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    Hartmans Rocks 411

    Wife and I are here at Hartmans Rock ready to roll. What are some of the 'don't miss' rides and trails with better direction than others? We don't mind climbs, but really love flowy and techy descents (rather than going up them). We have the maps and everything, but would love to get the local's input.

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    Hopefully I'm not too late...most everything can be ridden in either direction, but prefer riding rattlesnake south to north. Techy trails you should ride Ring dike, rattlesnake, freefall, ridge trail, gateway, Sawtooth. Had to miss out there try to link up as much as you can.

    Here's my suggested loop Jack's>ridge > top of world >fenceline> gateway >luge >broken shovel > back in> sawtooth >skyline > sea of sage > rattlesnake > becks or freefall > notch

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    One of the worst unflowing "ride it the other direction" is Rattlesnake. Rattlesnake was made going North. Riding it southwards has no fun.
    Technical Becks is really fun, Behind the rocks as well.

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    Rattlesnake heading north is definitely one of the nicest trails at Hartman's. I like to approach it by first riding Josho's (counterclockwise), whose start can be reached from various other trails. Other highlights for me include Gateway and Josies (going south) and Outback.

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    Rattlesnake, Josies, Dirty Sock.

    Personally, I don't like those little scree funnels on Rattlesnake, but the rest is a blast.

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    Hartman sucks... Rocks.

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    Just an update. We did most of the northern trails the first day before it got to hot. Luge, Becks, Rocky Ridge, fence line, Josie''s, sky line, rattle snake, gateway. I love rattle snake, went back and did it again a few times!

    I did catch Gunni's message. We went south the next day and hit up Josh O, 9-0, outback, (something else), back to Bambi, and then sawtooth. I did the Dyke Ring on the way back to camp.

    You guys have a great series of trails out here! I really liked Sawtooth, outback, rattlesnake and ring dyke.

    Question: Are the trails always this sandy? did we just hit them the wrong time of year? I know the whole state hasn't had rain, but when is the ideal time to come out here?

    BTW, i'd like to buy the trail designers/builders a beer. As a trail builder myself, I know the work that goes into all of that. Thank you, we appreciate all they (you) have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure View Post

    BTW, i'd like to buy the trail designers/builders a beer. As a trail builder myself, I know the work that goes into all of that. Thank you, we appreciate all they (you) have done.

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    A beer or a gallon of gas. Motocyclist built trails are wonderful aren't they
    99% of the problems and questions posted here would be answered if people actually walked into a bicycle shop and asked

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure View Post

    You guys have a great series of trails out here!
    I told you this in 2006-ish, numbnuts. But no... you guys had to go ride some clay-ridden horse-$hit-filled gully on the Grand Mesa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    I told you this in 2006-ish, numbnuts. But no... you guys had to go ride some clay-ridden horse-$hit-filled gully on the Grand Mesa.
    Yep, and that was a mistake. However, we wouldn't have quotes like "did you feel that" and seeing the jackrabbit guy laugh under the influence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure View Post
    Just an update. We did most of the northern trails the first day before it got to hot. Luge, Becks, Rocky Ridge, fence line, Josie''s, sky line, rattle snake, gateway. I love rattle snake, went back and did it again a few times!

    I did catch Gunni's message. We went south the next day and hit up Josh O, 9-0, outback, (something else), back to Bambi, and then sawtooth. I did the Dyke Ring on the way back to camp.

    You guys have a great series of trails out here! I really liked Sawtooth, outback, rattlesnake and ring dyke.

    Question: Are the trails always this sandy? did we just hit them the wrong time of year? I know the whole state hasn't had rain, but when is the ideal time to come out here?

    BTW, i'd like to buy the trail designers/builders a beer. As a trail builder myself, I know the work that goes into all of that. Thank you, we appreciate all they (you) have done.

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    Glad you enjoyed it! Some really great alt lines on Rattlesnake.

    The lack of rain has really turned Hartmans into a sand pit. With regular rain Hartmans turns into tacky track and it really gets awesome. Hopefully we'll get into the monsoon season and the bliss will return. You have to pick and choose the trails these days, some are better than others. As far as trail builders, most were built by DW, Rattlesnake by someone else (not sure if I should be naming names) and I can only take responsibility for Freefall and collarbone alley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure View Post
    , i'd like to buy the trail designers/builders a beer. As a trail builder myself, I know the work that goes into all of that. Thank you, we appreciate all they (you) have done.

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    Gunnison Trails / Gunnison Colorado Tuesdays are non-motorized trail maintenance days, show up! Send 'em a donation and you will most likely get an email back from THE Dave Weins!
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    Really?

    I ask a simple question, thank the trail builders and this is what I get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure View Post
    I ask a simple question, thank the trail builders and this is what I get?
    BS! I gave you some +rep for riding Hartmans. BTW it's been raining, not so sandy the past couple days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure View Post
    I ask a simple question, thank the trail builders and this is what I get?
    Come on... grumpy locals. You can't actually be surprised?

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    Hoping to ride hartmans after breck 100, thanks for the advice here guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnirider View Post
    Here's my suggested loop Jack's>ridge > top of world >fenceline> gateway >luge >broken shovel > back in> sawtooth >skyline > sea of sage > rattlesnake > becks or freefall > notch
    Kind of a last minute trip to gunny tomorrow night. We're camping at the KOA so I assume I can ride to the trailhead easily. That map/route description is a little overwhelming (probably what non-locals think when they look at a LL map for the first time)!

    Planning on a 2+hr or so ride Sat AM. Any other suggestion? Otherwise I'll probably try to follow some of what's listed above.

    If it matters, taking my Spearfish (100/80 full travel). Not looking to climb a ton, just a quick fun ride that won't make me worthless the rest of the day so I can keep up with the 4yo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobi View Post
    Kind of a last minute trip to gunny tomorrow night. We're camping at the KOA so I assume I can ride to the trailhead easily. That map/route description is a little overwhelming (probably what non-locals think when they look at a LL map for the first time)!

    Planning on a 2+hr or so ride Sat AM. Any other suggestion? Otherwise I'll probably try to follow some of what's listed above.

    If it matters, taking my Spearfish (100/80 full travel). Not looking to climb a ton, just a quick fun ride that won't make me worthless the rest of the day so I can keep up with the 4yo.
    It is a bit overwhelming at first, and it might feel like you are lost out in the sage country with tons of BLM roads/trails going everywhere, but the trails are short so you'll never be on one for very long. All are very well signed as well. You shouldn't have any problems if you're used to riding LL

    all of the above mentioned are fun. I like doing Jack's > Beck's > Behind the Rocks > Alonzo's > fenceline > Gateway > Josie's > Buddy Bear > Dirty Sock > Dave Moe's > Enchanted Forest > Outback > Back In

    From there you got a lot of options, head back on skyline out sea of sage to rattlesnake or Ring Dyke

    Or perhaps over to sawtooth and down Bambi's back on the road to the main trailhead

    Or perhaps Skyline to Broken Shovel to Josho's to Rattlesnake and back to the trailhead.

    The beautiful thing about Hartman's is that most trails will be pretty good in either direction, get creative, but also check the topo as you don't want to be climbing on a trail that has excellent downhill like riding Rattlesnake N to S (don't do it).

    Also a heads up, some of the trails at Hartman's have been damaged by the recent rains/storms.

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    THanks BDKeg

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    Weny out at 3pm. Did your route till I finished Gateway then had to bail out down Becks & Collarbone. Was out of time, had to get showered and go to dinner with the family.

    Fun ride. Wish I had time for more but it was a full day. Was a little hard to figure out where I was going. Frustrating to constantly stop to pull put my phone and look at the picture of the map I took at the trailhead. The only other people I saw put there were pulling out maps as well.

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