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    Quote Originally Posted by TomP View Post
    And now this?

    How much footage over there in Frutah/Grand Junkyard? Looks like clear weather through the holiday weekend, but how much slushmud will there be on the trails?
    Should be pretty good by mid-week. Currently very sunny and mid-40s. Snow is gone everywhere but the shade. I'm thinking hero dirt this weekend.
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    Horsethief was decent this morning, by tomorrow, tuesday, everything should be pretty good, and wednesday it should be spectacular.

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    No snow left. Reports I got today... Koko and rabbit valley are ready now, I'd give lunch loops and 18rd another day or two. Forecast looks good through thanksgiving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahColorado View Post
    ... I'm thinking hero dirt this weekend.
    Thanks folks. Might have to go get myself a red sand fix this weekend. All froze up over this way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heckled View Post
    No snow left. Reports I got today... Koko and rabbit valley are ready now, I'd give lunch loops and 18rd another day or two. Forecast looks good through thanksgiving.
    Rode The Burn, Koko, and Western Rim today out at RV. Burn was NOT ready for prime time--bikes got all ****balled up with mud three times. Koko and WR were great, as you'd expect. I'd give The Burn til Saturday, assuming a sunny Friday.

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    OK folks, how bad is it?

    I know you got new snow over the weekend. The forecast is for daytime temps below freezing for yinz 5 days out. Salida's forecast is actually slightly warmer...

    How much white stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomP View Post
    OK folks, how bad is it?

    I know you got new snow over the weekend. The forecast is for daytime temps below freezing for yinz 5 days out. Salida's forecast is actually slightly warmer...

    How much white stuff?
    trails are covered. you can fatbike the heck out of em though

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    Quote Originally Posted by snark7 View Post
    trails are covered. you can fatbike the heck out of em though
    That's kind of what I was guessing. Probably 2013 is over for riding dirt in CO. [Sigh]

    I can ride a fatbike here. Got one I can borrow, should probably do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomP View Post
    That's kind of what I was guessing. Probably 2013 is over for riding dirt in CO. [Sigh]
    Not sure I agree... it's going to be mid 40's to 50 down here in the Front Range and we got minimal snow from that last "storm". If it's consistently sunny for the next 7-10 days, I bet we could be riding again by later next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snark7 View Post
    trails are covered. you can fatbike the heck out of em though
    Another Monday, another "how's she lookin'?" post.

    Looks like the Grand Junkyard weather has been consistently colder than ours. Here in Salida we warmed up to daytime highs into the high 40's and 50's, and it's been melting down. That's the forecast for this week too.

    Looks like over there you're supposed to be no higher than the 30's again all week? Weird to have you guys 10-15 degrees colder than we are...

    So did anybody get out over the weekend? What would you expect for this coming weekend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomP View Post
    Another Monday, another "how's she lookin'?" post.

    Weird to have you guys 10-15 degrees colder than we are...
    that, my friend, is the wonders of the inversion. we need some winds to blow it away.

    trails are covered in snow still. they are packed down and people are riding regular nonfat bikes on em.

    we are supposed to warm up, which means melting, which means mud. you can still ride early morn and early evening when it freezes. mid day will be just warm enough to be muddy and crappy.

    hopefully gonna get some rain, which will wash the snow away, then we just need to dry out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snark7 View Post
    that, my friend, is the wonders of the inversion. we need some winds to blow it away.

    trails are covered in snow still. they are packed down and people are riding regular nonfat bikes on em.

    we are supposed to warm up, which means melting, which means mud. you can still ride early morn and early evening when it freezes. mid day will be just warm enough to be muddy and crappy.

    hopefully gonna get some rain, which will wash the snow away, then we just need to dry out.
    Looks like I'm going to be over there this weekend, gonna bring XC skis and road bike. I don't want to be on your mud and you don't want me to be on your mud. From what the weather service is saying, a bunch of melting isn't too likely over there in the next several days.

    Right now here in Salida we have the dirt->mud->ice->snirt->ice->mud->dirt thing on our trails. But most of our mud isn't clay. Over there a wet trail is a full-on nightmare.

    Thanks for confirming what I was thinking would be the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomP View Post
    Looks like I'm going to be over there this weekend, gonna bring XC skis and road bike.
    Even the roads suck right now. There is a lot of snow/ice/filth in/on the roads. I'm not braving them yet.....and the sub-freezing temperatures aren't helping my motivation either.

    This has been a sucky a$$ winter so far.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahColorado View Post
    Even the roads suck right now. There is a lot of snow/ice/filth in/on the roads...
    So a bad bet to try to ride the Monument...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomP View Post
    So a bad bet to try to ride the Monument...
    Good Nordic skiing on Grand Mesa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm View Post
    Good Nordic skiing on Grand Mesa.
    Totally. I used to go up there all the time when I lived in the Junkyard in the 80's. That'll be the plan.

    Imagine going over to the Grand Valley and not bringing a bike. Sacrilege.
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    Lunch Loop trails are still over 50% paced snow and ice. With the weather not warming up much the snow's been sticking around.

    Overall the trails are OK for morning riding when the trails are still frozen. But the seasonal clowns (bikers,runners,hikers and dogs) have been out in the afternoon tearing up the trails when it thaws out.

    Can't see much changing since we're looking at the same low-mid 30 temps for the next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2o-Bar View Post
    Lunch Loop trails are still over 50% paced snow and ice. With the weather not warming up much the snow's been sticking around.

    Can't see much changing since we're looking at the same low-mid 30 temps for the next week.
    We checked out Gunnison a River Bluffs/Old Spanish Trail loop in Whtitewater yesterday morning and found pretty much the same out there except it is 90% snow covered. Didn't wanna chance tearing up LL so we went out there where there isn't any Bentonite. Although at 12 degrees I'm sure we'd have been safe! Guess the bike is gonna stay hung up for a while longer unless it's an early morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobi View Post
    We checked out Gunnison a River Bluffs/Old Spanish Trail loop in Whtitewater yesterday morning and found pretty much the same out there except it is 90% snow covered. Didn't wanna chance tearing up LL so we went out there where there isn't any Bentonite. Although at 12 degrees I'm sure we'd have been safe! Guess the bike is gonna stay hung up for a while longer unless it's an early morning.
    Oh how do I remember bentonite....nasty stuff when it's wet and gets all gunked up in your bike's business....
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    I was riding north of the airport in GJ this past summer in the desert, and got into a steep gulley with wet bentonite at the bottom (dry up top, but a mess at the bottom). There was more mud than bike when I got finished.

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    Any updates for GJ/Fruita? Is it frozen and ok in the am? If so what time do you need to finish?

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    It's been getting in close to 40' in the afternoon. I haven't been out past noon and the trails have still been mostly frozen. The snow has been slow to melt but the weather being almost 40 for the next week it should help.

    Safe bet is to get out early before it turns sloppy.

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    Things that are sunny have been getting soupy by 10. Shady is ok till a bit later, but temps are warming this week. Earlier the better

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    10AM has been safe the past few weeks, but it's getting warmer (and staying warmer later) now than then. At Lunch Loops the main wash, lower Pet-a-phile, Kurt's, lower Miramonte, and lower Clunker/Bucket are all sloppy by ~10:15. Essentially all of the lower exits from LL.

    So if you can't be off the trails by 10 sharp, head *up* to LPR and then descend pavement.

    The stuff that is melting out daily is taking a beating from people that are out there too late.

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    Off by 10 should be no problem. Thanks for the updates. Was thinking of hitting koko or 18rd, but might just hit LL since it's closer. Was so desperate I was considering a gravel road ride out at 18rd if nothing else!

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    Did Mary's out and back. More snow and frozen mud than I was expecting! Cows have a few sections pretty beat up along with the ruts from people riding too late! Off by 9:30, no problems.

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    Please up date some trail conditions for the front rangers, for this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratmfreak99 View Post
    Please up date some trail conditions for the front rangers, for this weekend.
    Still nothing to ride after 10am. Head to Moab like us.

    It is apparent to those of us that get out early when the ground is frozen that people are trying to ride mid-day and later - the trails are getting pretty hammered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahColorado View Post
    Still nothing to ride after 10am. Head to Moab like us.

    It is apparent to those of us that get out early when the ground is frozen that people are trying to ride mid-day and later - the trails are getting pretty hammered.

    Thanks!
    Hey Noah, is Moab actually that much better? I've been amazed every time I check weather. Grand Junkyard and Moab both are consistently 8-10 degrees colder than here in Salida. Bass Ackwards.
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    Trails are getting pretty torn up.

    Got out early for a little KoKo ride. Look's like some Kook's have been out riding in the mud.

    Total Bullsh*t. The cow's and hikers aren't helping either.

    The snow/moisture is slooooow to be coming off. Guess I'll be riding frozen rut's for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomP View Post
    Hey Noah, is Moab actually that much better?
    Yes and no. Amasa Back has been a God-send, ridden that three times this month. Headed back tomorrow to check out other possibilities.
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    I think I saw on the Utah forum that Sovereign was ok too. Some of Klondike as well. Considering a road trip.

    Is 18rd Ok early or no go?

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    Took a drive out to 18rd last weekend. The trails had alot more snow/ice on them than I expected. I had to turn around after less than 5 min.

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    Thanks. I kinda slept in anyway and missed my window this am. Planning to play hockey tomorrow am, so I guess no ride for me this weekend. Soon enough..........

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    I got out on the Lunch Loops yesterday morning. It was the 1st time since the last couple storms and the rain that we got on Monday. We haven't gotten a hard freeze overnight the last 2 evenings and it was already soft at 0700.

    The new snow is melting pretty good but the trails are going to be really muddy for the next week or so. Guess I won't be riding this weekend but the dirt will be excellent for some trail work!

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    Time to head for MOAB!

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    Any updates for a font ranger. And any moab updates.

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    as of monday 3 March, most everything is pretty rideable and sweet, except for the higher stuff in Junction. Same with moab, higher stuff still needs a bit of time.

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    Few of my friends just got back from Moab. They road right off Copper ridge; don't really know the name of trails and it looked pretty damn good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRiethmiller View Post
    Few of my friends just got back from Moab. They road right off Copper ridge; don't really know the name of trails and it looked pretty damn good.
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    Fruita/GJ Conditions

    Quick moab update for those interested. Porc rim from stock tank good to go. A couple spots of snow/ mud today (3/5/14). Not sure about LPS. Saw one other person the whole day!

    7-up and mag 7 good to go as well.

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    Any conditions reports for Kokopelli trail up high? Thinking about it the first week of April.

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    Any updates on Rd18? I was out there a month ago riding dirtbikes and it was still a little soft and I noticed a lot of hoof marks on the mtb trails. I was hoping to get out there this weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by mullbags View Post
    Any updates on Rd18? I was out there a month ago riding dirtbikes and it was still a little soft and I noticed a lot of hoof marks on the mtb trails. I was hoping to get out there this weekend
    Hella rad bro.

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    Fruita/GJ Conditions

    Pretty awesome conditions this last weekend. Both 18rd and LL. Perfect timing on a 5 hour ride at LL on Sat. Started right after the rain, finished just before it kicked back up again.

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    Just returned from 1 week in Fruita/GJ/Moab. All trails were in fantastic shape with the exception of upper Porc. Rim (snow/muddy). Cold on upper Lunch Loop Trails (i.e,. the Ribbon) but once the sun came out, it was primo! Really fun and low crowds made for an awesome week. BTW, got caught in some big wind up high on 18 Rd. trails. Not recommended! I've NEVER had to lean into the wind in order to stay upright while riding. Blew one of my buddies right over. BKOB

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    Hi all,
    Does anyone have any idea how crowded the Fruita/GJ trails get during the weekend of the Fruita fat tire festival? Any ones in particular that should just be avoided? Or, is it just not that bad anywhere? Thanks!

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    Expect the 18 road trails to be crowded. The Kokepelli/Loma stuff will be a little more busy, Horsethief will most likely be crowded...but it usually is. If you ride the western Loma stuff there will be hardly anyone, like Mack's Ridge, Troy Built etc. Rabbit Valley will not be crowded. The Lunch Loops will be like a typical weekend in April, crowded at the bottom and people spread out further from the lot.
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    Great info, thanks! I haven't been in about 4 years and have been wanting to get PBR and the other new trails in. I'll have to get to 18 rd early that day. Thanks again.

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