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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

    I've see you twice on the trails and the next time I'm climbing and hear you say this to me, I will wave you through so you can ride into my clothesline and then you'll get a nice kick to the groin. You're an idiot.

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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

    Where was this tough guy?


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    yeah, where is that loser riding?

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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

    Guess my lack of commas mislead. My tough guy reference was to the topic starter. I find it amusing you would rant about this as its no big deal. I make it a point to yield those coming down as I'm going up, it's much easier that way. Courteous going down when I run into climbers. Simple things. You say you would close line this dude going down next time well as most xc spandex wearers are the majority of complainers towards these downhill rebels. I seriously doubt you have the upper body strength to accomplish such task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcjonessnp175 View Post
    Guess my lack of commas mislead. My tough guy reference was to the topic starter. I find it amusing you would rant about this as its no big deal. I make it a point to yield those coming down as I'm going up, it's much easier that way. Courteous going down when I run into climbers. Simple things. You say you would close line this dude going down next time well as most xc spandex wearers are the majority of complainers towards these downhill rebels. I seriously doubt you have the upper body strength to accomplish such task.

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    Oh geez, here we go again.

    And for the record, it's NOT easier to yield to the downhill rider. If you're a crappy climber, like me, getting started again up hill is FAR, FAR harder than getting started going down again. And, cleaning a tough climb is often more rewarding than ripping it back down. That's why the uphill rider has the right of way.

    So it's not "cool and courteous" to yield to downhill. In fact, since the downhill rider so desperately trying to get the right of way is telling the uphill rider to "yield" - that is, give up their right of way - he KNOWS it's his responsibility to let the uphill guy have the line.

    Demanding the right of way when you are going downhill (obviously on a non-directional trail here) is the opposite of cool and courteous. It's selfish, disrespectful and simply being a douchebag.

    Then again, so is threatening to clothesline someone... though we all harbor the thought about someone we think is being a dick on the trail!
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    I'm with the OP.
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    Oh geez, here we go again.
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    No matter who is in the right, if someone's being a d***, I say clothes line 'em.

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    Or turn around and catch up to them and tell them your mind instead of going all WWF and saying "next time" and "clothesline" instead of just being a big boy and doing it on the spot. Nut up or shut up, hope you dont end up getting your ass kicked.

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    Or just do what I do....Yell STRAVA!!! going up or down, its the universal code to get the hell out of my way! LMAO

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    MTB101 - always yield for noob chicks going downhill.
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    Dick move.

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    Uphill always has right of way. If a guy wants to make up his own rules, he should buy his own mountain.

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    I'm with the OP as well, other than the clothes line thing. You can yield to the DH rider all you want, the climbing rider still has the ROW.

    It's funny cause you guys who yield to the DH rider, I'll take it and have taken the yield. Then on the very next climb still I'll expect the next DH rider to yield to me. Cool.
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    Well, I ALWAYS have the right of way. So bow down and yield to me.

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    I can never watch that whole video (tried a few times).

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    Yielding to the downhill rider? LOL sure.

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    No need to fire up the kitty cannon just yet. This thread has entertainment potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmac View Post
    I can never watch that whole video (tried a few times).
    Someone needs to put together a remix of that. I just feel sorry for the chick that dates her.
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    It's not a concrete ruling to me. Each situation is different. To me, if I'm bombing it and it looks like the guy is struggling up, I'm gonna yield and offer some encouragement. If the dude looks like he's out training, same thing, but if it looks like a dude out for a stroll on his bike and he's just trying to get to the top to turn around and bomb like me, and it looks like he may try to yield to me, I keep on it. It's common sense and every situation is different. Now, a horse, I always yield to. The damn things scare the hell outta me.

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    Yes lots of different situations, sometimes the uphill rider will want to take a break anyway and wave the DH rider through. Fine, but the DH rider should never try to force the issue and make the uphiller yield. That's NOT cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john.b View Post
    If a guy wants to make up his own rules, he should buy his own mountain.
    So true. On my mountain if you try to roll the double jump you get kicked off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottap2003 View Post
    It's not a concrete ruling to me. Each situation is different. To me, if I'm bombing it and it looks like the guy is struggling up, I'm gonna yield and offer some encouragement. If the dude looks like he's out training, same thing, but if it looks like a dude out for a stroll on his bike and he's just trying to get to the top to turn around and bomb like me, and it looks like he may try to yield to me, I keep on it. It's common sense and every situation is different. Now, a horse, I always yield to. The damn things scare the hell outta me.
    exactly, half the time when im riding down the guy riding up yields way ahead of time and in that case, of course im not going to yield to him, ill keep riding past him. a lot of times you'll see like-minded people and get a little closer, see if he yields, (most the time he does) and if he doesnt, i do. if the guys spandexed out charging uphill i know he's gonna be mr. rules, by the book guy, and ill yield to him.

    when im trail running i always yield to bikers, it makes soooo much more sense.

    common sense works a lot better than blindly following regulations that dont make sense and probably half the bikers disagree with. i never just charge downhill and expect someone to yield, if its uncertain ill usually be the one to yield and i always slow down a good bit even if it is obvious they're yielding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycastlerock View Post
    Someone needs to put together a remix of that. I just feel sorry for the chick that dates her.
    she sure is wearing a whole lotta body armor for what appears to be the worlds smoothest downhill track.


    and everyone knows they shouldn't stop in the middle of the trail... or most people know it. If you are going to stop, you need to pull to the side. duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsa101 View Post
    blindly following regulations that dont make sense and probably half the bikers disagree with.
    Word! This is EXACTLY how I feel about red lights. I mean, I know that half the other drivers out there agree with me. It just doesn't make sense to stop at a red all the time. I just use common sense, if it looks like some same minded driver may yield to me when he has the green... I go for it!

    Same thing with the left lane. Passing lane, pfft! I set the cruise at 54 and just enjoy... while using common sense of course.
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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

    Reality is more people yield those coming down. Trails are trails enjoy them and be courteous and use common sense. Every interaction with other trail users is different and very fluid, must be flexible.


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    Reality? Whose? Your scientific study?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jugdish View Post
    Word! This is EXACTLY how I feel about red lights. I mean, I know that half the other drivers out there agree with me. It just doesn't make sense to stop at a red all the time. I just use common sense, if it looks like some same minded driver may yield to me when he has the green... I go for it!

    Same thing with the left lane. Passing lane, pfft! I set the cruise at 54 and just enjoy... while using common sense of course.

    I feel the same way. My friend is a commercial pilot and he figures that he can land on any runway at anytime. It doesn't matter if another plane is trying to land at the same time. The other pilot is probably like minded and will yield the runway to him.

    Its kinda the same thing with gates in open space. You really don't need to close them. The cows are slow and besides a less important person than you will probably close it after you go through it.

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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

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    really frustrating when people don't yield to uphill.

    lines always more important as an uphill rider to maintain traction, keep balanced and to ultimately keep the bike moving. harder to restart if you decide to yield. i typically just hold my line pretty good regardless of if they look like they're planning to stop/slow or not. being 6'5 and 200lbs....people tend to avoid head ons or shoulder rubs.

    i usually don't stop for uphill riders /completely/ as it seems unnecessary most of the time. but i do tell them to 'keep coming', slow way down, sometimes a dab with the right foot and yield more than enough trail if it's reasonable terrain, or stop and wait if its a tech section.

    i do get a lot of people that yield to downhill though. mostly guys who are out of shape and are looking for any reason to stop and take a break though. that's fine with me if you want....i'll keep riding downhill if it's obvious you're stopping. but don't expect that 'favor' to be returned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomit View Post
    i usually don't stop for uphill riders /completely/ as it seems unnecessary most of the time. but i do tell them to 'keep coming', slow way down, sometimes a dab with the right foot and yield more than enough trail if it's reasonable terrain, or stop and wait if its a tech section.
    Same here. And that is yielding. Yielding =/= stopping. If there isn't room I will fully stop and move off the trail.

    I was yelled at by an old lady (yes she was a senior citizen and actually yelled) because I didn't come to a stop as I went by on a wide section along the river at LOTB. But whatever, it was kind of funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomit View Post
    i do get a lot of people that yield to downhill though. mostly guys who are out of shape and are looking for any reason to stop and take a break though. that's fine with me if you want....i'll keep riding downhill if it's obvious you're stopping. but don't expect that 'favor' to be returned.
    This is me. If the chances are good that I'm going to have to pull over soon anyway because I am winded, I try to yield to folks coming down. Personally, I don't feel like you should be penalized on a fun bomb down the trail due to my lack of fitness. I guess you can consider it a favor, but maybe the karma will come back around someday.

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    Less full stop yields will help keep traffic moving along, keep it rolling and be safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jugdish View Post
    Word! This is EXACTLY how I feel about red lights. I mean, I know that half the other drivers out there agree with me. It just doesn't make sense to stop at a red all the time. I just use common sense, if it looks like some same minded driver may yield to me when he has the green... I go for it!

    Same thing with the left lane. Passing lane, pfft! I set the cruise at 54 and just enjoy... while using common sense of course.
    The irony of this thread is that some are serious and some sarcastic AND many will not know the difference!

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    Fish ON...and what a big biatch it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jugdish View Post
    Word! This is EXACTLY how I feel about red lights. I mean, I know that half the other drivers out there agree with me. It just doesn't make sense to stop at a red all the time. I just use common sense, if it looks like some same minded driver may yield to me when he has the green... I go for it!

    Same thing with the left lane. Passing lane, pfft! I set the cruise at 54 and just enjoy... while using common sense of course.
    thing is, red lights make sense, and id bet somewhere right around 99.9% of drivers think red lights are a good thing. 50 cars per minute running through an intersection is a lot different than encountering 1 or 2 other bikers every 40 minutes in extremely varied conditions and way more varied circumstances.

    having a black and white mentality in a mtn biking situation is just plain stupid, it makes no sense, there might be situations where it may be downright dangerous for the uphill rider to have to stop, there may be situations that are the opposite, saying rider A needs to yield to rider B 100% of the time does not work. ive never been yelled at, never had close calls, never had any kind of bad confrontation between me and other riders by approaching each situation i encounter with an open mind and not a stubborn by the book mentality.

    what does a spandexed out rider going downhill do when another rider riding uphill yields the right of way? just sit there like an idiot at a 4 way stop waving the other guy on while he waves you on?

    OP's approach obviously isnt working if he has to make a thread about it, so i think ill stick to my confrontation free approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountaingoatepics View Post
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    You can usually tell the age and education-level of people defending dumb ideas by their lack of punctuation and poor grammar.

    y u all yoos english 2 xplane ur point and capitalize words in beginning of sentences like nerds who likes syence eye don't have 2 do that because thatz stupid u all understand me n e wayz yielding and nahledge is fur looserz **
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    &quot;Yield to Downhill.  It's cool and it's courteous&quot;-1-1-01-dsc_3844toncont.jpg You could always try the passive-aggressive approach. Once downhill guy comes around again, quietly toss a few of these onto the trail before he passes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hopsalot View Post
    Less full stop yields will help keep traffic moving along, keep it rolling and be safe.
    I am still stuggling on how we acknowledge and yield the right of way on a 24-36in wide trail w/o stopping. The right of way belongs to the uphill rider and until he/she surrenders it, I have to yield. Slowing down and continuing on downhill does not indicate that I recognize the right of way, but the opposite, that I am proceeding regardless of who has the right of way.
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    We really need a sticky for these...

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    For the love of Christ, it's a useful convention and everybody knows that and it makes life easier and safer for everyone. Safety and courtesy always trump interrupting someone's gnarl.

    Incident 1 week ago, Sunday, at Hall Ranch about 11 am. Four of us (stangers) climbing, spread over about 100 feet. Downhill bomber yells, "I've got the right of way!" All four of yell back, "No you don't". Downhill rider totally ignores us and rides through us. typical.

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    Anyone who thinks the downhill rider has the right of way is a selfish dbag.
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    I can't tell who's more stupid, the f&*Ktards that think DH has the right of way, or those of you trying to reason with them.

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    so much anger from the tights croud..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsa101 View Post
    so much anger from the tights croud..
    So much poor grammar from the baggy crowd.

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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

    I yield to pretty much everyone, up or down. Chances are I need the rest. The real awkwardness comes in when we both yield and end up staring at each other waiting for the first move. Like a biker Mexican standoff.
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