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    Best way to keep a trail off the radar?

    Pretty sure this isn't it:



    99.9% of the people that rode past this spot never, ever knew there was a trail there. Willing to bet it's getting ridden (and walked) exponentially more now than ever before.

    Negative bonus points for the implicit (and utterly illogical) threat.

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    I'm gonna call this a fake picture. Shopped to all hell and back.
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    Posting on MTBR certainly helps the cause.



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    The cause was lost when they installed the sign.

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    most people ride right past that sign. if they do look to see where it goes, i bet most people would think "oh, there's no trail here" and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snark7 View Post
    most people ride right past that sign. if they do look to see where it goes, i bet most people would think "oh, there's no trail here" and move on.
    The number of tire tracks on it the past ~month would suggest otherwise.

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    You want to keep people off an illegal trail? Destroy it. Obscure the tread, drop logs, big rocks, and vegetation on it, replant vegetation, etc. You'll have to do this for more than just a couple hundred feet of the trail too. You should also not provide support/cover for illegal trail builders.

    If what you're trying to say is "here is a bandit trail and I only want me and my select and worthy brahs to ride it", good luck with that. 95% of "secret" trails do not stay secret for very long, this was true even before the interwebz and is doubly true now.

    The solution - work within the system for legal trails

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    The number of tire tracks on it the past ~month would suggest otherwise.
    yeah, and it's probably all the people who know it and usually ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm View Post
    You want to keep people off an illegal trail? Destroy it. Obscure the tread, drop logs, big rocks, and vegetation on it, replant vegetation, etc. You'll have to do this for more than just a couple hundred feet of the trail too. You should also not provide support/cover for illegal trail builders.

    If what you're trying to say is "here is a bandit trail and I only want me and my select and worthy brahs to ride it", good luck with that. 95% of "secret" trails do not stay secret for very long, this was true even before the interwebz and is doubly true now.

    The solution - work within the system for legal trails
    Thanks for the preaching. The system is flawed, and working within it is, at best, frustrating and pointless.

    But that's not what my post was about.

    This trail has existed more or less unchanged for a long time. Friends that were born and raised here say it was there when they were kids, 40+ years ago. Old stock driveway. I've ridden it 4 or 5 times over the last ~15 years and it is, if you're in the mood for real exposure combined with slow speed chunk, good.

    Each time I've ridden it I've seen evidence that others were riding it, but the tracks were old--weeks at least. I've checked in on it (but not ridden it) thrice in the last month and it looks to me like it's getting ridden multiple times per day.

    Hence this post. Posting a writ-large sign to alert folks of something they were unaware of is a good way to do exactly that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snark7 View Post
    yeah, and it's probably all the people who know it and usually ride it.
    This is possible.

    Butů

    I used to ride it once every 4-5 years before it was signed or closed. Since the signage I haven't ridden it. So based on my sample of one, the opposite seems to be happening.

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    It's a good example of the Streisand Effect:Streisand effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm View Post

    The solution - work within the system for legal trails
    I dunno - historically the trail development in the Grand Valley/Moab portion of the world would indicate otherwise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    This is possible.

    Butů

    I used to ride it once every 4-5 years before it was signed or closed. Since the signage I haven't ridden it. So based on my sample of one, the opposite seems to be happening.
    i know three people who rode it in the last three weeks. i can think of a few times its been ridden this year, by the same four or so people.

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    When you live in an area where the pizza shop, the bike shop, the shuttle service, the wheel builder, and everyone else in town all make a livelyhood off of drawling thousands of cyclists to an area it's going to be on the radar.

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