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    What if...?

    What if you had complete control of R&D at a major brand and could come invent or improve anything on your bike (given the parameters of reality and physics)?


    What would it be?

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    A fully sealed internal drivetrain that is a viable replacement for the current chain system.

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    I wish Rohloff would do a lighter 8 or 9 speed hub, I would love to ditch the rear der forever.

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    A sweet sensor in the front hub / brake that when it senses an endo it anti-locks the brake to help you out of the jam! It's either that or I get skills, and THAT ain't happening.

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    A KERS integrated into my rear hub to help my fat, lazy a$$ up the hills.
    Really coulda used it this morning!
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    Why are we still pressing/pounding headsets in and out of the headtube? They should be threaded like BB...
    This won't hurt a bit...

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    A beer that tastes great AND is less filling. Wow. That would be the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by santaheckler
    Why are we still pressing/pounding headsets in and out of the headtube? They should be threaded like BB...
    I was going to agree, but I remembered the newest thing is 30mm bb with press in cups. I think it all has to do with radial versus side load. That's why they don't use threads on a headset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by santaheckler
    Why are we still pressing/pounding headsets in and out of the headtube? They should be threaded like BB...
    Actually, the opposite is true. BB bearings should be press-fit. It eliminates the need for external cups, and press-fit bearings don't come loose like threaded pieces can. And the trend is moving in that direction with the new designs like the Cannondale BB30. Threads are fragile little things, lots of perfectly good frames have died young due to seized BB's and stripped threads. And imagine if your headset cups came loose and developed play mid-ride like BB shells often do -- that'd trash your head tube in a hurry.

    I wish someone would manufacture an affordable kit for tapping and facing. Them things is too dang pricey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manmountain Dense
    I wish someone would manufacture an affordable kit for tapping and facing. Them things is too dang pricey.
    Ok, even though it has nothing to do with developing anything new, I wish there was a law that forced all frame manufacturers to face their head tubes, bb and disc mounts prior to shipping them. And they had to do a good job of it, too.

    I think I would work on mating the carbon belt drive to a lighter weight internal geared hub. I think they do this now with Rollhoffs but I'm not sure, and those hubs are heavy.

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    Do you work for Trek? lol. Cause I've often wondered about their R&D. Sounds like fishing to me...haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka
    Ok, even though it has nothing to do with developing anything new, I wish there was a law that forced all frame manufacturers to face their head tubes, bb and disc mounts prior to shipping them. And they had to do a good job of it, too.
    +1 on that.

    Maybe Obama will tackle that after he fixes the BCS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by santaheckler
    Why are we still pressing/pounding headsets in and out of the headtube? They should be threaded like BB...
    Didn't head sets used to be threaded? I'm pretty sure they sucked, and needed constant tightening, and /or re-threading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbjedi1
    Do you work for Trek? lol. Cause I've often wondered about their R&D. Sounds like fishing to me...haha.
    No, was just looking at a mag featuring interbike and thought, "Some of these new designs are good but a lot are really worthless." Made me wonder what I would come up with if I had the opportunity. While I get it that the manufacturers have to produce new selling points, there are really not that many innovations.

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    Ok, I concede on the threaded headset idea... how about a 14mm thru axle, you know, for even less weight on the axle?
    This won't hurt a bit...

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    snake gaiters that fully enclose the shoe and better sunrags for the head and arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka
    No, was just looking at a mag featuring interbike and thought, "Some of these new designs are good but a lot are really worthless." Made me wonder what I would come up with if I had the opportunity. While I get it that the manufacturers have to produce new selling points, there are really not that many innovations.
    Yeah, It's a big risk to bring a truly innovative product to the market. The really innovative stuff takes years to see a ROI, so the big companies are nervous about doing it. Especially now when budgets are tighter.
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    My god... I hope Santa cruz and Specialized are reading this!!!

    I haven't found the perfect DH bike yet. However, I have speculated that bliss would be:

    A specialized Demo 8 with a VPP (V10) rear end. The fit, feel, HA and length on the Demo is awesome, but the rear suspension is garbage. A DH bike should have a rear-ward axle path that soaks up bumps in the X direction as the Y direction. I minored in Physics, and it only makes sense (especially on DH bikes). This is why the V10 goes faster through rock gardens and the Demo comes to a halt. However, the V10 needs to be lengthened just a tad with a HA that isn't so freakin' steep!

    That would be heaven, IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by santaheckler
    Ok, I concede on the threaded headset idea... how about a 14mm thru axle, you know, for even less weight on the axle?
    ahhh.... the 15mm marketing ploy...

    15mm: For XC riders that won't admit to their sh!tty fork but don't have to admit that DH forks are far superior.

    Yes, we can undercut the 15mm market by introducing 13.5 (gotta have it in an odd size) thru axle. oh, perhaps we should make it bolt on with titanium nuts!

    I wish I had titanium nuts... I'd be a whole lot more bold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure
    My god... I hope Santa cruz and Specialized are reading this!!!

    I haven't found the perfect DH bike yet. However, I have speculated that bliss would be:

    A specialized Demo 8 with a VPP (V10) rear end. The fit, feel, HA and length on the Demo is awesome, but the rear suspension is garbage. A DH bike should have a rear-ward axle path that soaks up bumps in the X direction as the Y direction. I minored in Physics, and it only makes sense (especially on DH bikes). This is why the V10 goes faster through rock gardens and the Demo comes to a halt. However, the V10 needs to be lengthened just a tad with a HA that isn't so freakin' steep!

    That would be heaven, IMHO.
    If Schnauzers can get a someone to make a ti 575, then you could get your design made. Just remember that others want to use the V10 for XC rides (Weir), and that means a steepish HA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka
    If Schnauzers can get a someone to make a ti 575, then you could get your design made. Just remember that others want to use the V10 for XC rides (Weir), and that means a steepish HA.
    yeah, well... if I had that kind of cash laying around.....
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    How 'bout suspension pivots that have flexible members instead of bearings. No friction, no maintenance, no grease, no squeak, and less weight. Yeti has it on one of their designs, but it barely flexes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godaddygo
    How 'bout suspension pivots that have flexible members instead of bearings. No friction, no maintenance, no grease, no squeak, and less weight. Yeti has it on one of their designs, but it barely flexes.
    They call it Titanium.
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