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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

    I've see you twice on the trails and the next time I'm climbing and hear you say this to me, I will wave you through so you can ride into my clothesline and then you'll get a nice kick to the groin. You're an idiot.

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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

    Where was this tough guy?


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    yeah, where is that loser riding?

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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

    Guess my lack of commas mislead. My tough guy reference was to the topic starter. I find it amusing you would rant about this as its no big deal. I make it a point to yield those coming down as I'm going up, it's much easier that way. Courteous going down when I run into climbers. Simple things. You say you would close line this dude going down next time well as most xc spandex wearers are the majority of complainers towards these downhill rebels. I seriously doubt you have the upper body strength to accomplish such task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcjonessnp175 View Post
    Guess my lack of commas mislead. My tough guy reference was to the topic starter. I find it amusing you would rant about this as its no big deal. I make it a point to yield those coming down as I'm going up, it's much easier that way. Courteous going down when I run into climbers. Simple things. You say you would close line this dude going down next time well as most xc spandex wearers are the majority of complainers towards these downhill rebels. I seriously doubt you have the upper body strength to accomplish such task.

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    Oh geez, here we go again.

    And for the record, it's NOT easier to yield to the downhill rider. If you're a crappy climber, like me, getting started again up hill is FAR, FAR harder than getting started going down again. And, cleaning a tough climb is often more rewarding than ripping it back down. That's why the uphill rider has the right of way.

    So it's not "cool and courteous" to yield to downhill. In fact, since the downhill rider so desperately trying to get the right of way is telling the uphill rider to "yield" - that is, give up their right of way - he KNOWS it's his responsibility to let the uphill guy have the line.

    Demanding the right of way when you are going downhill (obviously on a non-directional trail here) is the opposite of cool and courteous. It's selfish, disrespectful and simply being a douchebag.

    Then again, so is threatening to clothesline someone... though we all harbor the thought about someone we think is being a dick on the trail!

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    I'm with the OP.
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    No matter who is in the right, if someone's being a d***, I say clothes line 'em.

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    Or turn around and catch up to them and tell them your mind instead of going all WWF and saying "next time" and "clothesline" instead of just being a big boy and doing it on the spot. Nut up or shut up, hope you dont end up getting your ass kicked.

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    Or just do what I do....Yell STRAVA!!! going up or down, its the universal code to get the hell out of my way! LMAO

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    MTB101 - always yield for noob chicks going downhill.
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    Uphill always has right of way. If a guy wants to make up his own rules, he should buy his own mountain.

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    I'm with the OP as well, other than the clothes line thing. You can yield to the DH rider all you want, the climbing rider still has the ROW.

    It's funny cause you guys who yield to the DH rider, I'll take it and have taken the yield. Then on the very next climb still I'll expect the next DH rider to yield to me. Cool.
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    Well, I ALWAYS have the right of way. So bow down and yield to me.

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    I can never watch that whole video (tried a few times).

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    Yielding to the downhill rider? LOL sure.

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    No need to fire up the kitty cannon just yet. This thread has entertainment potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmac View Post
    I can never watch that whole video (tried a few times).
    Someone needs to put together a remix of that. I just feel sorry for the chick that dates her.
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    It's not a concrete ruling to me. Each situation is different. To me, if I'm bombing it and it looks like the guy is struggling up, I'm gonna yield and offer some encouragement. If the dude looks like he's out training, same thing, but if it looks like a dude out for a stroll on his bike and he's just trying to get to the top to turn around and bomb like me, and it looks like he may try to yield to me, I keep on it. It's common sense and every situation is different. Now, a horse, I always yield to. The damn things scare the hell outta me.

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    Yes lots of different situations, sometimes the uphill rider will want to take a break anyway and wave the DH rider through. Fine, but the DH rider should never try to force the issue and make the uphiller yield. That's NOT cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john.b View Post
    If a guy wants to make up his own rules, he should buy his own mountain.
    So true. On my mountain if you try to roll the double jump you get kicked off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottap2003 View Post
    It's not a concrete ruling to me. Each situation is different. To me, if I'm bombing it and it looks like the guy is struggling up, I'm gonna yield and offer some encouragement. If the dude looks like he's out training, same thing, but if it looks like a dude out for a stroll on his bike and he's just trying to get to the top to turn around and bomb like me, and it looks like he may try to yield to me, I keep on it. It's common sense and every situation is different. Now, a horse, I always yield to. The damn things scare the hell outta me.
    exactly, half the time when im riding down the guy riding up yields way ahead of time and in that case, of course im not going to yield to him, ill keep riding past him. a lot of times you'll see like-minded people and get a little closer, see if he yields, (most the time he does) and if he doesnt, i do. if the guys spandexed out charging uphill i know he's gonna be mr. rules, by the book guy, and ill yield to him.

    when im trail running i always yield to bikers, it makes soooo much more sense.

    common sense works a lot better than blindly following regulations that dont make sense and probably half the bikers disagree with. i never just charge downhill and expect someone to yield, if its uncertain ill usually be the one to yield and i always slow down a good bit even if it is obvious they're yielding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycastlerock View Post
    Someone needs to put together a remix of that. I just feel sorry for the chick that dates her.
    she sure is wearing a whole lotta body armor for what appears to be the worlds smoothest downhill track.


    and everyone knows they shouldn't stop in the middle of the trail... or most people know it. If you are going to stop, you need to pull to the side. duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsa101 View Post
    blindly following regulations that dont make sense and probably half the bikers disagree with.
    Word! This is EXACTLY how I feel about red lights. I mean, I know that half the other drivers out there agree with me. It just doesn't make sense to stop at a red all the time. I just use common sense, if it looks like some same minded driver may yield to me when he has the green... I go for it!

    Same thing with the left lane. Passing lane, pfft! I set the cruise at 54 and just enjoy... while using common sense of course.
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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

    Reality is more people yield those coming down. Trails are trails enjoy them and be courteous and use common sense. Every interaction with other trail users is different and very fluid, must be flexible.


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    Reality? Whose? Your scientific study?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jugdish View Post
    Word! This is EXACTLY how I feel about red lights. I mean, I know that half the other drivers out there agree with me. It just doesn't make sense to stop at a red all the time. I just use common sense, if it looks like some same minded driver may yield to me when he has the green... I go for it!

    Same thing with the left lane. Passing lane, pfft! I set the cruise at 54 and just enjoy... while using common sense of course.

    I feel the same way. My friend is a commercial pilot and he figures that he can land on any runway at anytime. It doesn't matter if another plane is trying to land at the same time. The other pilot is probably like minded and will yield the runway to him.

    Its kinda the same thing with gates in open space. You really don't need to close them. The cows are slow and besides a less important person than you will probably close it after you go through it.

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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

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    really frustrating when people don't yield to uphill.

    lines always more important as an uphill rider to maintain traction, keep balanced and to ultimately keep the bike moving. harder to restart if you decide to yield. i typically just hold my line pretty good regardless of if they look like they're planning to stop/slow or not. being 6'5 and 200lbs....people tend to avoid head ons or shoulder rubs.

    i usually don't stop for uphill riders /completely/ as it seems unnecessary most of the time. but i do tell them to 'keep coming', slow way down, sometimes a dab with the right foot and yield more than enough trail if it's reasonable terrain, or stop and wait if its a tech section.

    i do get a lot of people that yield to downhill though. mostly guys who are out of shape and are looking for any reason to stop and take a break though. that's fine with me if you want....i'll keep riding downhill if it's obvious you're stopping. but don't expect that 'favor' to be returned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomit View Post
    i usually don't stop for uphill riders /completely/ as it seems unnecessary most of the time. but i do tell them to 'keep coming', slow way down, sometimes a dab with the right foot and yield more than enough trail if it's reasonable terrain, or stop and wait if its a tech section.
    Same here. And that is yielding. Yielding =/= stopping. If there isn't room I will fully stop and move off the trail.

    I was yelled at by an old lady (yes she was a senior citizen and actually yelled) because I didn't come to a stop as I went by on a wide section along the river at LOTB. But whatever, it was kind of funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomit View Post
    i do get a lot of people that yield to downhill though. mostly guys who are out of shape and are looking for any reason to stop and take a break though. that's fine with me if you want....i'll keep riding downhill if it's obvious you're stopping. but don't expect that 'favor' to be returned.
    This is me. If the chances are good that I'm going to have to pull over soon anyway because I am winded, I try to yield to folks coming down. Personally, I don't feel like you should be penalized on a fun bomb down the trail due to my lack of fitness. I guess you can consider it a favor, but maybe the karma will come back around someday.

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    Less full stop yields will help keep traffic moving along, keep it rolling and be safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jugdish View Post
    Word! This is EXACTLY how I feel about red lights. I mean, I know that half the other drivers out there agree with me. It just doesn't make sense to stop at a red all the time. I just use common sense, if it looks like some same minded driver may yield to me when he has the green... I go for it!

    Same thing with the left lane. Passing lane, pfft! I set the cruise at 54 and just enjoy... while using common sense of course.
    The irony of this thread is that some are serious and some sarcastic AND many will not know the difference!

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    Fish ON...and what a big biatch it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jugdish View Post
    Word! This is EXACTLY how I feel about red lights. I mean, I know that half the other drivers out there agree with me. It just doesn't make sense to stop at a red all the time. I just use common sense, if it looks like some same minded driver may yield to me when he has the green... I go for it!

    Same thing with the left lane. Passing lane, pfft! I set the cruise at 54 and just enjoy... while using common sense of course.
    thing is, red lights make sense, and id bet somewhere right around 99.9% of drivers think red lights are a good thing. 50 cars per minute running through an intersection is a lot different than encountering 1 or 2 other bikers every 40 minutes in extremely varied conditions and way more varied circumstances.

    having a black and white mentality in a mtn biking situation is just plain stupid, it makes no sense, there might be situations where it may be downright dangerous for the uphill rider to have to stop, there may be situations that are the opposite, saying rider A needs to yield to rider B 100% of the time does not work. ive never been yelled at, never had close calls, never had any kind of bad confrontation between me and other riders by approaching each situation i encounter with an open mind and not a stubborn by the book mentality.

    what does a spandexed out rider going downhill do when another rider riding uphill yields the right of way? just sit there like an idiot at a 4 way stop waving the other guy on while he waves you on?

    OP's approach obviously isnt working if he has to make a thread about it, so i think ill stick to my confrontation free approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountaingoatepics View Post
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    You can usually tell the age and education-level of people defending dumb ideas by their lack of punctuation and poor grammar.

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    &quot;Yield to Downhill.  It's cool and it's courteous&quot;-1-1-01-dsc_3844toncont.jpg You could always try the passive-aggressive approach. Once downhill guy comes around again, quietly toss a few of these onto the trail before he passes.
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopsalot View Post
    Less full stop yields will help keep traffic moving along, keep it rolling and be safe.
    I am still stuggling on how we acknowledge and yield the right of way on a 24-36in wide trail w/o stopping. The right of way belongs to the uphill rider and until he/she surrenders it, I have to yield. Slowing down and continuing on downhill does not indicate that I recognize the right of way, but the opposite, that I am proceeding regardless of who has the right of way.
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    For the love of Christ, it's a useful convention and everybody knows that and it makes life easier and safer for everyone. Safety and courtesy always trump interrupting someone's gnarl.

    Incident 1 week ago, Sunday, at Hall Ranch about 11 am. Four of us (stangers) climbing, spread over about 100 feet. Downhill bomber yells, "I've got the right of way!" All four of yell back, "No you don't". Downhill rider totally ignores us and rides through us. typical.

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    Anyone who thinks the downhill rider has the right of way is a selfish dbag.
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    I can't tell who's more stupid, the f&*Ktards that think DH has the right of way, or those of you trying to reason with them.

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    so much anger from the tights croud..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsa101 View Post
    so much anger from the tights croud..
    So much poor grammar from the baggy crowd.

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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

    I yield to pretty much everyone, up or down. Chances are I need the rest. The real awkwardness comes in when we both yield and end up staring at each other waiting for the first move. Like a biker Mexican standoff.
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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsa101 View Post
    what does a spandexed out rider going downhill do when another rider riding uphill yields the right of way? just sit there like an idiot at a 4 way stop waving the other guy on while he waves you on?
    So you are saying its stupid for the downhill rider to stop in the event that the uphill rider also stops and waves the downhill rider on? How about the downhill rider stop or put the brakes on and if waved through, put up a "thank you" wave and continue on at a safe and cautious speed until you pass the other rider.

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    I only ride downhill. Do I always have to yield? That sucks if I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokefork View Post
    I only ride downhill. Do I always have to yield? That sucks if I do.
    I believe the answer is yes.

    Where does one find these never ending downhill trails?

    You only ride lift served, or shuttle? Otherwise I don't understand how you only ride downhill.

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    So who is the tights crowd??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbrewer View Post
    So who is the tights crowd??



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    Quote Originally Posted by cjcrawford View Post

    Incident 1 week ago, Sunday, at Hall Ranch about 11 am. Four of us (stangers) climbing, spread over about 100 feet. Downhill bomber yells, "I've got the right of way!" All four of yell back, "No you don't". Downhill rider totally ignores us and rides through us. typical.

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    So funny that this comes up as often as it does. To all those who say things like "just use common sense" I'd ask, Who's common sense? Yours? Mine? The guy below you that you don't know? On multi use, multi directional trails, there have to be some rules/guidelines that the users of those trails understand and follow to keep the whole system from becoming a total clusterf**k.

    The long standing rule/guideline of descender yields to climber unless the climber chooses to relinquish the ROW is simple and makes sense. I'm sorry if that offends some of you guys who have "action sports" MTB videos as you point of reference of what MTB is all about, but you'll notice that those videos never show the rad dudes having to share the trail with anybody. Those videos are not the real world. In the real world, we do have to share the trail so we have to have to rules and an arbitrary "just use common sense" is not common sense, it's an excuse.

    If yo want to ride your bike without having to be concerned about anyone impeding your DH experience, go to a ski area.

    It's also funny that some of you still are concerned what other people wear and have to pull your stained and sticky biker fox photos from under your mattresses to giggle and snicker over.

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    I love the grammar police on the boards that think because they use a period in the right spot their opinion matters more. Im here to tell you in dicked up engrish that it does not!! Quit trying to intellectually bludgeon people and think it makes you better. So if you use proper grammar on the board, but ride slower then the bad engrish guy who is "cooler" or "better" in the mountain bike world. Dont just assume that intelligence and grammar go hand in hand. Having a extensive education does not make you smarter then the guy that got threw high school and went right to work. What if they were not able in life to have the same educational opportunities as yourself does that make them dummer then you? I think not, go hang your BS in underwater basket weaving above your desk and stroke your ego in the " grammar review board" and leave mountain biking discussions about mountain bikes not where punctuation marks are.

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    Re: "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

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    I climb in spandex then switch to baggies for the descents
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    Re: "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

    Whoa...
    What I think we have here is a failure too communicate...
    We're gonna have to have a ride off...
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    I've seen that video a time or 12... had he asked for her number it would have made the video! lol
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    The jerk was riding at Picture Rock and had a very condescending attitude and basically trying to evangelize his new rule to every climber he passed. For the record, i do yield to downhill riders on sweet downhill sections so they can enjoy. There's no way I would really clothesline the guy... Unless I had a jai alai cesta which would be tough to climb with. That GoPro vid would be awesome though.

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    see for me, I yield to those going up! because it's easier for me to stop then it is for ascending guys to start back up again! or a neutral pass with "hello's, good ride today! have a good one!"
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    go hang your BS in underwater basket weaving above your desk and stroke your ego in the " grammar review board" and leave mountain biking discussions about mountain bikes not where punctuation marks are.
    So what you're saying is don't write multiple paragraph responses about punctuation, education and grammar on a mountain bike discussion board? OK, got it.
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    I think not, go hang your BS in underwater basket weaving above your desk and stroke your ego in the " grammar review board" and leave mountain biking discussions about mountain bikes not where punctuation marks are.[/QUOTE]

    You ended your sentence with a preposition.
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    if i new this was a speling contest i wood have brat my ay game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm View Post
    To all those who say things like "just use common sense" I'd ask, Who's common sense?
    *I* am common sense. That's who.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    I love the grammar police on the boards that think because they use a period in the right spot their opinion matters more. Im here to tell you in dicked up engrish that it does not!! Quit trying to intellectually bludgeon people and think it makes you better. So if you use proper grammar on the board, but ride slower then the bad engrish guy who is "cooler" or "better" in the mountain bike world. Dont just assume that intelligence and grammar go hand in hand. Having a extensive education does not make you smarter then the guy that got threw high school and went right to work. What if they were not able in life to have the same educational opportunities as yourself does that make them dummer then you? I think not, go hang your BS in underwater basket weaving above your desk and stroke your ego in the " grammar review board" and leave mountain biking discussions about mountain bikes not where punctuation marks are.
    The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Otis Towns View Post
    I think not, go hang your BS in underwater basket weaving above your desk and stroke your ego in the " grammar review board" and leave mountain biking discussions about mountain bikes not where punctuation marks are.
    You ended your sentence with a preposition.
    I'll fix it -
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    Yield to uphill unless they wave you through, the trail is wide enough to go double (don't ride through the weeds) or they have given up on the climb and are walking their bikes. If can't ride the climb, don't punish other users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbodog13 View Post
    Yield to uphill unless they wave you through, the trail is wide enough to go double (don't ride through the weeds) or they have given up on the climb and are walking their bikes. If can't ride the climb, don't punish other users.
    Someone pushing a bike uphill is exactly the reason DH is suppossed to yield to uphill...

    It's not real difficult to be polite to other people out on a public trail. Everyone should yield to everyone.

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    From now on chains should be outlawed on bikes so the idea of yielding to an uphill rider will be, how you say, moot.
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbodog13 View Post
    Yield to uphill unless they wave you through, the trail is wide enough to go double (don't ride through the weeds) or they have given up on the climb and are walking their bikes. If can't ride the climb, don't punish other users.
    Punish? Dude, we're talking about riding bikes here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleTrail View Post
    Someone pushing a bike uphill is exactly the reason DH is suppossed to yield to uphill...
    How so? They are already off the bike. Most trails around here are easy to see someone coming. It's much less impact and much less of a pain for the person walking the climb to lean the bike out of the way.

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleTrail View Post
    It's not real difficult to be polite to other people out on a public trail. Everyone should yield to everyone. Everyone should yield to everyone.
    The way I see it, if you've given up, yield the trail and let other people enjoy the ride. Someone will return the favor on your way back down. Would you really want to be concentrating on a descent at Hall and have someone pushing the rock garden insist on coming through because they technically have the ROW? Everyone yield to everyone is a great way to generate more traffic, more side trails and wider trails. Yield does not = stop.

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    This thread brings the lulz like only the Karate Chicken used to.

    WWKCD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBitey View Post
    This thread brings the lulz like only the Karate Chicken used to.

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    I have batman style cable and grappling hook that I whip out when baggy kitted AM of DH types don't yield to the climber. With all that extra gangsta cloth flapping in the breeze and the extra metal of those triple clamp forks and 7" of suspension it's easy to snag them and bring them to a sudden stop.

    That'll learn them!

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    This thread shines a spotlight on the biggest issue with Front Range riding. Whiny fvcking *****es. Get over it. It's crowded. Nothing we can do about that. So chill out, ride fast and try not kill each other

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleTrail View Post
    Forget the kitten canon...this reminds me I haven't used the Biker Fox gun in a while.
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    A lot of highly traveled trails now have signs saying to yield to the uphill rider, so I normally take this as the rules. I am finally getting back in shape (separated shoulder) and can start wiping climbs again so I get annoyed if someone in full lycra or spandex doesn't stop. It's courtesy for all the other reasons mentioned, I do it on my way down for anything coming up, hikers or bikers. If we are all *******s about it then we won't have any places left to ride.

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    I'm selling my bikes and buying a mountain unicycle. Uni's don't figure in the yield rules. Strava here I come!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJTransplant View Post
    I get annoyed if someone in full lycra or spandex doesn't stop.
    But if they're wearing other kinds of clothing it's alright, right?

    Just sayin'... then again, I'm female so everyone passing me always acts like they have the right of way regardless of uphill or downhill!

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    Downhill riders yield to uphill riders. Simple and functional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooshee View Post
    But if they're wearing other kinds of clothing it's alright, right?

    Just sayin'... then again, I'm female so everyone passing me always acts like they have the right of way regardless of uphill or downhill!
    Sorry I should have included that too. But 99% of the issues I run into are from riders wearing full lycra or spandex gear so i tend to forget about people who don't wear it. But yes it is all riders that do this that piss me off.

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    Serious question. Do people wear lycra and spandex because it's comfortable, hard for me to grasp, or do they actually think they go faster because of less wind resistance. It really does look stupid on a mountain biker. Of course I grew up when mountain bikes were paper route bikes with coaster brakes, clipless pedals were for p*ssies, and helmets were not tolerated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokefork View Post
    Serious question. Do people wear lycra and spandex because it's comfortable
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokefork View Post
    Serious question. Do people wear lycra and spandex because it's comfortable, hard for me to grasp, or do they actually think they go faster because of less wind resistance. It really does look stupid on a mountain biker. Of course I grew up when mountain bikes were paper route bikes with coaster brakes, clipless pedals were for p*ssies, and helmets were not tolerated.
    Yep, back in the 80's I remember calling lycra shorts "rubber pants". Wore cotton t-shirts and daisy dukes. Nike Lava Domes (semi-boots) with clips and straps.

    At some point a friend of mine went over to the dark side and got a pair of lycra shorts. He was sold because they stayed out of the way (no hooking the cuff of your shorts on the nose of the saddle), didn't bind up on your thighs, and the chamois allowed you to sit the saddle for much longer comfortably.

    By the way, I kind of think Lycra and Spandex are basically two names for the same thing. Or two similar variations of stretchy nylon fabric.

    I know of roadies who think of wind resistance as an issue, but that's never a reason I used for wearing lycra. Comfort, freedom of motion.

    I went through my period of wearing lycra jerseys with three pockets, color, logos, etc and lycra shorts. Superhero outfit as my ex-GF called it. Then I entered my wool jersey phase. Typically baggies and wool, but always with lyrcra shorts on underneath the baggies. I can't imagine not choosing to have a high-quality chamois. But maybe if you don't ride very far? Or you do the fraternity-boy ass in the air riding where you never sit on your saddle? I can't imaging riding for over an hour without a good chamois. And honestly, unless it's riding the townie to do errands, I never ride less than about 90 minutes.

    Nowadays if I'm doing a short-ish ride I'll wear baggies because I won't have a pack for keys and such. If it's a short after work ride, I'll typically wear whatever t-shirt I wore to work. When I'm doing one of my real rides, 5-25 hours of saddle time, I have no interest in having baggies on. The extra friction on my thighs is annoying and just adds to the friction of every pedal stroke. If you never pedal for more than 2 hours at one time, sure, wear baggies. Wear blue jeans. Whatever.

    All my superhero jerseys sit on a high shelf now. I almost never wear them. I have a collection of Marmot and Patagonia synthetic t-shirts I wear for longer stuff. No back pockets to bug me with a pack grinding the seams into my back. Modern wicking fabric. Comfortable. If it's chilly weather, I'll pull out some wool. Don't like wearing wool under a pack any more though.

    But yeah, it's comfortable. You don't go faster because of aerodynamics, you go faster because you're comfortable.

    And being an a$$hole has nothing to do with what you wear. I've seen d-bags in all manner of apparel.
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    I wear a chamois underneath my shorts for sure. I wear cotten t-shirts and an old pair of beat up shorts. Never had issues with getting stuck on the seat etc. Either way whatever is comfortable for you wear it. I was just stating, it's been my experience that most of the a$$hats i meet on the trail are wearing it. :-) If you're nice I don't judge.

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    I started out wearing baggies, but now do the lycra thing. I like it, it is more comfortable to me and I find that I don't get hung up on my seat. I do have some 3/4 length baggies I wear in colder weather, though.

    But I am nice and always politely ask to pass and yield to uphill riders

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    I wear lycra because I hate wearing clothes, period. Lycra is as close to riding naked as I can get I always yield to uphill riders unless they wave me through and I'm nice to everyone on the trail. Lycra doesn't always = jerk. In fact, I think that the only 2 or 3 grumpy mtb'ers that I've encountered were wearing baggies.

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    I just think mtbr's have an image to uphold. Salt of the earth, that kind of stuff. Rebels, noncomformists, crazy. All this silky, tight fitting clothing just doesn't seem right. Everyone is a better rider than me, but I LOOK like a mountain biker.

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    "Yield to Downhill. It's cool and it's courteous"

    Say one runs into riders wearing actual asshats and carrying their gear in backpack sized douchebags? What say you then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBitey View Post
    Say one runs into riders wearing actual asshats and carrying their gear in backpack sized douchebags? What say you then?
    Easy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokefork View Post
    I just think mtbr's have an image to uphold. Salt of the earth, that kind of stuff. Rebels, noncomformists, crazy. All this silky, tight fitting clothing just doesn't seem right. Everyone is a better rider than me, but I LOOK like a mountain biker.
    So mtb'ers should conform to the noncomforming look?

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