mud has been known to trash rear derailleurs. Kokopelli & Rabbit Valley are usually rideable the quickest after rain, sometimes within an hour or two. 18rd and Lunch Loops generally need more time to dry out, maybe a day! Please don't rush it, I don't want to be riding or fixing your ruts all summer. Be patient and check with the shops, or see sections #5 or #8 below for alternatives to riding. If we happen to get rained out check Moab, it's 90 minutes away but it might be completely dry.

    If you use Facebook, a great source of trail conditions is the Western Slope Trail Conditions Group.

    5. Post Ride hangouts - Where to have an adult beverage after your ride and maybe something to eat (Breweries mainly)
    Fruita - Hot Tomato, Suds Brothers, Copper Club, Kannah Creek West , Pablo's Pizza
    Grand Junction - Edgewater Brewery, Kannah Creek Brewery, Rockslide Brewery, Ale House
    Palisade - Palisade Brewery, Peach Street Distillery

    6. Camping info:
    Pay Camping
    James M. Robb State Park - Fruita Section - Located right in Fruita (but doesn't feel that way)
    James M. Robb State Park - Island Acres Section - Located just East of Palisade (20-30 minutes from most riding.... other than Palisade)
    Colorado National Monument - Located on top of the Monument (Fruita side), Might be your most scenic camping spot ever.
    KOA Grand Junction - Located southeast of Grand Junction on Orchard Mesa, just past the fairgrounds
    North Fruita Desert - Located literally in the MIDDLE of the mountain bike trails north of Fruita!
    Highline Lake State Park - Northwest of Fruita, has a trail in the park where they do the 18 hours of Fruita Race
    Mud Springs Campground - On Glade park, probably a good 45 minutes from town. Perfect if you are riding Turkey Flats/Black Pine trails.
    Uncompahgre Plateau - There is a few pay campgrounds up there, but it's a long ways from town. Only consider if you plan to ride up there or want something more remote/mountainy.
    Grand Mesa - Numerous pay campgrounds. Probably more than an hour from town. Bring your bug spray.
    NEW - The Camp - Right outside of downtown, maybe 1.5 miles from Lunch Loop trailhead. BUT, they are only open certain dates. Check the calendar on their website.
    Free Camping
    North Fruita Desert - Located southeast of the pay area, look for it on the right as you drive in. NO SHADE. Have to walk to the pit toilets at the trailhead.
    Rabbit Valley - 20 Minutes west of Fruita, has great XC trails near camp! A few pit toilet facilities around.
    Uncompahgre Plateau - Lots of great free camping up there, but about an hour outside of town. Good if you plan to ride up there.
    Glade Park - Some good free camping up there, but a good 45 minutes from town.
    Grand Mesa - At least an hour from town. Bring your bug spray.
    RV Only - Most of the above accept RV's and trailers but also allow tent camping. These are RV Only!
    Junction West RV Park
    RV Ranch - Located in Clifton
    Moon Dance RV Park

    7. Looking for a guide or mutli-day tour?
    Desert Rat Tours
    Colorado Back Country Biker
    Bikerpelli

    8. Other non-biking stuff to do:
    Colorado National Monument - Don't miss. It's like a smaller scale grand canyon. Plan to take at least one hour for a quick drive through, more likely 2+ depending how often you stop for pictures or if you stop at the visitors center.
    Hiking - Amazing hiking can be found in and around the Colorado National Monument and around the valley
    Downtown Grand Junction - Great downtown with lots of shopping, food, etc..
    Dinosaur Museum in Fruita - Great for kids.
    Children's Nature Center - Right across the street from the dinosaur museum
    Museum of Western CO - Decent way to kill an hour or two
    Get Air at the Silo - New indoor trampoline facility that's fun for adults and kids (a new favorite for our family)
    Bananas Fun Park - Something fun for the kids. Bouncy houses, go carts, arcade games, laser tag, mini golf
    Spin City - Another fun place for kids. Roller skating, laser tag, kids jungle gym.
    Glacier Ice Arena - Public skating, broomball, hockey, etc... Might be closed for a month or two during summer (they did for the first time in 2015)
    Grand Junction Motor Speedway - Race some go carts. FAST go carts! It's a bit pricey, but a blast.
    Visit the wineries - Visit and do a tour of multiple wineries!
    Visit Gateway - Visit the auto museum (which is top notch), race a trophy truck or rent a luxury car, even some mountain biking there. Approx. 3 hour round trip?

    9. Misc.
    Please respect our trails. Don't make new or use social connectors, modify the trail, cut corners, ride them when they are wet, etc... Don't cut down trees, break off branches for firewood, learn the single-track yield.
    It's hot here in the summer months. Drink LOTS of water, bring more than you think you'll need on your ride. Use and reapply sunscreen throughout the day. A good strategy is an early morning ride, rest up through the afternoon and find some AC, then do an evening ride if you want more miles.
    Our elevation is about 4,600ft. Take it easy your first day and let your body acclimate a bit if you're coming up from sea-level. DRINK LOTS OF WATER.
    Directional trails - We do have some directional trails now (mostly just at 18rd..... Kessel's, Prime Cut, PBR, Joe's/MoJoes, Zippity). Pay attention to signs, I've watched people ride right past them!
    Try out different trail systems and see what they have to offer. We have a big variety and they all have different views and their own feel.
    HAVE FUN after all we're just riding bikes!

    Edit: Updated 6/19/2017 - Removed LTR, updated Powderhorn Bike Park info.
    Please reply if there are dead links of outdated info.
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    Thanks Cobi, this is something we've needed for a while now. Nice work.

    Some Durango info:
    Trails 2000 has a great interactive map for a great number of the trails in town as well as a few in the high country. They've also got the contact info for most of the bike shop/outdoor sport shops in town.

    If you're planning a trip to our neck of the woods please use the following guidlines:
    1) Don't worry about what tires will work best. Durango has many, many, miles of pretty buffed singletrack. During your visit you're likely to see everything from big hit DH bikes to single speed cross bikes.
    2) Don't worry about which bike to bring if you've got more than one. See the above advice and bring you favorite ride. You could have fun here on just about anything with wheels.
    3) If you're planning on renting, see the trails 2000 link above. Call MBS or Second Ave or P2P. They've all got a large inventory of high quality bikes.
    4) If you aren't keen on striking out on your own for an adventure and want a guide or simply need info on possible shuttle opportunities see Hermosa Tours. Hermosa is a top notch guide company which is owned and operated locally.
    5) RELAX. Durango has a heavy beach town vibe. You aren't going to find too many folks around here who are in too big of a hurry. Go with the flow and enjoy what we have to offer.

    I'm sure I've left a bunch out. Over time some of the other Dgo folks will fill in the gaps.
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    Use this for ideas

    Perhaps these links can give you folks some ideas if you want folks to ride in your area, and how to present it over the internet.

    Trail names, profiles, ratings, links to other trails, GPS routes, etc, etc, theres all the information you need to ride something that fits your wants and needs.

    http://venturacountytrails.org/




    Here's another website with all kinds of rides, or tracks, that you can uploading the route into your Garmins GPS and use it as a guidance system, by using the upload you put on your Garmin Edge for navigating... 5 free uploads per month.


    http://www.geoladders.com/routes.php


    The county's here in So CAL are kind of big, cover a lot of areas.

    Just some ideas, so that people can find the information themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    Perhaps these links can give you folks some ideas if you want folks to ride in your area, and how to present it over the internet.
    That wasn't really the original point of this thread, but I have gone back and added a bunch more info. Mostly because we still get a lot of the same questions.

    Mainly we figured we could provide some information so we wouldn't have the same threads and conversations over and over. We already provided some great links for people to find there own information..... we're just asking people to take 5 minutes to look before posting. It's not that the information isn't already out there.... some people just don't want to do anything on their own. They'd rather just have people tell them where to ride despite not providing any information that would actually help us determine what we should suggest.
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    Crested Butte Info

    I put together a rather large list of trails in the CB area on my website here. Lots of trip reports and helmetcam stuff as well.

    401 usually isn't open until the 4th of July. Trail conditions are updated fairly often in the spring at the Crested Butte MTB Hall of Fame website. Speaking of which, the MTB HOF is worth visiting to see some history of our sport.

    More excellent trail info can be found here as well

    Weather

    Bike shops include Big Al's, Go Big, The Alpineer, and my personal favorite, CB Sports up at the ski area. All of them will treat you right.

    Great camping is available out any of the forest service roads. Sites up Slate river are probably the closest ones to town.

    Almost every restaurant in town is good to excellent. The Secret Stash has the best pizza, but you'll wait for it. Donita's is decent mexican, but the specials are usually superb and much better than anything on the regular menu. The Brick Oven has the best deck and beer selection.

    Hopefully that covers the basics. PM me if I need to add anything...

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    Cobi you are so right about people doing some of their own research. Great thread.
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    Which way is the best way to take horsetheif

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    Quote Originally Posted by CR Race
    Which way is the best way to take horsetheif
    It used to have a sign saying bikes go left , hikers go right. But I don't remember seeing it earlier this season. Not sure if the BLM removed it or someone stole it? I still go clockwise out of habit, but I did pass a few bikers coming the other way last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobi
    It used to have a sign saying bikes go left , hikers go right. But I don't remember seeing it earlier this season. Not sure if the BLM removed it or someone stole it? I still go clockwise out of habit, but I did pass a few bikers coming the other way last time.
    I've ridden it both ways, but I still think Clockwise is the best, especially when busy.

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    Oops, wrong thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cobi
    Also, chances are there are numerous other websites with this information as well. For example, GJ/Fruita info can be found on many websites. Here are a few I like.
    http://www.gjmountainbiking.com/
    A little off-topic, but whatever happened to the guys that put together gjmountainbiking.com? I've ridden all over the place, but still reference the website for information. It would be cool if they or someone continued the good work done on the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drlg
    A little off-topic, but whatever happened to the guys that put together gjmountainbiking.com? I've ridden all over the place, but still reference the website for information. It would be cool if they or someone continued the good work done on the site.
    I think one of the guys that runs it still lurks around on here (gjmtb) but hasn't posted since 2009. If it's anything like the websites I've run/updated over multiple years..... after a while you just start to lose the desire.

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    v2.O is a work in progress. We are committed to revitalizing it with updated and new information. Release date should still be in 2011
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    Suggestions please

    I will be in town June 10th through 12th. I am a fast Cat 1 racer from Santa Fe bringing my Turner Sultan.
    Anybody want to ride? Any group rides this weekend? I like to go long and at a decent pace. if not, trail suggstions would be much appreciated....preferably mostly single track.

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    Are there any good sites out there with gpx files for the Durango or CB area. Have been trying to search for them but mtbr won't search 3 letter words and I have poured thru a ton of threads but jut haven't found anything good.

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    Looking forward to visiting Colorado In September. Hoping it's not too cold. Currently researching rides in the CB, GJ & Fruita area before heading further east into UT then south to AZ. First time in the area from Australia, can't wait to see the mountainous territory over there.

    Now ... back to the research.

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    Looks like there is a time limit for editing posts, so I had to quote myself. Mainly wanted to update, as one of the shops I originally mentioned is out of business, etc.



    Quote Originally Posted by cbmtbr View Post
    I put together a rather large list of trails in the CB area on my website here. Lots of trip reports and helmetcam stuff as well. Same list, but in alphabetical order HERE.

    401 usually isn't open until the 4th of July. Trail conditions are updated fairly often in the spring at the Crested Butte MTB Hall of Fame website. Speaking of which, the MTB HOF is worth visiting to see some history of our sport.

    More excellent trail info can be found here as well

    Weather

    Bike shops include Big Al's, The Alpineer, and my personal favorite, CB Sports, up at the ski area. All of them will treat you right.

    Great camping is available out any of the forest service roads. Sites up Slate river are probably the closest ones to town.

    Almost every restaurant in town is good to excellent. The Secret Stash has the best pizza, but you'll wait for it. Donita's is decent mexican, but the specials are usually superb and much better than anything on the regular menu. The Brick Oven has the best deck and beer selection. Ryce has been a new favorite for asian food.

    Hopefully that covers the basics. PM me if I need to add anything...

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    Okay, I'm planning a trip for spring break. I was originally going to do 5 days in Moab and 3 days in Fruita/GJ but the Moab motel prices are outrageous due to Jeep week so I was wondering if there was enough to do in Fruita/GJ for 8 days? Also, are there any other cool trails within an hour of GJ that are maybe a little off the beaten path? I did a ride last year in New Mexico at a place called White Mesa that was out there but was really cool and fun.

    I am a pretty strong CC rider and can handle most technical sections (can not do Horsethief Bench entrance though!)

    Any advice would be great!

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    check out COPMOBA

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    Hi guys,

    As my username tells i'm a french biker.
    i'm planning my bike/road trip to Utah/Colorado area to ride the trails with my 575 on September.
    i have not yet found the trails i'll ride but for first i'm wondering if September is the right season to go.
    it's not cold yet ? not too much rain and about trails conditions ?

    Thanks for your help, think i'll have other questions later.

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    September can be one of the best months. Early September can be warm in GJ and Moab, but you can get snowed on in the high country at the same time. But all in all, definitely a good time to visit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slope folk View Post
    September can be one of the best months. Early September can be warm in GJ and Moab, but you can get snowed on in the high country at the same time. But all in all, definitely a good time to visit!
    What he said ^^^

    September is *generally* primo. I'd recommend hitting Durango and other mountain destinations as SOON as you get here. Head to Fruita/GJ/Moab *later* in the trip.

    Oh - and don't blame us if we get 3 feet of snow in the mountains on Sep 5th.

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    ok, I'll take my boots and snowboard too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchi rider View Post
    ok, I'll take my boots and snowboard too
    Not a bad idea... Silverton Mountain is not too far away from Durango.

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    I plan to go from Las Vegas To Denver, is that the right way to go or should i do the opposite way ?

    Is Denver area interesting for biking and visiting ? Colorado Springs ?

    I thought about have look at Yeti office in Boulder, is that possible ?

    Don't know exactly how long to stay in Moab area to ride and visit parks, 3/4/5 days ???

    thanks for helping guys

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    Denver -> Vegas is the direction you should plan on, IMO. Flying to Denver will get you into the High Country right away... get your alpine riding done early in your trip. Vegas is in the desert and a long way from the Rocky Mountains.

    Hit up all your Colorado mountains destinations, then make your way to Vegas via Fruita, Moab, Hurricane/Virgin - and save some time for riding in Vegas... I hear there is some good stuff 'round those parts.

    PM me if you'd like detailed recommendations as to routes, etc. - sounds like you'll be here for awhile?

    Yeti is in Golden - which is "on the way" up to the mountains. They'd probably welcome a visitor out there... I hear they're good people.

    I wouldn't "waste" time in Denver or Colo Spgs unless the weather is snowy in the mountains. The riding around here is good, but *pales* in comparison to the actual mountains.

    You could *easily* spend 5 days in Moab. But you could do the same almost anywhere around here.

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    thanks for reply SkaredShtles !!!
    I plan my trip for a 3 weeks duration, agree with you about the direction to follow, needed to know that early to book my flights.

    For the moment i'm solo and it could be cool for me to ride with locals, maybe i'll create a dedicated thread where people could follow me. i'll see later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchi rider View Post
    thanks for reply SkaredShtles !!!
    I plan my trip for a 3 weeks duration, agree with you about the direction to follow, needed to know that early to book my flights.

    For the moment i'm solo and it could be cool for me to ride with locals, maybe i'll create a dedicated thread where people could follow me. i'll see later.
    That's a great idea. Lots of locals would be glad to ride with you...

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    I am looking for some ideas for riding Steamboat. We are heading up there today(7/12/12). I am a cross country rider with better than average tech skill going uphill, I'm a puss going down (too many endos in the past year). I've read about the resort, Today, I will ride to the top and scream down but no lift service for me. I'd rather find some single track away from the crowd and see some of your backcountry areas. Looking for suggestions and if a local wants to show me some of the goods, I'll take that also.

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    Hi Guys,

    I'm planning a 2 week (including 2 to 4 days driving) mountain bike vacation starting around Sept. 10th and driving up from Winnipeg, MB Canada. This will be my first trip your way and so I want to make my choice count, as it's a long drive. There's just so many options that I'm having a hard time deciding on my specific destinations.

    I'd like to hit at least a couple places, if not more, and have narrowed down my choices to Moab, Fruita, Crested Butte and Durango. At this point I'm leaning towards just Moab and Fruita, however I'm wondering if I should try to squeeze Crested Butte or Durango in there, and if so, which one. Doing all of them may be a little too tight, and I may be better off getting all I can out of a couple instead of rushing through and missing some stuff. All four offer different terrain than I have locally (mountain or desert), so I'm sure I'd enjoy any of them. I'll be camping while I'm there

    I'm riding a XC bike, so it is a hard tail (if that matters). I'm basically looking to experience some different terrain and want to get the best bang out of this trip.

    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks

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    That's a tough call. I would suggest doing more than just Moab/Fruita though. I have done trips (coming from Banff) where I have packed them all in with about the same number of days you have, but it would be tight. I don't mind doing a 4 hour ride and a 4 hour drive to get to the next place in the same day, but I know most people wouldn't want to. 3-4 days at each place would give you a good overview though, and you could return to spend more time at your favourite next time. Logistically, Moab/Fruita and CB would probably mean less driving for you. I love Durango though, and the nice thing there is that within an hour of Durango you have desert and high mountain riding, so you could easily get both types of riding you are looking for. Personally I prefer CB and Durango to Moab (especially the vibe of the towns) but that's a personal thing. No matter what you choose, you'll have a great time.

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    Thanks for the feedback TOLOCOMan, you really bring up some good points. One of the nice things about the area is that it really seems to offer a diverse option of terrain and scenery. I was definitely thinking that I may regret not seeing the more mountainous southern part if I just did Moab and Fruita, and it might get a little old with that much time (not that there aren't enough trails of course). I went on a bike trip out your way quite a few years ago and it was awesome, and definitely do miss the mountain scenery.

    I was actually originally going to skip Moab, because it sounds like it gets pretty crowded, which I don't like, however I think I'd regret not checking it out.

    Yeah, I'd prefer to keep the driving to a minimum as far as frequency goes. I know it's silly, but the upcoming pack up and drive seems to loom in my mind when it's a short stay. And sometimes you feel like you 'need' to ride that day, even if you don't feel like it and want to relax, because you only have X amount of time left there.

    I think I'll reevaluate and take a closer look at Durango to see what it has to offer.

    One question that comes to mind is related to weather in Moab/Fruita versus Durango. Would it be safe to assume that a week wouldn't really make any difference temperature-wise? What I mean is Moab/Fruita area is hotter, so the later the better, whereas Durango, it's probably already a comfortable temp at that point. So realistically, which area to go first wouldn't really matter much would it?

    Again, thanks for the feedback, that's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.

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    One quick question for you TOLOCOMan (or anyone else) since you've been to those places. Any recommendations as far as campgrounds that you thought were really nice, or not so nice? There's certainly no lack of options that I came across, but it's a little difficult to tell which ones may be 'nicer' than the others (privacy, shade, scenery, close to trails etc.) from just online pictures, which there often aren't a lot of for campgrounds. And I'd be looking for amenities like water, showers etc., so you can ignore my question if that wasn't in your criteria. If you don't recall, no worries, just thought you might have some useful real-world feedback in that respect.

    Thanks.

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    I know it is probably blasphemy as a mountain biker, but I would rank Moab last of all those places. Basically because it is so touristy and cheesy feeling compared to the others. Definitely some trails worth riding though. My personal fav is the Klondike Bluff area on the new singletrack like EKG and UFO. If you really don't want to move too far during the trip though, Durango/Cortez might be the ticket for you. Can get desert type rides like Alien Run, Sand Canyon, mixed types like Horse Gulch and Phils World, and tons of high country rides too all within an hour of town. Then again CB has lots of high stuff, and deserty type stuff down at Harman Rocks. Man I'm decisive aren't I. Being higher, there is more chance of crappier weather in Durango or CB than Moab, but shouldn't be too bad at that time of year. The aspen could be at really nice colour too.

    I tend to try to camp for free as much as possible down there as there are lots of free places available without any amenities. For amenities, I have stayed at Slickrock campground in Moab, the KOA in Cortez, and the one on the north end of town in Durango (sorry forget the name right now, but right at the north end of the free trolly into town). They are all fine for what you want, if somewhat expensive.

    Hope this helps, I know I might just be making things more confusing...

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    I need some trail advice from you Durango locals. I had a brief ride on your Telegraph trails a few years back while driving through and loved it. I will be there this weekend and would like some advice on a a favorable way to link together all of those great trails in the Horse Gulch and Telegraph systems. I am staying downtown so starting at a TH that I can ride to would be idea but not required. I would like to piece together a ride in the 25-30 mile length if possible taking in all the best they have to offer. Thanks in advance for your help, can't wait!

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    Hey guys looking for a 10-20 mile out and back or loop SS worthy. Gonna be rolling thru the area en route to AZ and only have about 3 hours or so to spend. Coming from the Loveland/Ft. Collins area and my legs and lungs are in good shape. Not looking for anything tech, just wanna roll. Never been to the area so looking for good scenery as well.

    Thanks! Oh and I'm running 32/18 gearing on a 29'er if that helps with suggesting trails that aren't too steep.

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    18 road (North Fruita Desert) would be a good choice. You could ride numerous different loops out ther in a few hours. Definitely SS friendly except for a few short climbs on Chutes and Ladders and Zippity Do Dah. But it's all good out there! I would start with Prime Cut to Kessels, back up Prime to Joes/MoJos (MoJos is "jumpy" you could skip it and hit lower Kessels again, but it has ride arounds on the jumps as well). At that point I'd go East on Vegetarian, down the bottom half of chutes and back on Edge (or go loop around Edge, Edge Connector and come back down on Down Uppity if you need more miles). This all may add up to more than 20 but easily doable in 3 hours. Miles are pretty easy out there.

    You could also go hit the Kokopelli system and ride something like Rustlers, Mary's, Horsethief, Steve's and back on Mary's. this is a great ride with great scenery. It is more technical than above and a little less SS friendly. But I've even ridden it SS and I am fat and out of shape (really). I ride 32/20 on my rigid 29er.

    The other one that comes to mind that fits your description well is Western Rim out at Rabbit Valley. I haven't done it on my SS yet but I think it would be fine. A bit more route finding potential out here and more remote. Probably safer t hit one of the above options, but I do love Western Rim.

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    Hey Guys. I'm an east coast (MA/NH/VT) rider, headed to Grand Junction and Fruita for a little more than a week in May. Specifically the 17th-25th. I've never ridden out West, so I have no idea what to expect. I'm putting together plans, and trying to figure out what the best options are for where to ride.

    I'm relatively fit, and can ride for 2-4 hours, depending on the terrain. I plan to ride as much of the time that I'm out there as possible, maybe taking a day or two to rest. I'll be with 1 or 2 other riders, and we're planning to stick mostly to the Grand Junction/Fruita area, but we might take a day trip to Moab. I ride an XC trail bike here, but am planning to rent a bike that skews a little more AM when I make the trip out. I like to ride up, as well as rip the descents. I'm not afraid of technical sections, but I prefer fast and flowy vs. sessioning a rock garden to find the best line.

    Here are my questions:

    1. Where is the best shop to rent a bike from? I'm seeing a reviews of a few different places, but they don't seem that consistent.

    2. What's a good campground to stay at? Facilities and a shower would be key, but it doesn't have to be fancier than that.

    3. What are the trails that I HAVE to ride? Ribbon looks mandatory, but other than that, it's hard to tell.

    Thanks!

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    IMO you should plan to spend the majority of your time in Moab. But that may just be me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by irafcummings View Post
    Here are my questions:

    1. Where is the best shop to rent a bike from? I'm seeing a reviews of a few different places, but they don't seem that consistent.

    2. What's a good campground to stay at? Facilities and a shower would be key, but it doesn't have to be fancier than that.

    3. What are the trails that I HAVE to ride? Ribbon looks mandatory, but other than that, it's hard to tell.

    Thanks!
    1. I've had good luck with ruby canyon cycles. They have a nice selection of specialized and Yeti rentals.
    2. I would think the KOA in grand junction would be your best bet if you need showers, otherwise go primitive (18rd, rabbit valley,ect). Both rabbit valley and 18rd have pit toilets.
    3. It would be easy to spend a whole week in junction/fruita between 18rd, rabbit valley, kokopelli and lunch loops you'll have a TON of riding to explore. If you've never been to Moab definitely take a day or two an hit one of the classic rides there (slickrock, porcupine rim, amasa back, ect). Enjoy!

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    Agree wit BDKeg. Also check out James M Robb campground in Fruita

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    Awesome. Thanks for the help and suggestions guys. I am SO psyched to ride the area, and Moab. I love riding the east, but hey, you gotta see what's out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irafcummings View Post
    Awesome. Thanks for the help and suggestions guys. I am SO psyched to ride the area, and Moab. I love riding the east, but hey, you gotta see what's out there.
    I haven't ridden out east but I suspect you'll be impressed with the riding out here. You can certainly ride XC out here but you'll probably enjoy a 5" or so FS bike on a lot of trails.

    Must do trails? Differs for everyone, I've seen people blown away by the Ribbon and others kind of like "that's it? it's over?" Just ride most everything at the different areas (18rd, Lunch Loops, Kokopelli) and figure out what types of trails you like/dislike and keep posting in here and people can chime in while you're here. There's enough riding in the area you can ride something new everyday.

    Some of the best trails around are rarely on people's to do list. Trials like Western Rim and Zion Curtain just across the border (accessed from Rabbit Valley) are great and the views will blow you away. Others like Butterknife and Palisade Rim are newer and not nearly as well known but seem to be gathering a strong following.

    Generic to do list:
    18rd - Prime Cut, Kessels, Joes/Mojoes, Zippity, Chutes and Ladders, PBR (ok that's like 80% of the trails anyway)
    Kokopelli - Mary's, Horsethief Bench, Steve's loop, Troy Built, Mack Ridge and if you really need a challenge hit up Moore Fun.
    Lunch Loops - Petekes to Holy Cross and most of the rest of the lower stuff. If you like jumps and tech don't miss Free Lunch and Pucker Up maybe Eagles. Consider Gunny Loop, Butterknife and Ribbon.
    Rabbit Valley - Western Rim (probably my favorite XC trail)

    Definitely spend time in Moab, there's a ton of great riding. I haven't ridden nearly enough there! There is also so much other riding you can do as a day trip from here. Although May is a little early for the high stuff like Crested Butte probably.

    Keep in mind it's gonna be starting to warm up in May. Temps will probably start hitting into the mid 80's regularly and could hit an occasional 90. Or it could snow, haha you never know around here. Drink lots of water and take it a little easy for a few days to acclimate. My wedding was May 21st 2005 and I think it hit like 95.

    Check out (if you haven't already)
    Grand Junction and Fruita Mountain Biking -- gjmountainbiking.com (a little outdated)
    The Skid Map

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    Cobi - That's a great start. Thanks a ton. I'm know full well that there's more riding than I can tackle in the short time that I'll be there. I also know that the climbing is going to take getting used to (the most that I've ever climbed in a day is 1200 ft).

    I'm really psyched for this trip!

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    Agree with most comments here. Having ridden 20 years on the east coast, and almost a year now in the Grand Valley...the riding here is very different (and wicked pisser!)
    In addition to some of the links posted, THE COPMOBA site has most maps you need for riding in the area. Moab is a must do! It would be a shame to be this close to the Mecca & not spend a couple days there


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    Thanks jncarpenter. Coming from the East Coast, what was the biggest difference? I plan on taking it easy first couple days, but as they say, you don't know what you don't know. Anything that I should keep in mind as I'm prepping for the trip and the first couple rides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irafcummings View Post
    Thanks jncarpenter. Coming from the East Coast, what was the biggest difference? I plan on taking it easy first couple days, but as they say, you don't know what you don't know. Anything that I should keep in mind as I'm prepping for the trip and the first couple rides?
    It can be a lot like riding in an oven out in the red rock country. I've been out there when it's in the mid-80's and it's *really* hot. It's likely to be in the 80's when you're there. Plan accordingly. And drink tons of water.

    Still way better than hot and humid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    It can be a lot like riding in an oven out in the red rock country. I've been out there when it's in the mid-80's and it's *really* hot. It's likely to be in the 80's when you're there. Plan accordingly. And drink tons of water.

    Still way better than hot and humid.
    This^...plus, way more rock to ride on. A set of tires that would last a year or more on the EC are toast here in half that time. Also, without all the constant tree cover, there's alot of incredible terrain to look at!


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    Thanks everybody. Booked a camp site, researching rental options, and just dreaming about killer singletrack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobi View Post

    Generic to do list:
    18rd - Prime Cut, Kessels, Joes/Mojoes, Zippity, Chutes and Ladders, PBR (ok that's like 80% of the trails anyway)
    Kokopelli - Mary's, Horsethief Bench, Steve's loop, Troy Built, Mack Ridge and if you really need a challenge hit up Moore Fun.
    Lunch Loops - Petekes to Holy Cross and most of the rest of the lower stuff. If you like jumps and tech don't miss Free Lunch and Pucker Up maybe Eagles. Consider Gunny Loop, Butterknife and Ribbon.
    Rabbit Valley - Western Rim (probably my favorite XC trail)
    This also looks like a great list to me. We just moved to Steamboat, and after just spending a week in Moab with friends, and a winter of skiing some fan-****ing-tastic snow, I needed to drop my RV off for service in GJ. As we were driving thru Rabbit Valley, I kept seeing some trails along the freeway, thinking, "gotta ride here....gotta come ride here....man, this looks like a nice place to ride....we gotta come out here soon...gotta get to GJ/Fruita."

    So we're coming back in a week or so. I'll bring two bikes just for fun (OK, that is a matter of perspective) my Niner SS, and my Salsa BearGrease.

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    Hi all,

    Looking to spend a week in GJ/Fruita sometime in this Fall. My schedule is pretty flexible, so when is the best time to go? Obligatory details: great fitness level, intermediate skills, coming from 1000ft.

    I'm not someone who needs to collect trails; when I find one I like, I have no problem hitting it over and over again (my wife appreciates this quality in me, as well). Ideally I'd love to find a hotel within walking distance of a shop that rents bikes, and which has trail access within riding distance. I'll probably be bringing the Mrs along, who doesn't ride much, so access to one or two beginner loops would be great.

    Suggestions? TIA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeJockey View Post
    Ideally I'd love to find a hotel within walking distance of a shop that rents bikes, and which has trail access within riding distance. I'll probably be bringing the Mrs along, who doesn't ride much, so access to one or two beginner loops would be great.
    Based on your info above I say use downtown GJ as your basecamp.

    Hotels: (There are cheaper options as well if you do some searching)
    Hampton Inn
    Fairfield Inn

    Rent your bike at Ruby Canyon Cycles (a block from those hotels), they rent Specialized. Or from Brown Cycles (maybe 4 blocks away), they rent Trek and tandems/triples... fun for the family!

    Ride at the Lunch Loops. They are a little limited on beginner stuff but she'll be able to get a few loops in if she wants. It's maybe a 3 mile warmup ride to get to the trailhead from downtown?

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    Hey Guys-

    Just got back yesterday from the trip. Wanted to send another note of thanks. It was some epic riding, and a trip to remember for sure. I also wanted to through out a couple thoughts, in case other people stumble across the thread:

    Over the Edge was a great shop in Fruita. Great bikes, helpful and knowledgeable staff. I would recommend them for sure.

    One trail that I didn't see but would recommend is the Palisades Rim trail. My brother and I agreed that it was one of the best trails that we rode (though a little short) and would definitely consider riding it both directions on the same day.

    We're hoping to get back to the area before too long!

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    Quote Originally Posted by irafcummings View Post
    One trail that I didn't see but would recommend is the Palisades Rim trail. My brother and I agreed that it was one of the best trails that we rode (though a little short) and would definitely consider riding it both directions on the same day.
    I mentioned it...... But didn't make a big deal out of it. It's a trail that seems to have a love/hate response. I ran into 3 guys out there from Wyoming the other weekend and they were not enjoying it at all. You did go up and ride the upper (second) loop as well right? If you did, it should have been around 9 miles I think.

    I don't ride it much because I'm not in great shape and frankly it kicks my butt. But I can see why others love it. Glad you had a good time, any other trails you liked?

    Quote Originally Posted by cobi View Post
    SNIP.......

    Others like Butterknife and Palisade Rim are newer and not nearly as well known but seem to be gathering a strong following.

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    Oh, sorry that I missed it in your original post! Might have been because I couldn't find a trail map until we got to town.

    We really liked the Kokopelli area, especially Horsethief Bench. Western Rim was a great trail, but getting in and getting out weren't all that fun. 18 Road had some good stuff, especially once we worked up the courage to do Zippity Do Da. Butterknife was great as well, just the long, uneventful climb out afterwards.

    All-in-all, a great trip. Thanks for the recommendations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irafcummings View Post
    Oh, sorry that I missed it in your original post! Might have been because I couldn't find a trail map until we got to town.

    We really liked the Kokopelli area, especially Horsethief Bench. Western Rim was a great trail, but getting in and getting out weren't all that fun. 18 Road had some good stuff, especially once we worked up the courage to do Zippity Do Da. Butterknife was great as well, just the long, uneventful climb out afterwards.

    All-in-all, a great trip. Thanks for the recommendations.
    You really ran the gamut of the Grand Valley trails. Good job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by irafcummings View Post
    One trail that I didn't see but would recommend is the Palisades Rim trail. My brother and I agreed that it was one of the best trails that we rode (though a little short) and would definitely consider riding it both directions on the same day.
    The lower Palisade Rim is one of my lunch hour rides. I can finish it in about 40 minutes. If you add the upper loop, you're looking at 1.5 hrs plus.

    The climb to the lower loop can be challenging if you're not feeling it or a bit out of shape. It is also easier after doing it a time or two so you know the technical parts of the climb. That's why I would be a little reluctant to automatically recommend it for people coming GJ to ride for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drlg View Post
    The lower Palisade Rim is one of my lunch hour rides. I can finish it in about 40 minutes. If you add the upper loop, you're looking at 1.5 hrs plus.
    Haha, it took me like 1.5 hours just to top out on the upper loop the other weekend! Then I look at Strava and see certain local riders hitting the same spot in like 38 minutes. Insane.

    Quote Originally Posted by drlg View Post
    The climb to the lower loop can be challenging if you're not feeling it or a bit out of shape.
    No, it's more of a suffer fest than a "challenge" if you're out of shape. Ask me how I know. . Still a cool trail though. But I'm like you and take caution recommending it. What I've learned about Palisade riding in general: you better either be a strong rider or enjoy some suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobi View Post
    Based on your info above I say use downtown GJ as your basecamp.

    Hotels: (There are cheaper options as well if you do some searching)
    Hampton Inn
    Fairfield Inn

    Rent your bike at Ruby Canyon Cycles (a block from those hotels), they rent Specialized. Or from Brown Cycles (maybe 4 blocks away), they rent Trek and tandems/triples... fun for the family!

    Ride at the Lunch Loops. They are a little limited on beginner stuff but she'll be able to get a few loops in if she wants. It's maybe a 3 mile warmup ride to get to the trailhead from downtown?
    I actually went through GJ the other day on my way back from Moab. I had time to kill before catching a flight, so I toured downtown. GORGEOUS. I got to stop by both Ruby and Brown - GREAT shops! I also had some spinach/cheese/bagel concoction from the bakery right there. Nom nom.

    So, who's hiring software developers / IT project managers in Grand Junction? (dead serious!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeJockey View Post
    So, who's hiring software developers / IT project managers in Grand Junction? (dead serious!)
    Well my former employer is still looking to replace me...... (Sorta, I think they gave up and are trying to promote from within). I just took a new job May 1st. But they don't do software development.

    IT jobs are TOUGH to find here and they don't pay as well as they should. Many go unadvertised (like my last 3 jobs now). Basically I haven't filled out an application or done a resume since 1998.

    Check out the paper, and check out St Mary's Hospital website, they always seem to be looking for IT guys. If you have questions feel free to PM me, I can at least tell you who NOT to work for. There are a few places that advertise a lot, because nobody wants to work there for more than 6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeJockey View Post

    So, who's hiring software developers / IT project managers in Grand Junction? (dead serious!)
    If you like to be close to GJ/Fruita/Moab, you can also consider larger cities like Salt Lake City where you would have more IT positions. I would give certain anatomical parts to land a great IT job in GJ - however I was able to land an awesome gig in Ogden (30 miles north of SLC) which puts me at a close 5 hours to GJ.

    Just an idea.
    I don't use Strava. Don't need an application to tell me I am slow because I already know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawson Raider View Post
    If you like to be close to GJ/Fruita/Moab, you can also consider larger cities like Salt Lake City where you would have more IT positions. I would give certain anatomical parts to land a great IT job in GJ - however I was able to land an awesome gig in Ogden (30 miles north of SLC) which puts me at a close 5 hours to GJ.

    Just an idea.
    Yep, that's pretty much what I've been doing. I found a few things in Ft. Collins that I'll be looking into. How is Ogden as far as pollution goes? Is it outside the inversion that hits SLC pretty hard?
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    OK Vail Valley-ers... where do I pick up "The" map for the Eagle trail system? Recommendations on routes? Will have wife and 13 yo with me...

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    Can someone recommend a solid route through Lunch Loops?
    I'm going through town and want to hit some of those rock features, tech riding, etc. And, would like to do a solid loop through the system, etc.
    2-3 hours maybe

    Or, is it easy to just get there and figure it out?
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWnSWCO View Post
    Can someone recommend a solid route through Lunch Loops?
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    up pet-e-kes, up tabeguagcue, down pucker up, back up tabeguache, holy cross, miramonte rim, across ridge, past where you climbed up, down eagle's tail. best ride EVER.

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    Snark's Route is good, but if you like jumps/drops I'd change it a bit to go up higher and include Free Lunch......... Google Free Lunch videos if you aren't sure what it is . Vimeo has a decent one 4321921 (Video wasn't linking right for some reason, kept trying to embed it instead)

    So if Free Lunch looks good to you, then I'd say:
    Pete-e-kes, up Tab, Pre-nup, Lunch Line, Free Lunch, down to Pucker up, hard left up high noon to tab, back up to Holy Cross, after HC if you've still got time/legs you could do Miramonte Rim and then go back up High noon to finish on Eagles Tail. If not, just head down Ali Alley (or better yet, go down Raven Ridge), then Curts Lane back to the TH.

    I'd suggest having a trail map with you. Everything is well marked, but lots of turns out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cobi View Post
    Snark's Route is good, but if you like jumps/drops I'd change it a bit to go up higher and include Free Lunch.........
    Cobi is correct, Free Lunch is definitely super fun. i hesitate to recommend it to people because sometimes it can be a bit more than what people expect. it is a blast though, and if you have the time, i would hit it.

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    Just an FYI, I just updated the original post. Added a bunch of links to shops, tour companies, camping info and added general trail system info. And just cleaned it up in general (removed un-needed info, dead links, etc.). Look it over and tell me if I missed anything.

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    Good Crested Butte trail info here:
    2 rides (1 short and 1 long) in CB later this month?

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    steamboat spring classic mtb ride

    steamboat trail suggestions that don't interfere with the steamboat stinger please

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobi View Post
    Just an FYI, I just updated the original post. Added a bunch of links to shops, tour companies, camping info and added general trail system info. And just cleaned it up in general (removed un-needed info, dead links, etc.). Look it over and tell me if I missed anything.
    Thank you for the sticky and the update Cobi.
    A buddy and I will be riding GJ/ Fruita area for two days in conjunction with Outerbike in Moab.
    Would you recommend us getting lodging in Fruita or GJ? Looks like GJ probably has better food options.

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    GJ has more food and entertainment options if that matters to you. Fruita is pretty quiet at night.

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    GJ/Fruita info updated 7/7. Added info on Powderhorn riding, camping info for "The Camp", added Kannah Creek West & Pablo's in Fruita, Ale House in GJ. Removed a few dead links.

    Considering adding info on "biker friendly" hotels (like Balanced Rock in Fruita)? Are there others with storage, a wash station or that allow you to take them into your rooms?

    Please feel free to suggest additions to the original post.

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    Looking for suggestions on a route in the west end of the Kokopelli area. My group has ridden Marys/ Horsethief/ Steves many times...Moore Fun once and we may give that a go again this time. We have never been on Troy/ Lions/ Mack.

    After doing some reading I'm pretty sure we want to ride the Troy/ Lions/ Mack area and I want to include Mack Ridge but am looking for suggestions on how to create the ride. We are not native Colorado riders so we take any chance to minimize brutal climbing. Which direction should we ride Mack Ridge? Do we use Troy or Lion's off the west end of Mack? Where should we park? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by titusquasi View Post
    Looking for suggestions on a route in the west end of the Kokopelli area. My group has ridden Marys/ Horsethief/ Steves many times...Moore Fun once and we may give that a go again this time. We have never been on Troy/ Lions/ Mack.

    After doing some reading I'm pretty sure we want to ride the Troy/ Lions/ Mack area and I want to include Mack Ridge but am looking for suggestions on how to create the ride. We are not native Colorado riders so we take any chance to minimize brutal climbing. Which direction should we ride Mack Ridge? Do we use Troy or Lion's off the west end of Mack? Where should we park? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!!!
    My first obvious suggestion would be to park at the saddle between Mack Ridge and Moore Fun instead of the main trailhead. Unless you want a couple miles on the frontage road to warm up that is. Seeing as you are familiar with the area I assume you already know where I'm talking about. Getting up to the saddle may require some ground clearance, if that's a concern park at the bottom of the hill by the cattle guard.

    That leaves you with about 2 main route options for Lions/Mack/Troy Built and it mainly depends if you want to climb or descend Mack ridge (east side). That combo of trails in my opinion always presents some downside on each route option.

    Option 1 (Figure 8). Start w/ riding Lions East to West, then climb all the way up the double track to the top of the ridge and drop down the North side to Troy's and ride it CCW. When you finish Troys you'll cross Lions again and climb the new Mack Ridge section directly across from you and descend the Mack ridge East side to finish. Pro: finishes with a fun decent down Mack Ridge to the car. Cons: Climbs new section of Mack which is probaly more of a DH route, but you may walk a few of the same sections up or down so to me it's a wash.
    Are you looking for trail suggestions?-koko1.jpg

    Option 2 (CCW loop). Start by climbing Mack Ridge, stay right (don't go down the new section to Troys south end). Drop down the same double track road mentioned above, ride Troy Built CCW, then finish with Lions West to East. Pro: honestly, not sure there's much "pro" (over option 1) Cons: Climbing Mack Ridge and missing out on descending it to finish. Also miss the new section of Mack (1.2m west end), yes you could drop that section and reclimb that vert on the road like option 1 but you didn't sound like you wanted to climb just for grins.
    Are you looking for trail suggestions?-koko2.png

    Alternate option (CW Loop) - Lions East to West, Troy Built CW, climb the double track back up to Mack Ridge and descend Mack Ridge East side. Honestly this is probably my favorite direction of all three trails BUT that climb up to Mack Ridge from the North end of Troy's SUCKS. It's just a steep jeep road but it feels longer than it is. If I recommend it you, you may curse me forever. This will likely be my preferred route when (hopefully later this year?) we have the new Hawkeye trail which will go from the Mack exit lot up to Mack Ridge (thus eliminating the road climb). All that said, it's just a road and the worst of it is maybe a mile or so total, if you can't ride it, it's an easy push and at least you aren't shouldering your bike etc... Maybe others thinks it sucks less than I do (I'm fat) but I doubt it.
    Are you looking for trail suggestions?-koko3.jpg

    Not knowing much about you & your group I'd probably go with option 1 as the safest bet (and you'll enjoy the final decent). But if you've done Moore Fun before this is not that hard. I'll be curious what others suggest, this trail combo always gives me pause on how I want to link it up.

    PS - Since it sounds like you and some or all of the rest of the group have ridden Koko a number of times, have you ridden/considered other areas like the Lunch Loops?
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    Wow! Incredible reply and detail. This gives me enough to make a go at putting a ride together in this area. Thanks very much...really.

    We have been riding Lunch Loops this first day of the trip for several years. We usually do Free Lunch/ Pucker Up/ Lemon Squeezer/ Holy Cross, etc... We don't ride all the features but we manage most of them and have a blast.

    A couple of us really like the technical rock areas which is why Fruita/ Moab is a yearly trip. 18 Road doesn't hold much interest. We just haven't ever been on the west end of the Kokopelli area and are looking for something new.

    Our trip is often 5 days with the first day in Fruita, 3 in Moab, and the last day in Moab or Fruita.

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    I have one guy who will not be in shape this year. If I want to ride in this area and give him a ride in the 5-8 mile range that gets us back to the car while allowing the rest of us to ride Moore Fun while he takes the vehicle to the east parking lot...suggestions?

    West on Lions and back east on Mack? That's really the only option parking at the lot near the saddle, I guess. I suppose we could ride Troy out and back a ways in the middle of that small loop.

    Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by titusquasi View Post
    I have one guy who will not be in shape this year. If I want to ride in this area and give him a ride in the 5-8 mile range that gets us back to the car while allowing the rest of us to ride Moore Fun while he takes the vehicle to the east parking lot...suggestions?

    West on Lions and back east on Mack? That's really the only option parking at the lot near the saddle, I guess. I suppose we could ride Troy out and back a ways in the middle of that small loop.

    Any thoughts?
    Yes, West on Lions, back East on Mack would probably be my suggestion in that case. Troys Built isn't significantly different that you won't get the idea from riding Lions, Mack. If he still has legs he could always do the north half of Steves, still fun.... and cut it off in the middle for a few extra miles while you guys trudge through Moore Fun.

    Another option, not as technical overall as Mack/Lion though is Trail2/Western Rim at Rabbit Valley just a little further West. It's like a 15-18 mile long version of Mary's loop with even better canyon/river views on Western Rim proper. I like Zion Curtain as well, but the navigation is a little bit trickier (not terribly hard to miss a turn out there your first time... I did). As long as you take the map it shouldn't be a problem. Those are open to motos as well, but I never run into more than a few, sometimes none.

    Glad to hear you've hit the Lunch loops. Consider Gunny Loop out there as well! Or Butterknife is another good option if you like the tech (3.8mile jeep road climb to finish though)!

    Another newer tech trail that is a blast (once the climbing is over) and has fantastic views of the valley is Palisade Rim.

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    The Butterknife experience used to be much better when the trail system in Bang's Canyon was newer. Taking Twist-n-Shout down to Butterknife is a mess with all the loose trail. It is to be expected since it is a quad ATV trail. Even sections of Butterknife has gotten bad.

    The road climb from the river back to Little Park Road is hell. I think Butterknife is more of a locals trail because visitors don't want to come to the Grand Valley to spend 45 minutes grinding back to the parking lot.

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    New question here. Wider trail suggestions for a tricycle/handcycle?

    Greetings Forum-
    Apologies for ~cross-post to CO:Front Range

    My best bud will be out visiting this month and I am looking for some trails in your area that would be good for us. He is paraplegic and uses a 3-wheel handcycle. He has had success on trails in Oregon, but I am new to CO myself and looking for some suggestions.

    I realize it may be a difficult request, but looking for some fun, flowy trails that are not too technical and that have minimal rocky drops and super tight switchbacks.

    Thanks in advance for any suggestions!