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    Fall Flavor on Molas Pass, Durango

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    opps..somebody forget that its dark at 7pm?
    hope ya'll are ok.

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    So did those women leave you stranded or what????

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    They asked me for keys to my car, way down at the creek crossing heading west on Engine Creek Trail for shuttle back with my car at the turn off of 550 and Cascade creek, up to their truck on Molas pass, and yes, both of them left me to go get help. I told them we were on the wrong trail, that this wasn't a bike trail, there were no bike tracks.... ( Engine creek trail, more a foot path on Adventure 40 map) and that I was going back up Engine Creek Trail, going to take Engineer trail over to Coal Bank pass, going to head east until I hit highway 550. They decided to continue the wrong way, down steep nasty trail, both of them very tired, and it happened by chance to bump them into Cascade creek, where they rode all the way down to a cabin, and asked the guy if they could use his phone to call Search & Rescue. Only one of them had a cell phone, but no signal.
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    Great pics, sorry to hear about the bad part of it all!

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    I don't get it, so did you crash out below the turn off to coal bank and then had to turn back up Engineer pass trail? I would think the best thing to do would just walk down the coal bank trail and get on 550 and ask someone for help, but if you were significantly below that turn off, I can see where the problem is.

    Going down from the turnoff to coal bank all the way down to cascade creek when it's getting dark would not be fun.

    I know it's the lesser of two evils, but I think the ladies made the right call, if only one of them rode down when it was getting dark, got herself lost, then you have multiple people lost on the trail.

    BTW, I am jealous, it's been 5+ years since I have done that trail, I hope to do it again on of these years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kokothemonkey
    I don't get it, so did you crash out below the turn off to coal bank and then had to turn back up Engineer pass trail? I would think the best thing to do would just walk down the coal bank trail and get on 550 and ask someone for help, but if you were significantly below that turn off, I can see where the problem is.

    Going down from the turnoff to coal bank all the way down to cascade creek when it's getting dark would not be fun.

    I know it's the lesser of two evils, but I think the ladies made the right call, if only one of them rode down when it was getting dark, got herself lost, then you have multiple people lost on the trail.

    BTW, I am jealous, it's been 5+ years since I have done that trail, I hope to do it again on of these years.
    You have to read carefully, we were to do Engineer trail to Engineer mountain, not Engine Creek trail to Cascade creek trail. Too many trails with the name Engine on them up there, in some way, shape or form, for someone not from around the area and intimately familiar with the trail system. We were all first timers. We went west on Engine Creek Trail, instead of South on Engineer Trail. Women suck at map reading and orientation. Heading west, into the sun, late in the day was what told me it was the wrong trail, plus the map indicated we were in need to do some hike a bike on Engineer trail getting over to Coal Bank Pass, heading south. I went down and crashed on Engine Creek trail, about 300 yards east and above the creek crossing for Engine Creek. Both of the girls didn't even know where they were on the map, I was the only one with a Garmin Edge 305 GPS with bread crumb map to see where we'd been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoulderfu
    So did those women leave you stranded or what????
    Pretty much... Although injured and messed up, I was able to extract myself fully without any assistance from Search and Rescue, though there were times of getting lost on Deer Creek where the trail disappeared in front of me by a dry lake, so I opted out of that and decided Coal creek was the down and dirty shortest way to go. Huge amounts of blown over trees and dead fall to go around on that trail too. 2 tubes flatted on me, one about a mile from 550 on Coal Creek trail, replaced it with my spare, and that one failed on the road ride on my bike up at the top of Coal Bank pass, just as the downhill pavement section of 550 started, to get me back to Cascade Creek. Lot's and lots of walking, on cleated shoes.

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    I've heard this story a few times now and I still can't believe those chicks made you pay for breakfast.

    Karma is gonna fuk those girls up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bones get broke
    I've heard this story a few times now and I still can't believe those chicks made you pay for breakfast.

    Karma is gonna fuk those girls up.

    Maybe, maybe not. Time will tell.
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    Were they loose chicks?
    If so, then maybe shoulderfu can find one of them and get his bone on. Maybe he can even trap one in his basement of ill repute and cbrossman (aka "the gimp") will be able to touch her.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bones get broke
    Were they loose chicks?
    If so, then maybe shoulderfu can find one of them and get his bone on. Maybe he can even trap one in his basement of ill repute and cbrossman (aka "the gimp") will be able to touch her.




    .....just sayin'
    I'm going to hazard a guess that one of them was alternative lifestyle and wouldn't appreciate being touched.
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    Oh yeah Karma gonna get em' eventually.
    And Bones,I am still mad at you!!....how dare you not tell me about the "special hottie friend" that was in town last week.I would have made it to moab even if only to see her in that bikini! I thought we were friends man????

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    So is Durango a lot like Mammoth Mountain? You never lose your girlfriend, you just lose your place in line to tap the well next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoulderfu
    Oh yeah Karma gonna get em' eventually.
    And Bones,I am still mad at you!!....how dare you not tell me about the "special hottie friend" that was in town last week.I would have made it to moab even if only to see her in that bikini! I thought we were friends man????
    She had that on nearly every afternoon. We'd get back from a ride, she'd hit the tent and emerge in the bikini.
    That sh!t was brutal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bones get broke
    She had that on nearly every afternoon. We'd get back from a ride, she'd hit the tent and emerge in the bikini.
    That sh!t was brutal.
    Try riding sweep for 2 fricken days straight, staring at the back end of the Vogue Sisters all fricken day long and then busting up your preferred arm... and only then will you know the true definition of "That sh!t was brutal."
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    Try riding sweep for 2 fricken days straight, staring at the back end of the Vogue Sisters all fricken day long and then busting up your preferred arm... and only then will you know the true definition of "That sh!t was brutal."
    Don't tell me you're not familiar with "the stranger". C'mon man, any perv. worth worth his or her salt (or porn collection) is well versed in this technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bones get broke
    Don't tell me you're not familiar with "the stranger". C'mon man, any perv. worth worth his or her salt (or porn collection) is well versed in this technique.
    You Alaskans are an industrious lot. Besides, it's safer for them to think you're a dirty old man than to leave snail tracks on her blanket and all over the mattress in the back of her truck as hard evidence. Think "Devil with the Blue Dress on" and Mr. President. They'd never look at me the same. I can always say I took her out for breakfast the next morning and I paid for a room with her, though.... and I wouldn't be lying. The rest, however would be full speculation, like the walk of shame.

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    Short on money...

    This story is pure gold.

    Those girls deserved a:


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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    Short on money...

    This story is pure gold.

    Those girls deserved a:



    Damn! LMFAO!!!!!!

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    lol..maybe a facefuk..what a bunch of ****s

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    You have to read carefully, we were to do Engineer trail to Engineer mountain, not Engine Creek trail to Cascade creek trail. Too many trails with the name Engine on them up there, in some way, shape or form, for someone not from around the area and intimately familiar with the trail system. We were all first timers. We went west on Engine Creek Trail, instead of South on Engineer Trail. Women suck at map reading and orientation. Heading west, into the sun, late in the day was what told me it was the wrong trail, plus the map indicated we were in need to do some hike a bike on Engineer trail getting over to Coal Bank Pass, heading south. I went down and crashed on Engine Creek trail, about 300 yards east and above the creek crossing for Engine Creek. Both of the girls didn't even know where they were on the map, I was the only one with a Garmin Edge 305 GPS with bread crumb map to see where we'd been.

    It still seems fishy to me. So did you want search and rescue to get you or were you wanting to spend the night out there? It seems pretty weak to me that you are calling the ladies out on their navigating when you couldn't even find your own way and you were the one with the GPS.


    I used to do that ride all the time by myself, down to cascade creek and I was fully aware that I might spend the night if my bike broke, or I crashed. You are setting yourself up for disaster if you expect to be babysat in the high country if you get injured.

    It sounds like some of their behavior was shady for sure, but cmon you have to man up and take care of yourself at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kokothemonkey
    It still seems fishy to me. So did you want search and rescue to get you or were you wanting to spend the night out there? It seems pretty weak to me that you are calling the ladies out on their navigating when you couldn't even find your own way and you were the one with the GPS.


    I used to do that ride all the time by myself, down to cascade creek and I was fully aware that I might spend the night if my bike broke, or I crashed. You are setting yourself up for disaster if you expect to be babysat in the high country if you get injured.

    It sounds like some of their behavior was shady for sure, but cmon you have to man up and take care of yourself at some point.

    My actions dispel your thought process and words. It's very easy to sit there on the mountain, do nothing, and hope to get rescued. It's a lot harder to get your butt off the mountain while injured on a moonlit night before day break, and not deal with potential dehydration and a case of hypothermia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kokothemonkey
    I used to do that ride all the time by myself, down to cascade creek and I was fully aware that I might spend the night if my bike broke, or I crashed. You are setting yourself up for disaster if you expect to be babysat in the high country if you get injured.
    Spending the night in that area after you busted your rig or your body is quite possibly the worst thing that you could do.

    Yeah, Randy made a poor decision by following those chicks down the wrong trail but he also showed significant grit by grinding it out in the dark and getting himself down under his own steam. Remember, he had little knowledge of the trails up there and it was dark. Sure he made a few mistakes but he perservered and took care of himself.
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    Interesting story even if incomplete...

    why were you riding with these two? were they your friends or did you just hook up for the shuttle.

    Sucks one or both didn't stay with you to walk you out. I think in that situation walking out would be the best option.

    Did you break your collar bone? Its not clear if you did or didn't. Just because she is a nurse doesn't mean she knows first aid.

    Why is it their fault that you paid for half of the hotel room and slept in the truck? and that you paid for their breakfast? Wasn't that your choice?

    Shitty situation that you got injured, but from your description of the events it sounds like you put yourself in the position to get used.

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