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    What Front Range Trail will be Ridable Tomorrow ?

    I have tomorrow off, since the house I was supposed to trim, is completely flooded.

    I know DBB drains fast, but I was thinking Crosier or Hall's Ranch. How ' bout W Mag ?

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    Are you planning to ride a bike or a kayak?

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    What Front Range Trail will be Ridable Tomorrow ?

    All boulder county open space and mountain park system is closed so forget anything around Boulder. West Mag will be a mud pit plus it would be very hard to get to anyway. Most canyon roads are washed out.

    My best guess wound be Buffalo Creek but I'm not sure how that would even hold up with all theirs rain.

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    I think the real question might now be which trails are rideable a month from now and which ones won't open until next season.... The flatter trails are going to be mud pits and the steeper trails are going to be washed away.

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    Stay off the trails its not even done raining yet.

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    I think the post was tongue in cheek but once people get past the immediate danger and clean up, dealing with trails will probably take years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm View Post
    I think the post was tongue in cheek but once people get past the immediate danger and clean up, dealing with trails will probably take years.
    ZRM how are things looking up your way?

    Last weekend trails were in great shape with some limited mud in spots. I am assuming things will need to dry out, but seems the Front Range got hit much harder by this system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steadyflow View Post
    ZRM how are things looking up your way?

    Last weekend trails were in great shape with some limited mud in spots. I am assuming things will need to dry out, but seems the Front Range got hit much harder by this system.
    It's very wet but no flooding. We get rain move through, then the sun comes out, then rain comes through again. Trails are probably best avoided right now, the ground is totally saturated and the water isn't soaking in. The periods of sun aren't enough to dry things out.

    For us it's uncomfortable and inconvenient, but not destructive or dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm View Post
    It's very wet but no flooding. We get rain move through, then the sun comes out, then rain comes through again. Trails are probably best avoided right now, the ground is totally saturated and the water isn't soaking in. The periods of sun aren't enough to dry things out.

    For us it's uncomfortable and inconvenient, but not destructive or dangerous.
    Thanks that is what I figured.....so many mushrooms out up there. I have never seen so many over the past month or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steadyflow View Post
    Thanks that is what I figured.....so many mushrooms out up there. I have never seen so many over the past month or so.
    Yeah, no doubt. I've seen wet summers like this past July and August, but I don't think I've seen it last this long into September before.

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    buffalo creek/colroado trail should be rideable, I don't think the rain has hit as hard out there and moisture would be great for the sand

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    Was thinking about riding up in Minturn tomorrow...think it will be ok to ride? My friend that lives up there says its not that bad? He doesn't bike much though...only when I'm there really.

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    I hate to even think about mountain biking right now, but I've got to get out of north Boulder for a little while. Has anyone been down around Buffalo Creek in the last day or so? I'd really like to get down there for a few hours of riding tomorrow and it'd be nice to get a first hand report before making that drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    I hate to even think about mountain biking right now, but I've got to get out of north Boulder for a little while. Has anyone been down around Buffalo Creek in the last day or so? I'd really like to get down there for a few hours of riding tomorrow and it'd be nice to get a first hand report before making that drive.
    SO on your page! I've got a week worth of work down in Durango where I won't have time to ride. Chances are I'm gonna prob be freaking out, and need to get in a fix before I leave!

    Edit: smmokan, SS just gave me a heads up that S Platte flows thru Pine Valley Ranch area, and that I should give JeffCo a shout to see if they're having issues w/ flooding up that way. I've got a msg out to them via their Contact Us form and waiting to hear back. I'll update when I get more info. But I kinda think it's cool by liqwid's remark from yesterday on the Apex thread...and that S Platte flows N.

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    There is plenty of trail nowhere near the platte and I dont think the rain has been heavy upstream of pine so it really is no issue. Even in the rain, BC is totally rideable as it sheds water and is not muck/mud. Its mostly decomposing granite or sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinjp View Post
    buffalo creek/colroado trail should be rideable, I don't think the rain has hit as hard out there and moisture would be great for the sand
    I spoke to a guy down there who is doing trail construction with COMBA this weekend and has been down for the past three days, he says its not been raining that hard down there, that rain doesn't start till the afternoon. I'm thinking of heading down there to help trail build and wanted to check in to see if they needed volunteers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm View Post
    It's very wet but no flooding. We get rain move through, then the sun comes out, then rain comes through again. Trails are probably best avoided right now, the ground is totally saturated and the water isn't soaking in. The periods of sun aren't enough to dry things out.

    For us it's uncomfortable and inconvenient, but not destructive or dangerous.
    Me and some buddies have Kenosha to Breck on the docket a week from tomorrow. Assuming next week is dry and sunny any thoughts on if it will be good to go?

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    Amazing what a couple of days of sun will do. Most trails will dry out quicker than people think.

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    MTBOASIS- that's assuming the trails are still there. I'm expecting the worse for some of them like Betasso, Walker, etc that run along creeks.

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    I realize the original post was probably in jest, but......Pueblo looks dry

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    A little off topic but doesnt it seem that we should have a better source for trail conditions than this outdated forum format. Maybe a social media hash tag system with user photos, or COMBA website (like other, much smaller, chapters in the country)

    I'm not smart enough to implement it, but it seems we can do better.

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    Well if people updated the BMA trail site (Trail Conditions | Boulder Mountainbike Alliance) then that would be a good source, but no one has updated it since this rain started. Usually it's pretty active in the Spring but I guess no one is thinking about it right now...

    EDIT: I just updated the status to closed for the Boulder trail systems and poor for the high mountain trails. As they improve or reopen, please update. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSH View Post
    Me and some buddies have Kenosha to Breck on the docket a week from tomorrow. Assuming next week is dry and sunny any thoughts on if it will be good to go?
    If it stops raining and the sun comes out for a few days it should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubstings View Post
    A little off topic but doesnt it seem that we should have a better source for trail conditions than this outdated forum format. Maybe a social media hash tag system with user photos, or COMBA website (like other, much smaller, chapters in the country)

    I'm not smart enough to implement it, but it seems we can do better.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheNormsk View Post
    Well if people updated the BMA trail site (Trail Conditions | Boulder Mountainbike Alliance) then that would be a good source, but no one has updated it since this rain started. Usually it's pretty active in the Spring but I guess no one is thinking about it right now...

    EDIT: I just updated the status to closed for the Boulder trail systems and poor for the high mountain trails. As they improve or reopen, please update. Thanks.
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    What Front Range Trail will be Ridable Tomorrow ?

    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    MTBOASIS- that's assuming the trails are still there. I'm expecting the worse for some of them like Betasso, Walker, etc that run along creeks.
    Betasso is really high up and drains well. It should be ok after a few days of sun, if you can get to it. It could have some gnarly washouts though, since it's halfway down the hill in some places. There's two zones that might have tricky hike-arounds after all the rain.

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    Any final thoughts on Buffalo Creek for Saturday?

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    BC is good to go!

    I have friends who've been down there this week and even today that say its not only rideable, but primo because of the rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubstings View Post
    A little off topic but doesnt it seem that we should have a better source for trail conditions than this outdated forum format. Maybe a social media hash tag system with user photos, or COMBA website (like other, much smaller, chapters in the country)

    I'm not smart enough to implement it, but it seems we can do better.
    Man I still think its amazing I can come here and get trail updates.
    I guess the definition of "Fast enough" has generational differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubstings View Post
    A little off topic but doesnt it seem that we should have a better source for trail conditions than this outdated forum format. Maybe a social media hash tag system with user photos, or COMBA website (like other, much smaller, chapters in the country)

    I'm not smart enough to implement it, but it seems we can do better.
    Many partial versions have been around for years but since they are so segmented the best option is using google search.

    So far apps like this have little payout so the interest is small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubstings View Post
    BC is good to go!

    I have friends who've been down there this week and even today that say its not only rideable, but primo because of the rain.

    That's well and good.

    But what is your recommended driving route from Ft. Collins to Buffalo ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubstings View Post
    A little off topic but doesnt it seem that we should have a better source for trail conditions than this outdated forum format. Maybe a social media hash tag system with user photos, or COMBA website (like other, much smaller, chapters in the country)

    I'm not smart enough to implement it, but it seems we can do better.
    We have that for the Boulder area stuff. People tweet conditions with hash tag of #boco_trails, then you can search that hash tag to see the latest.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23boco_trails&src=typd

    The trails around my area are not just wet, they are destroyed (and closed). The Dirt Bismark stuff in SoBo got hit hard and will be quite some time before they are repaired I'm guessing. Even the crusher paths like the Mayhoffer trail are a total mess.

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    What Front Range Trail will be Ridable Tomorrow ?

    I took at look at some of the damage in Louisville this evening. Looking at the Coal Creek Trail system it has been washed away (along with road and bridge) in a couple of spots. This was last nights damage.

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    If that's the damage way out here then I dread to think of the damage to the trails on the mountain side next to creeks and gulches.

    Btw. I worked out that the flash flood last night was about 3 feet above the surface of the road at this point. It it could do this to the road then the gravel trail did not stand much chance. In the other photo you'll see it just end in the river now. Funny calling it a river. It usually only has a few inches of water in it normally.

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    For us Northern Front Rangers, we might be seeing lots of Wyoming riding over the next few weeks and months. It looked like there were some pretty big storm clouds over Cheyenne last night, but I haven'e heard about any trail closures or damage at Curt Gowdy, Happy Jack, or in the Snowy Range west of Laramie.
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    I forgot about Curt Gowdy...anyone think it would be rideable today/tomorrow?

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    I25 is still closed and a thunderstorm hit west of Cheyenne last night.

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    Just got back from BC. It's in great shape.
    Take three hours of single track through a pine forest and call me in the morning.

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    I just spoke to a bike shop in Laramie and they said that the trails in the Snowy Range are a mess due to rain all week, as are the trails in the Happy Jack / Pole Mountain area. However, he said Gowdy is in pretty good shape (assuming last night's storm didn't wash out any trails) because the decomposed granite surface drains pretty well. As of now, highway 287 is open between Fort Collins and Laramie.

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    I just rode Davidson Mesa and Coyote Run (flat, well built gravel paths), and even those trails were washed out at every hint of an incline. Walker, Longhorn, Betasso Link, Chimney, Horsetooth, anything remotely steep is going to be completely annihilated.

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    Where did you come from? It's hard to tell from the CDOT maps if 93-470-285 route is completely open.

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    +1 on buff creek

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    Just got back from BC. It's in great shape.
    Perfect conditions. Few puddles on the road section,other than that great grippy shape on the trails

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSH View Post
    Me and some buddies have Kenosha to Breck on the docket a week from tomorrow. Assuming next week is dry and sunny any thoughts on if it will be good to go?
    You should be fine, the high country did not get anywhere near the amount of rain that the foothillls did. I actually rode in summit county today, and it was only slightly more damp than hero dirt, hardly any mud.
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    A friend rode Kenosha - Georgia as an out and back today and said conditions were good.

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    Dakota Ridge is fine shape.. can't comment on the other side, got chased out by the rain
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    I would think that a couple of sunny days is all it will take for most of the Loveland/FC trails to dry up. Assuming it rains Sunday, I bet by Wednesday trails will start to open. The usual suspects might take a little longer (Pineridge, Lory/HTMP valley). FWIW, gravel grinding was superb today.

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    I've caught myself in more than a few selfish moments - wondering when my favorite trails will be open, when can i get out and ride - must ride must ride etc...

    than - see the news, the stories and the pictures of the devastation and sadly deaths - i feel quite blessed I'm not in an area thats affected by this crazy storm!

    God bless those who arent so lucky and have lost everything - I'll survive without a ride for a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamper11 View Post
    I've caught myself in more than a few selfish moments - wondering when my favorite trails will be open, when can i get out and ride - must ride must ride etc...

    than - see the news, the stories and the pictures of the devastation and sadly deaths - i feel quite blessed I'm not in an area thats affected by this crazy storm!

    God bless those who arent so lucky and have lost everything - I'll survive without a ride for a while
    Yep. I felt grateful just to get out and ride on the road in the sunshine this morning. All the other cyclists I passed looked pretty happy too.

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    Buffalo Creek was fine. Started out at the Little Scraggy Trailhead. The CO trail portion was pretty dry. When I got to Shinglemill and Morrison Creek it was pretty tacky. Few standing water. The short steep elevation changes are pretty washed out to where the water has made some mini-canyons that could suck up a tire easy (and i was on my fat bike). However, Buff Creek got lots of rain last night.

    It was dead. Two cars parked at Little Scraggy and just a handful at the BC parking. Only saw 5 people on the trail.

    A buddy of mine rode further north. The proper 'loop' he said it was tacky.

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    Maybe we can make a sticky about what front range trails are even accessible and the condition of rebuilding trails that have seen catastrophe...
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    Mount Herman is good to go, so is AFA. Northern El Paso County missed the torrential rain and just got steady moisture.

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    Anyone been to Valmont yet? I'm wondering how it faired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dthomp325 View Post
    Anyone been to Valmont yet? I'm wondering how it faired.
    I took a look from outside on Friday. Some damage from running water but at least the area it's not flooded. I guess some volunteer help will be needed when everything dries out. Right now the airport across the street is staging rescue Chinooks and Black Hawks - to give some perspective...

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    When they open Lyons back up, that will be the only access for Heil and Hall, Geer Canyon and Hwy 7 are pretty much toast. I imagine Rabbit Mt will be ok once Boulder County OS opens back up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman View Post
    Many partial versions have been around for years but since they are so segmented the best option is using google search.

    So far apps like this have little payout so the interest is small.

    Jefferson County rangers have a facebook page where they post updates on trail conditions...check it out.

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    https://www.facebook.com/jeffcoopenspace

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    This is/ was Glen Haven and one of the Crosier Mtn trailheads yesterday.

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    I rode Dakota Ridge on Friday, it was fine spare some softness on the initial climb. Took the road back to the lot so I can't say how the red rocks trails were.

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    Any word on trails around Nederland? My gut says no way for a planned Thursday am ride, in terms of trail conditions and accessibility to TH...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNormsk View Post
    EDIT: I just updated the status to closed for the Boulder trail systems and poor for the high mountain trails. As they improve or reopen, please update. Thanks.
    Thanks for doing that, I just deleted a bunch of spam from it the other day before the rains hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Any word on trails around Nederland? My gut says no way for a planned Thursday am ride, in terms of trail conditions and accessibility to TH...
    No idea. The trails up there typically handle rain very well, but no idea what kind of rain they saw, and access will be a *****.

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    Right now the only access to Ned is via Blackhawk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK_ View Post
    Right now the only access to Ned is via Blackhawk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgltrak View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgltrak View Post
    The town or the helicopter?
    The irony... Both, I suppose. I'm hearing at least a month or two before Boulder Canyon will be open? Coal Creek is hosed for a while, too. Jamestown and Ward are not going to provide reprieve, neither.

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    Green Mountain has some run off damage but nothing like elsewhere.

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    REEBecka and I just toured Ridgeline. The longer climbs on the South, East, and North sides are pretty rutted out. Other than that it's just muddy in a few spots.
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    What Front Range Trail will be Ridable Tomorrow ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaycastlerock View Post
    REEBecka and I just toured Ridgeline. The longer climbs on the South, East, and North sides are pretty rutted out. Other than that it's just muddy in a few spots.
    This gives and interesting twist on the change to the trail system. Systems that were very "groomed" are going to be technically more interesting with the ruts and washouts until they get repaired. And given just how much damage there is, that may be a while....

    Of course the land managers may just close the said trails until they are repaired which would be worse that riding groomed trails.

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    To all the guys that rode BC, any of the sand get washed away on trails like Baldy or did more sand just wash onto the trails?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusky21 View Post
    To all the guys that rode BC, any of the sand get washed away on trails like Baldy or did more sand just wash onto the trails?
    Shinglemill seemed much more washed out than it was a couple weeks ago. Morrison seemed normal. Most likely due to Shinglemill having so much less vegetation.

    The CO Trail portion didn't seem all that different either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maelstromwbc View Post
    Shinglemill seemed much more washed out than it was a couple weeks ago. Morrison seemed normal. Most likely due to Shinglemill having so much less vegetation.

    The CO Trail portion didn't seem all that different either.
    I noticed some portions of gashouse were showing signs of runoff that just rutted out the trail overall and people were starting to wear out tracks on the left side of the trail

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    I thought the worst section of trail was on Strawberry Jack, but overall it wasn't bad at all. 10-15 ft sections of trail had been eroded down the middle but in almost all spots it was still rideable; very minimal damage considering the circumstances. Charlie's, Homestead, and Sandy Wash were all in good shape, and the Gashouse climb wasn't bad either.

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    Anyone know how Lair O Bear looks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maelstromwbc View Post
    Anyone know how Lair O Bear looks?

    Closed. See JeffCo Parks and Trails

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    Anyone ride Centennial Cone recently?

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    From the link above:


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    Ned trails are mostly intact. Getting to Ned is the trick part.

    But in more recent news. USFS just announced THE FOREST IS CLOSED.

    (east of P2P)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquidmantis View Post
    From the link above:

    Thanks! I hadn't checked their Twitter page. I'll probably ride the Cone tomorrow.

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    Anyone want to speculate the possibility of riding the CT from Buffalo Creek to Waterton this weekend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liqwid View Post
    Anyone want to speculate the possibility of riding the CT from Buffalo Creek to Waterton this weekend?
    I'd say that route will be primo this weekend.

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    Green Mountain, Dakota, Red Rocks all good as of today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    I'd say that route will be primo this weekend.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden boy View Post
    Anyone ride Centennial Cone recently?
    rode Mayhem gulch yesterday, some sediment on the lower sections reminded me of sandy wash at BC, but otherwise rode like nothing happened a week ago. I would bet the whole loop is rideable and in good condition.

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