Phil's World

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  • 06-05-2010
    pivotpoint
    Phil's World
    Cortez has it going on!!! Went to Phil's world yesterday and I have to say that whoever is involved with building the trails has done the best work I have seen to date. Thank you!!! There has to be at least 20 miles of trail that rails. Wish I took some pictures but I was to busy riding the sweet terrain. Thanks again! :thumbsup:
  • 06-05-2010
    boostin
    yes I'll agree. I roe Phils a few weeks ago and it was simply awesome. The whoops in ribcage and past that were freakin great. I'll be coming back someday
  • 06-22-2010
    philstrailgnome
    26 miles currently, with a few more in the works! Should have another new loop complete by Fall. Thanks. Glad you all had fun!!!
  • 06-24-2010
    lonefrontranger
    I lovelovelove Phil's World, it just sucks that we live in Boulder and don't get down there all that often. My favourite kind of singletrack ever: smooth, flowy, swoopy and uninhabited!
  • 06-24-2010
    cbrossman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lonefrontranger
    I lovelovelove Phil's World, it just sucks that we live in Boulder and don't get down there all that often. My favourite kind of singletrack ever: smooth, flowy, swoopy and uninhabited!

    Sucks for you, for us, it keeps it ... "uninhabited" ;)
  • 06-24-2010
    shoulderfu
    Dont let cbrossman get under your skin.He is just bitter that his brand new ss sits unridden in his garage :)
    "Uninhabited"?? That's not how the parking lot looks on a weekend,hehe.
  • 06-27-2010
    ilovemtnbiking
    I rode Phil's last summer. really fun place. I was lucky to hook up with a local who took me on the grand tour
  • 07-09-2010
    keithrad
    Just got back from a 2 week vacation split between Breckenridge and Durango, and tried Phil's for the first time. The whole family ( wife, 14 year old son, 9 year old daughter and myself ) managed 14 miles. and had a great time. What are those cool lizards that have the yellowish heads and the green/blue bodies out there? We had one checking us out as we were fixing a couple of flats and having a snack...Really fun trails that the family can enjoy together.
  • 07-09-2010
    BeanMan
    Collared Lizards.
  • 07-09-2010
    Jim Beam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BeanMan
    Collared Lizards.

    Are those related to collard greens?
  • 07-09-2010
    zx6rpete
    Anyone notice a trail reroute around the Abajo (I think) climb before the rib cage? Seemed extra sandy and a slightly different route then I remembered. Maybe it was just the sand that made it seem different.
  • 07-10-2010
    keithrad
    Thanks BeanMan, my wife was oh so close to getting an up close picture of one but he decided better of it... Fast little turds! How does Sand Canyon compare? I understand it is in that area.
  • 07-10-2010
    shoulderfu
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by keithrad
    Thanks BeanMan, my wife was oh so close to getting an up close picture of one but he decided better of it... Fast little turds! How does Sand Canyon compare? I understand it is in that area.

    Sand canyon is totally different.It's like a "mini" moab.About 1k lower in elevation....hot in summer! Def worth checking out if not too hot out.
  • 07-12-2010
    bones get broke
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zx6rpete
    Anyone notice a trail reroute around the Abajo (I think) climb before the rib cage? Seemed extra sandy and a slightly different route then I remembered. Maybe it was just the sand that made it seem different.

    I'm not sure that's a re-route. If we're thinking about the same piece of trail, then it's the short cut connector from lower Rib Cage back to Abajo. They put it in so you can lap Rib Cage without poaching private property (which I think people were doing prior to the connector).
  • 07-12-2010
    Singletrack Maps
    Last time I was there Abajo was re-routed slightly just before you climb up on top of the cliff band...just before Cortez Lookout. Coco Race had a re-route just before you drop into the wash. I think all the work was done before 12 Hours of Mesa Verde.

    Phil's World is so awesome!!! Keep up the great work down there!!!
  • 07-12-2010
    smilinsteve
    Pictures please!
  • 07-12-2010
    jhazard
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smilinsteve
    Pictures please!


    That's Sand Canyon... Phil's is too fun to stop for photos :thumbsup:
  • 07-12-2010
    Lawson Raider
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BeanMan
    Collared Lizards.

    Here is a collared lizard. Very cool lizards. I bent down to get a pic and he struck a pose for me.
  • 07-16-2012
    ShiverMeTimbers
    I'm really excited to be heading out to Phil's this coming weekend. Anyone have tips on other trails in the area? We are camping at Mesa Verde NP.
  • 07-18-2012
    jryter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lawson Raider View Post
    Here is a collared lizard. Very cool lizards. I bent down to get a pic and he struck a pose for me.

    That is an Awesome Lizard pic!
  • 07-19-2012
    zrm
    I've never been there, does Phil's World get gooey when it's wet? We will be going through that area on the way to the San Juan river and are contemplating bringing bikes. It looks like the Monsoon is starting to really kick in.
  • 07-19-2012
    jryter
    It would be messy when wet. The good thing is that it takes a really good storm to get really wet in Cortez as it is lower elevation. Odds are it will be dry....as it doesn't rain often. I think. maybe. possibly....
  • 07-19-2012
    TomP
    hard-bake or peanut butter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jryter View Post
    It would be messy when wet. The good thing is that it takes a really good storm to get really wet in Cortez as it is lower elevation. Odds are it will be dry....as it doesn't rain often. I think. maybe. possibly....

    It's hardbake clay. If it gets wet enough to saturate that clay it's as bad as it gets. Think, bikes so clogged up with clay that they are too heavy to carry.

    That said, it takes quite a bit of moisture to saturate the clay, as jryter says. Maybe even more than one rain; good long soaking. Since it's hard-bake the first splash of rain tends to run off. And that makes it tacky.
  • 07-19-2012
    zrm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TomP View Post
    It's hardbake clay. If it gets wet enough to saturate that clay it's as bad as it gets. Think, bikes so clogged up with clay that they are too heavy to carry.

    That said, it takes quite a bit of moisture to saturate the clay, as jryter says. Maybe even more than one rain; good long soaking. Since it's hard-bake the first splash of rain tends to run off. And that makes it tacky.

    Got it, thanks. There's a hurricane remnant spinning in the Baja California area that's probably going to be pumping moisture into the four corners area for a few days is why I asked. We'll be looking for side canyon flash floods.
  • 07-20-2012
    mtbscott
    Got to experience Phil's World for one all too brief ride last summer enroute to nationals in ID. Leaving today for a week in Durango and we plan on hitting PW's probably Monday as early as we can get the cats herded up.
  • 07-26-2012
    rpalmer
    What are daytime temps like down there right now?
  • 07-26-2012
    SilverBullet
    Just went there the other weekend, and it rained a little bit before we rode. Nice and tacky. Best sunset ride ever.
  • 07-26-2012
    Anonymous
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rpalmer View Post
    What are daytime temps like down there right now?

    Somewhere between the surface of the sun, and an iron smelter.
    :D
  • 07-27-2012
    forkboy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jim Beam View Post
    Are those related to collard greens?

    I think they prefer the term Lizards of Collar.
  • 07-27-2012
    Anonymous
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by forkboy View Post
    I think they prefer the term Lizards of Collar.

    Californis Califides.
    My spelling may vary from the norm.
  • 07-31-2012
    mtbscott
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rpalmer View Post
    What are daytime temps like down there right now?

    Rode Phil's World last Monday, started around 9:30 and our large group was all done by noonish. I'm going to say probably high 80's or low 90's but completely bearable. Bring lots of water.
  • 07-31-2012
    mtbscott
    I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but I have to point out that Phil's World was in much rougher condition last week than when I rode it in June of last year. Lots of erosion, particularly on the rib cage and other larger drops similar to those. The rockier parts hadn't changed at all. I'm guessing there's been some pretty heavy rains and the trails built on the fall lines become rivers at times. I know it's a lot of trail to maintain.
  • 08-13-2012
    CanyonDad
    Echo that; we rode it last weekend and there was tons of washout and sand over the trails. Still superb riding.
  • 09-20-2012
    COSK2
    Hi gang - heading to Cortez at the end of October - first timer. Wondering if anyone has recommendations for camping in the area. Thanks!
  • 09-20-2012
    boostin
    One time we camped at a reservoir a few miles out of Cortez, I don't remember the name or where exactly, only that it worked well for us. There is also a KOA in town. You can camp in Mesa Verde NP too but it might be a drive to get out into the park, the entrance is very close to Phils fwiw.

    It might have been Mcphee Lake. Hopefully someone more local can chime in and give you more definitive answers.
  • 09-23-2012
    TOLOCOMan
    Good free sites up at the Boggy Draw trail head. Decent trails to ride right from camp too. About 20 minutes to Phils, 45 minutes to Sand Canyon from there.
  • 09-25-2012
    COSK2
    Thanks - sounds like what I'm looking for!
  • 10-31-2012
    verdugomountainlocal
    Love Phil's World. here's a pic

  • 10-31-2012
    justin_amador
    When I went there 1 or 2 years ago, Phil's was great but, I like sand canyon even more. It felt more adventurous to me.



    i took a couple pic's a Phil's, too. They turned out kind of crappy since I forgot my little tripod that ride.
  • 10-31-2012
    COSK2
    So, the trip is complete and it was a success. We ended up above Dolores, near the Boggy trail system. Camping was easy to find and the area was amazing. Rode Phil's and it was awesome, but I enjoyed the Boggy trail system more, especially the Bean Canyon loop. We rode almost sixty miles in three days there, all amazing. There is plenty to go back and see, not to mention the Dolores River Brewery - highly recommended!
  • 10-31-2012
    KgB
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by COSK2 View Post
    So, the trip is complete and it was a success. We ended up above Dolores, near the Boggy trail system!

    so how far is that from Phils and is there a map of the Boggy trais, I have not heard of them
  • 11-03-2012
    COSK2
  • 11-12-2012
    Foote30
    I am planning on heading that way next weekend to take my son on a train ride in Durango. Does anyone have any idea if with the relatively warm and dry week ahead if Phils or the Telegraph trails in Durango will be good to go.

    Thanks
  • 11-12-2012
    Singletrack Maps
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foote30 View Post
    I am planning on heading that way next weekend to take my son on a train ride in Durango. Does anyone have any idea if with the relatively warm and dry week ahead if Phils or the Telegraph trails in Durango will be good to go.

    Thanks

    You should be good to go!!!

    No snow accumulated in town this past weekend and looks like only a dusting on top of the ridge lines in town...

    Enjoy!

    .
  • 11-12-2012
    Foote30
    Great, thanks for the info. Shaping up to be a great late season weekend. Can't wait.
  • 11-12-2012
    jhazard
    better double-check on the train though, I work in town and haven't heard it running, maybe they're still doing weekends?
  • 11-12-2012
    Foote30
    Thanks, I will call to double check. I saw on the internet they are doing some kind of winter train ride for kids. I have never gone it but sounds like it is pretty cool for a 2 year old that is obsessed with trains and such.
  • 01-09-2013
    Valentich
    Phil's is the jam. Being new to the area I've only ridden it once, but can't wait to do it again. Stoked that it's only an hour or so away. The best thing about it is that there is something for everyone. From beginner, intermediate, to advanced.
  • 01-09-2013
    richccc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by COSK2 View Post

    Thanks for the map and info, part go my plan for future trip.
  • 01-16-2013
    shrubeck
    Anyone know what the current conditions are like? Snow? Mud? Awesomeness? It's supposed to be warmer there than Junction this weekend, but dry trails may be a bit much to hope for.